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GM_Lightburb
10-31-2011, 05:59 PM
On the evening of Sunday October 30th Outspark experienced a brief database issue that unfortunately resulted in many Outspark user accounts receiving a message that their account was banned when they tried to login to a game.

Early on Monday October 31st, some users item/character database information was compromised and changes were made to inventory and some characters. As a result of these issues, Outspark has decided to rollback the Fiesta game database 24 hours to restore lost character and items and correct banned accounts. This is the first of many steps we will be taking to remedy this situation.

Starting last night we immediately began an investigation that will continue until we are satisfied that we have identified all aspects of this incident. We will then develop and implement a plan to ensure that it does not recur. We will provide more information when we have conducted our investigation.

As we continue our investigation we want to assure our users that your account security is of the utmost importance. As far as we can tell, there has been no evidence of breach of personal user information. We are taking this issue very seriously and will be working to ensure the security of all our users' information.

We thank you for the trust you place in us; we know that you do not do so lightly, and want to assure you that we value that trust and are doing all we can to live up to it every day.

jmercier
10-31-2011, 06:03 PM
Thank you OS. I appreciate this post.

hkryushi
10-31-2011, 06:03 PM
Well, right when I said I wasn't satisfied about not getting all the details you come a couple minutes later and post them. Thanks! Good to know, I feel more reassured about how things are being handled right now.

falcer07
10-31-2011, 06:07 PM
So does this mean the servers will be back up soon? Or are they going to be down till you guys find out everything?

winner52
10-31-2011, 06:07 PM
Thank you outspark for the post and best of luck to fixing all of this. I bet its not fun.

minipkr
10-31-2011, 06:09 PM
sucks how im still banned for no reason tho -_-

miwo_kovo
10-31-2011, 06:11 PM
The items that have been gifted to someone will remain gifted I presume?

blacksteel77
10-31-2011, 06:12 PM
Thank you OS. I appreciate this post.

^what he said

AkiraUchiha
10-31-2011, 06:15 PM
No I don't like this what the heck are we players who leveled and bought spark cash items yesterday suppose to do? Are you gonna give us our stuff back or are you gonna pretend we never even got it? I have been playing Fiesta since the DAY it came out in open beta and the old GM's ALWAYS put us first when they had to do a rollback before they gave us our stuff back and had 100% exp for a week and now all you guys are giving us is 50% for a day and not giving us our items back!? That's stealing and totally bad for business you will lose a lot of players if this is actually whats happening so I better see my archer at level 98 at 13% with a 30 day DJ headphones (evasion) 30 day nerd glasses (critical) and my 30 day 100% exp boost card that I got yesterday either still equip but with the time returned or at LEAST sitting in my spark cash inventory. If you read this thanks for reading but if you steal from me say goodbye to a loyal player.

phntm
10-31-2011, 06:16 PM
So does this mean the servers will be back up soon? Or are they going to be down till you guys find out everything?

Lol u said this a minute or even less than a minute before GM_Velfarre announced that the servers are open

socram13
10-31-2011, 06:21 PM
im gonna quit i hate the actual situation

supersayian3
10-31-2011, 06:22 PM
Haveing trouble logging in every time i log in i log right back out OS you guys aren't helping much

shoopdawoopp
10-31-2011, 06:23 PM
MonsterRehab here from Bijou.
Still banned, and cannot log in. :/

flaaron123
10-31-2011, 06:32 PM
well i had 3 day ban for potty mouth how since i havent been playing i dont know but anyway the time is up on that and im still banned..

dchard05
10-31-2011, 06:35 PM
what happens on the GT matches last sunday night?

zhejia
10-31-2011, 06:37 PM
guess what, when i go online 5 golds is gone from my inventory and one 85 blue archer armor is added to my inventory

I DID NOT BUY A ARCHER ARMOR.

So how now??????

Well im quitting fiesta!!!<Removed>

leigon666
10-31-2011, 06:41 PM
OS you messed up hard this time... If you guys are gonna roll back atleast make it worth while a fix the lag.... My Weapon got rolled back to +8 and i tried to re-enhance it... and guess what happen... It failed 5 times in a row when last night i +9 in 2 tries... and +10 in another 2 tries.... i dont get it, you should fix the issue not make it worse e.e and 50% exp boost doesnt do anything to me... and i dont think it does anything to anyone cause ppl wasted valuable time grinding or Questing just to ger rollbacked... I invested alot in you guys just for this... Way to go n.n

infamous_bye2death
10-31-2011, 06:46 PM
i dont like the roll back cause i finaly got my 40g and now im back to being broke and dont think i can get the 40g back

zhejia
10-31-2011, 06:47 PM
I invested a lot in fiesta, yesterday i manage to buy a godly HK lab had and pants now everything is gone, besides that the money i have made last night are all gone and OS has miss calculated my item

5golds gone and one archer top is added to my inventory.

well byebye fiesta nice ROLLL BACK.

wardomic
10-31-2011, 06:50 PM
guess what, when i go online 5 golds is gone from my inventory and one 85 blue archer armor is added to my inventory

I DID NOT BUY A ARCHER ARMOR.

So how now??????

Well im quitting fiesta!!! <Removed>

Watch the language. You're complaining about 5 gold and an archer armor you may have picked up? The roll back was done to to where things were 27 hours ago, there are worse things that would have happened if this rollback didn't occur. Be happy you only lost 1 day, you'll be able to get back to where you were easily enough.

loty1993
10-31-2011, 06:52 PM
pfff os givme my all lvl 95 and 60% from 96 back i don't just want lose my time
a 50% wath can do for me ...hard to finde pt and get exp do somenting u think we don't have nothing to do nrl??? an 50% exp is nothing givme back my lvl 96 with 60% already

shampoopsy
10-31-2011, 06:53 PM
That's sad OS...Everyone lost too many stuff and u guys just gonna give us 50% exp for 24 hours? lol... bad thing...

infamous_bye2death
10-31-2011, 06:54 PM
your complaining about 5 gold dude i lost 46g in total

leigon666
10-31-2011, 06:54 PM
Watch the language. You're complaining about 5 gold and an archer armor you may have picked up? The roll back was done to to where things were 27 hours ago, there are worse things that would have happened if this rollback didn't occur. Be happy you only lost 1 day, you'll be able to get back to where you were easily enough.

