View Full Version : Do you think fiesta gets boring at a high lvl?
barloka
01-07-2008, 05:25 AM
well too me it is i mean really all u do is grind and grind and grind get too a high lvl with more and more exp needed getting harder too look for parties low exp when solo and more expensive equipment @.@
fiesta needs more monsters and maps :S get creative XD
i do nothing but chat now on fiesta or friendly wars >:D or just buff ppl =.=
give me your opinion i would really like too kno :)
Ryokosha
01-07-2008, 05:36 AM
Yeah Fiesta gets boring exactly at level 26 when you can't join KQs frequently anymore and you have to start grinding because the quests aren't enough exp to reach your next level.
This game would be the best ever if there were more KQs (and I also mean different types, like you get a new "mission" every 2 levels instead of every 10 and you can always select between 5 different ones). Then you basically always had something interesting to do and I wouldn't get boring.
barloka
01-07-2008, 05:40 AM
post more opinions ppl XD just wana see wat everyone has too say :D
barloka
01-07-2008, 05:43 AM
i kno how hard it is for GM's too work on this kinda stuff but u shouldve put a little more thought into it XD well hope u make fiesta better if u do in the future ill come back too play :D
what i mean better is diffrent skills more costumes mounts weps kingdom quest no more bugs more monsters maps bosses (mini bosses) and other stuff :D these are just some of my ideas and suggestions :) looking forward too seeing wat fiesta has too give in the future good luck GM's d(^.^d)
Ryokosha
01-07-2008, 05:43 AM
The GMs have nothing to do with the gameplay anyways. We can just hope that the korean developers add more KQs when the game gets older. (Or there'll be a better MMORPG which features the same, but that's a different story.)
barloka
01-07-2008, 05:47 AM
currently im playing SoS (secret of the solstice)
and TOP (tales of pirates)
for me SoS is ok since its still new
TOP i love the diffrent costume varieties its just awsome they have more pets and cool skills :) hope fiesta can be a little more like dat XD
well if u wana search me for either of these games i have the same username
SoS server ~ only one server LOL = barloka
TOP region~ dream island...server~treasure isle
hope too see u :3
atese
01-07-2008, 07:01 AM
I think the main problem for me is the lack of 60+ boss drops. Being able to hunt TK every few hours was a great way to break the monotony of a long grind. The odd green drop from random mobs was cool too(and blues o.O I was there when Badak's crazy axe dropped.) I don't want to spend 400+ hours grinding ancient stonie just to cap out and lose the opportunity to effectively farm the level 70 dungeon(drop rate was really bad at TK when we were 59) Not to mention the level of boredom after hitting the cap.
HateUchiha
01-07-2008, 07:15 AM
iv said this times anmd times before.....this game IS boring after a certain lv its just....not fun.
grind grind grind. the lucky ppl who hav nutthing to do can play for hours and hours and lv........then? nutthing just waste their lives on this all day.
but, if ur like me u find days to play and days to rest, and u can lv at a pretty good progress. but yea..boring.
i dont see how the lv 70+ got there so fast...really...
WingSword
01-07-2008, 07:17 AM
I think the main problem for me is the lack of 60+ boss drops. Being able to hunt TK every few hours was a great way to break the monotony of a long grind. The odd green drop from random mobs was cool too(and blues o.O I was there when Badak's crazy axe dropped.) I don't want to spend 400+ hours grinding ancient stonie just to cap out and lose the opportunity to effectively farm the level 70 dungeon(drop rate was really bad at TK when we were 59) Not to mention the level of boredom after hitting the cap.
agree i dont want to play a game to be bored of grinding >.<
at a low level is fiesta awesome but on higher levels... >.<
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KiSsGod
01-07-2008, 07:36 AM
currently im playing SoS (secret of the solstice)
and TOP (tales of pirates)
for me SoS is ok since its still new
TOP i love the diffrent costume varieties its just awsome they have more pets and cool skills :) hope fiesta can be a little more like dat XD
well if u wana search me for either of these games i have the same username
SoS server ~ only one server LOL = barloka
TOP region~ dream island...server~treasure isle
hope too see u :3
I quit TOP to play fiesta. That game has more stuff in it but lacks alot that fiesta has. Like better graphics and friendlier people. Also the whole game is based on its Item Mall. The only way to get alot of gold is to buy from it. If not your poor all through out the game. Fiesta > TOP Many of my friends agreed with me.
