Seriously, Discuss. D:

[Ryoshin]

I'm sure alot of you have been grinding in Uruga, and know the "one" party consisting of moongirl, IGOUUGI(Sp?), Heroreign, and a random tank everytime.

You may have encountered a few of these instances:

1. You or your party grinding in a nice pixy/orc spot; These said players come and seem harmless, not KS'ing; a few seconds your client crashes..wait, your whole party got affected too. Sadly, it wasnt the server crashing, because when you relog you notice the said people are now Grinding in your spawn, wow?

2. Lets say they were first on the spawn area, your party passes by and accidentally, hits one; apparently they think you've KS'd them, and just as soon as your whole party gets nice and compact, your whole party experiences the crash.

Apparently, these people( or atleast one of them. ) exploits a weird bug, and I would really appreciate if a staff takes the time to observe them indiscreetly; because honestly, I'm not the only one complaining about them.

[smartykids123]

someone really out to ban that moongirl and her little comrade. they be getting me and party get disconnected each time were around her party. i know im not the only one who experinced this!!!
but to let u guys know its moongirl person whos doin that!!! so please will the dakkon or whoever do something about it!!!

[lordalden]

I'm sure alot of you have been grinding in Uruga, and know the "one" party consisting of moongirl, IGOUUGI(Sp?), Heroreign, and a random tank everytime.

You may have encountered a few of these instances:

1. You or your party grinding in a nice pixy/orc spot; These said players come and seem harmless, not KS'ing; a few seconds your client crashes..wait, your whole party got affected too. Sadly, it wasnt the server crashing, because when you relog you notice the said people are now Grinding in your spawn, wow?

2. Lets say they were first on the spawn area, your party passes by and accidentally, hits one; apparently they think you've KS'd them, and just as soon as your whole party gets nice and compact, your whole party experiences the crash.

Apparently, these people( or atleast one of them. ) exploits a weird bug, and I would really appreciate if a staff takes the time to observe them indiscreetly; because honestly, I'm not the only one complaining about them.

Yes, I've noticed this too. I've also heard rumors that Heroreign utilizes bots to get him silver as well. And I've observed this wee little glitch when he was the only one around too, and my static Uruga party noticed this as well. There is honestly something amiss here, and sadly, we can't prove it at all, because we could only take screenshots of them standing there, then BAM! Disconnect. At first, people thought it was just an isolated incident to where they were at before that group of people, but I'm glad others are noticing that such is sadly not the case.

[mime999]

Voodoo?? :eek:

[HeroReign]

ok hounstly im NOT a bot or anything like really, ppl spamming me saying, "DIE, IM REPORT|ING YOU!" for f**** SAKE! i play, i get ppl bugging me bout my guild i DONT AWNSER THEM!, i really dont know y but......it makes me upset. LEAVE ME ALONE AND OUT OF THIS TOPIC! all my guildys are leaving thanks to this *shakes head*:mad: w.e i hate ppl that do this

[HeroReign]

*cough* Sleepy Fuccers? *cough cough*

What?:confused:

[lordalden]

ok hounstly im NOT a bot or anything like really, ppl spamming me saying, "DIE, IM REPORT|ING YOU!" for f**** SAKE! i play, i get ppl bugging me bout my guild i DONT AWNSER THEM!, i really dont know y but......it makes me upset. LEAVE ME ALONE AND OUT OF THIS TOPIC! all my guildys are leaving thanks to this *shakes head*:mad: w.e i hate ppl that do this

If they're leaving, then obviously they've noticed something amiss as well, or have some doubts about you, and quite frankly, I don't blame them, to be quite honest. Everytime I've seen you with a group around Uruga, my entire static has been d/ced at the steps(we made this quite clear over Ventrilo).

And the fact that you can't simply deny these allegations means you have something to prove here, which is often not the case for a false accusation. Would you like to see a bot that was in your guild? I still have the screenies in my PhotoBucket. We tried talking to her, tried ressing her, you name it, but she just kept truckin on till she died. Then she navigated herself back to the same area, meaning someone was keeping an eye on her from time to time.