That day was an important day for alot of us e.e at the very least they should of fixed some bugs or this terrible lag thats going around....

wardomic
10-31-2011, 06:58 PM
While it's true that some players got lucky on the wrong day, there's always the chance of getting lucky again another day. The point is there were worse things that could have happened. Imagine loosing weeks/months/years worth of play time/work, or having the economy turned up upside down, both of which could have happened if the rollback didn't occur. It wasn't an easy decision for Outspark but they made the right choice. Give it time and more players will recognize that fact.

zhejia
10-31-2011, 06:58 PM
Be happy? Would you be happy?

first i did not buy or pick a 85 blue archer armor at all
second i managed to buy a rare 105 lab HK head and pants, i cant find the vendor now. and everything is roll back.

Would you be happy?? if you are means you got something wrong in the brian!!!

leigon666
10-31-2011, 07:04 PM
Just Admit it Devs.... you guys got hacked... lost valuable information... and ppls accounts, Rolled back to Cover it up... added another Xtrap Bs Anticheat That only makes the Game worse... i dont get it..

rpraven
10-31-2011, 07:06 PM
Thanks, Lightburb...Outspark handled this quickly and much better than Sony did with their breach. In a week, I won't even remembered it happened..

lxlAnGeleoSlxl
10-31-2011, 07:07 PM
yea and i cant log in now from the new xtrap error :D

shampoopsy
10-31-2011, 07:07 PM
Pff happy for who got the acc back but sad with OS now because who got money? Gear? Used cash? Enchants? They lost all that...? What about the GT yesterday? pff OS should to do more then EXP BOOST for 24h that's nothing if we compare with...

wardomic
10-31-2011, 07:07 PM
1: If you have a complaint about how the rollback caused the archer armor/gold problem you have, which considering the economy is minor, then you're free to contact CSR and request they double check your account.

2: No one would be happy about loosing something they've been trying to obtain, but what you SHOULD be happy about is you didn't loose as much as you could have if Outspark didn't take action.

3: There are worse things that could have happened, this was for the best, so take a deep breath, calm down, and think about what if you were in the shoes of someone who had characters deleted.

4: It was impossible to solve these issues without a rollback in a timely manner, end of story.

leigon666
10-31-2011, 07:12 PM
No lag For once??? T5 Ultras Gone to hell??? Used SC??? yeah.... Why dont you restore that...

salvatrucha
10-31-2011, 07:13 PM
I want my XP back1!!!!!!

zhejia
10-31-2011, 07:17 PM
50%boost for 24hrs is enough to compenstate all the losses player had suffered due to the roll back?
customers sounds like a dirt to OS

Well since thats the case no points for me to continue playing also. as a player/customer i was treated like that roll back causing my to lost 6.6Gems, now my money is gone, gears are gone,exp are gone
are you just going to compensate me with 50% boost for 24hr?

That makes me feel i am so cheap....

flaaron123
10-31-2011, 07:19 PM
lol im still banned when i shouldnt be and all they say is put a ticke tin IM BANNE DI CANT PUT A TICKET IN.

shampoopsy
10-31-2011, 07:20 PM
Man the problem isn't that... WE JUST want something better then a 50% exp boost for 24h... Isn't easy to lvl... at main for who work... man that's sad... give something better then a 50% exp boost -.-' that's the minimum u guys can do e.e

fakun
10-31-2011, 07:24 PM
I lvled up 4 levels, questing, grinding, i used a exp card, sold my claws for 25g, i spent hours, i lvl up that 'cause i needed to put new items on my that i dont have anymore, ¬¬ i'm upset 'cause i though positive and i say to myself: "Hey u can lvl up that again, and sell ur claws and get all normal" but GUESS WHAT?! a bin error, and i'm not the only one with that issue, i CAN'T! play and now, how i'm suppossing to lvl up, in a magical way?, giving you to me SC items for the hours that i spent, ENJOY THE 50% EXP BOOST ON GAME?! no, CAUSE I CAN'T PLAY!!!!!!, i restart my PC, the internet, i kill process and it's the same all with a damn LAG! D.D SRLY!? i'm quitting and if u want to contact me send me message here, or contact me on facebook like Santiago Facundo ¬¬ 'cause i won't play 'till i get news or something that you're going to fix it, or for the god sake, DO SOMETHING RIGHT!!, twice ago were KQ not recruiting, FL messed up, and other things that even get fixed yet like the academy chat issue.

acrimsonescape
10-31-2011, 07:29 PM
Thank you GMs! You guys are working so hard and so quickly :) Keep up the good work. It kinda sucks losing all of yesterday's work, but I think it was worth restoring the deleted items and compromised accounts. A 50% exp boost this coming weekend would be nice though. lol

lengm
10-31-2011, 07:30 PM
hopefully i get my exp soon becuase i got to hit 104 asap

leigon666
10-31-2011, 07:37 PM
All i want is my damn +10 Axe and my Wifeys shield to +7 Back... nothing else e.e Atleast make something happen OS e.e Fix something right....dont half *** it and give ppl this bs Exp... they could care less about the Exp, People want Recent progress not an incentive that not everyone will enjoy. Nuff Said

mandoscream
10-31-2011, 07:39 PM
Yea well, you did all your roll back and all that stuff, but i'm still missing all my items? ***?
need a reply soon pls (: or tell if i need to send another ticket .-.

zhejia
10-31-2011, 07:43 PM
my last post here

I know OS wont do anything but stick to 50% boost for 24hr, players anger or whatever is not going to do anything to change their decision.

