To the High Level idiots in CP (A rant)

[Jhanniss]

*begin rant*

I shall leave the person un-named to protect their stupidity. The only clue I wish to give is they are in Necromancers. :P

Today I was in CP, checking out the new portals. Up in B0 is one of the new portals to Uruga.

Yay! I thought, finally don't have to die to get there. Awesome times right? Sort of.

I ran into a high level idiot. So I'm flying along on my tanuki (racoon) and I'm going through section C1. I see a blue shroom, again saving names to protect the stupid. Without even a second though the person types DAMMIT! ANOTHER TRAINER!

Training? You're on a traveled pathway in the midst of a lot of mobs. The definition of training is pushing mobs onto a person in order to drag them off you.

Now, I'm on my way to the portal. I don't need to worry about getting anything off me because: 1) I'm riding an animal faster than any creature in the game and 2) I have no idea you're there but don't accuse me of a defintion you have no clue about.

So the person continued to go on with me about "training" him and how I was in violation of the games rules, yada yada yada. Lots of pancakes for this kid but I have to tell you if you're reading this:

You're stupid a clueless newb if you think you've been trained when you're sitting in the midst of a ton of mobs on a traveled path to a portal. Don't like it? Go find a bridge, sit down, and shut up.

Stop wasting my braincells trying to get something very common sense into you thick clueless head.

*end rant*

[KireiYosei]

I agree. I hate how parties choose to plant their butts in the middle of the trails in Ancient Elven Woods. Then when you come running past them while trying to get to your destination, they're like "TRAINER!!!!" Well maybe you shouldn't stand where hundreds of players come flying through <.< And no I'm not going to suicide, I lose more exp than most of the players in this game when I die, and no I'm not going to choose a different path.

[Trebori]

I agree!

The moral of this story ( To the unnamed idiot) is...

If you don't like trains!?!..Then stay off of the damn tracks! :p

[Asheer]

*Sigh*...

When we are on route to next portal and passing though mob area then we must first of all try to survive.

I hear now a tousands voices.
-But you can stop and fight back mob!!!

True, but sometimes in higest lvl area (M.T in a way to V.T) you get chased by more as 6 yellow or even red monsters and chances to survive such encounter are faint, then speed up to next close portal.

Even close gate to Eld in M.T i observe people who rest on direct route chasing mobs, and later on they are suprise when couple of spiders or other mob gunned them down.

This is this same sytuation when you try rest on railroad track and when you get hit by passing train yelled why train driver dont look on that you rest on track and stop.

I known that this example is little harsh but please:START thinking where you rest, and when you get down by mob durring rest blaming no one but youself.

[Visero]

I am going to play devil's advocate here.

By your definition training is:


The definition of training is pushing mobs onto a person in order to drag them off you.

Well if you are on a horse or other traveling item of choice and you decide to engage on a pathway in the midst of a lot of mobs (regardless of how well known from your point of view) you are essentially dragging mobs that you encounter that would otherwise remain still (within reason) and placing them on would be victims as a result of your death or inability to reach you within their alloted range. This action "drags them off you" in order to save time and reach your destination as quickly as possible. Of course if no one is around this is a mute point as no one becomes a "victim" of said action, the mobs just return to their original state. So by definition, technically this is creating a train of mobs or "training".

With that said, I do believe individuals should exercise caution when selecting a place to camp out to gain exp and I am not implying that you did anything wrong with how you chose to handle the situation or lack there of. (to each his own)

However, I do believe that this falls under having good judgment and showing some common courtesy with regards to the traveler. Especially since sometimes we may only pull one mob but other times some travelers really get a good group going. >.<

How hard is it to go back after aggro has been removed and maybe help tank a little or in the case of a cleric (like myself) throw them a bone and heal the party or cast an invinc?

How hard is it at the very least to say "sorry"?

Sure you may still receive some backlash but at least it shows some appreciation and recognition of the fact that you now made their situation much more difficult and that it wasn't your intention.

The point of this post is really just some food or thought, we all have to get along in this game and more times that not it has been my experience that when you show some common courtesy and mutual respect for one another regardless of lvl, it makes the game that much more enjoyable for everyone.

[Asheer]

In other word you generally make from all of us "trainers"...

I am sorry but if you so high lvl that mob stay for you neutral is no problem to stop and help attacking player who fall a mobs prey, otherwise if i stop to help in areas when reside monsters posses a serious threat for me i get killed along whit player who i helped.

Its very easy to make a little scouting where is considering safe area to rest and rest there not in middle of walkpath...

From what i read Visero you have no idea how is in high lvl's areas, otherwise you would not make such post.

In Collapsed Prison even slight move near monster drag them to attack.
If we can fly then aggro will be no problem, but we cannot...