All my friends left that game for fiesta. =p
reesiecutie
01-07-2008, 07:36 AM
I, for one, love grinding for hours on end at times. I like the break in the monotony of the occasional quests, but the grind can be quite rewarding. As long as I have a good group to talk to in party and guild, I'm good to go!
-Leona-
01-07-2008, 08:02 AM
OMG she is the gm of SERENITY :O
THAN WHAT MAKES ME :D, i guess i'm the GM of Serenity in another server ROFLMAO
Grinding can get really boring at times BUT can be fun if u r with friends or guildies.
Holydin
01-07-2008, 08:15 AM
i personally think that the game is good itself, but as every game it CAN be better.
one change that i would love is the pvp. right now pvp is only possible if one is in a guild. and that guild MUST be on war with another.
-> without waring guild= no pvp
why??
i mean, is it that hard to create some places where pvp is possible? why do you have the arena in elderine?? it would be sooooo cool if pvp in that arena is possible.
pvp should be like this: no loss of money or exp (but even if you loose exp) i am sure that fiesta would be much more fun, cuz then all you have to do is go to that arena and test your playing skills.
thus you dont have to be in a waring guild, and you can ask ppl for a duel whenever you want to. if they are interested, fine, if not... who cares?? there are more ppl to ask ^^
angel_sanctuary
01-07-2008, 09:23 AM
I agree it does get boring at higher level, espeically with how slow and how much EXP you need which means your only real option for leveling is a good AoE party, which can be hard to find =.=
LUCKLY..looking at the original Korean Fiesta site and some translations on alot of their recent updates, there ARE some things to look foreward too, just have to wait untill they are implemented on the English speaking servers...for example:
Battlegrounds -> This is a Solo area where monsters have less EXP and Strength so that you can solo, they also give more EXP and chance to drop Equipment. BUT it's a PvP map, so you can PK people - and No team is allowed. It's based by levels so there are different places depending upon your level
Competing Area -> This is PK maps. Purpose of it is for you to find people you want to duel to just duel or to test your strength.
House -> Real house that you can go into, invite your guildys into, and also decorate with furniture
Guild Tournament -> An Actual tournament system where alot of guilds compete to win the finals (I think starts with around 8 guilds ..then quartar finals, semi finals, final)
99 level cap they got 3 new maps, new monsters, new equipment, new skills, and 120 q uests
SO...there are already some cool things , just have to rather play and wait for them or find another game to play untill new changes come.
But on the topic itself of what could be changed, I think overall, mmorpgs need to find things to add to do besides just grind...games get boring if you are just leveling. I've always thought it would be cool if you could get a job in the game..for example, be a weapon merchant, monster/pet tamer, armor smith..something that involves a massive quest(s) just to become an apprentice and then be able for example through quests or gathering items be able to make someone uniq weapons, tame monsters, make armors..then you have to level it up to be able to make higher tier/level items..they just don't have as good as stats as the boss monster or solar eclipes but better than a normal item.
KireiYosei
01-07-2008, 09:59 AM
Yes o.o You've seen all there is to see, you've done it all, and all you have left to do is KQ and grind.
BlackDuck
01-07-2008, 10:19 AM
i personally think that the game is good itself, but as every game it CAN be better.
one change that i would love is the pvp. right now pvp is only possible if one is in a guild. and that guild MUST be on war with another.