Time to move on, cya guys and good bye fiesta and OS xD

sirwill74
10-31-2011, 07:46 PM
O.K. I understand the whole issue and understand why you guys did what you did. That does not make me any happier about it. I got good drops. What are we that had orange items and were so excited about it supposed to do now? What are those that spent literally hours on end just vending stuff supposed to do? Put in more time to resell the items? I hate a waste of energy and time. I am not gonna grip about losing levels, although I did. Doing quests and grinding levels is part of the game, But what about all the Items that dropped for me and the enchancing that I did? There are a lot of people that are not happy about this. you must do something other than a lousy 50% boost for a day. There are people that can't even log on now due to a .bin Error or something else. The game does freeze on loading a lot that should be fixed as well. I myself think that SC is a little overpriced but I will not get into that. My friend that I have been leveling side by side with is so upset that he wanting to quit. My friend and I have been at it for about a month and that my not seem like a lot but I have been buying most of his SC stuff. I have spent a lot of money on this game and realy do not want to have to quit and take my money with me. I like the community ( No-Drama Rocks!!!!) But if my friend quits then I will have to go we are a package deal so please try to do better than a 50% xp boost for a day. How about 90% enchancment success for a day or something. I am not sure how to resolve this I guess that is your job. I really do not want to leave Fiesta has become a big part of my non - life. It is up to you. And I want my 105 orange Dual Swords back!!! TY

fakun
10-31-2011, 07:52 PM
O.K. I understand the whole issue and understand why you guys did what you did. That does not make me any happier about it. I got good drops. What are we that had orange items and were so excited about it supposed to do now? What are those that spent literally hours on end just vending stuff supposed to do? Put in more time to resell the items? I hate a waste of energy and time. I am not gonna grip about losing levels, although I did. Doing quests and grinding levels is part of the game, But what about all the Items that dropped for me and the enchancing that I did? There are a lot of people that are not happy about this. you must do something other than a lousy 50% boost for a day. There are people that can't even log on now due to a .bin Error or something else. The game does freeze on loading a lot that should be fixed as well. I myself think that SC is a little overpriced but I will not get into that. My friend that I have been leveling side by side with is so upset that he wanting to quit. My friend and I have been at it for about a month and that my not seem like a lot but I have been buying most of his SC stuff. I have spent a lot of money on this game and realy do not want to have to quit and take my money with me. I like the community ( No-Drama Rocks!!!!) But if my friend quits then I will have to go we are a package deal so please try to do better than a 50% xp boost for a day. How about 90% enchancment success for a day or something. I am not sure how to resolve this I guess that is your job. I really do not want to leave Fiesta has become a big part of my non - life. It is up to you. And I want my 105 orange Dual Swords back!!! TY

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zacpoppy
10-31-2011, 07:56 PM
lol wasted 10 hrs to level and lost it. and 45g, nice. Way to go.

mush69
10-31-2011, 08:01 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. i lost so much exp... i played for 5 hours yesterday, all lost.... i hope i can get it back. it is so much waisting of time.
If i spend again so much time tonight and tomorrow i have nothing, this will be my last night...

shadoweve
10-31-2011, 08:11 PM
i think its funny that some people are like "oh its just one day of rollback, be grateful"

the community of this game baffles me. r u guys seriously so attached to this game you let people walk all over you. letting a company basically take your money and your time. wow. people should stand up more than giving excuses. stop letting this company brainwash you with their false smiles. you think they are trying to be your friend, they really aren't.

baffles me more than people will continue playing, continue trudging along to play this game after all their loss. there is no gain in continueing. Most people only continue playing because of how much time they spent on their character. Well in future that time spent was wasted anyways. You really going to play this game for the rest of your life?

if you continue playing this game it shows that
- you like going through the torture of leveling
-enjoy how the people in the game treat each other (awful)
-like to spend a lot of money/time
-have nothing better or don't know of other games
-think people on this game are their friend. but truly aren't.
-enjoy how nothing gets fixed despite the large amount of income the company receives.
-enjoy complaining about how the company does nothing right.


if this post gets removed shows how they try and hush things up :3. so you can be slaves foreverrrr

mandoscream
10-31-2011, 08:17 PM
XD nice post

falcer07
10-31-2011, 08:22 PM
I've noted that XD I'm magical! lolz

maushaus
10-31-2011, 08:24 PM
Thank you for providing an official statement as to what is going on. Since it was not mentioned, I must assume that you do not know how your database was compromised nor have you plugged the hole that allowed the breech in the first place. I sincerely hope this is not the case but rather you are keeping certain details to yourself. However, If this hole is still there, what is to prevent another compromise and another rollback? It would seem that until you (OS) can assure us that the security vulnerability has been found and plugged, that is would be risky to continue play. For me I lost nothing on this rollback (lol actually gained exp..BoT less grinding), but many lost much... I am sure no one wants to go through the same circumstances again especially if it is accomplished through a known yet unfixed security hole in your system.

doublesneak
10-31-2011, 08:25 PM
Hours of farming lost, and all you do is give a server wide exp boost? *** Thats basicly saying well, screw you capped players who farmed sl all night.

amgcma
10-31-2011, 08:26 PM
This wasn't the first rollback ever to hit Fiesta. GM's take the right path to resolve issues like this to keep your accounts safe. A 24 hour rollback is nothing compared to the last rollback. Be happy you didn't lose weeks of time. Be happy they give you anything in return at all. You got your account back to how it was 24 hours ago. Only things lost were in game items and exp gained during that time frame. Any money spent on SC will be returned they don't steel from the customers like that. Be happy they care about the security of the game at all. Just stop all the complaining and if you don't like it move on. Trust me you wont be missed.