Most important things in this game is that players must start thinking about consequences thier own actions.

I have seen for example in Louminous Stone when player attack a group of skeletons and when realise that is more that he can handle start run to exit draging behind a skeletons army... even for me (i am lvl 29) couple of monsters there are still yellow and red and i get killed by such escape train...

Agro will stay problem when you pass through areas, or GM's will implement a system who will alow teleport from map to city and back on this same spot...

For example in Neverwinter Night this was a Recall Stone who teleported a char, to nearest temple and later on allow to back on previous spot.

In Fiesta such system will be great help and eliminate unintentional trains near gates, and will greatly prevent even a intentional trains when attacking player have ability to quick escape from dangerous area and after heal in city back there for retalitation on trainer :D...

I always look if on my route is no one who can be in danger because i have a mob tail behind me, but if i will face a mob who is RED for me i wont stop and get killed...

I known that this is a unendless discusion because both sides will put his own arguments(and both will have right by the way), but there is a catch...., todays victim of such train tomorow will drag on other from this same reason similar train of mob, so that why in this case is no clear guilty and victim.

[Desolate_Raven]

Who are you to talk about high level areas, Mr. Level 29? Monsters in the Collapsed Prison aggro just like every other aggro monster in the game. I don't see what's so hard about asking people who are in a hurry to at least try to pick their paths carefully? So it may take, like, 30 seconds longer to go AROUND the massive mob of monsters in your path, or at least attract as few of them as possible, rather than running straight through. ZOMG!!!11!oneelvn THE CANC3R m4yght GEt meh bai tHEn! Come on, if it takes a few seconds, even a few minutes (o noez!) to change your path and not drag a massive train on someone, then do it! Have some courtesy. A lot of the training spots in CP and other places are often full, and the only place not constantly occupied that some people can find might be right in the middle of your little train fest. At least have the courtesy to apologize to them, if you don't have the balls to help with your train. And trust me, running is a lot easier if you pick your path to avoid attracting as much aggro as possible anyway.

[Asheer]

Who are you to talk about high level areas, Mr. Level 29? Monsters in the Collapsed Prison aggro just like every other aggro monster in the game. I don't see what's so hard about asking people who are in a hurry to at least try to pick their paths carefully? So it may take, like, 30 seconds longer to go AROUND the massive mob of monsters in your path, or at least attract as few of them as possible, rather than running straight through. ZOMG!!!11!oneelvn THE CANC3R m4yght GEt meh bai tHEn! Come on, if it takes a few seconds, even a few minutes (o noez!) to change your path and not drag a massive train on someone, then do it! Have some courtesy. A lot of the training spots in CP and other places are often full, and the only place not constantly occupied that some people can find might be right in the middle of your little train fest. At least have the courtesy to apologize to them, if you don't have the balls to help with your train. And trust me, running is a lot easier if you pick your path to avoid attracting as much aggro as possible anyway.


Exellent post... and i have suspect this.

WHO are you to tell me how i should behave?, right now you acusse me for INTENTIONAL TRAINING PEOPLE:mad:.

For your soul information, I NEVER DID THIS AND I WILL NEVER DONE:mad:
I myself have fall a prey of such trains, did anyone who cause this turn back and apologize? NO they fly away dont care that i and my party was overrun by like you call "a little train fest" and next question, why should i think for all players who are in the area?????

Excusme but sometimes gates are located in places IMPOSSIBLE to reach in a long way as you say.
In case of CP i dont go there because i known that i have nothing to search there.
You have right about curtesy but this should be from BOTH sides not only from me.

[creepycrawlie]

I've complained about people with trains of mobs in AEW before, but only because it's not that difficult to warn us before you blow by with a ton of mobs following you. I also know that most people don't even -try- to avoid them when they easily could, I've gone all the way across AEW alive to the Uruga gate while only running into one or two mobs, so I know it is entirely possible.

[Gravvi]

Ok yes i can't stand the training. THere are people who need some monsters by that gate for a quest. LEts put it short. When you go through the gate the monster then go to the nearest person therefor you trained them. So all you need to do is
1. warn ahead
2. If you run into a person help them fight the mob instead of letting them get bombarded with your stupidity.
3. don't go because apparently you can't fight your way there.
4. Use a scroll.

If there is no people there go right ahead and train but if you run into somone who is by the gate try and fight. I am tired of the lvl 30's going to uruga. If you have someone waiting for you sure but if you can't solo anything there don't go. I can solo at least 1 thing everywhere i go. I only like when i see lvl 37+ in uruga because you have to go there for a quest. But when i see lvl 10 people in there it makes me want to get a banhammer on them. I can't do that so meh. People lvl 37+ should be in uruga nothing below that. I only went when i was invited to go.

