Guild war shroom killing

[Visero]

It has been posted ingame that mushroom killing while in the middle of a guild war is in bad taste and that action would be taken on a guild that participates in such behavior. In a recent guild war i was a victim of said behavior, being killed while I was vending. (so was another member by the same individual but i do not have the screenshot to back up that claim only my own)

What bothered me the most about this situation was that it was essentially a war for fun, because our guild has no level 60+ active members other than myself and the guild we warred with were for the most part well above 60.
So they went into this knowing the chances of success were pretty much nill.
So why participate in such behavior? Especially when the odds were clearly in their favor. >.<

I am attaching a picture to show proof of what it is I am talking about because after all the proof is in the pudding. Understand that I do not want the guild or the guild member in the screen shot to be looked at negatively. After presenting it to one of the guild admins he apologized to me on her behalf.

My questions are, shouldn't the more established/powerful guilds be setting the example for others to follow rather than participating in these actions?

Does your guild apply the guidelines of not shroom killing?

Does anyone else still see this behavior going on even though it has been addressed in game and we were all told about the repercussions?

[Jhanniss]

It has been posted ingame that mushroom killing while in the middle of a guild war is in bad taste and that action would be taken on a guild that participates in such behavior. In a recent guild war i was a victim of said behavior, being killed while I was vending. (so was another member by the same individual but i do not have the screenshot to back up that claim only my own)

What bothered me the most about this situation was that it was essentially a war for fun, because our guild has no level 60+ active members other than myself and the guild we warred with were for the most part well above 60.
So they went into this knowing the chances of success were pretty much nill.
So why participate in such behavior? Especially when the odds were clearly in their favor. >.<

I am attaching a picture to show proof of what it is I am talking about because after all the proof is in the pudding. Understand that I do not want the guild or the guild member in the screen shot to be looked at negatively. After presenting it to one of the guild admins he apologized to me on her behalf.

My questions are, shouldn't the more established/powerful guilds be setting the example for others to follow rather than participating in these actions?

Does your guild apply the guidelines of not shroom killing?

Does anyone else still see this behavior going on even though it has been addressed in game and we were all told about the repercussions?


I'll be first to admit I still do it. There are some guilds that rate that low on my list of respect. I am making a judgement on yours, but saying how I view it. If it were a friendly GW (pre-announced attack) on us I would make sure my guildies behaved and take a thrashing to the ones who break it.

However if warred outright or us warring another outright, then I make on a case by case basis.

The other day we had a guy named "thechaz" running around spamming the public chat channel. After repeated requests to stop, I started a guild war with them.

GW started and thechaz had left town. So I wandered around and killed the merchant and shroomed houses and then left to go look for where the offender went. I found him in MT hunting. I killed him. Not once but twice out there. Why? Because he was the reason the war started and I made it clear to the other people around why he was killed in the field. No other members from his guild were killed in the field and the ones in town were at the mercy of whatever guild mate decided to take shots at them.

If it was a friendly GW, my guildies are told to behave and obey the unwritten rules until someone from the other side violates it, then it becomes no holds barred.

I'm sorry you were an unfortunately casualty in your war, just as the person I killed in shroom mode wasn't anything other than a fellow guildie of the person I was after. I don't know what may have lead to such actions beyond each guilds involvement.

Because of these actions though, this is ultimately why I have a non-guilded alt for selling stuff. It saves me from waking up to find myself at the spawn point glitched in seller mode. ~.~

[dragonslayer26]

Hey Jhanniss,
It was preplaned and I was told 6-7 of them would particapate. Then about 12-13 of them came outnumbering us very much. We had 8 I think. It was sopossed to be a friendly war and it was until hyoree came. Not only was Vise killed in vendor, I was killed resting,not ready, and spawn killed by the her over and over. Everyone in Inner_Circle is great F O R T H E M O S T P A R T. But when it becomes an outnumbered, brutal massacre after being planned as a have fun war, thats not right!! :)

[KireiYosei]

I'd figure hyoree would be above that, but I guess not o.O Yeah.. thats really immature. Its really hard for my guild to war, because we are small, but high leveled. And a lot of high leveled guilds are big.
I came up with a good idea that Outspark should suggest to the makers in Korea. I think I will post it in the feedback thread.

