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HyperSonicPt
01-05-2008, 01:06 PM
Since theres no player report section, ill report here until they make one :

well, yesterday i heard people complaining about botters and stuff and im tired of them too so i decided to make some bot report service, i asked in shout if anyone had seen any bots nearby and they said G5 so i went there to check myself.
I Found out 2 of them, Minosa and Ninow, both clerics lvl 30+(could see it by the clothing)
My strategy is this : i say hi there with the name of the char, like that he/she will know that im talking to her/him, then i ask if he/she is a bot and that if he/she doesnt asnwer me i would report for botting, if still he/she dont asnwer, i say "ok, reporting you for botting" and then i take the print with his name on it and report.

Hope that the GM's ban them and all relative IP account, like that their non-botter account(for certain almost all botters has one in case his bot get caught) will be banned and theyll learn not to bot anymore, or ban the ip related account + ip blocked.

heres the prints :

Minosa
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2987/minosabotterwi0.jpg

Nimow
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3446/nimowbottertd9.jpg



Hope that the GMs ban them and any questions our doubts you have please contact me or in game on in the forums, ill be making some reports of botters once in a while and ill ask for people of the map to reply to this topic as proof that these players were botting.

Have a nice Day

Sincerly,
HyperSonicPt, Honorable HighCleric

lordalden
01-05-2008, 01:09 PM
There's no official section because usually these kind of things will end up in flame wars. Almost all publicly posted screenshots of questionable action in game lead to this. However, in lieu of this, it's far better to send these in a PM to either GM_Dakkon or GM_SnakeEyes. They read and respond to their mails in the order they were recieved, and many times may act on a bot report or the like without mention of it.

HyperSonicPt
01-05-2008, 01:32 PM
true but for example i never saw a GM online, nly saw a CM and even so he wasnt online for much time, there should be a topic not to report only botters but normal players has well, and in case its harrasement or something or a bad report, the player can protect himself while by pming a GM in the forums he cant, a player can take a print from the other doing harrasement but what if he did harrasement first just to provoke the other to do so? the other would be banned and the one who provoked would be playing freely, thats not right.

Well since i made this report and have some others to make, wich GM should i PM here in the forums? and hope that he sees this topic :)

HyperSonicPt
01-05-2008, 01:56 PM
well till i know where to report them..... sorry for this but im only a 2 week old player and ive seen enough bugs and stuff that can make players give up too easily of this game, since the bugs got reported already only left is the bots, heres another one, moonlight tomb, found out near the other 2 i reported, Minosa and Ninow.

This one is Dkps, ive seen her yesterday but now i got tired of her and i couldnt kill her with a mob of monsters, so heres the print, made the same thing has the other 2 reports, asked her if she was a botter and that i was going to report her if she dont asnwer and she didnt so i said that i was reportign and still she didnt asnwer, heres the print:

Dkps
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4162/dkpsbottervw2.jpg

Ban her too please, and ide love to know where to report bots since the forums isnt the good place and PMing in game i never know when a GM is online so the Forums is the best way, ban her and all ip related accounts please

thanks for the attention
Sincerly,
HyperSonicPt

briaanc20
01-05-2008, 02:08 PM
but also theres many reason why they didnt talk back. mayb they didnt understand english u never noe...but its good that u care

HyperSonicPt
01-05-2008, 02:17 PM
a normal player isnt always ksing people and i think that anyone except new players knows what a bot is, and new players use to ask for help or at last say hi, if the player dont understand english how can he play? >_> install, register etc? even someone who dont understands, if someone calls her name that person says at last " ? " or trys to say that he/she doesnt understand english :s

Besides theres people who saw those chars ksing and atacking monsters without resting for hours and hours, a normal player would go to the bathroom or rest instead of wasting a lots of potions

Trebori
01-05-2008, 02:20 PM
This is a older post, but it explains what to do. Since GM Steam is no longer with us send the PM ( on the forums, not in game ) to either GM Dakkon or GM SnakeEyes.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22458

Thanks! :)

HyperSonicPt
01-05-2008, 02:50 PM
1) At least two screenshots of the botting/hacking players that SHOW what they are doing very clearly. These screenshots need to be at least 800x600 in resolution size so the actions and names can be seen clearly. You can take screenshots by using the Print Screen button on your keyboard.