[reesiecutie]

This is exactly why I refuse to run through an area on my mount if I see other people in the path. I immediately dismount and kill the mobs chasing me. It's just not right to drop them on someone else. This also means that I don't just run through areas where I cannot kill my mobs solo, all be it very slowly at times. Common courtesy isn't really very much to ask.

This being said, I also realize that there will be times when I or my party have chosen to fight in an area where others are often pull trains, intentionally or not. Positioning myself in a spot like this, I know that I will have to make up for others' lack in common courtesy and have to enjoy additional mobs at times. That's just the way the game goes.

[Gravvi]

yay someone with common courtesy XD you made me happier. OH and when you pass by monsters and leave a map you forced a train on the person u passed so technically u trained him. He has teh right ot rest where he did.

[Leedles]

Exellent post... and i have suspect this.

WHO are you to tell me how i should behave?, right now you acusse me for INTENTIONAL TRAINING PEOPLE:mad:.

For your soul information, I NEVER DID THIS AND I WILL NEVER DONE:mad:
I myself have fall a prey of such trains, did anyone who cause this turn back and apologize? NO they fly away dont care that i and my party was overrun by like you call "a little train fest" and next question, why should i think for all players who are in the area?????

Excusme but sometimes gates are located in places IMPOSSIBLE to reach in a long way as you say.
In case of CP i dont go there because i known that i have nothing to search there.
You have right about curtesy but this should be from BOTH sides not only from me.

O.o so because others haven't stopped to help you or haven't offered an apology, you're going to lower yourself to their level?

I don't think he was accusing you of intentional training people. But seriously, if you’re training and you see a group of people the mobs behind you will attack, and you do absolutely nothing to even warn them or apologize, then it might as well be intentional.


Trains REALLY bug me, intentional and "unintentional" ones. Your trains that save you MAYBE two minutes at most can cost people 100x that amount of time in exp they have to gain back because you couldn't be courteous enough to stop and clean up your own mess rather then dumping it on the innocent.

[Asheer]

I am Sorry:o, i should not let my temper out.

Of course you have right that before proceding to next area or city gate i must be extremally carefull not to drag any mob whit me .
We speak of high lvl areas, but similar situation is in for example Forest of Mist where many people riding from Eld and dont even look back how many Phinios and Keblings they have on tail.

And when they are back usually on path of mob is someone who rest, they dont get killed because always is in near someone who drag mob away :)

Did anyone of this riders ever say sorry?... answer is simply.

hmmm...

Leedles you right.

Somethimes is easy forget that even if other go away saing not a word i cannot never forget what a good maners are.

Maybe... just maybe when we start to behave right this will be a drop who will destroy a stone of selfishnes??

And for Desolate_Raven.

I dont known what lvl have you but i dont wish you a sytuation when you will face a dark red marked mob(they are righ now very high lvl areas), but wonder if you will have "balls" in this situation.

From your post i jugde that you are "high lvl", but remember days when even a King Crab was a threat (its sad how fast they forget how to be low lvl or even newbie) and you havent been a high lvl from begining.

I should sell my hobby :)

[mikawreck1]

What did u write this up 4?
Is it a joke or something?
Or was it just to waist time? *giggles*

[Asheer]

I remember similar discusion about resting on brigde in Sea of Greed.

When she complain that she and her party fall a prey a train of pirates and boogeys, recive a replies that they should not rest in walk path, and now i read that every one have right to rest where they like.

Like someone wise say "Who is not guilty, then should throw a first stone"...

[Oirasse]

I remember similar discusion about resting on brigde in Sea of Greed.

When someone complain that she and her party fall a prey a train of pirates and boogeys, recive a replies that they shoul not rest in walk path, and now i read that every one have right to rest where they like.

Like someone wise say "Who is not guilty, then should throw a first stone"...

that happened to me yesterday when I was resting. Luckily there was only one monster. =D

[Scadel]

in conclusion.

put houses on places you dont get trained or don't complain.

end of story.

[Asheer]

And the rest is silence.

[reesiecutie]

in conclusion.

put houses on places you dont get trained or don't complain.

end of story.