[ken10]

Hey Jhanniss,
It was preplaned and I was told 6-7 of them would particapate. Then about 12-13 of them came outnumbering us very much. We had 8 I think. It was sopossed to be a friendly war and it was until hyoree came. Not only was Vise killed in vendor, I was killed resting,not ready, and spawn killed by the her over and over. Everyone in Inner_Circle is great F O R T H E M O S T P A R T. But when it becomes an outnumbered, brutal massacre after being planned as a have fun war, thats not right!! :)

hi Cuth ^^
how are u?

btw,u said : "I was killed resting,not ready, and spawn killed by the her over and over."

uhmm,my advice is : "Prepare urself outside the arena before join the war again after got killed" :)
and also, u said "12-13 of them came",SORRY,u wrong bro'
only 10...:)

and also...one of ur member asked me 1vs1,but the reality 4vs1..
[ask Gilly for more information about "this guy"] ^^

just it...no more :)
Tyvm for ur attention :)




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[Gravvi]

Well the shroom killing can be used as a trap XD. MY cleric has done it before a war get in my shroom when they attack i pop out and kill them. XD. BUt yes i frown on spawn killing and shroom killing depending on circumstances. I will kill people just rest but not vending. Most venders are afk and shouldn't be killed. If they are in a shroom they should be around.

[KireiYosei]

Yeah but he had a full shop set up. And he probably didn't get out of his shroom once attacked.

[_Chantelle_]

A long time ago two guilds decided to war us when I was the only person online, and I was in afk in a shop. They were Ace and Dragons_of_Earth, I believe (it was a REALLY long time ago). I was killed, and then spawn killed over and over again by both guilds until I came to the computer and left. x.x
I don't think it's completely ethical, but people will do whatever it takes to get what they want sometimes - even if it is a petty message saying they won a war.

[Donutz]

I thought that it was outlined by steam awhile ago that spawn killing and killing people in shops, not sure about resting, was considered abuse of guild wars and resulted in either banning or having the guild disbanded.

[AngellicDiety]

I thought that it was outlined by steam awhile ago that spawn killing and killing people in shops, not sure about resting, was considered abuse of guild wars and resulted in either banning or having the guild disbanded.

Totally mistaken I'm afraid.

1) Shroom Killing
2) Vendor Killing
3) Spawn Killing

Are all "bad taste" as far as guild wars are concerned, but they are not bannable offenses.



The only bannable offense is:

Guild warring to prevent people from grinding in a particular place, or fighting a particular monster.


This applies to guild warring "out of town", and in dungeons.

If a guild wants to spawn **** you, mushroom kill you, or vendor kill you its all within their rights to do so. It's just bad character.

It appears steams words have been misconstrued due to his absense.

Hyoree is a nice person, she wouldn't vendor kill unless there was a good reason. I think we should hear the other side of the story before concluding things.

[Asheer]

I'll be first to admit I still do it. There are some guilds that rate that low on my list of respect. I am making a judgement on yours, but saying how I view it. If it were a friendly GW (pre-announced attack) on us I would make sure my guildies behaved and take a thrashing to the ones who break it.

However if warred outright or us warring another outright, then I make on a case by case basis.

The other day we had a guy named "thechaz" running around spamming the public chat channel. After repeated requests to stop, I started a guild war with them.

GW started and thechaz had left town. So I wandered around and killed the merchant and shroomed houses and then left to go look for where the offender went. I found him in MT hunting. I killed him. Not once but twice out there. Why? Because he was the reason the war started and I made it clear to the other people around why he was killed in the field. No other members from his guild were killed in the field and the ones in town were at the mercy of whatever guild mate decided to take shots at them.

If it was a friendly GW, my guildies are told to behave and obey the unwritten rules until someone from the other side violates it, then it becomes no holds barred.

I'm sorry you were an unfortunately casualty in your war, just as the person I killed in shroom mode wasn't anything other than a fellow guildie of the person I was after. I don't know what may have lead to such actions beyond each guilds involvement.

Because of these actions though, this is ultimately why I have a non-guilded alt for selling stuff. It saves me from waking up to find myself at the spawn point glitched in seller mode. ~.~


Hello Jhanniss

What you done in case shroom kill was wrong hovewer your ability to confess that such facts have taken place make you redeem in my eyes :).