shadoweve
10-31-2011, 08:29 PM
This wasn't the first rollback ever to hit Fiesta. GM's take the right path to resolve issues like this to keep your accounts safe. A 24 hour rollback is nothing compared to the last rollback. Be happy you didn't lose weeks of time. Be happy they give you anything in return at all. You got your account back to how it was 24 hours ago. Only things lost were in game items and exp gained during that time frame. Any money spent on SC will be returned they don't steel from the customers like that. Be happy they care about the security of the game at all. Just stop all the complaining and if you don't like it move on. Trust me you wont be missed.

be happy he only hit you once. it surely will never happen again :)

amgcma
10-31-2011, 08:32 PM
This game is far from complete, and hackers wont dissappear over night so yes I am sure it will happen again. Keep in mind Fiesta isn't a way of life so why cry over 24 hours?

hkryushi
10-31-2011, 08:46 PM
Reply in bold.


if you continue playing this game it shows that
- you like going through the torture of leveling
I've seen and played through far worse 'tortures' that is known as leveling and grinding. Despite the various leveling speeds from 1~110 it isn't horrific unless you don't play many games.

-enjoy how the people in the game treat each other (awful)
Nope, but if you assume that think what you want but it's nice to know at least some people are nice and polite, which cheers me up.

-like to spend a lot of money/time
I spend my free time, I have only spent like what, $20? Is that a lot? I've known people who spend thousands on MMOs, which is an amount I'd probably never reach in total of money spent playing games up until I buy a new computer.

-have nothing better or don't know of other games
I've played well over 70 MMOs, I come back to Fiesta because it's simple, fun and because of the nostalgia value. It isn't that old, but still.

-think people on this game are their friend. but truly aren't.
You must be an expert on what's a friend, define it. I must assume then no one in real life can be your friend either.

-enjoy how nothing gets fixed despite the large amount of income the company receives.
If nothing was fixed no one would be able to play Fiesta. Things do get fixed, we can't get everything we want but since OS didn't create and develop Fiesta I can only direct my frustration toward OOS. As for money, what else is new?

-enjoy complaining about how the company does nothing right.
You enjoy more about that than I it seems. Also, for me personally they have done something right, and not only now. Then again you probably think I'm in denial and wear a tin-foil hat.


Well, I guess I must be a horrible person for having different opinions and ideals.

dhayn
10-31-2011, 08:53 PM
Well as everyone says first good thing they did the roll back for what ever happened. second yes we all lost stuff here like my vendor who made like 50g and the 120 golds i spent buying rare drops ..... it costed me more then just 24 hrs to get that and now is all gone. i just hope they do more then just 50% exp... wich does not return the time i spend on this.

sakinar
10-31-2011, 08:55 PM
u guys have had some really dumb ideas lately, but this one takes the cake. wonder how many people r quitting over this one.

u ppl ruined a perfectly fun game and made it a boring joke.

cant u ppl get ur acts together long enough to do ur jobs? this is really getting old REALLY fast.

shadoweve
10-31-2011, 08:58 PM
Reply in bold.


Well, I guess I must be a horrible person for having different opinions and ideals.

i think your a game addict. maybe you don't mind :3.

jordoslayer
10-31-2011, 09:02 PM
Hi GM Lightburb, you said "some users item/character database information was compromised and changes were made to inventory and some characters" than you go on to say "As far as we can tell, there has been no evidence of breach of personal user information". Does this mean there is a possibility that they could have accessed credit card information/details from previous SC purchases? thanks .

hkryushi
10-31-2011, 09:07 PM
Well as everyone says first good thing they did the roll back for what ever happened. second yes we all lost stuff here like my vendor who made like 50g and the 120 golds i spent buying rare drops ..... it costed me more then just 24 hrs to get that and now is all gone. i just hope they do more then just 50% exp... wich does not return the time i spend on this.

Hopefully they will set-up some more compensations on the way as time goes by. I don't think some of the GMs were even satisfied about the 50% EXP boost either. Considering what could be done within about 12 hours on a weekend. I'm still hoping they'll increase it to 100%, add it to drop rate as well and have it run for a few more days. Asking for a week sounds a bit much but it would be nice.



i think your a game addict. maybe you don't mind :3.

I wish I was so I would hit level cap for once. I don't know why, I have a problem with that, I get within 10 levels and suddenly poof, I lost interest. Looking at my level, I'm kind of doing that right now.

;_; Maybe I'm a "special" game addict.

KiryuKyosku
10-31-2011, 09:15 PM
Hours of farming lost, and all you do is give a server wide exp boost? *** Thats basicly saying well, screw you capped players who farmed sl all night.

Want a medal now?

shadoweve
10-31-2011, 09:29 PM
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Hopefully they will set-up some more compensations on the way as time goes by. I don't think some of the GMs were even satisfied about the 50% EXP boost either. Considering what could be done within about 12 hours on a weekend. I'm still hoping they'll increase it to 100%, add it to drop rate as well and have it run for a few more days. Asking for a week sounds a bit much but it would be nice.




I wish I was so I would hit level cap for once. I don't know why, I have a problem with that, I get within 10 levels and suddenly poof, I lost interest. Looking at my level, I'm kind of doing that right now.

;_; Maybe I'm a "special" game addict.