Unfortunately, that is the end of the story because it's too much to ask people to do the right thing and fight their mobs rather than dragging them across the map.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

lol jhaniss u are so selfish, look NOBODY SHOULD USE MOUNTS TO TRAVEL DOOR AND TRAIN PPL, IF U WANNA CROSS FIGHT THEM, OR USE SCROOL, DONT BE SO SELFISH, cant belive ppl like u exist

[Wolfdevil007]

Wao jahnis am really surprised about you werid acts,
Well anyway let me give you some advices tht may help you to avoid this kind of problems:

How to use a Racoon? and avoid the trains?
Well its easy first you warn wiht a simple shout *carefull sector ;h1 , e3 (as you wish to call it)

What happen if i forgot to shout?
Also is to easy you GET OFF YOUR racoon and help the victim IT DOESNT CARE HIS LVL, ITS YOUR train =P, after all its your responsability and ye you can call him the way you like to call him but dont expect some respect back ,

well thts all i can say about this , so if you wanna dedicate a whole post FOR YOUR OWN POPULAR TRAINS thts isnt my decition
GL and hv fun
Regards
Sir.
Btw if i pull any mob to any ppl i stop and help, and ask for apologys

[Saluyac]

i agree somewhat with the first post, people like that are annoying but, when you're being chased
1.) stay and fight
2.) warp
3.) or die
idiot higher levels shouldn't be in a danger zone and complain, but they will lose more exp than you if killed, even with the shouts filled with insults and such, i'd still use one of the three options, i wouldn't want whiners throwing mud on my rep just because they are mistaking me for a coward.


lol jhaniss u are so selfish, look NOBODY SHOULD USE MOUNTS TO TRAVEL DOOR AND TRAIN PPL, IF U WANNA CROSS FIGHT THEM, OR USE SCROOL, DONT BE SO SELFISH, cant belive ppl like u exist

and hades, i dont really want to say since i believe you're a supporter of the whole "bringing down LightGod5" operation but

you're an idiot to think its anyone else's fault for you staying in a danger zone, just dont go afk in monster areas, if you dont want to be accidentally trained then you'll move, simple as that. btw, i only used the term "you" because i assume, due to the caps and all in your post, that this has happened to you.

[Wolfdevil007]

Hi saluyac , well about my bro is an idiot i think you are far far far wrong , but its your opinion , well anywyas he was in tht zone cuz we had a quest where you need to kill an arch templar to get his hair and yeah its almost in the midle of the road BUT if someone trains (or lure or agroo or as whtever you wanna call tht) you must asume some responsability of, GET OFF THE racoon and fight the mobs to avoid any troubles.

[Saluyac]

Hi saluyac , well about my bro is an idiot i think you are far far far wrong , but its your opinion , well anywyas he was in tht zone cuz we had a quest where you need to kill an arch templar to get his hair and yeah its almost in the midle of the road BUT if someone trains (or lure or agroo or as whtever you wanna call tht) you must asume some responsability of, GET OFF THE racoon and fight the mobs to avoid any troubles.

indeed, option 1, so i am right about 1 thing i guess

lower levels, and sometimes higher, need to watch where they're going, but the trained need to stop complaining, if they ran right for you, you'll have a good excuse, if not, it was an accident for all we know, no proof otherwise.

[Wolfdevil007]

lol cant believe you think hades is like tht , but ok then i will not force you to say other thing , anyways think its jahniss fault , and btw stop speaking in plural Jahniss and respect the others

[Saluyac]

lol cant believe you think hades is like tht , but ok then i will not force you to say other thing , anyways think its jahniss fault , and btw stop speaking in plural Jahniss and respect the others

im talking about all general people who complain, i dont know if your brother is in that category, all i know is that hes pissed for some reason(maybe the point of this thread?), thus the caps, my mistake if thats just a way he types

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

i just can belive ppl are so selfish that they only want to safe their ***, and leave the other ppl with the mobs, if u are not good enugh to cross over killing the mobs then u dont deserve to cross, we are talking here to be nice ppl, not a selfish being, also salu, i always stop to help ppl if i made a train, even if that cost my life, cause i respect ppl, if u dont, and u jhanis i dont care, and yes jhanis u deserve insults, cause u cant keep ur own mobs, and i hope ull never had to deal ppl like urself

[Wolfdevil007]

Salu of course he is mad , and besides am also surprised of the category of person as jahnnis ,
cuz first he trains (or at least he turned into a train when he gives no help) second he thinks a high lvl will kill everything tht an stupid trainer leaves at the high lvl way? nunun wrong idea jahniss , and third (not even an apologys only insults from jahniss well fo course my bro is pi s s off ,

[Saluyac]

cause i respect ppl, if u dontgood to hear hades, and i do take care of my mobs, its a piece of cake for used to be capped fighters, when i wasn't i used warp scrolls btw.

