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bagarre
12-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Hi I have put points in AGI to attack more fast, but I have 10 points in AGI and I have only 1,3 attack speed... Lol when I will get the 1,2 attack speed? Never?

How much points we need to have for each -0.1 attack speed?

bagarre
12-21-2007, 07:44 AM
Is it because you dont understand what I demand that you dont answer me?

Rodaa
12-21-2007, 08:08 AM
double posting is bad

your attack speed isn't going to go up instantly, infact as a squire attack speed isn't even important, we get AGI for the critical rate. Your spamming skills the whole time, that isnt effected by attack speed

bagarre
12-21-2007, 08:27 AM
double posting is bad

your attack speed isn't going to go up instantly, infact as a squire attack speed isn't even important, we get AGI for the critical rate. Your spamming skills the whole time, that isnt effected by attack speed

I alternate 1 attack by 1 skill, its for this that I want to know if I can have 1,2 attack speed only with stats

Rodaa
12-21-2007, 08:39 AM
just keep increasing your AGI, if your attack speed increased to fast you'd be super fast in no time

Claiomh.Solais
12-21-2007, 10:05 AM
double posting is bad

your attack speed isn't going to go up instantly, infact as a squire attack speed isn't even important, we get AGI for the critical rate. Your spamming skills the whole time, that isnt effected by attack speed

Shouldn’t you get men for that then?

eugypt
12-21-2007, 10:48 AM
Hi I have put points in AGI to attack more fast, but I have 10 points in AGI and I have only 1,3 attack speed... Lol when I will get the 1,2 attack speed? Never?

How much points we need to have for each -0.1 attack speed?

17 agi. :cool:

Rodaa
12-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Shouldn’t you get men for that then?

well, since they both give it i think that if the game is balanced decently i reckon AGI gives more crit rate than MEN.

meh, i'll have to check

LP_le_killer
12-21-2007, 12:48 PM
17 agi. :cool:

Thank you eugypt, it's all that I wanted to know.

Lincos
12-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Rodaa, Agi give crit to normal attacks, Men gives crit to skill attacks.

Rodaa
12-21-2007, 01:56 PM
hmm...glad im going pure POW from now

Aurican
12-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Agi gives skill critical not normal attack crits. Unlike Men, Agi gives Pow which makes it more useful. It also gives dodge which helps most on low level maps. I hope everyone doesn't keep making pure builds..

LP_le_killer
12-21-2007, 06:07 PM
Rodaa, Agi give crit to normal attacks, Men gives crit to skill attacks.

Are you sure, I put 10 points in AGI and 1 in MEN and I have 2 critic and 4 skill critics...

Doubt
12-25-2007, 06:37 AM
MEN and AGI gives critical percentage to both skill and normal attacks.
However, MEN gives more percentage to Skill attacks, and AGI gives more percentage to normal attacks.

UltimateDude
12-25-2007, 06:47 AM
Agi gives skill critical not normal attack crits. Unlike Men, Agi gives Pow which makes it more useful. It also gives dodge which helps most on low level maps. I hope everyone doesn't keep making pure builds..

pure POW > all

arianmsani
12-25-2007, 06:51 AM
Agi gives skill critical not normal attack crits. Unlike Men, Agi gives Pow which makes it more useful. It also gives dodge which helps most on low level maps. I hope everyone doesn't keep making pure builds..

Aurican, i dont understand why you keep asking people to go 2 Pow 1 Agi or try to convince them that pure Pow is bad

In the end, its all about personal prefrence

Lincos
12-25-2007, 06:22 PM
Oo, sorry my mistake. It was Hit Rate that Men had that Agi never.

Again, sorry my bad.

Aurican
12-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Aurican, i dont understand why you keep asking people to go 2 Pow 1 Agi or try to convince them that pure Pow is bad

In the end, its all about personal prefrence

I don't tell people to, "go 2 Pow 1 Agi or try to convince them that pure Pow is bad".

Pure Pow JUST is Bad! XD
You will quickly bottle-neck on lower maps compared to other builds and waste all those points on Pow, and will not be able to handle higher level maps solo because you don't have the HP to soak the damage. The primary defense of Pure Pow is high defense, which isn't really true. Squires barely out-stripe other classes in defense. Monsters get stronger every map and damage increases. Without Sta you won't be able to soak all that, period. Over-burning merely saves you 2 points after you put it into wis. So you're not really gaining that much free HP.

Pow, Agi, and Sta work hand in hand if you raise the stats properly which will beat out pure Pow in prolonged fights AND quick fights.

Pure Pow does work in certain situations, but all those points are being wasted xD

shockboynick
12-28-2007, 07:20 AM
hahaha understand?

UltimateDude
12-28-2007, 01:28 PM
Pure Pow does work in certain situations, but all those points are being wasted xD

for example, if you plan to make pts lots of time and you wanna be a great damage dealer, pure pow is your way

Aurican
12-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Pure POW squire in a party? I'd rather have another Apprentice. The few points you should be diverting into other stats doesn't give that much of a change in damage. Agi gives a lower return on POW, but at the same time provides Skill Crit to make up for it. Not to mention the increase in attack speed. Sta keeps you alive, period.

Great damage dealer. xD

Pow/Agi, Slash! spammer is a great damage dealer..
Pow/Agi/Men, attack/skill is a great conservative damage dealer
Pure Pow, shows lots of big numbers and makes itself look good. xDD

If you can handle the Aggro, low level dungeons are great for Pure builds. Then again, it's better for Pow/Sta builds..

I don't do ratio builds. I divert points every fith level into secondary stats. Much better I think. >_>

UltimateDude
12-29-2007, 01:02 AM
at 56 in pt with pure pow build you can kick many monsters
I would like to agree with you IF we would get more than 1 point each lv up
from the moment we get only 1 (exept for *0 and for *5), make a build at this lv will be only a "some here some there" and you will not be strong in anything.
in my opinion, better be "great" in a stat than "good" in 2 stats

XXXFactor
12-29-2007, 02:05 AM
yo, fighters go pure pow, and nothing else, grab 6 wis, to get Blazing, but dont waste points in wis for the nxt lvl, its not worth it trust me. there is no need for other stats, other than pow. If u r diverting points in other places than pow...... >> i will find it hard to lvl after 5x, lmfao

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SweetiE1234
12-29-2007, 02:17 AM
Hi, sorry i don't have any people!!:confused:
double posting is bad


your attack speed isn't going to go up instantly, infact as a squire attack speed isn't even important, we get AGI for the critical rate. Your spamming skills the whole time, that isnt effected by attack speed

Lochlinn
12-29-2007, 05:19 PM
I have a Lv 51 Squire on a build of my own flavor, and I cannot keep up with pure power squires in terms of damage, ease of soloing, tackling harder monsters, etc. I should have to agree that it is difficult for me to train in the Lv 50's. Do not misunderstand me; I am far from being unplayable... but pure power seems to train faster than me.

My stats are 35 Pow: 1 Int: 12 Agi: 7 Men: 11 Sta: 6 Wis I was planning on following a more or less 3 Pow: 1 Agi: 1 Men: 1 Sta build. Perhaps a different build is more effective around this level.

Coming from someone who did not go pure power, it really does look as if pure pow except for 6 Wis for Blazing is the way to go to lv 66.

Besides, you can reset stats at lv 66 anyway and maybe at that point pure power from lv 66+ might not be the best way to go.

Rodaa
12-30-2007, 02:46 AM
Hi, sorry i don't have any people!!:confused:

er.....what are you talking about?