WIS, What does it do for a MAGE?

[Squaresumi]

I need to know because i keep seein ppl talk about only Full INT or INT/MEN.

So the question here is: Do i need to put points into WIS?:confused:

[Fireslinger]

putting a few stat points into WIS isnt such a horrible idea...

i dont do it solely due to the fact that I am a full INT/MEN and like to milk that for all its worth...

WIS increases mp regen and your mp pool, so dumping a few extra stat points into that such a bad idea... it all depends on the mage and on how they want to function

[nemphis001]

it increases mp and gives +1 to mana regen

i increased my WIS stat to 10 at some point frm lvl 18 - 25

if this is your first character in the game it will help u save loads of time and money...

plus im pretty sure mages would anyway need to increase their WIS stat at somepoint in the future... and for those who have played ragnarok b4 would know that going pure int is a baaaad idea ;)

[niwakaze]

Guess what...OMG THIS ISNT RAGNAROK ;/!!!

[Squaresumi]

:Dok thx alot...i think im gonna put my WIS to 10 but im already lv 25 so im gonna have to check on that...but as for MEN, im goin towards that route of full INT/MEN ( with a little WIS;)...They have a High crit rate and cast fast so that will be useful ^^...

P.S: Ragnarok owns...cant w8 till RO2 WOOT!!!

[Lysarius]

Why would you not go full int on a mage in RO? 99 int 99 dex. >>

[Fireslinger]

I don't mean to be rude, but if you are going to talk about RO can you make another thread and post there instead of here?

[nemphis001]

yeah we do get int maxed out towards the end since its like the primary stat... but during low lvls we the mix the stats up

i dunno whether the high lvl skills for apprentice in SoS have casting time.. so far till lvl 39 i havnt seen any skill to take more than one second to cast... im pretty sure tat the aoe spells will have long casting time so hopefully MEN will be usefull then

[koolaidboi]

Why would you not go full int on a mage in RO? 99 int 99 dex. >>

LOL because 99 dex and 99 int wizards fail. They can barely hold gear and pots for woe and plus without haveing decent vit you get one shot killed by edp sinx.
Anyway ontopic focus on high int some vit a decent amount of wiz.

[Nightphire]

Ro sux so yeah.. And Lighting is an AoE saw Fire playing around with it a lil earlier today dosn't take more than 1second like the rest... XP I don't have anything in wis... I'm all int and i do just fine so how does all int fail D:

[Shin_Skillet]

I haven't put anything into Men. Full INT with a few into WIS.

[emoking]

Woops wrong thread sorry

EDIT: Made a stupid post and saw I put it in the wrong thread -_-

[Fireslinger]

as for casting time, I have to admit that the two spells I have that take the longest are Magic Ice and Magic Poison...

Thunder, Fire, and Lightning all take almost no time at all... thunder being one spell that has almost NO wait time with my build...

I do wish we could see the stats on an individual spell... but I'm not one to push, so I'll be happy with things just the way they are.

and as for WIS, let me pass along a piece of wisdom (no pun intended) that I find at the higher levels as a mage... I'm a INT/MEN mage... I cast QUICKLY, in fact, by the third spell, I'm out-casting a full INT mage, and I get almost two whole spells ahead on a red named creature (I have tested this out, I'm not just pulling stuff out my butt)...

while mages with an INT/WIS build might not cast as quickly, but due to the extra mana in their mana pool, they cast LONGER, so whereas I will run out of mana spamming those spells, those with INT/WIS will be casting not as quickly, but once I run out of mana, they'll still be spammin...

so each has it's advantages/disadvantages... pick your style...

oh and sorry for the MTG like refernces (i.e. mana pool)

[ViEtbOiKrUpTiOn]

there still really is no advantage to wis since all it does is increase your mana pool, and your ability to regen mp while RESTING, which you shouldnt be doing at higher levels anyways... therefore all you basically do is waste levels by devoting them into a useless stat.... it's called using potions, live laugh love.

[Fireslinger]

I don't wanna sound rude or condescending, but did you even read the post above yours?

and I sit whenever I can... I'm not the only high level apprentice to do so either... a good mage will sit when they get that chance to conserve pots and therefore not have to repot as often, allowing us to stay out in the field longer with our party... so therefore WIS would actually be a decent investment...

all things considered, WIS is not such a horrible idea...

Viet please check your sources and consider all angles before posting your opinion...

[ViEtbOiKrUpTiOn]

I did read your post, and really... staying longer with your party, that has no real point, because when you think about it, repotting should only take about 30 seconds at max.... i don't think the party would grumble about that when copmared to someone sitting for minutes.

You also said "while mages with an INT/WIS build might not cast as quickly, but due to the extra mana in their mana pool, they cast LONGER, so whereas I will run out of mana spamming those spells, those with INT/WIS will be casting not as quickly, but once I run out of mana, they'll still be spammin..."

Pure Int or Int/Ment mages can do the same with just a simple mana pot use.. not to mention they might SAVE some mana usage due to the superior damage they will deal compared to a wis hybrid, i'm not blindly posting my thoughts, i've thought about the side of where people actually sit and rest, and like i said.. repotting takes no time period, and as far as saving money goes, you can find all your equipment while grinding, all you need your money is for potions... some people might like to buy other things, but that's a luxury, not necessary, true that mp pots might also not be, but they aid you far better than things like pets do (for now).

[Fireslinger]

*laughs* then I must be the poorest mage in all of SOS...

I try to conserve pots as often as necessary... and I hate repotting... it's depressing, reminds me of how broke I really am...

nice to hear an opposing viewpoint on the WIS debate though Viet... this has sparked enough interest in me as a mage that I'm considering making another character sometime after I get my job change and trying the INT/WIS build just to test it out and see what happens...

*shrugs* maybe some mage is already trying it, in that case, I'd really like to talk to them...

[ViEtbOiKrUpTiOn]

I believe someone on the first page said they had some wis already, but doubt theyre high enough level to give a good opinion of whether or not it was worth it =p

[talonmas]

We have this debate going on in the Aco forum as well. And I fully support Viet's point of view. Wis has NO meaning what so ever. Who cares if my max is higher? A pot only heals 20 mana anyway. And after 2 casts i use a pot. So my mana shifts between 250 and 270 something. With wis it would shift between 380 and 400 instead maybe? And the benefit would be?

What I wish they would do is to change it so that pots heal more based on your Wis.

[victoriarosella]

Why would you not go full int on a mage in RO? 99 int 99 dex. >>
because 99 dex and 99 int wizards fail. They can barely hold gear and pots for woe and plus without haveing decent vit you get one shot killed by edp sinx.
Anyway ontopic focus on high int some vit a decent amount of wiz.

[koolaidboi]

*** I just said that why did you just copy me >:(

[Fireslinger]

let me copy myself...

if you want to talk about RO, make a thread for it and post there...

not to be rude, but it seems ignorant to post about RO in an APPRENITCES/MAGICIANS thread in a SECRET OF SOLTICE FORUM...

not to be rude, but it's just getting kind of old...

[Shadar]

I would agree that wisdom is useless, but I've been in a dungeon.

You don't have an ulimated supply of pots anymore, and the less you have to use in an emergency, the better.

[pipapipero]

Anyway...

Every class needs at least 60 Vit and a +7 gear to survive precast...

[niwakaze]

what was that pip, *stormgust* i couldn't hear you *stormgust* over all of the *stormgust* FREAKING STORMGUSTS. mash those F keys!!!! >:O