-> without waring guild= no pvp
why??
i mean, is it that hard to create some places where pvp is possible? why do you have the arena in elderine?? it would be sooooo cool if pvp in that arena is possible.
pvp should be like this: no loss of money or exp (but even if you loose exp) i am sure that fiesta would be much more fun, cuz then all you have to do is go to that arena and test your playing skills.
thus you dont have to be in a waring guild, and you can ask ppl for a duel whenever you want to. if they are interested, fine, if not... who cares?? there are more ppl to ask ^^
I think that the OX Quiz Area will be the PVP area..
I'm not sure but if you have ever been in there, then you must have noticed the Battlefield.
gobangwall86
01-07-2008, 10:34 AM
hmm, after u hit a certain lvl KQ isn't an option to gain good exp anymore, rather, to gain some stuffs or to have fun with ppl
grinding gets boring after some time, especially since the drop rate incident and sometimes it's hard to get a party that lasts
man, i wish a free granado espada server would be released..sigh...i miss the missions
i agree with angel_sanctuary, mmorpg developers need to think of a new idea for mmorpg, making something else the main source of exp rather than grinding ~.~
the idea of KQ isn't very new, quests are so limited and sometimes ridiculous(repeatable ones), i wish OS will be able to add as many new features ASAP, if not this game will get old ~.~...i hope there'll be a weapon smithing option coz those equipment's prices are really bad@$$
edit : i thought the OX quiz area was supposed to be for the event?
Gravvi
01-07-2008, 10:34 AM
My opinion ok what makes it boring is lack of quests. On my archer i didn't get bored. But then again i made new friends. My cleric was a different story. I am currently lvl 51 and there was what 2 or 3 quests and that got me to 15%. THe rest is grinding. Well its not enough.
I think there should be enough quests to get us to 60% at least then we wouldn't be so bored.
MewMewLina
01-07-2008, 10:36 AM
I think that the OX Quiz Area will be the PVP area..
I'm not sure but if you have ever been in there, then you must have noticed the Battlefield.
That's a standard quiz field, instead of typing so they can't hear you, you just step on the x or the o and that's your choice. It's much easier.
Angel, you forgot more cash shop stuff. Mainly the outfits, which add more cuztomization.
It's quite the opposite for me. Higher levels = more friends and more stuff to do with them, provided they're still active. Sure, making low levels is better, but you can do more when you're a higher level, like farm without dying in Uruga, mine ores without dying, safe passage, killing a friends quest monsters with ease, being the big talk of your guild because you save them from people who randomly war you, there's a lot of things.
bionical2k
01-07-2008, 10:37 AM
i think the fact is that the quests that i have noticed dont give enough. in the fact that maybe there shud be one or 2 more quests. total of all quests in higher lvls equalling say 30% to 50% taking into account the xp of green kills to total xp needed for lvl. vampire bat (green) lvl 58 cleric and only get 219 xp when i need a total of 2.6 million xp and then hope to gain a minimum of 4% xp reward from quest to hlp then find i still need to grind for the other 85% of total xp needed to lvl. (yes slight exagerations but just slight). just to give u the idea. btw in shaiya i am pretty much grinding for the same amount of xp at lvl 29 but the green mobs (my) lvl give higher xp rates and are quicker kills so lvllin is faster than here. dungeon mobs in shaiya take a little laonger to kill but the xp is worth it. thats the difference
RAISE THE XP PER KILL PERHAPS?
Scarlets
01-07-2008, 10:44 AM
Sure it gets boring at times. More quest! *chants*
Mexplo
01-07-2008, 10:49 AM
if someone wanna stop fiesta cus its borred just give me your account. LOLZ
Death-God
01-07-2008, 10:53 AM
people without a life.....they are the ones.....others should feel sorry for...
viorexx
01-07-2008, 12:03 PM
yes it does
all i do is fight mobs
or heal my friends
smitske
01-07-2008, 12:07 PM
it gets boring, high lvls just to much to grind. we need more quests and better way for exp than that brainless grinding.
barloka
01-08-2008, 08:10 PM
ya they really need too add lots of stuff :S
more quests
more exp from mobs
better PvP system
and a job system
then it wouldnt get so boring :P
J3ff4ya
01-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Yes o.o You've seen all there is to see, you've done it all, and all you have left to do is KQ and grind.
