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Takako
01-02-2008, 07:44 PM
What's with busou renkin. It's all going down hill now. Meek is gone. Yui is gone. Jericho isnt leaving but what about chewie is he leaving too. It's been terrible since. Can someone tell me whats going on with BR?

KireiYosei
01-02-2008, 07:47 PM
D: I hope nothing bad happens to BR. I'm sure Jeri won't let it fall apart.

Falcomist
01-02-2008, 08:29 PM
I will make this as clear as possible without trying to hurt ppls feelings or anything or my guildmates... so ill say these in numbers or steps xD.

1. Meek left the guild because people in our guild were selfish about just lvling without considering anyone else below us in the guild. The fact that people partied the same people in order to lvl was kinda of a issue with our guild because Meek and I believed that they were ignoring everyone else in our guild that were lower. This is why Meek left

2. Yui left because she felt like she was semi active mode and that the guild wouldnt be bouncing back.

3. The guild IS and almost broken apart because people are now quitting the game or just doing their own thing * again with the issue of somewhat being selfish* However some people took breaks from the drama, but that didnt help solve anything

4. The guild is gonna fall with Jericho now quitting the game and that I will relieve myself as admin of the guild and of the guild itself. The reason is because people in our guild arent ATTEMPTING to make a change in our guild.

5. Meek could see that people in our guild WANTED things to come like fixing the guild and lvlin and w/e but since Meek left. People feel like they dont know what to do so they just quit as well.

6. I also feel like people are being selfish of taking breaks from the guild but i understand totally but as more took breaks the more people left and the morale grew week.

7. I do not regret being in BR since it was a guild based on strong connection and friendships among members however im QUITE disappointed that the responsibilities were put on the Admins and not the members itself causing not only myself but most admins crazy and stressed out about this issue.

8. Basically the guild is more or less dead and that either Kimahri or Shadow_Shot will become masters.

9. Sorry for letting down any friends or fans that we had along the way.

10. Guildmates its been fun but if u wanted things to change we had to make it together as a guild not as individual. Im disappointed in some of the selfishness and such but HEY! since no one wanted to make a difference so the guild in my opinion should fall when the guild doesnt care on what happens to it.

11. Goodbye BR and i take my leave of the guild tonite.

chelekat
01-02-2008, 08:39 PM
okay now i can post.

sorry to see br go. had a lot of good friends there, and it's sad to see such a strong guild fall apart. :(

KireiYosei
01-02-2008, 08:47 PM
If any BR members are friends of any Rush members and interested in joining Rush I will welcome them in. I recently adopted Remorse(Devantes former guild) and we have 12 spots open.
Sad to see BR go, through out all the MMOs I've played, it seems like the best guilds seem to always be the ones to break apart horribly.

Zelkova
01-02-2008, 08:49 PM
I will make this as clear as possible without trying to hurt ppls feelings or anything or my guildmates... so ill say these in numbers or steps xD.

1. Meek left the guild because people in our guild were selfish about just lvling without considering anyone else below us in the guild. The fact that people partied the same people in order to lvl was kinda of a issue with our guild because Meek and I believed that they were ignoring everyone else in our guild that were lower. This is why Meek left

2. Yui left because she felt like she was semi active mode and that the guild wouldnt be bouncing back.

3. The guild IS and almost broken apart because people are now quitting the game or just doing their own thing * again with the issue of somewhat being selfish* However some people took breaks from the drama, but that didnt help solve anything

4. The guild is gonna fall with Jericho now quitting the game and that I will relieve myself as admin of the guild and of the guild itself. The reason is because people in our guild arent ATTEMPTING to make a change in our guild.

5. Meek could see that people in our guild WANTED things to come like fixing the guild and lvlin and w/e but since Meek left. People feel like they dont know what to do so they just quit as well.

6. I also feel like people are being selfish of taking breaks from the guild but i understand totally but as more took breaks the more people left and the morale grew week.

7. I do not regret being in BR since it was a guild based on strong connection and friendships among members however im QUITE disappointed that the responsibilities were put on the Admins and not the members itself causing not only myself but most admins crazy and stressed out about this issue.