[Doomherald]

kidding
:p

[Doomherald]

Hero..

Honestly....are you partying with moon? you know....Moongirl from SF?
and if you are, how often? The reason I ask is because this simple partying with such individual maybe the cause of your guilds demise. Stay clear of Moongirl and whoever she is affiliated with.
Seriously. These guys are trouble...I'm not surprised if their guild admin knows them in real life and is getting a kick out of the interaction.

http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/epsie/screenshot.jpg

[Amathius]

Unfortunately this is on the same level with the sleeping forest guild.
Everyone knows said players are doing something odd , yet nothing is done about it. Its the same players over and over. Perhaps after enough is said the GMs will investigate - perhaps not. Who knows.

[HeroReign]

If they're leaving, then obviously they've noticed something amiss as well, or have some doubts about you, and quite frankly, I don't blame them, to be quite honest. Everytime I've seen you with a group around Uruga, my entire static has been d/ced at the steps(we made this quite clear over Ventrilo).

And the fact that you can't simply deny these allegations means you have something to prove here, which is often not the case for a false accusation. Would you like to see a bot that was in your guild? I still have the screenies in my PhotoBucket. We tried talking to her, tried ressing her, you name it, but she just kept truckin on till she died. Then she navigated herself back to the same area, meaning someone was keeping an eye on her from time to time.

Well, i had to kick about 5~6 ppl from my guild because my friend added bots, yup so anyways im online one day and im in urgra and im like, thats it, im kicking him and he/she spazzed, they started flaming and cussing like crazy, they had typos and didnt type english very well so right off the bat i knew somthing was up, AND i had people reprting him to me days b4 on are "JOIN CHAOS_ORDER" thread. anyways...

BTW,
Is it wrong to have 2 accounts and 2 computers? i dont think so.

[wolfdance]

I've experienced this crash too in uruga. my whole party crashed while picking plants and farming by orcs. came back and the other people there were still grinding. i didn't notice who the others were tho. i also experience it when running a store in eldrine. good way so kill competition since only a hand full of stores will do it. all at the same time. one second lots of stores. next second half are gone. don't know if it's just a random glitch or an exploit tho.

[lordalden]

Well, i had to kick about 5~6 ppl from my guild because my friend added bots, yup so anyways im online one day and im in urgra and im like, thats it, im kicking him and he/she spazzed, they started flaming and cussing like crazy, they had typos and didnt type english very well so right off the bat i knew somthing was up, AND i had people reprting him to me days b4 on are "JOIN CHAOS_ORDER" thread. anyways...

BTW,
Is it wrong to have 2 accounts and 2 computers? i dont think so.

If you alone are using the accounts, I do believe so. I remember asking Steam if I was allowed to have two before, and he said no.

[Doomherald]

I smell....gold farmers. =P

[HeroReign]

If you alone are using the accounts, I do believe so. I remember asking Steam if I was allowed to have two before, and he said no.

that seems a bit un-real. I do have two comps and i do go on both. i dont know how you cant do that?

[lordalden]

that seems a bit un-real. I do have two comps and i do go on both. i dont know how you cant do that?

I was informed, if my memory serves me correctly, that it was a Terms of Service violation.

[HeroReign]

I was informed, if my memory serves me correctly, that it was a Terms of Service violation.

well i start reading, its late here, got school tommarow but if ppl are reporting me....ill be on all night to dis agree!

[lordalden]

well i start reading, its late here, got school tommarow but if ppl are reporting me....ill be on all night to dis agree!

My suggestion, is as you have already implicated yourself in having two accounts, is to inquire into the matter personally, give the name of your secondary account willingly, and maybe in the show of honesty you won't risk your main one being banned, if it is a violation and a punished offense, and at the same time, inquire into such bannable offenses as I have in my time here.

