Archers are worst if you comepare them whit other classes

[Josvanthof]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

[bubbat15]

Amen Bro...

[implcris]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

this game is not all about doing "better" than other people...you can be an archer and still have as much or even mroe fun being an archer compared to other classes...it just depends on what class you like right?

i always loved archer, but the only reason i quit my archer is because i promised myself "if i dont get this bow to be +9, i should lose al my mone and not be able to continue playing without making more money ^_^"...so yeah i quit my archer and now im playing a warrior...warriors are fun too =)...but it all comes down to your personal preferences

[XpierulesX]

Archers armor is cool... o.o

[Lythari]

Archers are not worse than any other class. They do not do the same thing as any other class, ergo cannot be better or worse. Stop whining about this, people; it's starting to get old.

[sbr999]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:


I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

Awh sounds so bitter...just like my previous posts T.T
But you know what while i have no access to my normal account cos of ban...I really miss my archer and don't really think they suck anymore...at least not that much lol

[Lvl-ing]: I totally disagree with you lvl-ing is very easy, to get 40 or 50 in PARTY. Even solo is ok below lvl 30-40 (above 40 too but takes some time lol)
You mentioned that archers need party to lvl...it's true since we are DD-rs, and also this is an MMORPG or whatever o.o'

[KQ]: I don't think archers are useless in them...we do good DMG on 1on1 mobs. Can also lure better than mages with DPS and higher aim,

[PvP]: As for me I never expected myself to be capable of killing a cleric nor a fighter at my lvl, but dealing mages at same lvl ist't a fuss (until lvl 60 =P)
If you play your archers well they can't kill you either though cos you keep on kiting ^.^''
Start 'tanking' a fighter or cleric usually/alway ends up 'Warping in 2 mins ' LOL

[Comparing]: There's no point comparing archers to other classes, as it was mentioned before.
I play a cleric as well, and I don't think i can compare the two.
Playing cleric I mainly need to press to button when soloing. (lvl 23 only =D)
It's fun cos you have more solo capacity, but also lame cos you need mainly 2 skills. In (aoe) pt you have more work though as a cleric.
While using archers you do more skills soloing, kiting , and spamming skills.
And in pt. you only do DPS and aoe skill (skipping the running part and whatever XD)

[Tanks]: You said high def and atk.False! It's either high atk but lower def:axe/2h user. Or high def and lower atk:shield &1h.

In my opinion you should get your archer to lvl 40 and make a +9 GGK , you gonna love your archer my friend ^^d.

Oh yes, one more thing: Archeruser.....Archers' armor looks kewl indeed lol

sbr666-lvl 56 archer-Enjoying ban(??) at the moment^^
WannaHealYou-lvl 23 cleric-Enjoying ban at the moment ^^
sbr999-lvl 1 archer -active-LOL

[tiricky]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:


:)Maybe the reason u want to quit using an archer is that u can't find any one to help u lvl

[lRomeol]

i Do not agree with you at all. archers are fun charecter and if u build it properly it wi surve you well

maybe your build makes it harder on you to play but for my opinion and expirience it is very fun easy cool and intertaining on playing an archer.

and im lvl 31 with DeepXi and im tanking on harkans at CP (with a cleric)
so i consider that it is very good and maybe you just should ask for ppl to party more coz the game online is based on relations with other people... that what makes those games such as Fiesta so fun to play.

so i hope ull not quit your archer and dont giveup... but if u do mages are fun too :P

[sbr999]

:)Maybe the reason u want to quit using an archer is that u can't find any one to help u lvl

That's a bit mean, but I partly feel that reason here too =.='

Get more friends they will surely help, or come to Bijou ^^
When I get access to my normal account I will help ya drop some lvl up ^^d

[lRomeol]

you should not be shie... just go ahead and ask ppl to party... ull know each other in the middle of the parting ^_^

][_,([])][_, ^_^

[lightningmystix]

I also disagree a lot. Btw, PLEASE, there's so MANY threads on this .___. I don't see what's wrong with an archer.
Sure, we're not that great in a grinding way ATM, but the world does not revolve around levels.
I dance with my friends and guildies, they still party me even though I'm an archer. It's NOT the end of the world!11!!!!!1111

So please stop complaining about quitting, etc. Archers are fine, unless you want to play in a pure-grind way. I'm hoping they'll get even better though, as even if you look at it from a postive side, archers still aren't very great on a grind based scale.

