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Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 01:18 AM
If you have any other questions, feel free to post them.

Servers are down for an hour, I'm bored and feel like compling the contents of a few threads into one :). Hope it helps some begginers out without having to look around too much.

I'm a Xenian, should I be putting points into INT?

No, as a Xenian INT will be 100% worthless to you, put all your points into POW and when you become an Acolyte you will be able to re-assign these points.

I want to focus damage before healing, how can I do that?

First you should reconsider being an Acolyte, we are supportive characters who put damage aside for healing, buffs, and other useful spells. If you still want to be one, you'll have to wait till level 45 before doing any real damage.

At level 45 you can change your class to a deciple (only acolytes can), which is like a warrior with self support through heals and personal buffs.

Where should I train?

Look around for a map where monster's names are written in white or slightly blue. This will be good for you to solo at. If you don't mind/prefer to train in a party, depending on how good the party is, you should be able to go to monsters with dark red names.

How should my stats be?

That's really up to you, first and foremost you need to focus INT. This will give you a stronger Illusion Quake and a stronger heal. If you want to add a few points into WIS for some extra MP, that's ok too but I don't reccommend you put any additional points into this. MEN is a good supportive stat for acolytes too, because it increases the speed of your spells. You won't notice much of a difference from MEN till you have around 12 points into it though.

No matter how many points you put into POW, your melee damage is going to be horrible. The only time you should increase POW is the meet the level requirement to equip the next cane.

Here are a few example builds:
3 INT/1 MEN
Full INT
3 INT/1 WIS (Not reccomended)

I've made a mistake with my stats, how do I reset them?

Currently the only way to reset your stat points is to go through a class change, expect some way to be able to do this from the cash shop when it comes out though.

Which is better, Acolyte/Cleric or Diciple?

That's apples and oranges. Clerics are the undisputed best support players in the game, but to play them you have to sacrifice a lot of damage capabilities. Diciples are very well rounded, making them great for soloing and a good choice for any party. You have to decide if you want the power to save lifes, or the power to take them.

All that I can remember right now, I'll add more to this soon.

Medalink
01-04-2008, 08:46 AM
Where should I train?

Look around for a map where monster's names are written in white or slightly blue. This will be good for you to solo at. If you don't mind/prefer to train in a party, depending on how good the party is, you should be able to go to monsters with dark red names.


I would like to add that you can fight mobs with redish names, since your Illusion Quake slows them down, you can cast 2-3 times, run back a few steps, repeat. You will need mana pots since you have to cast it alot to kill them. However it is doable.

Medalink

Claiomh.Solais
01-04-2008, 11:04 AM
I want to focus damage before healing, how can I do that?

First you should reconsider being an Acolyte, we are supportive characters who put damage aside for healing, buffs, and other useful spells. If you still want to be one, you'll have to wait till level 45 before doing any real damage.



You should add to this that while our damage output will always be lower than that of any other class, since both our damage and heal depend on int, and we will be pumping int for the most part, in the end our damage will always stay decent enough to be able to solo easily even till lvl 35~40 if you don’t want to party.


At level 45 you can change your class to a deciple (only acolytes can), which is like a warrior with self support.


That's pretty much wrong, all classes have one form or another of auto buffs (sharp weapon, enhance, accuracy, falcon eyes, etc.) and the disciple ones (they add some attack and defense) are not much different.

In the end, a disciple is a warrior who can heal himself and even others, but since our heal works over time, it’s used in a much different way than the acos one and it also heals less, so there’s no way for us to actually take the space of an aco as the healer of a party. Think of a disciple as a squire with less damage and skills but the ability to heal himself.

I would like to add that you can fight mobs with redish names, since your Illusion Quake slows them down, you can cast 2-3 times, run back a few steps, repeat. You will need mana pots since you have to cast it alot to kill them. However it is doable.

Medalink

Training on weaker mobs would still be a faster way of training. Overall, you can kill two weaker mobs in the same time as one stronger one, but the stronger one only would give you like 50% more than one weaker mob. Still, in the end is up to the player.

Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Barkingllama

At level 45 you can change your class to a deciple (only acolytes can), which is like a warrior with self support.

That's pretty much wrong, all classes have one form or another of auto buffs (sharp weapon, enhance, accuracy, falcon eyes, etc.) and the disciple ones (they add some attack and defense) are not much different.

In the end, a disciple is a warrior who can heal himself and even others, but since our heal works over time, it’s used in a much different way than the acos one and it also heals less, so there’s no way for us to actually take the space of an aco as the healer of a party. Think of a disciple as a squire with less damage and skills but the ability to heal himself.

The ability to heal themselves....also known as support.

You just misunderstood the wording.

And no, I'm not going to add to put red monsters for training, if an aco decides to do that it's their choice, but for fastest results (which I'm sure most people want...) they should stick to white monsters.

You should add to this that while our damage output will always be lower than that of any other class, since both our damage and heal depend on int, and we will be pumping int for the most part, in the end our damage will always stay decent enough to be able to solo easily even till lvl 35~40 if you don’t want to party.

Would make it a little redudant, don't you think? I already have something about focusing INT, and about soloing...