[wolfdance]

I don't see any thing wrong with 2 comps if you are just using it to run a store. no worse than 2 or 3 people running same char so they can run it 24Hrs. as long as your not gold farming or selling your accounts. just as long as its for personal. maybe just your roommate running a store for you or you running it yourself. what's the difference. there used to be a black hole in rumen in front of smith. if you stood there or set a store you would get buffer over run. started after a patch. fixed

[HeroReign]

ok well here,
Main account is Heroreign,
other one is Herofall.

They are with 2 emails. msn and AIM.

[lordalden]

I don't see any thing wrong with 2 comps if you are just using it to run a store. no worse than 2 or 3 people running same char so they can run it 24Hrs. as long as your not gold farming or selling your accounts. just as long as its for personal. maybe just your roommate running a store for you or you running it yourself. what's the difference. there used to be a black hole in rumen in front of smith. if you stood there or set a store you would get buffer over run. started after a patch. fixed

Actually, this may depend. In other MMO's, under mostly similar Terms of Service, it is actually illicit activity to share your account as it is unfairly playing your character in a manner outside of the intended usage. That may not be the case here, but it could very well be. Let's await some GM hammer on this thread.

[HeroReign]

When are GM's usually on? I am hounstly getting scared :mad: I dont wanna be involved in this :(

[HeroReign]

Btw, hos do i get to rules?

[lordalden]

Btw, hos do i get to rules?

The GM's have gone home for the day, the OutSpark main office is closed. Wait till morning on that. And you can click "OutSpark Home" at the bottom of the page, then go to the bottom of THAT page, and click "Terms of Service".

[HeroReign]

The GM's have gone home for the day, the OutSpark main office is closed. Wait till morning on that. And you can click "OutSpark Home" at the bottom of the page, then go to the bottom of THAT page, and click "Terms of Service".

Skimmed over it, dont see anything bout using two computers

[Ryoshin]

As ive stated ,either one of the said party members are exploiting.

It might have been just coincidence I've seen you with them everytime we experience the disconnect, or not; We can't provide screenshot evidence because it's useless, but alot of people have already experienced this.. and I think it's enough.

[lordalden]

As ive stated ,either one of the said party members are exploiting.

It might have been just coincidence I've seen you with them everytime we experience the disconnect, or not; We can't provide screenshot evidence because it's useless, but alot of people have already experienced this.. and I think it's enough.

I couldn't agree more.

[SKiNG]

Please immediately send me a screenshot and notify me through PM the next time you see these users.

Thank you

[lordalden]

Please immediately send me a screenshot and notify me through PM the next time you see these users.

Thank you

I shall do that.

[DemonEyeKyo]

reuw moongurl done that to me too if she want ur spot she just make u dc and take it... she dc the whole pt

[lordalden]

reuw moongurl done that to me too if she want ur spot she just make u dc and take it... she dc the whole pt

Well, how ascertainable is it that it's her, and her alone though?

[DemonEyeKyo]

and dont mind lord alden all the time he mainly talk lot bull**** but if u have real problem report em

[DemonEyeKyo]

cause i know alden... dont ask question on thing u aint involve personally with :P

[HeroReign]

Great, im guessing im banned? server seems to be down

***EDIT*** Nvm

[Casper7526]

Let me quick some it up for you. There were 2 topics in this thread and I will address both accordingly.

Easier Topic #1 -

Are you allowed to have 2 computers/2 accounts and be playing them both.

Yes, you are completely able and allowed to be using 2 computers with 2 separate accounts while playing them both simultaneously. I have the screenshot of GM's saying this is not against the TOS and everything, simple answer, you are fine, don't worry your not getting banned even if they are on the same IP.

Harder Topic #2 -

Ahh the dreaded computer freaks. Well, let's break it down, basically what you are experiencing is an input error caused by these "computer freaks". Why am I calling them "computer freaks" Because well, they've seriously gone over the edge when they have figured out how to DC other people.

Is it possible to DC someone....Short answer is yes. What they are doing is manipulating a specific game file in a way that most people can't. Why do I say most people can't do it...? Because at least if you acquire it legally, the program they are using costs $100's of dollars.