Oh yeah, and the archer armour is indeed cool, LOL xD

[Devanee]

Archers are good to have since they will help the figthers when off to a quest or a kingdom quest. They'll attack from the distance creating some damage at the same time. Although I may agree that they don't have many skills as a mage or a fighter do, they are useful if you ask me.

[The-Sakura]

I am actually getting scared of archers ^.^

Currently, it appears as if they are underpowerd, and when the caps are lifted, there are going to be a few (since half of you budding archers quit) high levels archers out there- who are suddenly VERY powerful, and VERY much wanted.


Just think about that before quitting ^.^

[Balder]

Archers...are the sort of a, um, how should I put it? Oh yeah, there like a "Reward" class. They're the sort of class that requires dedication, just like the mage. When they get high lvled, theyre...just wow...

[XpierulesX]

Well archers are pretty good in Gwars, what's more worse than taking 18/12/40+ damage plus the 50s their hitting on you?

[TheDeadlySeven]

I dont mind archer like wise it is my fav class. Sure it's kinda kard to play. But hard something is better the reward is...

[monkeypoohead17]

right now yes they are now as good as they were supposed to be but they do have a purpose in a party.Not as big as the others ones....lol but still a purpose.

[dragonslayer42]

Stop listening to them... listen to a cleirc! Archers are great! They lure, poisn the bosses, and protect my butt from ' over aggro healing '. They are great on bosses, rate of fire: dang, damge + rate of fire + poisn = x.x boss. They help ALOT, and if you cant train good, come to cp with me! There goes soloing lol

[Korthiera]

Umm ... as soon as I saw the title the words BULL and SH*T come to mind.

We have better DPS and DoT than fighters and clerics and have better def than mages.

One of the roles that the archer has is keep the threshold moving, sure the fighters are the tanks but the occasional strays are let lose ... and there goes the mage unless the archers and clerics have anything to say.

For Gods sake you've played an archer for 25 levels ... grow some balls.

Also ... it would have taken less time to log in and make another person than to go through the trouble of making an useless thread.

..... idiots these days

edit: This could also be because of all the INT that i know you would have added to your build.

[rang3r]

Hey i got a fighter its fun but without a cleric or stones u crash and my lvl17archer i got him lvl17 in 3 days!!!sure i can die easily but...most monsters miss on me for me i think archer is the best class but thats just me

[blackguy729]

Archers By Them Selves Are Week And That Is Y U Should Get A Party
I Knoticed That Archers Are Week Early On But I Am Dowing Fine
Because I Usaly Have A Party. Find A Good Party And U Will B Fine





Ps: Archers Have Good Dexterty. Y Do U Then U Usualy Dont Miss?
Archers Arnt Good At Close Range Combat.

[Terranwolf]

Yikes. Please don't type that way! It can become hard to read having each word starting with a capital/uppercase letter.
Anyway, all classes are balanced differently.

You must understand the purpose of the class; it's not actually weak. ;)

[Sword_Rain17]

Archers aren't so weak, but die too fast and are hated (Riiight clerics?) If you're a smart ranger, you can solo fine, but it's a total waste of time. We need a type of stun, faster run speed, and more skills. Less SP usage too..I can burn 200 on one monster if I want to. Mages have a ton of attack power, but die within 1-2 hit of any monster. Their skills are too good. Clerics..Invincible..They need less Defence. Fighters I'd say are the closest to perfect; OutSpark made them just right ( Maybe a bit much evasion though)

[elf_range]

ok its very true that its hard to lvl an archer solo so if u try to do this go for 1-1 spr dex then go end acsessories that helps keep down damage

[Lythari]

Archers aren't so weak, but die too fast and are hated (Riiight clerics?) If you're a smart ranger, you can solo fine, but it's a total waste of time. We need a type of stun, faster run speed, and more skills. Less SP usage too..I can burn 200 on one monster if I want to. Mages have a ton of attack power, but die within 1-2 hit of any monster. Their skills are too good. Clerics..Invincible..They need less Defence. Fighters I'd say are the closest to perfect; OutSpark made them just right ( Maybe a bit much evasion though)

Clerics are not invincible. Anyone who has played as one for more than a day can tell you that. I am a cleric and enjoy partying with archer, btw. Our defense is less than a fighter (assuming you aren't a tanker mage), and you want us to have less? Do you want us to die faster? Heal draws a LOT of aggro. That is why we are built the way we are. There is nothing 'wrong' with the class balance. Archers need some more skills, but the stats and builds are fine. Archers are not skill spammers like mages. They are lures. For that, you really only need to use DoT skills. None of the classes are built to be effective soloers. Even clerics have difficulty soloing: I'm living proof. I have died my fair share of times as a cleric.

