End + Int build

[scanz]

I was wondering if END is good for mage.
I mean for PvP purpose? More HP and def = can survive longer?

like a little bit of END and the rest is INT?

I never see this being discussed and i'm wondering about this.

[Kholai]

Free stat Endurance is fail for a mage.

#1 You have no shield. You cannot block without shield, making the best feature of endurance worthless.
#2 You'll deal less damage than a mage who does not waste their stats on endurance, meaning that you will actually take more hits, thanks to needing more time to kill a monster.
#3 Defence bonus from Endurance will not hugely reduce your overall damage taken. You will still take mad damage from everything, meaning that that the more hits you're taking aren't compensated for by less damage.

If you want defence and health, use a vit and shield scroll. The benefit will be greater than the stat points give anyway.

[Liala]

Don't do it.

If you want an hp boost, get some +END Rings.
(and like Kho said, vit & shield scrolls are the win)

[scanz]

ahh... okay. thanks for the info. :)

[Leedles]

Haha, I was wondering about end for mage as well. Thanks for the info Kholai and Maiya <3

[pureshok]

I disagree the bonus damage from all INT is barely noticable. 76 more per hit at lv 59. I'd rather have 300 more hp for pvp fights. That 76 wont even be noticable in pvp since you kill people by slaming them with a combo before they can heal. If you were end you'd use all end gears AND vit+ def scrolls, and with the lv cap being raised you'd have even more hp and def.

End mage vs Int mage? prob a draw and still one hit away from killing each other. End mage hits less but is harder to kill, and hit mage hits more but is easier to kill.

However end mage vs fighter? You have def to his damage type, he has NO def to your damage type. I see No problems here for an end mage depending on who gets off their para spell first.

End mage vs an archer? They fight mostly with melee dps. You fight with burst damage that at lv 100 hit 138 less per hit then a full int, for 500 more hp and more def all around. No problem here either.

End mage vs cleric? after lv 59 you have a chance to win cleric spells start suck and mage spells start to really dominate. Purge, steal buff, fear, then slam. Clerics hit so weak anyway having all that extra hp and def will make their hits even weaker. I see no problem killing clerics as a end mage either.

However the real benifits of an end mage come when you add in critical hits. By using the proper weapon, getting 25 spr (helps magic def too), and earrings+ liecence you can hit 15% to crit without using cash shop. if you use cash shop you can hit 20% crit rate this way. Now think who has a better chance of using this crit rate, a int mage who dies easily, or a end mage who last longer?

[rocksteal]

END mages are not all that great just get items to bring your END up put the stats on INT and some on SPR hybrid mages own both monsters and plays. also if you use your magic the right way

[KyrieAien]

I disagree the bonus damage from all INT is barely noticable. 76 more per hit at lv 59. I'd rather have 300 more hp for pvp fights. That 76 wont even be noticable in pvp since you kill people by slaming them with a combo before they can heal. If you were end you'd use all end gears AND vit+ def scrolls, and with the lv cap being raised you'd have even more hp and def.

End mage vs Int mage? prob a draw and still one hit away from killing each other. End mage hits less but is harder to kill, and hit mage hits more but is easier to kill.

However end mage vs fighter? You have def to his damage type, he has NO def to your damage type. I see No problems here for an end mage depending on who gets off their para spell first.

End mage vs an archer? They fight mostly with melee dps. You fight with burst damage that at lv 100 hit 138 less per hit then a full int, for 500 more hp and more def all around. No problem here either.

End mage vs cleric? after lv 59 you have a chance to win cleric spells start suck and mage spells start to really dominate. Purge, steal buff, fear, then slam. Clerics hit so weak anyway having all that extra hp and def will make their hits even weaker. I see no problem killing clerics as a end mage either.

However the real benifits of an end mage come when you add in critical hits. By using the proper weapon, getting 25 spr (helps magic def too), and earrings+ liecence you can hit 15% to crit without using cash shop. if you use cash shop you can hit 20% crit rate this way. Now think who has a better chance of using this crit rate, a int mage who dies easily, or a end mage who last longer?

I'm trying at level 40 to have a 10 END, 20 INT, 10 SPR build for that exact reason. The sterotypical mage right now is very broken, esp. with spells not around. Plus, the lost damage from INT pumping will be able to be earned back when the mage becomes unbroken. END is fairly useful, I'm able to survive small aggroes in parties of Trumpies at 38.