8. Basically the guild is more or less dead and that either Kimahri or Shadow_Shot will become masters.

9. Sorry for letting down any friends or fans that we had along the way.

10. Guildmates its been fun but if u wanted things to change we had to make it together as a guild not as individual. Im disappointed in some of the selfishness and such but HEY! since no one wanted to make a difference so the guild in my opinion should fall when the guild doesnt care on what happens to it.

11. Goodbye BR and i take my leave of the guild tonite.


That is the saddest thing I've ever heard.

BusouRenkin was the guild I looked up to the most, because they were strong. Not just strength-wise, but because they were bonded by their friendships, and they helped out a lot of people.

When I created my guild, I wanted us to grow to be like them. I want us all to be bonded like a family. But now... it seems their inner problems has got the best of them. :(

I wish for the best, and that the rest of you guys in BR will keep it together. I mean, you guys were right there, at the top. To see you tumble down...

Asheer
01-02-2008, 09:07 PM
Yes..., it is sad moment for Teva and a warning signal for all guilds.

Stagnation, selfishnes, constant wars... this is a recepy for guild self destruction.

Especialy Teva have bigest amount of new created guilds, but i observe something more.
People get tired being involved in "ambushed wars" and especialy now when rules of war was thrown to the trashcan.

For this day i asking question and recive no answer:

WHY RULES OF GUILD WAR WHERE THROWN IN TO TRASH?

Todays events in Elderine made me more bonded whit Moontree and i will be last who will leave because guild have for example bad days.

Angelos
01-02-2008, 09:10 PM
I won't say i feel responsible for the guild, because i know i'm not.

I had the same views as others who had left.

All i can say is.. *cry* D=
Aurevoir the old BR!

(but hey it's a new year... who knows =o )

lordalden
01-02-2008, 10:02 PM
As I said in the other thread regarding this: Do not give up hope! A saying once told to me long ago, that I hold close: "It is not a dishonor to fall from glory, but rather more honorable to rise back to it." If you give up when the fight is just beginning, then why did you fight in the first place?

Remember why you supported BusouRenkin, remember why it was great, and those still left, try to remodel it into something truly glorious, as it was meant to be, and still is meant to be. Be strong, be resolute, and "Always Remember The Courage Inside".

Best of luck, BusouRenkin guild. I surely hope you make your rise back to glory.

AngellicDiety
01-02-2008, 10:25 PM
Its sad to see BR go down in this manner, however, many other guilds are facing the same grim situation. Recently the guild I am a member to began splitting up. Internal problems, personal problems, and of course problems with this game - particularily unfixed FIGHTER SKILLS.

Having a large fighter population most of our guild is pissed off at outspark for not providing a patch that should have been released 2 days after the problems began! Many members are upset because they purchased cash shop items which basically go to waste due to the bug's and glitches. Several top members have already given up and quit fiesta because they felt they were being ripped off by outspark. No patch, no compensation...

Good luck to BR, and to all the other guilds facing the same phenomenon.

lordalden
01-02-2008, 10:36 PM
Angellic, as much as I would like to honestly feel for this situation, being a user of a Fighter as well, there are other facts to consider here.

1.) Outspark merely releases the updates, and they are trying to compensate for this by moving the process along.

2.) The Korean company, OnsOnSoft I believe is who develops the patches.

3.) There has been an introduced category in the forums regarding the status of the updates as Outspark recieves them.

Summarily, there are alternatives to fighting the hardest things you can and being unable to fight it as you would previously with the glitch in tow. Sure, it does limit your options further, but it gives you something to do in the meantime. The choice to quit based on not being able to fight at maximum potential is not a claim Outspark is liable for. Also, to continue onto this idea, the players were not ripped off. Most of the items that would hurt to have bought previous to this bugs' surfacing, could be used in such different circumstances of selective fighting.

This 'waste' of items as you say it, is because of personal lax on the end of the player, not on Outspark. They ARE working hard. I can assure you of that. How did you think Dakkon felt for the what, 2-5 days that he was the only onstaff Pure GM because of Steam leaving Outspark? How about Vanquish and Cretz trying to answer these questions as much as they are allowed to on the forums with 5 new threads being made over it at a time during the period? This is a selfish outcry, and while I sympathize, I cannot say it is correct to do this on the grounds of it being a complaint over the players' choice, and being outside of Outspark's hands.