Archers aren't worse or better than other classes. They do a different job. You really can't compare classes in terms of 'better' and 'worse', because the functions of each one are different. Example:

"Mages are the best class in the game!"

They are the best at what, exactly? If you have a fighter of the same level as the mage, and niether are using scrolls/buffs, I feel fairly confident in saying that the fighter is the better tanker. However, mages are the best damage dealers. That statement is true and false, depending on what it's referring to.

"Archers are the worst class in the game."

Again, this depends heavily on what you are talking about. They have lower aggro levels than other classes, making them effective lures. Their bow does enough damage to get the attention of one enemy, without attracting five others. They are also good at doing steady damage as opposed to the burst damage of mages. However, they aren't the best tankers you'll ever find. They can't do as much damage in short bursts as mages, but they can keep attacking when mages have to cool.

You people just keep complaining about different classes, and I don't know why. You aren't better or worse than any other class. Clerics aren't better or worse than any other class. Every class has its function and every class has weaknesses. If you try to use a class for something it isn't intended for, those weaknesses will stand out. Ideally, they are all party classes; so party! This isn't just directed at archers: this goes for everyone who posts a thread about how one class is so much better than the others, and how one class totally sux. I'd very much like to see other classes use healing spells as well as clerics do ;)

Btw, I have both a cleric and an archer character that I use a lot.

[Gravvi]

u can't say archers are week. I tanked GGK and did 700dmg crits and i was only lvl 44. Plus archers can have good def and attack. I have almost all end equips. Get crits for the damage. Boom good character.

[nocturnal_eyes]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

hmm.....clerics have one thing that they have to deal with...The tanks treat them badley if something goes wrong, or if the cleric wants to help, the tank yells at them.....i have that alot XD sooo i made a tank and i am yelling at OTHER tanks XD

[nocturnal_eyes]

Archers aren't so weak, but die too fast and are hated (Riiight clerics?) If you're a smart ranger, you can solo fine, but it's a total waste of time. We need a type of stun, faster run speed, and more skills. Less SP usage too..I can burn 200 on one monster if I want to. Mages have a ton of attack power, but die within 1-2 hit of any monster. Their skills are too good. Clerics..Invincible..They need less Defence. Fighters I'd say are the closest to perfect; OutSpark made them just right ( Maybe a bit much evasion though)

you know, clerics are not really invincibe...lol lvl with me in apoline and you will see what i am saying XD
hehe :P i die too much -.- and i am trying to get lvl 30 even tho my sigg says i am lvl 30 XD

ALSO
mages are low like the archers.......i havne and tanks are the most likely to die becuz people depend on them the most, as well as clerics.....i hate how MOST (not all) tanks treat me badly -.-

[nocturnal_eyes]

right now yes they are now as good as they were supposed to be but they do have a purpose in a party.Not as big as the others ones....lol but still a purpose.

*eeeek* ur guild pwned mine with only one person...O.o *eek* we had lvl 40's with us and we KEEPT DYING lol oh well XD

[nocturnal_eyes]

Stop listening to them... listen to a cleirc! Archers are great! They lure, poisn the bosses, and protect my butt from ' over aggro healing '. They are great on bosses, rate of fire: dang, damge + rate of fire + poisn = x.x boss. They help ALOT, and if you cant train good, come to cp with me! There goes soloing lol


I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

also........there is such thing as leveling w/ a friend...that is how i got to my levels XD l
lvl 30 (omg so hard for clerics -.-) when u are a high cleric w/ all of ur armour, people start asking for buffs....they spam u and everything..it gets REALLY ANNOYING!

[lilbuzzbee]

I dont agree...I think archers are awesome (especially higher lvled ones, with really good aim and AoE's).

Why are people saying archers are underpowered? THEY ARE NOT!