Claiomh.Solais
01-04-2008, 07:18 PM
The ability to heal themselves....also known as support.

You just misunderstood the wording.

And no, I'm not going to add to put red monsters for training, if an aco decides to do that it's their choice, but for fastest results (which I'm sure most people want...) they should stick to white monsters.



When you say self support, all you actually mean is heal, as any other class has skills that improve their stats or abilities in the same way that the disciple ones do. The problem is, that’s not the idea any newbie who reads this would get.

Sure, in every MMORPG the basic supporting is indeed healing, but providing other means of buffs for the party or antibuffs to the mobs in order to help is pretty much also quite important for supportive classes and even more, it’s the idea that most people will get if you tell them about support. Which is why you need to clarify some things, the faq is supposed to help people understand the basics, not leave them more confused.

Also, as for support, have you ever been in a party with a templar doing the healing? It sucks and hard. Sure, we can heal, but if you’re against powerful mobs (which you should on a party), then our healing will not be enough to survive which is why in a party our primary action is to attack and even tank mobs (after all, there’s no way to increase the amount we heal, so our builds are primary based around pow and any other melee related stat), and just in case of serious mob problems actually pull back and help the aco or acos in the process of healing the party.

Finally, I didn’t say anything about the training on red mobs, so I don’t see the point on that.

Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 07:26 PM
The red mobs was a responce to another person's reply.

And as an acolyte, no i've never been in a party where the templar was the healer, but I never made a claim that they make good healers either.

And when I say self support, I mean their heals in ADDITION to the buffs, which every class has variations of. If it said just self heals to someone who hasen't played the game before, it would leave them to believe they lost any ability to buff, which isn't true.

Claiomh.Solais
01-04-2008, 08:07 PM
And when I say self support, I mean their heals in ADDITION to the buffs, which every class has variations of. If it said just self heals to someone who hasen't played the game before, it would leave them to believe they lost any ability to buff, which isn't true.

But then again, they don't buff, they just heal. The reason I said to not consider the autobuffs as real buffs was because pretty much every class has them, so they don’t serve as point of comparison, while the heal is the only thing that actually makes them different to other classes as far as char interaction goes. Without that heal, they’re just a squire with less skills. But of course, we could drag on a stupid discussion like this forever, it’s your faq so go ahead and leave it like that, and hopefully any newbie that reads it will keep reading and get things completely clear with all our later posts.

Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 08:15 PM
No way to completely spell it out.

Argh though, this warrior was running from a mob around six so I heal him, buff him, and start killing off a few, and he gets pissed -.-

Claiomh.Solais
01-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Argh though, this warrior was running from a mob around six so I heal him, buff him, and start killing off a few, and he gets pissed -.-

Nothing new under the sun xD

Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 08:21 PM
Yeah, but still frusterating...

If only debuff could work out of pvp or something.

Barkingllama
01-04-2008, 11:42 PM
At level 45 you can change your class to a deciple (only acolytes can), which is like a warrior with self support through a weaker heal and personal buffs.



Seem clearer to you?

Claiomh.Solais
01-05-2008, 07:12 AM
Sure, seems clear enough :D

Kaida_Yuuna
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
I have a question, I've looked for the answer in this forum but if it's there I haven't found it. Since this was a faq thread I thought I'd ask it here. So . . .

I'm a level 31 Acolyte aiming to be a Cleric and I was curious if anyone knew the stat requirements? If not what would be the best stats to raise?

Thank you for your time (and sorry if this has been asked before). ^-^

Claiomh.Solais
01-05-2008, 06:58 PM
I have a question, I've looked for the answer in this forum but if it's there I haven't found it. Since this was a faq thread I thought I'd ask it here. So . . .

I'm a level 31 Acolyte aiming to be a Cleric and I was curious if anyone knew the stat requirements? If not what would be the best stats to raise?

Thank you for your time (and sorry if this has been asked before). ^-^

Well, I’m not sure if that particular question has been answered, but certainly a lot of related ones already have, so my answer should be that you didn’t really look hard enough. But then again, I’m on a good mood today, so I may as well answer.

Once you hit a class change you get a stat reset, so you shouldn’t worry about your cleric stats till you actually hit the cleric class, and even then they’re pretty much the same as the ones for an aco. As for aco builds, there’re a damn lot of guides floating around already, but I’ll tell you that you should mainly focus on int till you heal around 120+ HP with it, then raise men till around 12 of it and then keep pumping int and if you feel your heal is high enough for wherever you’re training, then more men can’t really hurt. Wis is not recommended, as any high lvl party will be spamming pots anyway, therefore the size of your mana poll is irrelevant, though a few points on lower lvls wouldn’t hurt (not more than 3 or 4 extra points over what you already get by becoming aco). As for sta, if you already have a high enough heal and cast that you consider to be good, then you can pump a bit of it, as it means higher survivability if you get mobbed, and anyway any aco/cleric will probably need some of it sooner or later. Finally, pow should only be for the lvls you get a new staff (that therefore requires one more lvl on pow) and obviously, agi is of no use for an aco/cleric.

Kaida_Yuuna
01-05-2008, 07:01 PM
So you do get to reset stats? Thanks for answering my question.