IroguroMeek
01-03-2008, 12:27 AM
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I apologize for disappointing many of you. I can't say much other than it just got way too out of hand. Since the level cap raise people just started doing very selfish stuff and forgetting the main reason of our guild. I tried really really hard and it wasn't like i just ran away at first sight of the issue lol...but I have to say as much fun as all had together as a guild, I was very shocked to see us turn into what I call a "level-hungry" guild.

The guild wasnt the only reason I Quit the game, I mean 50% of it was due to it but the other 50% is due to real life stuff like school and work, so once spring semester starts up I would have quit anyways, just that the guild issues made the quit sooner than I thought lol...anyways again I apoligize to everyone and I just want to thank all of the BR members past and present for an awesome experience, you guys were the reason this game was so fun!

My advice to other guilds who has or will have the same goal as we did is that it's always easy to make a guild that's friendly and helpful..but maintaining it is the hard part. So work hard everyone, enjoy the game, and good luck to you all in-game and in real life!

JerichoCrost
01-03-2008, 01:00 AM
... forgive me for it has come to this.

I knew that I was the last strand of hair holding the guild together. It was a pleasure to have played this game and meet many great people. The guild wasn't the reason I left, I left because I couldn't suck anything else out of this game. It was good while it lasted. Thanks for all the friends, memories, and events! It was an amazing experience.

I'll miss you guys all and I hope that you guys will remember me as well. Great honor it was to be the leader of BR.

Thanks again for the great time here at Outspark, and I too thank the GM's for making it fun. Ciao.

The fall of Busou Renkin... it was a good one.

msn: hbroke@hotmail.com

lordalden
01-03-2008, 01:02 AM
Will you at least post your plans for passing leadership on? I would surely like to see BR continue on, if only under another leader, for as long as it can.

platina
01-03-2008, 01:15 AM
Sad to hear this.



And a bit out of topic, that "lvl hungry" rush IMO, isnt just for teh cap release or that lvl 79 event, etc , is mainly for the uneven upgrades between jobs. Till now i noticed this from BR, but ive been hearing often shouts of enchanters ( lvl 60+ mages ) only asking for others enchanters into party.

This is an overall warning, dunno what others going to do, but in ours, if i sense that hungry lvl issue, i wont hesitate on getting them into judgment and prolly even banning ( don't care if enchanter or not)

IroguroMeek
01-03-2008, 01:20 AM
Will you at least post your plans for passing leadership on? I would surely like to see BR continue on, if only under another leader, for as long as it can.

Ughhh, I believe they were going to give Shadow_Shot Master and Kimahri (as well as the other active members Admin). Not sure yet, but Shadow_Shot is the most active player atm and wants to rebuild BR.

chelekat
01-03-2008, 01:27 AM
awww meek and jeri...it was great getting to know you guys, really. going to miss seeing you around fiesta, tho in all honesty spring semester is probably going to bring me to quit as well, so i guess this thing was inevitable. so see you around msn at least (and that's an order, not a suggestion).

MrSlashy
01-03-2008, 01:31 AM
NOOOO! TREE HUMPER MEEK IS QUITTING. ;__;

And i thought i can be good friends with you and Jericho since i recently know you guys. >.< D:

Wishing good luck to Shadow_Shot to rebuild the guild. I want to see it alive again.

Jhanniss
01-03-2008, 02:16 AM
Booo! Why do friends always leave me! So you have some problems in the guild! You know I'd come to help if I'd have been told about it!

:(


Don't leave!

ArkBaird
01-03-2008, 02:58 AM
keep the guild up i know u all can pull it off. if u kill this guild am gonner go baby awall style :P !!

KireiYosei
01-03-2008, 09:47 AM
;~; Seems like a lot of guilds are falling apart lately.

I blame the lack of new stuff in Fiesta! Lol. Well, good bye Meek and Jericho!! We'll miss you guys.