"I've played well over 70 MMOs, I come back to Fiesta because it's simple, fun and because of the nostalgia value. It isn't that old, but still"

deftones93
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
this is bull i lost6 levels am no longer in my acadamy and my mini slime is gone not to mention what else?! horrible freaking service. >:( not to happy with outspark right now:mad:

xkarma
10-31-2011, 09:52 PM
ROFL the rollback they havent even returned the items i gifted ppl or returned me SC so i lost about 35k sc :(

Bancuga
10-31-2011, 09:56 PM
ppl be happy that u can log into game... xtrap window pops up whenever i type my email and password and says i should close all other windows in order to allow xtrap/fiesta to work..i do that, and instead of game turning on, everything shuts..i tried reinstalling and bunch of other craps, but nothing

Bancuga
10-31-2011, 10:21 PM
u ppl can spit on them as much as u want, u think they care? u will do it for few more hours and get over it since nothing can be done to fix it and continue playing

i would like to ask some of u to help me with my issue even tho i know u are already pissed with urs
would really appreciate it if someone could answer on my previous post.. thanks in advance

dont get pissed/annoyed over a game, all those stuffs can be gained back..i understand that its 24hours of wasted time but... u knew that could happen but u still risked..well not exactly this but something common

i am sure that all of u got something more important in ur lives then one game
game should be there to help u when ure bored and such..not to **** u and destroy ur life little per little
stress/anger are bad things, they cause many diseases, so ppl, please calm down and just forget about it..nothing can be done

shahzebmal
10-31-2011, 10:26 PM
I gifted someone over 15K worth of sc as thank you because he helped me buy some gears, and helped me out in game. Because of the rollback, I am now down 15K sc and itemless. I don't care how you guys that are trying to defend this as them making the right move, but OS just profited off my money in the most illegal way possible. And I am not the only one in the boat. I realizethat this was a safety measure, but NEVER steal your customers money. It's like going to a barter shop, giving someone your money for an item, and then they say "oh we need the item back, but we are keeping your money too." It is illegal. Weather in a digital or physical medium. Roll back the spark cash too, I know Halloween is a big earning time for the company, but tread the legal grounds carefully please.

blackylee
10-31-2011, 10:34 PM
this rollback made players lost a lot of things. hope we get something better than just 24hours exp boost. who cares about leveling. its the time we spent playing to gain items/gold etc...and also spend sc... hope they fix whatever is going on and reward us so we will want to continue doing what we like to do...

blackylee
10-31-2011, 10:36 PM
join date 1969?? wth.... btw.. first time complaining. sigh.

neronafalus
10-31-2011, 11:04 PM
Guys have you all considered that they are working on restoring the SC/game items that where lost? It's not an easy process to go through all the transactions that where made over the 24 hours that the rollback erased. I can understand that this will take time to resolve and this great seldom-used, it appears, virtue known as PATIENCE. I'm sure that they are probably figuring out what else they can do to attempt to satisfy players.

omni.knight
10-31-2011, 11:18 PM
LightBurb. In every game that I've played and mass hacking has occured, it's always been a result of players downloading third party softwares, bots, applications , "hacks" but actually ended up downloading keyloggers.

Is that a possible cause of our current issue ? More awareness against using 3rd party softwares plawx?

Don't tell me they don't exist. I've munched killpoints one _Missing and Done_ and their cleric which botted and farmed 7x abyss for years in cypion.

panzergrenadiere
10-31-2011, 11:22 PM
i lost my 10% i did yesterday :/ and all the new items i got, iam really mad with this situation, you know how is difficult lvl up in 9x lvls. i lost all my new items i got farming :/

daliuta
10-31-2011, 11:40 PM
yesterday i was lucky to find a weapon lvl 105 orange to lucky house and today is missing,it will have the same luck today?and someone will return my weapon?i do not need exp boots,just want the weapon back.

panzergrenadiere
10-31-2011, 11:41 PM
Hours of farming lost, and all you do is give a server wide exp boost? *** Thats basicly saying well, screw you capped players who farmed sl all night.

same situation man :/

lockednloaded
11-01-2011, 12:39 AM
People lost items after the incident and some never got their stuff back after the roll back it seems, not to mention even more players lost what they have worked for during that 24 hour that OS rolled back. Sounds like a poor decision made. Should of restored the items missing on each account that was compromised. They need to send a ticket just like everyone else that had issues.

I'm one of the unfortunate players who lost xp and sc from this rollback. I used my day off to gain 5 levels from 55 to 60 with 100% boost card and teva.

Tell you honestly, I feel like I was robbed from my hard work. I'm not sure If i should keep playing because I might lose that hard work again If you decide to make a random 24 hours roll back.

I'm just expressing my thoughts and feelings on behalf of fiesta players in all servers, It's all just common sense, If you put yourself on our shoes.

salesaa
11-01-2011, 01:13 AM
i was lvl 55 fighter now lv 54...
and had +9 GGK axe that inception has 12 str 13 end 19 dex ... +11 crit
and had mighty set on it... and i had 20g more that had gone...

server:bijou
character:Elite2012
level:54..

megaaronthebest
11-01-2011, 01:32 AM
i wna t naww all my exp is really or u know if return or not , just want a answer in the place of 1-3 hours im talking really nawˇˇ

renzo_8
11-01-2011, 01:33 AM
hi,, im aware u had done maintenance on oct 31st, now heres the problem,, in my account i have a lvl 99 cleric about to hit prestige ,, hes at 71% when i left him,, i log on thie foolowing day nov1 and hes exp was at 59%,, now how did that happen,, i grinded ln, done my repeats and endured long hours of soloing as a cleric and after the maintenance i lost exp? give me back my 71% i worked hard for it,, im not gonna lvl him till u do sumthing about the exp that was taken from my cleric, no attachments available with it,, its not like i expected that to happen ok ><

wardomic
11-01-2011, 01:42 AM
It's best for players to do their best to move on, rollbacks almost never happen, and are only used as a last resort(such as how it was used earlier today). There's always a way for it to have been worse, both without(guaranteed) and with the rollback. It can happen to ANY mmo for any publisher.

Don't blame Outspark for doing what was necessary, blame the players that took advantage of the situation.

darkace19
11-01-2011, 01:43 AM
On the evening of Sunday October 30th Outspark experienced a brief database issue that unfortunately resulted in many Outspark user accounts receiving a message that their account was banned when they tried to login to a game.