(even though I play my cleric most of the time, I still love my archer ^-^)

[tarugo]

LOL! How wrong you are

[Kiara-Crystal-heart]

check out this its hilrous! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JynBEX_kg8&feature=related

[Esoterra]

Wow, did I just see a quadruple post from Nocturnal?

Please stop with these threads. If you don't like your class, play another one.

[SakuraofNature]

Oh u are sooo wrong. Archers are extremely powerful.

[Shootermanz]

Maybe you just dont have a good build.. im a mage and i dont get killed by clerics becuase they cant hit much at all.. and mages dont have good def , but archer has better.. how do you die from a cleric.. ?

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

[Malacath]

I agree with you bro... archers are a bit "ungifted" :o

[SakuraofNature]

Yeah he must have the wrong build. Im an archer and dont get killed easly. Actually i have killed fghter and clercs 4 lvls above me :) Here is an example my achers name is Riny(lvl 45 archer) from the BlackHeart guild. I have fought wth ddsadsad or something like that a lvl 62 cleric and i manage to survive for around 5 mns or so, and i almost killed him... but then he healed and i died LOL, but see?? he is.... 1, 2, 3......... 13 lvls more than me. U must have the wrong build or u must reallu suck at archery LOL im not trying to offend u btw.

[CelticAngel99]

Not reallly, they speed up the kill with poisoning, bleeding, and disease... if it hits.

[leonmusics]

archer hv better damage than mage over a monster. mage can aoe better

[volta2]

well poop, I'm a level 37 archer and I have a ton of fun. AND I'M PURE SPR!!!


Yep...can't say much more. Solo Capacity is horrible, but you just gotta look for the right places to solo. I pretty much own fire vivis right now, but yet I can't find a single warrior who lieks to train on them. I misspelled "like" but I'm too lazy to fix it.

[Lythari]

Perhaps you people would be happier with this type of archer:

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo1.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo2.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo3.jpg

too bad that this isn't on Fiesta, eh?

[SonicBurn]

lol i now where thats from Last Chaos right i play it i'd now im a lvl 17 archer on ther

[Totoros]

Perhaps you people would be happier with this type of archer:

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo1.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo2.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/wumpus/Pics/healerinfo3.jpg

too bad that this isn't on Fiesta, eh?

LOL these are super skills!
We should have at least some of them!
But not the healing stuff.
Just party buff and attack speed raise.

[Lythari]

lol i now where thats from Last Chaos right i play it i'd now im a lvl 17 archer on ther

I'm workin' on an archer and cleric on there. I alternate between it and Fiesta.

[Rukudu]

how can any1 be more right

[graduss]

Archer class is better in solo and duo.Also if some party wanna kill zk,gk,ggk archer is better choice them mage.Mages die really fast.Archers are like some midle class.I like playng as an arche rcos I like solo grinding :)

[mavricgabriel]

Each class has its strong points and weak points... If you feel degraded with comparison with other levels, well thats your point of view... I dont see my archer as a weakling in both solo and party. In fact, i always steal aggro from the tank. And sometimes, I AM THE TANK. Its a matter of how you play your character.:D

[HotRed]

Each class has its strong points and weak points... If you feel degraded with comparison with other levels, well thats your point of view... I dont see my archer as a weakling in both solo and party. In fact, i always steal aggro from the tank. And sometimes, I AM THE TANK. Its a matter of how you play your character.:D

PFFT! Boastful but true! :p

Next time I won't heal you when we duo and I'll let you KISS THE FLOOR with huggies! :p

Just kiding! :D

Don't quit as an Archer! :D

Archer is fun to duo with! ;)

[mavricgabriel]

PFFT! Boastful but true! :p

Next time I won't heal you when we duo and I'll let you KISS THE FLOOR with huggies! :p

Just kiding! :D

Don't quit as an Archer! :D

Archer is fun to duo with! ;)

No plans of quitting as an archer:D

[HotRed]

No plans of quitting as an archer:D

Next time I'm gonna bring cotton buds for the Archer's cuttie ears tsk, tsk, tsk! :p

[anmlink]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:


WOW

I'm a level 39 archer... I havent given up and i WONT give up simply because it is the character i enjoy using the most

If the whole idea of fun to you is just leveling up and being the strongest then you have no hope with any character

I have been soloing in CP since lvl 34 and i even solo in Uruga at times and I dont even have a build

you want some advice for using an archer then here it is.. play to enjoy the game for what it is and not to beat it (virtualy impossible to beat) when it comes to your gears chose them wisely.. they DO make a difference when you do

as i said i dont have a build.. i havent used any character points or even skill points for that matter but just about every piece of gear i get has +END and +DEX.. giving me that def boost and hp boost plus some added evasion

you want a serious note here... archers are the most free class out there..

clerics are always getting used - heal me!
fighters are always getting used - need tank for party!
mages are always being used - LF mage for AOE
archer used? - ....


