Here to complain about guild member limit.

[Utakata]

Hi. I have recently started the process of taking people off my guild roster and putting them on our waiting list instead. Why?


<span class="postbody">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/EternalPeanut/GuildProblem.jpg</span>


<span class="postbody">I think the cap seriously needs to be raised. I don't mind having a smaller guild but we have a lot of really nice members that are being forced to go on a waiting list. Can we at least get 50?</span>

[Keenan]

yeh thats what i was*telling you in the last thread we talked in sorry man...*

[booyah8876]

Oh... well then I guess that 30 people in the guild I am in isn't that bad, then. =P We thought we were gonna be pwned by mobs from the other guilds =D And only 300 silver? I checked in the game whilst in CB1, and it said 500s Go look yo. 8)

[biffenbob]

It's a new rule

[4swordlink]

That makes me really angery i guess

[Keenan]

tell you the truth i kinda new it was gonna end up like this.


that way ppl gotta have some skill when there makeing the guild.


5 archers


10 fighters


10 mages


and 10 clerics


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think about it a guild of all mages or w/e*CANT beat a guild with 10fighters mages in clerics in 5 archers.


the reason*am saying 5 archers cause right now they anit that good to have 10 of.


now ppl gotta think smart about how thir guild is gonna be its perfect.


any one agree?


or disagree?*

[Utakata]

I see what you're saying.

[eclipsemob]

all cbt1 players need to wait till open beta to play ...frig that you guys already played time to wait like we did

[Keenan]

we already did wait like you did stay on topic.*

[biffenbob]

The limit just might be for closed and open beta you never know.

[eclipsemob]

keenan did you play cbt1?..if you did then you didnt wait an now you need too...if you didnt play cbt1 then im sry but i was talkin to utakata not you...ok listen up ....whoever played cbt1 understand this ......you played period nothing else to say.....if you dont get chosen to cbt2 then you know its because you already played an should wait till open beta

[Keenan]

maybe i hope not tho am lovin this i wanna see how guild leaders will have thir guilds*built.


full with just one class if they do that they will lose to guilds like i posted above.


a guild full of cleric o.0 donno about that...

[biffenbob]

The gm's said if your in cbt1 your in 2

[Keenan]

*@eclipsmob,dude we that played on cb1 had to wait like what a mouth or so utakata?


any way we had to wait way longer then you do.


the gms need the higher lvl ppl to test the higher lvl stuff remember this is cb its for testing not for fun.

[biffenbob]

Exactly but I can't help having fun

[eclipsemob]

i frankly dont care how long you waited ...you played

[biffenbob]

And found bugs that's our main job find bugs report them to make the game better.

[Keenan]

and you will too.didt you just join up about a week ago?dude dont blame me for your bad luck for not geting a invite.i cant help that i do hope you get one tho.*

[Skeith]

Totaly agree with keenan with the high lvl char.


And i don't like the the idea of NON-PVP Guild! Whats the point of having a non PVP guild if you can't GW! but it will be a pretty name decoration on your char. lol =)

[eclipsemob]

i got a invite retard..........long ago......i just dont want high lvl ppl in a new game it isnt fair ...if cbt1 players are coming back there should be a character wipe

[Keenan]

there is gonna be a character wipe for*ob right now they need the higher lvl ppl.*

[Utakata]

Mister 10 years of beta experience should know that producers wipe after closed beta. He should also know that high-level testing needs to be done in quests, items, and skills, meaning that higher level people should be allowed back in.

[eclipsemob]

not all games wipe idiot nice try tho smarty hahahahaha......wow ur dumb anyway ...all games should do wipes to make it fair for others ......friggin cbt1 players come in with thier lvl 40's thinkin thier big an bad......when in all actuallity....they have no lives....if you make real actual money while you play then ur a smart person but if your sitting their playing the game an making no money just being a bumm then ur a waste of life

[Skeith]

@eclipsmob Sorry But that not gonna happen the goal of CBT is to find bugs in the game! if theres no high lvl char. who will find bugs in high lvl place and i think the goal of CB2 is to test how many players can a server hold! Your lucky you been invited so just play and just lvl up!



If it isn't fair cause they are high lvl char in CB2 then just wait for OB im sure ill start again at lvl 1 cause theres gonna be a wiped out when OB comes!

[eclipsemob]

admins do the high lvl testing not you...i should know i have been a GM for 7 games...all closed beta was wiped yes...but i wiped every closed beta.....cbt1 played then wipe then cbt2 played then wipe ...thats how it should be done

[eclipsemob]

w/e skeith you heard me

[Keenan]

lol your becoming the next big flamer like xbilly you guys in the same family?*

[Skeith]

Why do it always come to this kind of conversation! -sigh-

Im out! see you all tommorow in the game! =)

[Utakata]

Oh and you're making money for sitting around laughing at people more intelligent than you and lying about your age to cover up your insecure personality.


Even if, through a small fragment of probability, you are*a game reviewer, I would just compile a list of your posts and show your superiors just how credible you really are. Which isn't very.