Early on Monday October 31st, some users item/character database information was compromised and changes were made to inventory and some characters. As a result of these issues, Outspark has decided to rollback the Fiesta game database 24 hours to restore lost character and items and correct banned accounts. This is the first of many steps we will be taking to remedy this situation.

Starting last night we immediately began an investigation that will continue until we are satisfied that we have identified all aspects of this incident. We will then develop and implement a plan to ensure that it does not recur. We will provide more information when we have conducted our investigation.

As we continue our investigation we want to assure our users that your account security is of the utmost importance. As far as we can tell, there has been no evidence of breach of personal user information. We are taking this issue very seriously and will be working to ensure the security of all our users' information.

We thank you for the trust you place in us; we know that you do not do so lightly, and want to assure you that we value that trust and are doing all we can to live up to it every day.

i lost 2 lvls b cuse of that

darkace19
11-01-2011, 02:01 AM
thats f up

renzo_8
11-01-2011, 02:08 AM
hi,, im aware u had done maintenance on oct 31st, now heres the problem,, in my account i have a lvl 99 cleric about to hit prestige ,, hes at 71% when i left him,, i log on thie foolowing day nov1 and hes exp was at 59%,, now how did that happen,, i grinded ln, done my repeats and endured long hours of soloing as a cleric and after the maintenance i lost exp? give me back my 71% i worked hard for it,, no attachments available with it,, its not like i expected that to happen ok ><,, u give 50% boost?u do the roll back yet all the quests i have done wasnt given back,,so im left with lesser exps with almost no quests but sucky repeats and and the best u can come up with 50% boost,, pathetic!!!

juliaan.
11-01-2011, 02:12 AM
does this mean i have to do my quests from yesterday all over again ? i logged back on and suddenly i got a 30% less experience than yesterday , and my quests i have done yesterday were back too.
so i just have to no-life again like yesterday to get my xperience back?? or is there another way to make this problem solved?
i c i'm not the only one in here but the one before me got a 50% xp boost , i agree with him : is that all we get ?
and i didnt even get a 50%xp boost.

jaan yo

wardomic
11-01-2011, 02:19 AM
so i just have to no-life again like yesterday to get my xperience back??

If you want to put it that way then yes, it's understandable for players to be frusterated over this situation but there was no other way to solve the issue at hand.

Do try to focus more on having fun instead of leveling, that'll make things go a little easier.

juliaan.
11-01-2011, 02:27 AM
If you want to put it that way then yes, it's understandable for players to be frusterated over this situation but there was no other way to solve the issue at hand.

Do try to focus more on having fun instead of leveling, that'll make things go a little easier.

well im kinda pissed that we have to do that. even more that we dont get something else for this problem.
im not in the mood now to play fiesta the next week.
thnx..

actif
11-01-2011, 02:45 AM
we know this good and ty but ... i lose 1 lvl i spend 14 hours yesterday to lvl my self
that mean all yesterday is nothing ... that's total unfair i need my lvl back ..???! at least you should give us 1 day 100% exp post cuz we want do all quest again ...

mystery8krisch
11-01-2011, 02:50 AM
I guess this was announced, I lost stuff too but I'm not complaining, try to do the same thing as OS does and let's see if you could get this fixed.. It's a game, it's not your real life or something..
Thx guys for fixing this so fast.

juliaan.
11-01-2011, 02:54 AM
I guess this was announced, I lost stuff too but I'm not complaining, try to do the same thing as OS does and let's see if you could get this fixed.. It's a game, it's not your real life or something..
Thx guys for fixing this so fast.


it might not be our life , but think most of us have vacation and we all no-lifed on this game and yesterday is undone so that makes we lose a day in our real life too.

mystery8krisch
11-01-2011, 02:55 AM
Yes we have vacation, but it was only monday, we have the whole week left for no-lifing on this game!! :D

UzumakiW
11-01-2011, 03:02 AM
I guess this was announced, I lost stuff too but I'm not complaining, try to do the same thing as OS does and let's see if you could get this fixed.. It's a game, it's not your real life or something..
Thx guys for fixing this so fast.

That's the spirit. So what if you wasted a couple hours on a game, just to have everything taken away from you in an instant. You could have done something for constructive and meaningful with that time, sure, but hey, at least you can start all over again and do the same exact thing all over again.

organize_kitchen
11-01-2011, 03:04 AM
damn !!! i spend 8-10 hours for farming 40 blues n make money 70g for vendor

but i got rollback ..... !!!!! damnnnnnnnnnn

i don't neeed exp ... i use this cha for farimg only .... """""waste my time""""

where're my 40 blues n money !!!!!!!!

harequil
11-01-2011, 03:08 AM
Lost 220 mil exp. ._.

VermillionTwilight
11-01-2011, 03:14 AM
A Rollback was the only solution. What would any of you done? Restored just your items? What about the hundreds of other people, plus the banned accounts and unbanned accounts?
I'm sure it might've been possible to fix many rollback'd item losses, but it would require a month of full server downtime. If you're all so dependant on Fiesta, could you live that long without it?
It may not be pretty, but it was a quick fix and while 25-50 people are unhappy, against the few thousand others that were screwed over it's acceptable losses.