[Saluyac]

sigh, never mind, this really isnt my argument, seeing as i dont like either sides
just be polite unconditionally, its how i got friends.

and im not saying you dont have any

[Jhanniss]

lol jhaniss u are so selfish, look NOBODY SHOULD USE MOUNTS TO TRAVEL DOOR AND TRAIN PPL, IF U WANNA CROSS FIGHT THEM, OR USE SCROOL, DONT BE SO SELFISH, cant belive ppl like u exist


Actually you need a keyboard, but getting past that and back onto the topic. I can't believe newbs like you exist. Were you powerleveled by those goldfarmers and just fresh off the boat? You're older than I am in game and yet you're as clueless and ignorant as a level 1 who just started.

If you want to make a further idiot of yourself then by all means continue on but the fact still remains, you_are_ignorant.

Learn the definitions before you start calling people such.

You seem to be one of the few high levels lacking any common sense. You don't like mobs running by you, then go rest somewhere other than a well traveled path.

You're like the person who sits in the middle of the street, then goes "***, why are cars trying to hit me?!". Common sense, child... common sense. Get off the road.

[Jhanniss]

Salu of course he is mad , and besides am also surprised of the category of person as jahnnis ,
cuz first he trains (or at least he turned into a train when he gives no help) second he thinks a high lvl will kill everything tht an stupid trainer leaves at the high lvl way? nunun wrong idea jahniss , and third (not even an apologys only insults from jahniss well fo course my bro is pi s s off ,


I don't need to apologize for another persons lack of common sense. I think you're just as bad for supporting this mentality. I don't care what level you are, you don't rest in the middle of the street and expect to not be hit at some point.

Just as you say I should stop and do this, do that, and make the world a better place, I respond that people should not rest in dangerous areas. I am not your babysitter unless you'd like to me continue changing your diapers? Because at this point all I see is people crying about something that again, should have been common sense.

Lay blame as you wish but if you can't accept the fact that people will be passing by near portals, then you really need to go find another game as you're in the wrong one.



Hi saluyac , well about my bro is an idiot i think you are far far far wrong , but its your opinion , well anywyas he was in tht zone cuz we had a quest where you need to kill an arch templar to get his hair and yeah its almost in the midle of the road BUT if someone trains (or lure or agroo or as whtever you wanna call tht) you must asume some responsability of, GET OFF THE racoon and fight the mobs to avoid any troubles.


Just as you tell me to get off the racoon and fight, I will say he could have hunted elsewhere less traveled. There are NUMEROUS other spots in CP that aren't near portals that have those Templars. By hunting there you assume the risk and responsibility of such.

[KireiYosei]

Well my usual path is from the Uruga gate to the FoS gate. The spawns change around. Sometimes theres a lip by the trail, sometimes there isn't, sometimes theres chickens in the middle of the trail, sometimes there isn't, sometimes the large greenky is in the middle of the trail, sometimes it isn't. We can't always go through AEW without aggroing.

[platina]

There are travel paths, and there are grinding areas...with recent patch, some training areas changed to travel paths, like pixies and jr archons area.

unluckily the path in discussion is currently the one more used as a path, patch from CP to Uruga, passing through the karasian arch templar, dez harkan, karasian soldier etc. that now isnt a path, is a highway... i was there recently trying to get some karasian hair ( dam hard drop), and once we step aside lookng how the monsters where running in both directions, 1 from teh ppl exiting uruga and teh other from the ppl going to uruga...

CP is now a full transit map, if u need some monster go to the new map, its big, and till now free of those pathway trains.

BTW, forget the manners, or courtesy, many ppl are trying to use the remaing hrs of exp bonus, they wont slow down , cause ur in a pathway or highway or whatever u wana call it.

[reesiecutie]

BTW, forget the manners, or courtesy, many ppl are trying to use the remaing hrs of exp bonus, they wont slow down , cause ur in a pathway or highway or whatever u wana call it.

Now that's funny! Because someone is in a hurry, manners and courtesy go out the window. It takes all of about 3 minutes to fight your way through...not exactly too long to wait for the extra bit of exp. Not to mention, you're receiving some extra exp (yes I know, less in CP than Uruga) and being a salvageable human being by stopping to kill your mobs!

Until they create traffic laws and put up road signs, a path is simply another part of the accessible map. Trying to liken resting there to standing in the middle of the street isn't exactly right.... It's more like knowing that trees grow in the middle of a certain street, and plowing through them dragging them with you as you go. If someone gets hit by them being where they don't belong, IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR DRAGGING THEM!

[Jhanniss]

Until they create traffic laws and put up road signs, a path is simply another part of the accessible map. Trying to liken resting there to standing in the middle of the street isn't exactly right.... It's more like knowing that trees grow in the middle of a certain street, and plowing through them dragging them with you as you go. If someone gets hit by them being where they don't belong, IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR DRAGGING THEM!

Well since we are using that analogy...

If a person sees a tree in the middle of the road, they obviously go around it, not through it. That's common sense but then again some people lack that common sense to go around it (kind of like people who rest in the middle of the street).