I'm just seriously dissapointed that you would quit being an archer just so that you could be used...

Do me a favour... slap yourself across the head and bring some sense back to that brain of yours

[lightningmystix]

This is a very old thread, but since it's brought up again, I have one thing I would like to point out xD

You say you have nothing to do in KQs.
No role in parties.

Then maybe you're not suited to be an archer.

Because, for me, having no role in a party, in a KQ means I can be almost anything.
I don't have a set role, I can tank if I want, I can pull if I want, I can DD if I want. The only thing I can't do is heal and buff like a cleric xD

[Twistingtheknife]

Ok that's it! I have had it with this "archers suck" junk! We don't suck! Wait we're weak? Since when? I've lvled my archer to 34 mostly solo no problems. Heck with my bleed and poison i'm soloing in cp with no problem. It's called kitting people learn it! So instead of complaining about how hard archer are to play, LEARN HOW TO PLAY ONE!!! I'm sorry if i come across as being cold but this has been festering in me for awhile.

[lightsparks620]

We archer are not the best but not the rest a archer has power and is strong we are the back up so if a fighter dies we have to portect the clericso heor she can res the fighter

[kelseycookie]

I really must disagree. The girl archers have nice outfits ^_^
Clerics can heal and revive which is nice for partys.
Fighters are okay I guess.
Mages are good with there spells and stuff.

[bigham1991]

arhcers look better and gear and have some pretty powerfull attacks if u empower them right..they also can pick 1 monster out of a crowd of 100 with their range if a cleric did that he wuld have to take all 100..sleep on it kid

[Beached]

Am I the only mage considering abandoning his alt for an archer?

[Bjorli]

I love my archer <3

[AcidAngel]

WOW

you want a serious note here... archers are the most free class out there..

clerics are always getting used - heal me!
fighters are always getting used - need tank for party!
mages are always being used - LF mage for AOE
archer used? - ....


I'm just seriously dissapointed that you would quit being an archer just so that you could be used...

Do me a favour... slap yourself across the head and bring some sense back to that brain of yours


archer not used ? well u only say that cause u are still 39 . just wait till u hit 51 and u get nature mist :>

[Deaths_Will]

archers pwn mages untill lvl 60 by that time it think its fair that we get our ownin time

[kinsin]

anyone who calls an archer weak is just funny
go hybrid
when u hit 51 u get natures mist, now go to abyss and solo a room, fast xp, ez money

im 65 and i make around 20k xp solo aoepoisoning my own small room...
thats for every respawn... so they die within 1minute all the mobs... 20-30k, respawn and repeat....
it does take me like 7mil to lvl but if i can do that all day w/o boredom i lvl faster than anyone i know, trust me... all my friends will back me on how fast i lvl


dont give up hope... make the best of your class and make archers look good ^^
its still beta, let the GM's work it out :)

if you need help on a build or need advice on how you can improve yourself as an archer, send me a private messege... im willing to give some pointers

[lightsparks620]

lol yeah but remember there still is no class better then the other
a mage is a dd and a archer is back up to the fighters so remember a archer i still a powerful friend to those that ask for help

[UzumakiW]

Archer can be really good ifyou build them up right. Every character is special in its own way. It's only a matter of opinion on the topic of which class is better and which is worst.

[Deaths_Will]

the time it takes to wipe out a huge mob half of its life is gone cause of an archers aoe and makes it 10x quicker to kill
i love ptying with archers^^wtih a mage cleric fighter and archer for some reason the mobs go twice as quick then with 2 dd's cleric and fighter
believe me archers are needed for aoe meeting and if you say there not im sorry but your just plain slow

[kenjiroche]

Try with a cleric they are cool

[Plushii]

Why to be an archer.

1; Best soloers.
2; Long range and auto-attack.
3; DoTs will do a lot dmg over time.
4; They're really fun to play.
5; Best looking.