Jhanniss
01-03-2008, 10:16 AM
I think once PVP arenas are re-introduced, there will be more activity in that area of things and maybe less focus on the leveling aspect. Who knows.

Still Meek and Jericho, you meanies are suppose to be able to talk to me when you get into situations like this. :mad:

Takako
01-05-2008, 08:07 AM
Oh my god (Sorry my lord for using your name [Teehee]), I hope BR will get better soon. I bet if i was in the guild and meek left I would of left too.

Saluyac
01-05-2008, 08:15 AM
just skimmed through the posts, BR can come back, but its gonna be different, most likely all new members, ZB is doing the same and growing. I keep seeing stuff that points to the fact that they're quitting, i wish you both the best if so.

AriesMehjor
01-05-2008, 03:05 PM
As I said in the other thread regarding this: Do not give up hope! A saying once told to me long ago, that I hold close: "It is not a dishonor to fall from glory, but rather more honorable to rise back to it." If you give up when the fight is just beginning, then why did you fight in the first place?

Remember why you supported BusouRenkin, remember why it was great, and those still left, try to remodel it into something truly glorious, as it was meant to be, and still is meant to be. Be strong, be resolute, and "Always Remember The Courage Inside".

Best of luck, BusouRenkin guild. I surely hope you make your rise back to glory.


Sigh...if only everyone had the same Medievil warriors spirit.

XpierulesX
01-05-2008, 03:53 PM
I saw Chewie the other day, he said why he quit but I forgot.. :\

krazyboi
01-05-2008, 08:10 PM
omg T_T dont do it! cmon guys u used to b 1 of the best D: man thats sad ot hear though.... bye jericho and meek..... and every1 else.......

masterk179
01-08-2008, 06:32 PM
Wow O_O

I'm surprised how much people actually talk about Busourenkin.

WELLLLL PEOPLE. Here's how it went down.

We were down and now we're back up. So basicallyyyyy....

BUSOU'S BACK BISHESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

We'll release more info as time progresses but for now this is what we'll say:

a. Some that have left have come back to aid us
b. We have a very strong admin and bond now with the current members and our potentials
c. We WILL be accepting memberships into BusouRenkin after a thorough background check and interview of the potential recruit. And be warned there ARE certain qualities we look for and these count for more than a level of a person.
d. Don't trust any forums or posts concerning BusouRenkin EXCEPT for the NEW OFFICIAL BUSOURENKIN FORUM THAT WILL BE HELD SECRET AND WILL BE VIEWABLE BY ALL HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF JANUARY.
e. Annie is 82973490723056924656238974823790479237 times more sexy than the sexiest person in the world ;]

THr3eS01di3Rs
01-08-2008, 06:37 PM
Ive wanted to be in BR since open beta and thats when it first came into the world obviously, im a lv 46 archer and Ive never thought I could measure up enough to be in BR.
Its a shame that a guild that has been in fiesta since the begining is starting to lose its morals.

I hope you guys will bounce back, there is leterialy no one 20+ that dosnt know who you are. Good luck.

skippahx781
01-08-2008, 06:58 PM
don't worrie BR will be back up~~ iam 100% sure..

Triumph
01-08-2008, 07:04 PM
We're working on it.

And Annie is a spammer.

masterk179
01-08-2008, 07:09 PM
dammit tri im not a spammer -______-"

and stop spamming >:O

Triumph
01-08-2008, 07:11 PM
As admin of BusouRenkin, it's my job to make sure people are informed about the current status and stability of our guild. Therefore, that isn't spam.

However, Annie, you are running around screaming "bish." That is spam.

xD

masterk179
01-08-2008, 07:23 PM
-________-"

*kicks tri's crotch and drives away quickly* =P

Triumph
01-08-2008, 07:25 PM
-________-"

*kicks tri's crotch and drives away quickly* =P

You can drive?

masterk179
01-08-2008, 07:25 PM
yessssss...

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Triumph
01-08-2008, 07:27 PM
You're not old enough though.

skippahx781
01-08-2008, 07:36 PM
lmao in every topic.. i c annie or triumph.. spaming cough*