[Shumirah]

I put like 5 points in END in my newbie lvls. I think it might have helped in my lower lvls take on stronger mobs. I wouldn't put any in it now. As a mage you want to nuke your target fast and hard. In PvP I really don't believe the END is whats helping you. Did you actually make an END-Mage? If so I'm glad it's working for you. I'm sure though the extra dmg dealt in GW's would make up for the lack of DEF. I think for a mage it mostly increases your HP not so much your DEF to really matter because mages have such a low DEF base to start with in the first place.

I have a question. Do a lot of mages seriously neglect buying upgraded magic spells. Each spell does do more dmg as they get upgraded. The fact that they use more SP isn't reason enough for me to not to get them. I admit the cool times are a bit long for party use in this game with the mobs coming as fast as they do. I do have a different bar set up just for pty use. I'm going to work on the cool down times for my spells in hope that they might become more efficient. However I think to not get the upgraded one is gimping himself as a mage because they are in fact more powerful versions of the spells.

[markastig]

Tow days ago i tanked marlone and mara on KQ! though im not pure END but with proper scrolls, buffs and a cleric all things went well XDDD

[lordyasha]

Happy Holiday and Happy New Years ~~ :D

Today's Question. lvl 50 Full Int mage +6 staff VS lvl 50 Full End mage with +8 staff. Which mage will kill monster faster?

Full Int mage will have his glory at lvl 70+. HO HO HO.

BTW, Don't mix Int/ End. Always, stay with one free stat. HO HO HO.

Full End Santa Mage FTW. HO HO HO.

[Archaonn]

I disagree the bonus damage from all INT is barely noticable. 76 more per hit at lv 59. I'd rather have 300 more hp for pvp fights. That 76 wont even be noticable in pvp since you kill people by slaming them with a combo before they can heal. If you were end you'd use all end gears AND vit+ def scrolls, and with the lv cap being raised you'd have even more hp and def.

End mage vs Int mage? prob a draw and still one hit away from killing each other. End mage hits less but is harder to kill, and hit mage hits more but is easier to kill.

However end mage vs fighter? You have def to his damage type, he has NO def to your damage type. I see No problems here for an end mage depending on who gets off their para spell first. Wrong Fighters have m.Def and the Damage end mages will be doing will be a Little bit more than a Fighter's But only a little. The end mage will probably Mitigate 10 dmg maybe BUT get hit A LOT More

End mage vs an archer? They fight mostly with melee dps. You fight with burst damage that at lv 100 hit 138 less per hit then a full int, for 500 more hp and more def all around. No problem here either. Maybe so but Archers dodge and you will Probably miss some hits, also they have a longer range and will kite you

End mage vs cleric? after lv 59 you have a chance to win cleric spells start suck and mage spells start to really dominate. Purge, steal buff, fear, then slam. Clerics hit so weak anyway having all that extra hp and def will make their hits even weaker. I see no problem killing clerics as a end mage either.

However the real benifits of an end mage come when you add in critical hits. By using the proper weapon, getting 25 spr (helps magic def too), and earrings+ liecence you can hit 15% to crit without using cash shop. if you use cash shop you can hit 20% crit rate this way. Now think who has a better chance of using this crit rate, a int mage who dies easily, or a end mage who last longer?

An end mage will last longer than a Int mage but will be worthless in pvp AND Pve.

Pvp Int mage vs End mage- End mage will do Less damage and will only have about 300 hp more which will give NO defense against Magic Attacks which Mages do in the end the End mage will get Slaughtered.

Pve- The End mage will get hit A lot more than an Int mage and will lose more Hp, what's worth more 300 Hp, about 30 def and about %5.00 more SB (Can't even block Lol) or being able to do GODLY damage each hit.

Partying- What will Parties want more A Damage Dealing Mage or a Tanking Mage? Full end mages will be Worthless in Parties, the tank is the one taking the hits.

[lordyasha]

Since when 300 HP is not much?

You can take 1 or 2 more hits from mobs or another players.

lvl 50 full int mage with +6 weap will give less damage than full end mage with +9 weap.

and 300 HP gives much more time to use stone/ pots for pvp. without 300 HP, don't even have enough time to run away from +9 weap archer.