On another note, I agree that the 24 hour 50% exp boost is inadequate compensation.
The time that was lost was the weekend's time. Which means more Fiesta time and less school/work. The new 50% boost for 24 hours is completely useless for most people who have to go to work or school during this time. It should at least be a week's duration at 100% with even a small drop rate increase.

miisme1
11-01-2011, 03:15 AM
So nice with an official statement. Thanks!
This is a very unfortunate issue and I hope for it to be solved asap.

xalcedo
11-01-2011, 04:33 AM
Why is my fault if they FAIL in keeping the sistem in safe???? How could that guy do it? This means OS has a fail security system so is not my fault and they have to deal with the banned accounts and all the things. And why not doing a rolback just for the ppl with banned accounts or delet caracters? If i delet my caracter now they can bring it back so do it for them as well. What ever OS fail and they delet the posts that are not in their advantage.Shame!

keviekef
11-01-2011, 05:15 AM
i was a almost lvl 43 cleric and thanks the rollback im now lvl 41 I WANT IT BACK !!!

ikkuh - cleric - bijou

phoenixxxxx
11-01-2011, 05:17 AM
i think its funny that some people are like "oh its just one day of rollback, be grateful"

the community of this game baffles me. r u guys seriously so attached to this game you let people walk all over you. letting a company basically take your money and your time. wow. people should stand up more than giving excuses. stop letting this company brainwash you with their false smiles. you think they are trying to be your friend, they really aren't.

baffles me more than people will continue playing, continue trudging along to play this game after all their loss. there is no gain in continueing. Most people only continue playing because of how much time they spent on their character. Well in future that time spent was wasted anyways. You really going to play this game for the rest of your life?

if you continue playing this game it shows that
- you like going through the torture of leveling
-enjoy how the people in the game treat each other (awful)
-like to spend a lot of money/time
-have nothing better or don't know of other games
-think people on this game are their friend. but truly aren't.
-enjoy how nothing gets fixed despite the large amount of income the company receives.
-enjoy complaining about how the company does nothing right.


if this post gets removed shows how they try and hush things up :3. so you can be slaves foreverrrr

I quit and deleted my characters just before this happened \o/

harequil
11-01-2011, 06:18 AM
i think its funny that some people are like "oh its just one day of rollback, be grateful"

the community of this game baffles me. r u guys seriously so attached to this game you let people walk all over you. letting a company basically take your money and your time. wow. people should stand up more than giving excuses. stop letting this company brainwash you with their false smiles. you think they are trying to be your friend, they really aren't.

baffles me more than people will continue playing, continue trudging along to play this game after all their loss. there is no gain in continueing. Most people only continue playing because of how much time they spent on their character. Well in future that time spent was wasted anyways. You really going to play this game for the rest of your life?

if you continue playing this game it shows that
- you like going through the torture of leveling
-enjoy how the people in the game treat each other (awful)
-like to spend a lot of money/time
-have nothing better or don't know of other games
-think people on this game are their friend. but truly aren't.
-enjoy how nothing gets fixed despite the large amount of income the company receives.
-enjoy complaining about how the company does nothing right.


if this post gets removed shows how they try and hush things up :3. so you can be slaves foreverrrr

Couldn't have said it better. =p You're awesome. <3 c:

xalcedo
11-01-2011, 06:48 AM
OS=noobs.............................

doublesneak
11-01-2011, 08:27 AM
Drop rate increase over weekend plox

ladyonthemoon
11-01-2011, 08:50 AM
Lots of complaints. This is my situation. All my chars were rolled back, the sc items that were purchased and gifted are all in my premium inventory waiting for me to reuse just as os said. All I lost was the day just as os said. This roll back was unfortunate and I do feel bad for the ppl who lost their time. It would have been better to wait to give the exp boost for 7 days, cover the time that was rolled back on the same day. A lot of ppl have the same days off each week and having the boost the next day may do nothing for them and leave them bitter. Other than that this was very needed.

btw, this roll back with exp boost actually benefits me. I had to work most of the roll back day. But I still think the ppl affected should get the boost not me.

heiji.
11-01-2011, 09:48 AM
I trust you, Burbie =)
I just hope it's not going to be a "sign" like one of those recently closed games (was it Fist of Fu or Solstice? Can't really remember..) where roll-backs are done ever so frequently.. I understand the situation calls for it, but hopefully, the need for it doesn't recur? >.<''

maya9292
11-01-2011, 10:31 AM
Unfortunate but things happen, I'm over it but still I'd like more than just 24 hours of 50% boost as compensation, think of this, sunday is the day off work/school for many people, me for isntance I'd need like three days to go back where I was, so how about 5 days of boost to get back what you lost and why not a bit more for that time we wasted.

gunzer2012
11-01-2011, 10:54 AM
Well clearly OS is not poor as there are tons of people buying SparkCash.In fiesta Sparkcash or SC in short is neccessary or more like compulsory.They had neglected the feelings/opinions from the majority players.This rollback have so much impact on other players.They spent their time/soul/money to play this game and this is what they deserve?A sudden rollback?Honestly,they are the one that should be responsible for the security of players.They thought 50% exp boost for one day will calm the player's nerves.I don't think so.Personally I lost few Gems due to this rollback.Well this is how much I have to say.Not asking for any compensation or anything.#Justsaying.Time to take a break from Fiesta.

CyberPhoenixSlayer
11-01-2011, 12:05 PM
If they want so badly keep their games alive and online they gonna have to update their security of their website and security of their games. Look what happen with Soltice:Reborn, there was too many problems they can't handle and decide to shut it down. Basically, they can do the same with this game anytime they want. The developper will see that happen one day like DNC did with Soltice:Reborn and shutdown the game.

OS basically wasting time/money for stupid stuff they should have fix long time ago and should fix quickly the security, surely somebody will hack again soon and this time, OS might not be lucky next time and may have no choice to shutdown the game. There has been too much security leak in 4 years they have these games and some fix has been done but too weak fix that can be easily bypassed by hackers a couples of times like this one that happen.

As for compensating players that have not lost their accounts with a 50% boost, hate to say this but, if someone was level 95+ before the rollback happen and have level up a lot, i feel their pain and i don't think these peoples would want to waste their time redoing again all the leveling they lost. In my opinion, what really happen is this rollback work only at 50%. Some hacked accounts banned got their stuff back and a lot lot stuff they have obtained or gain before that rollback happen, but at the same time, some account that got hacked are still banned and some items restored on some accounts have been changed. Something happen in the rollback that messed up everything.