Am I going to tell you how to DC other people...? No...I'm not...Do i know how...yes I do...Would i risk losing my account for something so frivolous as the power to DC people....certainly not.

In short, the only way to catch these people is the following.

You experience the problem. Heres your walkthrough.

Screenshot the other party.
When the disconnect appears, hit PRINT SCREEN, then copy that into MS-PAINT.
Log back on and immediatly screen shot the other party again (hopefully the'll be in mid-pull, meaning they never got DCed)
The'll probably repeat the action and so will you, keep screenshotting and copy pasting every time they do it.

Then compile those screenshots and forward them to support@outspark.com

[shorty101289]

well, i am positive it is moongirl, as i have been dc when she is around, and its always random members. As for Heroreign (sry if i misspell), its good to know u did sum refining to ur guild. Hopefully u got rid of botchla as well. On the 2 accounts things, i am almost positive(only fools are positive) that it is a ToS Violation...i dont agree with it, but im sure it is. You are limited to one account per individual. Im sure however, that u wont be banned, as u didnt try to hide the fact u have two, and openly admitted to it. Demon, no hard will towards u, ur a good player, but alden has every right to share his opinion on matters IG as well as out. One of the great freedoms the U.S. of A was founded upon. As long as he is not harrassing or blatantly disrespecting other players, there is no problem. I am well aware of the problems between u two, and understand it, but pls limit urself to burning him in whispers, as flamming forums is just immature and ignorant.

*Edit* casperz post was not up when i wrote mine, good insight.

[Cherushi]

o.o thats bad.... >.< why are they doing that?

Bijou server is full of fun people but I have never seen so many problems as in Teva >.>

*offtopic* lots of scammers, (botters are present in teva as well) but hackers >.< *offtopic*

lolz... well ill try it then. ill get a party and try to grind at where they are. I'll try to see if it happens. but if it does... thats just bad T.T

>.> why wont they go in gamengame LOL. just kidding :p

nice suggestion casperz will do that wen i experience it.

[DemonEyeKyo]

lol if i clearly see a chair and u say its a table then u say what i see its clearly not a chair when i know it is then u try to argue with me 2 hour bout that... then u follow me to still argue with me another 2h ... i might get irritated and if next time u try to argue with me on similar matter its also my right of free speech to tell u what on my mind bout it well no hard will toward u mesmerized but implying someone could be immature and ignorant cause he burn someone isnt supossed to be immature and ignorant as well?

:P
gluck everyone on 79
have fun and enjoy game

*edit lol wow its been quite a while... some post were removed and some were dited... seem like what i say said was outta topic :)

[shorty101289]

2shay Demon, 2shay... and i agree that if that was the case, then u were harassed, and that gives u every reason to be upset....i also would be upset, and proably flame the person every chance i could... all im saying, is, lets keep this post on topic...

GL racing to 79 Demon....

and every1 for that matter

[matty19]

hero reign is not a bot ok, im in his guild chaos_order me and him always talk in guild chat so how can u say he is a bot so get off his back ok. dont worry hero i got your back (heal2thefullest) chaos_order rules

[matty19]

sorry but botchla is here to stay as admin of chaos_order so deal with it

[wangfu85]

sounds fishy, other party/people are effect but not moongirl...... hmm *cough* Hax *cough*

-seriously though, thats a nice technique she used.

[shorty101289]

lol, someone else who is bringing down a potentially great guild...well, gl to chaos_order, hate to see ur whole guild go down because a few ppl.... i have nothin against alot of u, and actually am rather fond by a few...heroign for example, others, need to realize if u train me or any of my pty in the sap fields again, the same result will occur(this guild will no what im referring to)....oh, and hero_fame is not a bot, i enjoy him as well.

[HeroReign]

lol, someone else who is bringing down a potentially great guild...well, gl to chaos_order, hate to see ur whole guild go down because a few ppl.... i have nothin against alot of u, and actually am rather fond by a few...heroign for example, others, need to realize if u train me or any of my pty in the sap fields again, the same result will occur(this guild will no what im referring to)....oh, and hero_fame is not a bot, i enjoy him as well.