After lvl 70+, Full int mage will give about 100 more dot damages than full end mage. From there full int mage is turely better for aoe party.

Also, you talked about pvp between mages. Well what if full end mage use tier2/3 magic shield scroll?

If you use blessing of teva, there is no reason to make End mage for now.

But once, outpark patch battle field, full int mage will cry. Cuz, they have no chance pvp against archer/ 2h fighter in battle field.

[KireiYosei]

IMO, END is almost pointless in a mage unless you plan on doing nothing but soloing. But its an MMO, whats the point in doing nothing but soloing when you can socialize with other people in a party. To confiscate for my lack of end and defense, I make sure I have a ring and earrings with END or HPmax in it. Doesn't do much, but it can save your life. My friend was an END:INT mage and he could only take 1 or 2 more hits than me. Not worth it when you could be stocked up on SPR so you can cast more.

My build is +25 SPR, rest into INT, and I am a damn fine mage. I always have people asking me to party with them, praising me on my damage and how fast kills are, and people request that I join KQs so there's nice damage.

[SilverPheonix]

IMO, END is almost pointless in a mage unless you plan on doing nothing but soloing. But its an MMO, whats the point in doing nothing but soloing when you can socialize with other people in a party. To confiscate for my lack of end and defense, I make sure I have a ring and earrings with END or HPmax in it. Doesn't do much, but it can save your life. My friend was an END:INT mage and he could only take 1 or 2 more hits than me. Not worth it when you could be stocked up on SPR so you can cast more.

My build is +25 SPR, rest into INT, and I am a damn fine mage. I always have people asking me to party with them, praising me on my damage and how fast kills are, and people request that I join KQs so there's nice damage.

I agree with Yosie :D
Well i have almost the same build. except only 20 in spr and rest in int.

And for end i use earring and elderine rings which give me decent enough hp

Also u can buff up ur hp with vit scrolls and def with def scrolls.
But u cant increase ur power unless u use concentration scrolls which are rare.

I feel being of jack of all trades is not worth it. Mages are meant to do damage why do u want to tank. Let the fighters do it. :)

[lordyasha]

There are not much damage different between lvl 60 full int wiht +9 weap and lvl 60 full end mage with +9 weap...

especially with +25 spr? only 40 more int at lvl 60.. 40 int give only 48 more magic damage..hehe..

This game is about having +9 weapon. +9 weapon rule anyone no matter End or Int or Spr...

However, for now, there is no point solo or pvp with mage. So make only Full Int.. I strongly recommand pure int without SPR.

Make AOE mage. as you know [magic burst/ frost nova/ inferno ]..

[ray333]

25spr 50end lv60mage, total hp without buff-2060,with nomal buff 2780, can tank anything with 1 cleric,

btw, this game is all about +9 wep, ur build is not a big different through pure end or pure int.dun worry about the build just for fun~~

the first thing u should do is get a boss+9wep

[KireiYosei]

There are not much damage different between lvl 60 full int wiht +9 weap and lvl 60 full end mage with +9 weap...

especially with +25 spr? only 40 more int at lvl 60.. 40 int give only 48 more magic damage..hehe..

This game is about having +9 weapon. +9 weapon rule anyone no matter End or Int or Spr...

However, for now, there is no point solo or pvp with mage. So make only Full Int.. I strongly recommand pure int without SPR.

Make AOE mage. as you know [magic burst/ frost nova/ inferno ]..

But I use less sp stones, have better aim, and I crit more. The mage class was intended for damage obviously, so why try to go for tanking? Sure they could tank.. but not much. I can tank on my mage too, but not very much.

[slashtrak]

Also, not all of us want to bother spending real money to get a +9 weapon. (Though, I'm making a fortune crafting stones and saving up to get a +9 wep, but that's beyond the point.)

Thus, it's better for them to go spr/int or full int.

It's really all preference. Free stats make VERY LITTLE difference in Fiesta.

[lordyasha]

better aim? from where? aim is from dex.

5% crit, I can cover with cash suits.

as I said, full end mage is useless for now. but they will be better for battle field and pvp.

if you don't have +9 weap, at least you may want to get +6 weap and +5 power/ 5 sp/5 cooling time on magic burst for AOE party later.

and you can buy +9 weap from another players. also, you don't need +9 weap until lvl 45/50.

After lvl 50, most of time you will join AOE party for fast lvl up.