[Skeith]

If you really like to wiped out CB1 players then just go talk to the GM's in this game instead Flaming us! where not the ones controlling this game were just players, if the GM's decision is to wiped out CB1 players then fine if they don't its also fine! the decisions is up to them!

[eclipsemob]

lying about my age ??...hahahaha 9/16/1975 **** face hahahaha ur soo dumb stupid @ss 19 yr old

[Keenan]

dude 19 is*grown you from the*us?*

[Utakata]

I'm done with this argument. Back on topic please, just ignore this guy.

[SexyAkuma]

@eclipsmob you cussing at ppl and being disresprctful aint gonna make the GM all of a sudden wipe for CB2, they clearly state our chars from cb1 wont be wiped. and you being a GM in 7 games means **** all here, your just a beta tester like the rest of us. so complaining and calling names and flaming in very childish and imature.


just play the game find bugs abd be happy and try to stay on topic.


Ontopic: it is kinda annoying to only have 35 ppl in a guild, but that can be dealt with fellows. happy bug hunting tmr hope to see yall in game as well.

[eclipsemob]

what GM...you see any around..?.....have you seen any around in the past mnth??.....anyway i have been delaing with this kids stupid remarks since i put my first post on frankly i dont give a **** about a wipe.....its goona be fun in-game i already have ppl on a pk list hahahahah thanks to forum

[thesjaakie]

Eclipse, 32 and still don't know how to use an edit button. Guess that explains the dipers.



Also, you're wrong about cbt1 &amp;gt; delete &amp;gt; cbt2 &amp;gt; delete. Let me tell you why. Because of 2nd wave of invites.



While the 2nd wave of invites can test all the begin stuff the 1st wave can concentrate on the higher lvl stuff.



Otherwise closed betas get dragged out way too long since they otherwise need to wait again for people to reach high lvl.



And you get paid for some games to test? That's sad.


But man you gave me an idea, I'm gonna sign my unborn child up for testing.

[Skeith]

@Utakata totaly agree with you!



OMG!!*scared* Please Don't PK me


Cause you can't!



got it!

[Keenan]

*ok i go back on topic then so what do you guys think about what i said on page one of this thread?


about the 5archers 10 of the othir classes.

[SexyAkuma]

well i think its a good set up so to speak, you got the 5 archer and mages dealing serious damage from a far while clerics and fighters are opening cans of whoop **** and healing on the front lines.

[thesjaakie]

It does sound logical what you said Keenan to form guilds like that. But it should be forced though. I mean, perhaps an all mage guild would own all (with 5 clerics to supply with buffs)





Also Eclipse one more, admins do test quite a few things with the high lvls. But a few admins can only do so much. If you get several players you get much more and faster feedback. Especially in a game that revolves around a cash shop. They really a lot on the community.

[Utakata]

I think all class numbers should be equal or near-equal, this would be based on main character of course [I'm*going to play all classes except maybe not archer], so then you could pretty much guaranteed have the classes you need on at all times. If you only had 5 archers maybe an archer isn't online for a Kingdom quest and you may need their debuffs or whatever, but if you have 10 clerics online then not all of them can participate and it gets unfair.

[Resandben]

Don't underestimate archers, in later levels they have a skill that immoblises their enemy, they'd be a guilds antimage class imo as they could immobilise mages so the melee classes could take them out without having to chase them down.


On Topic: limit of 50 seems more reasonable to me, especially because of time zone issues.

[Utakata]

Yep. Want some people in all time zones... We only have room for like 5 people in Europe/Asia and it's unfair to them because they'll be more alone.

[eclipsemob]

isnt this a american made game?..or no?

[Utakata]

Nope it was created in Korea, ported to China and Japan and now here.

[SexyAkuma]

@Utakata ah chinese version was first and is the original, then japanese version korean is relatively new still cb or its in ob now and american version.


and balancing your* classes in guild sound like a good idea as well. ill have to see which ways are best for PL.

[Utakata]

Ah well I figured Korea usually comes first.

[Schislet]

UTAKATA



QUICK



http://www.electronicfiles.net/files/98/cinema.jpg

[thesjaakie]

Schislet, why did you start to post earlier?



Though Utakata wasn't the only one ;) (though the early posts of eclipse were mostly common sense though, then again I didn't read all of em~)



But I love the picture linking you do xD

[SexyAkuma]

I always assume games start in Korea too.


&amp;#160;

[Pirat]

lying about my age ??...hahahaha 9/16/1975 **** face hahahaha ur soo dumb stupid @ss 19 yr old





he isnt even 32 if you calculate :)

and NOBODY...nobody...would make himself older if youre +30 lol...


what a kid

[4swordlink]

well timezone is always the biggest problem in any guild. However it also plays into the stradegy of guild wars. you want to attack the guild when the least # of their people are on for maximum advantage. Unless your the fair fight type.


*Btw i actually don't know how long a guild war lasts so could someone from Harlquein or Teva please tell me. Thank you.

[Resandben]

Lasts 1 hour, but then you have a 2 hour waiting period(i think) before you can declare war again.