However these "trees" aren't in the middle of the street but off to the sides. Who, upon seeing the car, uproot themselves and begin to give chase, NOT driving through them.

It's like your saying I need to stop, get out a chainsaw and cut it all up into little pieces then pile them on the side of the road before I continue. No thanks. I go around it and keep on moving forward. If someone gets hit by those trees "giving chase" while in the middle of the road, I know for a fact the first person on site would ask "why weren't off the road or somewhere safer instead of the middle of the road".

And you said it yourself "a path is simply another part of the accessible map". An accessible part of that map that belongs to anyone, not someone. Another part of the accessible map that is traveled by numerous people heading to portals. There ARE other areas that host the Templars that were apparently being quested. There ARE safer areas to hunt in besides a known transport area (kind of liken it to resting on a bridge near the GC/Elderine portal, which is also a dangerous place to rest).

'If someone gets hit by them being where they don't belong, IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR DRAGGING THEM!"

And if someone decides to rest in a well traveled spot by a portal then its their fault for resting there. You assume the risk of stopping to rest in the middle of a known traveled spot.

It's like scams, its up the person being scammed to take precautions so they don't get scammed. Common sense. It's up to the person having issues about "training" to be in an area that isn't right by a portal with people going to and from it.

If you really want to call that "training" then I think about 98% of the gaming population should be in jail right now. *flail* >.<

[reesiecutie]

Of course there are safer areas to hunt and rest. I am not stating that resting in the middle of a path is a good thing to do. However, this does not negate the fact that you are very well aware that there are monsters aggroing you as you go. All you have to do is turn your camera to look behind you to see just what you're dragging. It's not as if being on a mount or running through gives you a free pass to do something reckless to other players. I did state in my original reply:

This being said, I also realize that there will be times when I or my party have chosen to fight in an area where others are often pull trains, intentionally or not. Positioning myself in a spot like this, I know that I will have to make up for others' lack in common courtesy and have to enjoy additional mobs at times. That's just the way the game goes.
And, I can remember a thread a month or two ago regarding an Uruga rant....people complain often of being trained on the stairs. The stairs in Uru are quite obviously not a safe place to rest, just as it's not really safe to set up a store in the middle of Uruga. I can remember a time I was killed while going through my storage in Uru by an Orc someone wisely decided to trail into town. Although we are all aware of the dangers of resting where we rest, that doesn't really mean that it's ok for others to drag mobs through populated areas when they have no intention of killing them.

A little more food for thought, just take minute to imagine how happy you'll be when you get through to the other side of the same portal you just mobbed to a mob someone else left you to die to before you're fully loaded on a laggy map.

[mike2223312]

so people run from mobs big deal stfu and deal with it

[Jhanniss]

Having read the debates from the other side I decided to try some experiments (a few unintentional) along that same path.

1st run: I had a harken latch on again. There were two people from the same guild there (name withheld). I stopped and began to engage the mob. Neither said anything or bothered to assist. I didn't even apparently exist.

2nd run: Next day I did another run. This time it was a Templar and one of those assistants (sp) of his. I stop and take the mobs out, off away from the two people. This time I got a negative reaction of "Dont train my cleric". Considering I stopped to deal with the mobs (none of which aggro the 'cleric'), I thought the attitude was very rude... On top of this I saw AJ run past with 3-4 mobs on him and those ran RIGHT THROUGH these two people and they didnt say a word to him.

3rd run: Running from Uruga to Elderine I saw a wizard up ahead, I pulled to a stop and killed the mobs, which the wizard thanked for me to doing.

1 out of 3. That's very sad results. THAT is the result I get if I stop. You're cursed if you and cursed if you don't. So why SHOULD I bother with the idiots on the traveled pathways when they're quicker to cry "trainer trainer" than to actually be thankful someone stopped to deal it? And you wonder why people don't stop... its the same attitude on both sides of this issue.


~.~

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

lol jhanis i wasnt resting i was killing, and if u leave me 3 templars with high magic damage, then what? if leave ur mobs on another person is train, u just cant admmit it, and i hate those dam racoon cause their only use is for train, and u made a whole post to post some excuses, u are a trainer, thats all

[Jhanniss]

lol jhanis i wasnt resting i was killing, and if u leave me 3 templars with high magic damage, then what? if leave ur mobs on another person is train, u just cant admmit it, and i hate those dam racoon cause their only use is for train, and u made a whole post to post some excuses, u are a trainer, thats all


This proves you were very oblivious to the facts of things.

1) How can I leave you 3 templars when I'm heading TO the Uruga portal, not from. You need to learn your locales a little better before you sling a word you obviously have no clue about its meaning. Anyone who has traveled that section before could tell you there are 3 templars there but only way to "train" them on you would be to be coming from the Uruga portal towards you.