[m78390215]

oh well . just quit instead of whining like a baby here . just that simple

[blackguy729]

MASSIVE NECRO!!! this form is almost a year old check the last post b4 u post kenjiroche. u can get into alot of trouble necroing

[angelicfire]

LOL wat fail?it doesnt matter if people died wat matters most is that HELGA died

[eien_kiseki]

I'm playing a lvl 25 Hawk Acher on Teva and I'm thinking about quiting being a archer. Every classe have some thing, a warrior has a high def and a good attack, a cleric can heal himself, a magician have a high attack but what does a archer have? Nothing, when you are a low lvl archer it's not a problem but whit 20+ you only can lvl good whit a party or a KQ. In a guildwar I allways get killed by a same lvl cleric or warrior!:mad: It's not fun anymore to play a archer, you lvl slow, in a KQ you have nothing to do and every other class of the same lvl is better than you're!:mad::mad::mad:

Archers are great! Yes i know a little slow to level at lv50 under because you have low attack and you have to rely on soloing (partying too, but you cant just party 24/7). But once you hit lv51 and get nature's mist, you'll be rock and rolling! Seriously, i don't have a archer myself but sometimes i just have to look in envy at the ease in which archers solo aoe. You say archers don't have 'anything'? Thats completely untrue. Archers have naturally high dex growth, which means mobs miss on you alot more often. This helps lots in guild wars insuring you not getting killed (aka: my cleric has alot of trouble hitting a archer of equal lv ~.~ thats why i hate pvping archers @_@, same can be said for axe fighters (they have low aim due to axe). Archers also have relatively high m.df so you're pretty safe against mages too =))

Really what makes archers stand out from all the other classes are how easy they are to solo aoe with. Who doesn't love running around and watching all these mobs die? xD Best way to annoy ppl/mobs ever haha. All the other classes don't have the ease in which archers can solo aoe at. For example, axe fighters have high dmg, low df, low hp, so has to rely on clerics to heal them as they aoe 10+ mobs. Mages are even worse, they prob have to rely on parties constantly lv60+. Clerics can't aoe ~.~. So don't think archer's arn't good just because they are a little slow at lower levels. Once you hit lv40 start buying good green armor with end/dex to prepare yourself for solo aoe, then just enjoy having fun ^^

[phatjude16]

compare the overall skills of fighters, mages, and archers in the final lvls.. and u'll be suprised.. trust me.. entangle, etc... useless to them..

[mooooouse]

Archers tend to fail at pvp, depends on their build.
Dex Archers own the average fighter due to axes having a lack of aim but because of the whole DEX craze at the moment most fighters have better aim than they used to.
Archers are underpowered in ways but can kite, i admit archers should have more def though.
But i agree, quit complaining or make a new character.

[piggyjc]

agree with eien kiseki... get to lvl 51 and know what being an archer is all about! :P i had a lvl 60 cleric... and i stopped on him because i enjoyed being an archer more... my archer is 60 at the moment :D

[mehe20]

I think they should bring down natures mist to the 40's, like honestly its kinda ridiculous having to be a hard class for 50 levels.

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

Archers are not worse than any other class. They do not do the same thing as any other class, ergo cannot be better or worse. Stop whining about this, people; it's starting to get old.

People wouldnt be complaining if there wasnt something to complain about lol. Do fighters complain? Ive never heard one do mages complain? Sure but there isnt much. Do clerics complain? Not enough that its noticable. Do archers complain...hmm how to put it...YES!

There is something wrong...

[goldhawk2]

you know I love these threads....OBVIOUSLY the archer class needs to be adjusted...I know really REALLY good archers who say dex sucks for archers..and no matter what we say about this class there is always someone who comes out and says something that contradicts your statement =/ like "archers arent a pvp class" or "you just have to have a good build" but the ideal build for an archer apparently is 25 spr and the rest in strength, which means if you get smacked by a warrior your done...and to those who say "you can kite them" you cant run in a straight line forever...especially because of the running bug..(and I think it looks cowardly when an archer shoots and then just runs away..)