Ok first of what do you mean? you disrispect me? idk sorry, anyways that was for shorty and im wodering about something else now....Why should i get rid of botchla? what has he done?

[sorsorday]

As ive stated ,either one of the said party members are exploiting.

It might have been just coincidence I've seen you with them everytime we experience the disconnect, or not; We can't provide screenshot evidence because it's useless, but alot of people have already experienced this.. and I think it's enough.

I was duoing at the midway between pixy spot and the cp gate, while Heroeign was killing in pixy hole. Within a while, me and my fd get disconnected(the program suddenly shut down) My guess is that they dont intentionally do it, but they are using some mystery program that has side effect.

[lordalden]

Seeing as I was wrong about my previous recollection of what I was told, I apologize to you Heroreign, as well as believing from my own experiences that you were responsible for the disconnects. In other matters regarding you, I will remain silent unless I know for a fact you are doing something wrong.

Once again, I'm sorry for my mistakes.

[HeroReign]

Seeing as I was wrong about my previous recollection of what I was told, I apologize to you Heroreign, as well as believing from my own experiences that you were responsible for the disconnects. In other matters regarding you, I will remain silent unless I know for a fact you are doing something wrong.

Once again, I'm sorry for my mistakes.

No problems, just ....idk, i can stand how i had 30 ppl and 4 of em left thanks to this topic....:( rumors,rumors,rumors

[lordalden]

No problems, just ....idk, i can stand how i had 30 ppl and 4 of em left thanks to this topic....:( rumors,rumors,rumors

Well, quite frankly, you can't blame us for being leery. Everytime our party got the big D/c you were around, and there was a bot in one of your guilds. I tried in game to contact you about it, but you never replied.

[HeroReign]

Who was/is the bot in are guild and i have NOO idea how you guys get dc, dosnt make sence to me, and it happens to me somwtimes too =/

[shorty101289]

No heroreign, i was saying that i like you, certain other members of your guild, in my opinion anyways, are bringing ur whole guild down. As it is my opinion, i will keep it to myself, and not use names.

I have nothing against ur guild, just certain members, and am truly sry to hear that a few of them left because of this topic...(unless it was the members i speak of, then u r better off)

[HeroReign]

No heroreign, i was saying that i like you, certain other members of your guild, in my opinion anyways, are bringing ur whole guild down. As it is my opinion, i will keep it to myself, and not use names.

I have nothing against ur guild, just certain members, and am truly sry to hear that a few of them left because of this topic...(unless it was the members i speak of, then u r better off)

Are you online?
If you are whisper Herobow
its my alt that i am leveling up
or you can pm me on forums with names,
it would help,
Thanks
Heroreign aKa Mitchell

[Botchlasrp]

ok i dont know how old this thread is and iv read most of it and all i want to know is how my name came up in it???!....im pretty sure i havnt done anything wrong. can u tell me why i am being put into this topic?

[spinnelmoon]

well i've heard that moongirl has been banned (thank god)..she's/ he;s been into my guild Venom..which is actually a nice guild bfore he/she joins it.this moongirl given the admin position which we dont expect him/her to misuse it.but she/he did it..which make Venom name become so bad n ppl just out from the guild n a lot of other guild warred us without me as admin know the reason..so after a while,we kicked that person out of the guild (finally) and live peacefully for bout a while..then Vermont(the guild master) decided to make a new guild Valhalla..coz we can't use Venom name again coz it's being ruined by that moongirl..*sigh*....o yeah..that moongirl also got some comrades with her/him..like shen,become,etoo n some other(forgot the rest of it)..GM better watch out for those guyz..n sry but not to be racist or smthin..gotta be careful with china ppl.some of them got bot program n stuff..thats all i gotta say.sry if its confusing ><

WarAngel 5x cleric

[TheSilentOne]

VID ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. Fraps.com

[AngelsFist]

December 18, 2007.

Duuuude...nice bump?