Not true, there is a LOT of cool maps, new KQs, and stuff to come. Just give it time.
kamalkj1
01-08-2008, 09:27 PM
I quit TOP to play fiesta. That game has more stuff in it but lacks alot that fiesta has. Like better graphics and friendlier people. Also the whole game is based on its Item Mall. The only way to get alot of gold is to buy from it. If not your poor all through out the game. Fiesta > TOP Many of my friends agreed with me.
All my friends left that game for fiesta. =p
If you want a really good game, try 9dragons or TwelveSky.
BlackDuck
01-08-2008, 09:31 PM
I agree it does get boring at higher level, espeically with how slow and how much EXP you need which means your only real option for leveling is a good AoE party, which can be hard to find =.=
LUCKLY..looking at the original Korean Fiesta site and some translations on alot of their recent updates, there ARE some things to look foreward too, just have to wait untill they are implemented on the English speaking servers...for example:
Battlegrounds -> This is a Solo area where monsters have less EXP and Strength so that you can solo, they also give more EXP and chance to drop Equipment. BUT it's a PvP map, so you can PK people - and No team is allowed. It's based by levels so there are different places depending upon your level
Competing Area -> This is PK maps. Purpose of it is for you to find people you want to duel to just duel or to test your strength.
House -> Real house that you can go into, invite your guildys into, and also decorate with furniture
Guild Tournament -> An Actual tournament system where alot of guilds compete to win the finals (I think starts with around 8 guilds ..then quartar finals, semi finals, final)
99 level cap they got 3 new maps, new monsters, new equipment, new skills, and 120 q uests
SO...there are already some cool things , just have to rather play and wait for them or find another game to play untill new changes come.
But on the topic itself of what could be changed, I think overall, mmorpgs need to find things to add to do besides just grind...games get boring if you are just leveling. I've always thought it would be cool if you could get a job in the game..for example, be a weapon merchant, monster/pet tamer, armor smith..something that involves a massive quest(s) just to become an apprentice and then be able for example through quests or gathering items be able to make someone uniq weapons, tame monsters, make armors..then you have to level it up to be able to make higher tier/level items..they just don't have as good as stats as the boss monster or solar eclipes but better than a normal item.
Take a look on this thread ;)
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36626
Patchouli
01-08-2008, 09:47 PM
The points I felt the most bored or frustrated with Fiesta at were/are:
1) around level 25-32.
2) around level 41-43.
3) being at level 59 for months.
barloka
01-09-2008, 12:12 AM
wow are the GM's working hard >.<
Ryokosha
01-09-2008, 01:51 AM
currently im playing SoS (secret of the solstice)
and TOP (tales of pirates)
for me SoS is ok since its still new
TOP i love the diffrent costume varieties its just awsome they have more pets and cool skills :) hope fiesta can be a little more like dat XD
well if u wana search me for either of these games i have the same username
SoS server ~ only one server LOL = barloka
TOP region~ dream island...server~treasure isle
hope too see u :3
Um but Tales of Pirates and Secret of Solstice is ONLY about grinding whileas Fiesta is only about grinding on higher levels. :p
NinjaBaker
01-09-2008, 01:33 PM
I think Fiesta does get boring at times (although i really want to play but i havent been able to because of XCrap ><) I am currently a lvl 42 mage and i get about 3 quests everytime i level up, the rest is pure grinding. I think there should be at lest 4-5 quests per level OR there should be new maps. The quests would keep us busy. New maps wouldnt hurt either, I mean it would make grinding a little funner ^^ :D