2) Type out the names of the bots/hackers. Sometimes names overlap and we cannot see all the bots/hackers you are referring to.

3) Briefly summarize their actions that make you believe they are a bot/hacker.


well since the reports were made im gonna take 1 more print of each bot, luckly theyre still in the same spot and next report ill pm one of those GM's and ask them to check this topic out, wont be a pain just to see a little topic showing 3 botters, well goign to print screen each of them again so that they believe theyre botters:

Minosa:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6991/minosabotter2xo7.jpg

Nimow:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5490/nimowbotter2kr7.jpg
(notice that a guy named moon something said "stupid bot")
Dkps:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5798/dkpsbotter2hn5.jpg


well hope that the GM's at last see this topic and ban them and all related accounts, next reports i make will be by pming one of those 2 Gms, thank you very much and have a nice day :D

HyperSonicPt
01-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Since the X-trap cant prevent botter from boting, at last damn those 3 damn bots i reported and all other reported bots for gods sake, the X-Trap should block not only those spams but also bots, but those botters still bot and stuff and the damn program gives me more lag than usual and gives a buch of problems to some players, since the X-Trap cant prevent botters, only thing it does is block spammming so theres no reason to have it, just take it out of the game >_>

Kuroske
01-09-2008, 10:56 AM
I vote this topic should be stickied =D

GM_SnakeEyes
01-09-2008, 11:01 AM
Please PM your bot reports to me, GM SnakeEyes. Also for future reference, this section is for bug reporting only.


Thanks,

GM SnakeEyes

TenshiShukuya
01-09-2008, 11:03 AM
here's the problem with this.. Just because they don't respond doesn't make them a bot or a botter.

I don't talk to people when I'm out soloing.. Usually I have my chats off, and don't see someone talking to me, or when they do rarely have time to reply due to not wanting to die while I'm grinding... So not talking doesn't work for proof of bots

Add to that the fact that someone could very well be trying to attain a silent or quiet title which requires you not to talk for 24hrs-5 days straight... and it's just not fair to assume they are bots because of such things.

That's my only issue with the method you used.

HyperSonicPt
01-09-2008, 12:38 PM
well that doesnt mean that they can be ksing freely specialy when someone says that he will report if the person dont asnwer or if she doesnt stop ksing, i doubt that someone would risk to lose to be jailed just because of mot saying any word at all, a normal player would asner to report treats no matter what, besides sicne print screens showing the botter atacking arent enough to report them, how are we supposed to report since a GM isnt contantly online??
this was the way i found to bust a botter, specialy when those 3 i reported were atacking every near monster and ksing people, and thats what normal bots do, that chat is a way to they dotn have excuses, most botters that get banned comes to the forum and defend theirselfs, with that chat i made with the botter, if any of them come defend themselfs just to dont get banned, they wont have a chance >_> if he says something like "i didnt asnwered cause i didnt feel like" then my asnwer is that he ksed me a buch of times so he stills get to jail for a couple of hours >_> thats why i thinked whrn i "invented" this way of reporting >_>

if anyone knows a better way just tell me >_>, prints of the person atacking monsters isnt enough so i dont know anyother way to report them and im sick of them already :S

by the way Gm SnakeEyes, im a almost 3 week old player here so i dodnt know where to report those kind of stuff sicne theres no "player report" or "bot report" section, sorry about making the topic here but dindt know where to report, now i know and next reports i do will be sent to you by PM in the forum.

HyperSonicPt
01-10-2008, 08:28 AM
since when bots change name? cause that bot named Nimow changed his name to Nimaw, has the same hair style, equips, its in the same spot with his second botter Minosa and of course, bottign again and 4 days isnt enough to make a new one so fast, and besides... WHY THOSE BOTTERS DIDNT GET BANNED YET SPECIALY WHEN A GM ALREADY HAVE SEEN THE TOPIC?? T_T people are tired of bots and if the ones we give work to report doesnt get banned at last. the game wont have normal players in some time or something >_> im tired of them, no one gives good ideias for a anti bot plan, or the company cant hire a anti bot gm, and now we report and theyre still free? and even so they hack by teleporting once in a while? thats so ****ing unfair!!!