So the security of ur games and ur website atm is not working proprely and gonna need to be upgraded at the max in the next couples weeks, because i don't think people will waste their time to find a another game if an another rollback happen. What happen in Solstice:Reborn is exactly the same copy/paste situation that happening in Fiesta and Luvinia(they have banned account issue as well) and no one like this atm. Im kinda dissapointed of the turns of events and im pretty sure there a lot and a hell lot of peoples that really wish this mess would have never happen if ur security programs we're upgraded way before other rollbacks happen in the past. Even if u do sales, that won't matter at all, who know if some hackers won't try to do something at the SC store and not use a method to find ID and passwords and hack again in this game or any other game u hold atm.

Short version: fix and upgrade ur security of website and games or lose ton of players that already left this game since that rollback happen. no one deserve what happen this time.

Impulse-Dave
11-01-2011, 12:17 PM
I would like to thank Lightburb and the whole OS team for what was a relatively quick reaction. Obviously, you can't always please everyone, but you can please the majority and that should be plenty. A 24 hour rollback is not a big deal, and everything that you've done once, you can do twice. Nothing in this game takes an extraordinary amount of skill. I am already back to where I was pre-rollback and am moving forward, as everyone else should. I look forward to reading about your findings from this investigation.

zizzister
11-01-2011, 12:27 PM
I would like to say that I am not quitting Fiesta. I still love this game. However, due to this incident, I am discontinuing my purchase on Sparkcash for awhile until I don't see any more auto bans, rollbacks, or other severe negativity brought to the community. I am unemployed and receive SSI from the government each month. I only get about a hundred dollars left over to use on whatever I want. I use a small portion of it on sparkcash. I was seriously thinking of paying for sparkcash on the day of the incident until I decided to wait. Thank God I did because that portion would have been useful for my electronic cigarette accessories or for my personal hygiene.

I don't know who is responsible for the database, but I can tell you this. If you are the one behind this, it's your fault for hiring the admin who made this happen. If OnsOnSoft was, then you are the victim, not us.

You have lost my trust in you and if you want it back, you have to prove it. How do you get it back? That is a mystery you will have to solve.

I am not just talking to you Lightburb, I am talking to the whole OS administration

CSR_Circe
11-01-2011, 02:12 PM
http://fiesta.outspark.com/news/view/?id=zbn.18686

rigpig_68
11-01-2011, 02:46 PM
I was going to submit a very rude sarcastic comment in here but after reading all the pages and pages and peages and peages and pages of comments I think the point has been put across!!
Well you would think that the point got across! But obviously it didnt nice job OS I know your job is super hard sitting there laughing and joking around in front of a computer at a desk all day long watching all the money roll in from us players who spend it on SC some more then others!!
If you hadnt noticed how mad people are and all the ones that are quitting already I would have done a lot more then what you just did now with your 50% boost thing (joke)!!
I seen a lot of the orange weapons a lot of people got from the lucky house and etc not including all the t5 stones or anything else anyone got. Then you have all the sc people bought and gifted to others, Then you also have all the experience gone. Blah Blah Blah this has all been said in this forum about 300 or more times.
I am not even going to get into what I lost (dramatic amount of money and enhancements that I did gears experience my one day off from work) but everyone says if you are missing something or have a problem send in a ticket it will get resolved!
In my past experience any time i sent in a ticket about anything it was never fixed!! I always was told ask people in game what they would do or try something else or anything (with none of it helping me) then get told we are sorry but we can not help you!!
So I have always just sat back and when something screwed up on my acct I just left it and got used to it because there is no point in wasting your time obviously!
I really feel sorry for all your GM,s that have to deal with all the angry players I know its not there fault or there call on whats to be done about anything they are just the slaves and u are the one with the whip!
Maybe you should spend a little less time spending the thousands of dollars a day you get for free from all these players and either go in and play the game and find out for yourself all the issues! Or just post a thread that you are ACTUALLY GOING TO READ AND LISTEN TO!

Once again sorry for my hostility but I really liked this game for something to do with my free time once in a while (which is very rare) and it is ruined for me I am on the verge of quitting and I know you or nobody else will miss me but I know im not the only one!

Sincerely rigpig ->105 knight everything enhanced to the max
rig_boss ->90 cleric for dt everything enhanced to the max godly gears
rig_tough -> 60 fighter everything enhanced to the max

xalcedo
11-01-2011, 02:54 PM
Yep you are not. Alot of ppl are quiting fiesta. Becouse they are unable to mantain this game. Lame OS.

giovanni2010
11-01-2011, 02:59 PM
I would like to say that I am not quitting Fiesta. I still love this game. However, due to this incident, I am discontinuing my purchase on Sparkcash for awhile until I don't see any more auto bans, rollbacks, or other severe negativity brought to the community.
Hey, calm down. Those things only happened once.

maya9292
11-01-2011, 03:15 PM
Thanks for the additions to the compensation (boost/drop) it surely motivates me to get back what I lost :)

davgop
11-01-2011, 03:25 PM
I think the hacker is back!!!
-not sure but sure seems like it.

~Meteor_Shower~

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l614/davgop/fiestasigcopy.jpg

giovanni2010
11-01-2011, 03:41 PM
I think the hacker is back!!!
-not sure but sure seems like it.

~Meteor_Shower~

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l614/davgop/fiestasigcopy.jpg

oh no! hes back! run!

I don't think that Fiesta got hacked.

musik_runner
11-01-2011, 03:49 PM
Oh I got this when I tried to log in! Right now I guess I won't log in and here I just used a 2 hour charmed after I got binned.

GM_Lightburb
11-01-2011, 04:14 PM
Sorry, I totally did not reason replies to this thread were possible. I'm closing this. The discussion about the rollback is going on in the General Discussion section. Most of the questions posted in this thread have been answered there so check it out.