Not all who conduct such act durring Guild War are able to admit this and thats why you are rare on this field:)

By the way did anyone notice growing up nmbers of posts about this case?...

[hyorre]

Sorry to have killed .
But when i see war and asked for assistance i come from grinding
to kill the REDS , as you know im a mage
and i tab and shoot when i see many targets. if i had the time to carefully see
and pick i'd prob be dead and waste more scrolls ask for new buff etc...

Also do not mention spawn killing cuz 3-4 attacked me near spawn and
few of my skills is to aoe and tab kill.
Also talk about overpower? I stop attacking they say hi and try to gang on me, do i just sit and let them kill since im high lvl and it's not fair?
I do not go around looking for vending ppl to kill. If you had the time to take screenshot that means not really vending just not participating.
I don't know who's in guild and ask each one by one are u participating?
Also i apologized and my guild member have said u are still online and told me to whisper u after u were killed and then i stopped.
Again in a war i tab kill and i don't waste my scrolls to chat and wait.
In a real war do u chat? ask for persmission?

No hard feelings~

hyoree

[Patchouli]

"Bad taste" imo was what Steam himself considered bad taste and does not necessarily apply to anyone else or their standard of bad taste.

I shroom whenever I get stunned. I can't do anything else for 8 seconds anyway so I might as well get a tick of regen, so I have absolutely no problem with "shroom killing" under any conditions.

"Vendor killing", if someone randomly declares on me without giving a reason, aka: an unscheduled war, I view it as being entirely hostile, and I will usually kick out any afk vendors in guild and send them an invite which they can take later so their shop remains untouched. I have no problem with people in guild blasting their vendors in that case since we have no idea about their intent, and they called the war, so they should prepare properly for it.

[ScoobyDoo]

I am same with hyoree and patchouli opinion about this thread :)
dont want to get kill or war ?
dont join the guild, the best solution, no more headache ^^

kill everything with a red color xDDDDDDDDDDDD
hyoree The War Cannon ^-^

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7229/coverqj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Gravvi]

OMG hyoree i do that and i am a cleric in wars LOL

[Deveous01]

hi Cuth ^^
how are u?

btw,u said : "I was killed resting,not ready, and spawn killed by the her over and over."

uhmm,my advice is : "Prepare urself outside the arena before join the war again after got killed" :)
and also, u said "12-13 of them came",SORRY,u wrong bro'
only 10...:)

and also...one of ur member asked me 1vs1,but the reality 4vs1..
[ask Gilly for more information about "this guy"] ^^

just it...no more :)
Tyvm for ur attention :)




Lord_of_War
Warrior Lv.6x
Inner_Circle's Admin
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|Umm ya right like there was suppose to be 10 of u when we warred- more like 15- Inner Circle = Guild With 0 Standards

[Visero]

I do not go around looking for vending ppl to kill. If you had the time to take screenshot that means not really vending just not participating.

Hyoree you did apologize to me today for your actions and I did accept, however just because I happened to be in my seat when I saw you shroom killing me and had enough sense to take the screenshot as you were passing me by does not imply that I wasn't really vending. I had my store up long before the war started and was in essence vending.

Also I separated myself from other vendors so my shroom was pretty much on its own however I will give you the benefit of the doubt that somehow you didn't see it and you only "saw red".

Scooby I couldn't disagree with your solution more. Especially since all it takes is a little good judgment and common courtesy and your comment conveys that you lack both. Again this was a friendly war and of course even if it weren't such actions still should not be taken.

As i said before I accepted her apology and will drop this for now, I just hope this provides some with food for thought and possibly to those who practice bad behavior to maybe strive to behave in a more honorable way.

[ken10]

|Umm ya right like there was suppose to be 10 of u when we warred- more like 15- Inner Circle = Guild With 0 Standards

uhmm....With "0" standards??? ur guild = "-10" standards LOL
btw Deveous,u too much talking...no action,talk only o.0
and u always dare with "1vs1" in GW?? borring LMAO!
uhmm,my advice is : "Dont declare a GW,but declare PW"
u know "PW"??
PW = People War!!!

so??
understand?


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