2) If you think the raccoon is only used to train then you are an even bigger idiot than first mentioned...

You've just discredited yourself not once but twice. Keep up the 'grand' work of making yourself worse. :3

You may wish to brush up on your facts a bit.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

lol what u can only do is to insult, u fell so self frustated that u can talk like a descent person, in fact for ur know there are 2 templars and 1 arc templar, i was near the uruga door, killing a des harken that i lured to avoid templar, and u came fro cp to uruga,
think a bit, a respect other ppl lady
grow up a little

[Jhanniss]

lol what u can only do is to insult, u fell so self frustated that u can talk like a descent person, in fact for ur know there are 2 templars and 1 arc templar, i was near the uruga door, killing a des harken that i lured to avoid templar, and u came fro cp to uruga,
think a bit, a respect other ppl lady
grow up a little


Hon, I already have you cold on this. You're getting desperate and saying all kinds of things now. Please stop embarassing yourself further.

As was mentioned I was on my way to the Uruga portal. I hadn't even approached the first Templar location yet. As your mushroom popped into view you automatically said I was a trainer, in caps, as I hadn't even reached you or that first Templar yet. Now, I kept on going and passed through the first spot where the first templar was (your location of being mushroomed) and then the following two on my way to Uruga.

Sorry hon but you're really digging yourself deeper with each reply. You are welcome to dig yourself to China if you wish but I have called and will continue call you out on your lack of knowledge and quick accusations while lacking the knowledge of the words you claim actually mean.

You're like a child who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and still continue to deny you did it.

[Lythari]

All I have to say here is that stuff happens. Learn to live with the fact that nobody is perfect, and not everyone is as experienced or familiar with different mobs or areas as others. If someone attracts a mob, it should follow as simple logic that they will be trying to get away from them. If you see such a person coming your way with an army of very angry and powerful monsters following them, what is stopping you from moving out of the way?

Conversely, if you attract such a mob, what stops you from pulling up your map, looking at what areas you are closing in on, and shouting: "Incoming D5!", or "Heads up, B7!"?

There are certain elements in this game that you don't have control over. How much aggro you attract and how many mobs chase you isn't always your own doing. However, how you deal with this, where you rest, and whether or not you warn people of the iminent doom coming there way is under your control. Don't rest where mobs are. If you see someone training, GET OUT OF THE WAY! If you have a mob chasing you, look at where your going, AND GIVE PEOPLE A WARNING!

Just because someone has a large mob chasing them doesn't mean they are looking for someone to dump them on. Likewise, not everyone resting is aware of the danger they are in and the traffic & monster population of the area.

[LatinoHeat]

*begin rant*

I shall leave the person un-named to protect their stupidity. The only clue I wish to give is they are in Necromancers. :P

Today I was in CP, checking out the new portals. Up in B0 is one of the new portals to Uruga.

Yay! I thought, finally don't have to die to get there. Awesome times right? Sort of.

I ran into a high level idiot. So I'm flying along on my tanuki (racoon) and I'm going through section C1. I see a blue shroom, again saving names to protect the stupid. Without even a second though the person types DAMMIT! ANOTHER TRAINER!

Training? You're on a traveled pathway in the midst of a lot of mobs. The definition of training is pushing mobs onto a person in order to drag them off you.

Now, I'm on my way to the portal. I don't need to worry about getting anything off me because: 1) I'm riding an animal faster than any creature in the game and 2) I have no idea you're there but don't accuse me of a defintion you have no clue about.

So the person continued to go on with me about "training" him and how I was in violation of the games rules, yada yada yada. Lots of pancakes for this kid but I have to tell you if you're reading this:

You're stupid a clueless newb if you think you've been trained when you're sitting in the midst of a ton of mobs on a traveled path to a portal. Don't like it? Go find a bridge, sit down, and shut up.

Stop wasting my braincells trying to get something very common sense into you thick clueless head.

*end rant*

jahanis watever how ur named spells u talk enuff like ur not the problem in any of ur screnerios necromancers are str8 mayb ur the problem get over it

[LatinoHeat]

Hon, I already have you cold on this. You're getting desperate and saying all kinds of things now. Please stop embarassing yourself further.

As was mentioned I was on my way to the Uruga portal. I hadn't even approached the first Templar location yet. As your mushroom popped into view you automatically said I was a trainer, in caps, as I hadn't even reached you or that first Templar yet. Now, I kept on going and passed through the first spot where the first templar was (your location of being mushroomed) and then the following two on my way to Uruga.