[lilflip45]

Hrmm...30 people an 300s when did they change it to that? in Cb1 i thought the guild cap was up around 50?...but maybe the guild system works like in some games where the guild lvls and you get additional member slots per lvl..well at least i hope it works like that...30 members kinda sucks.

[sharptalon]

The member limit is likely to change.

[4swordlink]

probably. I think it might partially be to find the best combination of somehow balancing guilds.


I think they will raise the limit because those of us that care are complaining about it.

[4swordlink]

Is this a double post? Yes it is. Why? Well i just wanted to tell eclipse that it would be in his best interest to simmer down before he ends up like iluvcountry. I woun't even go into that cus it was just ugly.

[Keenan]

*35 members is the guild cap lilflip.


i like it this way.

[Keenan]

i just thout of athir guild class build up


15clerics support clerics only not the clerics that fight.


and the rest range atkers and less fighters.

[Resandben]

Fighters are needed to take out clerics though.

[ravor44]

eclipsemob is a 10 year old...not a 32 year old...he doesn't speak that well at all...I'm 16 and I can speak better than him...even though I'm not an American...

[Keenan]

@andyB,yeh guess a lil more fighter wouldt hurt.


@ravor44,lol were over that trying to move on in stay on topic.

[Nghtpunisher]

OK i haven't yet been in a GW but i think if people make their archer right the added crits they could do would be greatly appreciated. and if you skill correctly you can be spamming your skills all day long my lowest skill crits for more than double my avg crits thats good no ? well i just wanted to point the only reason i think people believe the archer is under powered is cuz no one has made a power build for pvp yet

[Skeith]

@Nghtpunisher your kinda wrong about that! i didn't lvl up my archer to Lv41 for nothing! im PVP ready =)

[4swordlink]

Skeith is the master Archer in this game lol

[Nghtpunisher]

well people talk as though archers sux whats your build? I'm going pure Dex and spr crit and dodge thats the way its meant to be played so i thought id work it out


@utakata*wut*guild*r*u*in?*

[Utakata]

Requiem.

[Nghtpunisher]

any*openings*for*a*devoted*pvp*archer?*

[Utakata]

Er well it depends. Right now we are not full per-se but well, it's complicated if you leave an app at www.setbb.com/reqiemforum I'll tell you more

[Nghtpunisher]

lol error 404 file not found lol XD (i never liked applying to a guild i just wanna join one thats willing to have an archer thats always on-line)



well when u find out what went wrong resend the guild page k Ty

[Cosmicolor]

lol Uta left the &amp;quot;u&amp;quot; in Requiem which is why theres an error


here you go: http://www.setbb.com/requiemforum/


^_^

[Utakata]

Sorry ^^' typing with 1 hand

[4swordlink]

no image keenen, reupload it or something

[Keenan]

here is a screenshot of a guild*with a good guild class build.*http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z4/keenan371/13screenshot002.jpg (&quot;http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z4/keenan371/13screenshot002.jpg&quot;)

[JimJimster]

i only read the first page of this thread but i hav something to tell eclipsemob


-y would they wipe cbt1 players if they need to test the high level parts of the game, its a waste of time


they invited u and the other batch 2 people to test the lower level parts of the game so the batch 1 cant test high stuff and not start over


and ya i agree with keenan and utakata on everything

[jala81]

I don't like the idea they lowered the amount to 300s, but perhaps it's for CB2 only, so that many can try out the guild. And I find the limited number of members fine - also perhaps only for CB2, as to not let guilds have 50+ members and own everyone.


I would suggest that the guilds begin with 35 members and either have lvls, meaning more members and more.. well.. various things (I won't go into detail for now), or increase according to guildmaster's lvl (although the latter can be abused).


Surely, it all depends on how Korean and Japanese versions work.

[Trebori]

@eclipsemob


If you don't like the game or the way it is run then what are you still doing here? please just leave we will NOT miss you. Isn't it obvious nobody likes you?


*back on topic*


I*think there should be*atleast 50 in the guild. It doesn't have to be to big but big enough so you can have enough people on at one time to get some stuff accomplished. You rarely have over half of the guild on at any one time.*

[azol]

ok im in the CB and i plan on waiting til OB to even start a guild but im fine with the 30 player limit


&amp;#160;


just my opinoin

[Angels]

Hmm i say one step at a time and if it gets wiped it gets wiped ill still play because in the end your playing a good game for fun not just to be uber good at it.


35 personally sounds small but im sure its gona change in the future (avoid saying in ob because well there may just be another cb3!!!)

[Tralu]

Wow, months after CB and I'm posting here. Anyways, I've started a petition to increase the guild member cap so there can be more members per guild. Here's the link http://www.petitiononline.com/guildall/petition.html.

[ofbraindoiLack]

I'm not really for increasing the limit, because then the admins would, inevitably, be increased as well[to keep the guild in line and all]. And we all know some admins can be a little...trigger happy. The master would probably go insane with the possibility of too many rowdy admins and members. Then again it's not like it's a requirment to meet the limit :]..;;