But I suppose once we get lvl 110 we wont have much to worry about (unless there is a "job change" at lvl 110 and the skills are split up) because at lvl 110 we get UBER skills..but then again..fighters have skills that can counter ours =/ like the "running technique" and the "two instant critical hits" they get =//////

But..I think its kind of ridiculous...I get snuk up on all the time..I will be innocently standing, or grinding and a fighter will come along and I will say "hey :D" and I will get stunned for like...30 minutes.. and die in 4-5 hits... FOUR TO FIVE HITS! and I am wearing TEIR 3 SCROLLS! and my build is str/end with str/end armors! so how is an archer that doesnt increase end as much as me supposed to survive out there?

[easye0121]

Archers have poisin and other periodic damage, so just suck it up -.-

[thedark17]

Archers have poisin and other periodic damage, so just suck it up -.-

yeah, archers have DoT's and they are a class I specifically look for in a party
And
Power Shot is the highest damaging skill in the game isnt it?

[goldhawk2]

ooh bravo both of you ^^ but I have a counter complaint ^^

as for the DoT's read up on it =/ DoT's dont kill people once you get to 1 hp the DoT's stop working. Also Fighters and clerics have very high health, if we cant damage high DoT's are worthless and clerics can heal and cure themselves =/

As for the powershot, it probably is the strongest skill in the game, but archers dont have the strongest weapons =/ lol that is a nice observation :P but 1 skill isnt going to turn the tide of battle....well..it is if you have low def ^^

[easye0121]

ooh bravo both of you ^^ but I have a counter complaint ^^

as for the DoT's read up on it =/ DoT's dont kill people once you get to 1 hp the DoT's stop working. Also Fighters and clerics have very high health, if we cant damage high DoT's are worthless and clerics can heal and cure themselves =/

As for the powershot, it probably is the strongest skill in the game, but archers dont have the strongest weapons =/ lol that is a nice observation :P but 1 skill isnt going to turn the tide of battle....well..it is if you have low def ^^
Well, if you poison/bone shot or whatever, then kite until it wears off, repeat and then shoot 1ce when their health is low (if you arent powerful enough use power shot, or something else, or maybe a scroll or sparkcash item to empower) he's done for....if you're talking about monsters. If you're fighting others and it isn't working damage wise or they are using heals or pots/stones too much, your just too low level and/or they have buffs and scrolls. Very good counter btw ^^

[thedark17]

ooh bravo both of you ^^ but I have a counter complaint ^^

as for the DoT's read up on it =/ DoT's dont kill people once you get to 1 hp the DoT's stop working. Also Fighters and clerics have very high health, if we cant damage high DoT's are worthless and clerics can heal and cure themselves =/

As for the powershot, it probably is the strongest skill in the game, but archers dont have the strongest weapons =/ lol that is a nice observation :P but 1 skill isnt going to turn the tide of battle....well..it is if you have low def ^^

Urm, dot's pwn the life outta everyone *clerics dont count no one likes pvp'ing them >:@*

you have like what, 3 dots? 4? thats enough to drop our health looooow, look at ZeroZone or Boomdude they are amazing archers that can pvp and pvm easily

its all about being good at an archer, most people die once complain and quit but if you actually KNOW how to use an archer they are ownage o.o

and um, most 2h or Axe Fighters have low defence, mages have low defence too. whats your point o.o

[easye0121]

Urm, dot's pwn the life outta everyone *clerics dont count no one likes pvp'ing them >:@*

you have like what, 3 dots? 4? thats enough to drop our health looooow, look at ZeroZone or Boomdude they are amazing archers that can pvp and pvm easily

its all about being good at an archer, most people die once complain and quit but if you actually KNOW how to use an archer they are ownage o.o

and um, most 2h or Axe Fighters have low defence, mages have low defence too. whats your point o.o
This makes me want to pick up an archer life xD

[goldhawk2]

well no matter where you are, you cant kite forever, and if you do kite you use your poison stuff ect. and then for 15 seconds all you can use is NM every 3 seconds...that gives fighters PLENTY of time to use pots or stones
We have 2 (good) DoT's until lvl 75 then we have 3, venom shot is a freakin double animation and it takes almost 3 seconds just to cast...but the fact is that archers dont have enough time to attack...when you use DoT's they are dandy but not too great =/ if you kite they can stone or pot, if you stand still and they have a 1H weapon then they have uber def and you stand a pretty good chance, BUT if they have an axe (honestly...who the crud uses a two handed?) then you only have so much time before your obliterated...and I have alot of END (most archers apparently hate end) and I get destroyed in like 4-5 hits (if I stone AND pot...)