Sorry hon but you're really digging yourself deeper with each reply. You are welcome to dig yourself to China if you wish but I have called and will continue call you out on your lack of knowledge and quick accusations while lacking the knowledge of the words you claim actually mean.

You're like a child who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and still continue to deny you did it.

dont embarass urself either and act like ur all sophisticated or any better then any one else plese ur stilll a nub get alife the forums not ur friend jhannis

[LatinoHeat]

This proves you were very oblivious to the facts of things.

1) How can I leave you 3 templars when I'm heading TO the Uruga portal, not from. You need to learn your locales a little better before you sling a word you obviously have no clue about its meaning. Anyone who has traveled that section before could tell you there are 3 templars there but only way to "train" them on you would be to be coming from the Uruga portal towards you.

2) If you think the raccoon is only used to train then you are an even bigger idiot than first mentioned...

You've just discredited yourself not once but twice. Keep up the 'grand' work of making yourself worse. :3

You may wish to brush up on your facts a bit.

dont contradict urself either, is ur raccon show and tell no i dont think so, its to travel and i bet u goto the portal 2 and train pepl there so plese

[Atmor]

Sorry if this has been said before, I am too tired to read the entire thread at this time. That being said: Training is not against the ToS. However, training with the intention to kill is. People who continually train you to kill you, such as I have heard is done in AEW around the sap areas, is stupid, and against the rules and the people that do this should be reported.

[Lythari]

dont contradict urself either, is ur raccon show and tell no i dont think so, its to travel and i bet u goto the portal 2 and train pepl there so plese

Umm...can we leave personal attacks out of a discussion for five minutes? There is nothing to say that she uses her raccoon to train random people.

It would seem that people here are more concerned with telling someone 'You're wrong, I'm right' than they are trying to address the issue at hand, so let me put this back where it needs to be.

1. People are going to attract mobs as they travel; be it on foot, on hobby, or via raccoon.

2. Training is part of the game, and therefore cannot be against the ToS

3. Nobody here says that she had any ill intent with the monsters following her

4. If you see a train coming you're way, it is up to YOU as to whether you get out of the way, or just sit there

5. If you attract a large mob, it would be a courtesy to warn others in the area that you have the Army of Anubis nipping at your heels

6. It takes less time to move out of the way, than to shout 'Trainer!' at someone

7. I always keep one Rumen or Elderine scroll handy and hotkeyed just incase I get overwhelmed by mobs

8. Don't rest on the main drag of an area or where monsters tend to congregate, nor near the gates to a city or different area, or any other area that will be heavily traveled and populated

9. Keep the personal business out of these forums.

10. Learn to discuss things in a mature manner without mindless bickering that leads the thread off topic like this one just did.

Thank you and have a nice day :)

~Lythari Elf Warrior

[Saluyac]

dont mind latinoheat, just wants to cause trouble.

[Jhanniss]

To save everyone else the headache of reading through your numerous postings LatinoHeat, I've been nice and condensed it into one.

See how easy it is to respond in one thread instead of making 3+? Lazy little boy.



jahanis watever how ur named spells u talk enuff like ur not the problem in any of ur screnerios necromancers are str8 mayb ur the problem get over it


You must have serious problems considering you're quoting me and can't even figure out how to spell my name right? Hello, its right there in the quote.

Shorthand shows lack of intelligence for the most part but I doubt you have much to begin with judging from your lack of depth in previous responses. Do you really expect to be taken seriously with your writting or just laughed at like this right now? ._.

And scenarios? I'm sorry, I was talking facts. Like the problem with Hades, what were you smoking in attempting to reply to these posts? You may wish to be like Hades and brush a little on those things, they save you from further embarassment. Unless you're into such things... but to each their own I guess.



dont embarass urself either and act like ur all sophisticated or any better then any one else plese ur stilll a nub get alife the forums not ur friend jhannis


Again, someone who can't even use proper English is telling me off. I love the irony of this. I think you're just jealous that I got scratch and sniff stickers with my A+ English assignments in 3rd grade, which right now you're barely making it past 1st.



dont contradict urself either, is ur raccon show and tell no i dont think so, its to travel and i bet u goto the portal 2 and train pepl there so plese


Am I suppose to take your words seriously considering your can't even use proper sentence struction? "o rly, u r 2". You realize people who write like that are more apt to be looked down upon regardless of what they're trying to say right? This is a written forum, not your cell phone. Again, lazy little boy.

At any rate I love my raccoon. Hate away... it won't change a thing other than further solidify what I've been trying to put down on ya.

[Saluyac]

nah he does that to everyone, called me salulac, must look at our names once then try to type it out from memory, who knows

I personally want to see of what he makes of the name Keyaroscuro, maybe.....Kayacuro?