[easye0121]

Truly, you can kite forever if you have a increased speed scroll.

[blackguy729]

have all of u noticed this thread is over a year old? nice necro piggyjc. x_x any way this dude^ is right i used to always use speed increase scrolls when pvping. they work as long as the person you are trying to kill is not also using a speed increase of a higher lvl

[easye0121]

have all of u noticed this thread is over a year old? nice necro piggyjc. x_x any way this dude^ is right i used to always use speed increase scrolls when pvping. they work as long as the person you are trying to kill is not also using a speed increase of a higher lvl
Hah, I'm right >:3

[goldhawk2]

LOL I never thought of speed scrols =/ nor do I know how to get them :P no one really sells them =///

But you can NOT kite forever, in order to kite successfully it calls for the right map layout, the pvp zones (FBZ 2 is pretty nice for this actually) dont really have a "kiting" area and if you run into a dead end and must turn around..here comes a big axe to your face, and your stunned...

but honestly who cares if its over a year old? the same delemas still happen....honestly nothing has changed except for the fact that when you reach lvl 85 your toast.. (as an archer) because of the UBER aim weapons....

[easye0121]

Well, maybe you should reset your production and go for scrolls. Then you could MAKE them. You can kite forever though, as long as the monster doesn't go away :P

[piggyjc]

Each class has its specialty, their strengths and their weaknesses... not all classes are meant to defeat all the other classes... playing as an archer requires a lot of tactics as far as i know... they're one of the most tactical classes in this game; hence the player must be smart enough to know what he is doing... i have defeated a lvl 50+fighter teamed with a lvl 40+ cleric before way back when i was lvl 50+... when i was 60.. two lvl 60+ fighters had to team up on me before they can beat me (that's because i was kiting them lol)..

Although i cannot really kill good fighters of the same level.. i make it to a point that they cannot kill me as well.. so we end up just having fun in an endless fight :P

so i believe the archers are made the way they are... to atleast challenge people using them to think hard before they act :P

EDIT: by the way. when i tried lvl 55-69 pvp kq... i got 5th place.. yeh its not so high.. but i manage to outdo some fighters, clerics and mages..

[phatjude16]

Urm, dot's pwn the life outta everyone *clerics dont count no one likes pvp'ing them >:@*

you have like what, 3 dots? 4? thats enough to drop our health looooow, look at ZeroZone or Boomdude they are amazing archers that can pvp and pvm easily

its all about being good at an archer, most people die once complain and quit but if you actually KNOW how to use an archer they are ownage o.o

and um, most 2h or Axe Fighters have low defence, mages have low defence too. whats your point o.o

ok.. first of all.. no offense to ZeroZone or Boomdude .. but they areheavy sc users.. next.. its pvpKQ they are good at w/c most archers are.. and i can say.. teva fighters are noob if they are pwned by archers.. try putting them in bijou/apoline i doubt they'll win.. are they even cap?

3 dots.. useless to high hp fighter w/c they are..

powershot is one of strongest skill.. but ***.. using it is suicide because u have to stop kiting..

[easye0121]

ok.. first of all.. no offense to ZeroZone or Boomdude .. but they areheavy sc users.. next.. its pvpKQ they are good at w/c most archers are.. and i can say.. teva fighters are noob if they are pwned by archers.. try putting them in bijou/apoline i doubt they'll win.. are they even cap?

3 dots.. useless to high hp fighter w/c they are..

powershot is one of strongest skill.. but ***.. using it is suicide because u have to stop kiting..There are plenty of caps in Bijou, I actually have 3 capped friends over in the academy, "GreenBean" and "Bluewave", but if you're talking about Teva, I'm not sure ;D

[graythrone]

just a little input... i solo just fine with my archer, and ive done it all the way up to lvl 44and still soloing, almost lvl 45 now. you just have to cross lvl 20s, and u can solo just fine. as for ppl who say archers cant aoe as well as mage? i say no! archers get 2 aoes they can caste while running, mist and piercing, and they can spam them alternately without caste time. Mages, while having the "best" damage aoe, having 2 sec caste time either mean they are getting hit by 5+ mobs for that time, or the mobs walked out of the aoe range... and mages don't like being hit, and they might die. aoe kitting is key for survival, in that perspective, archers do just fine aoe. again, mage for aoe damage, archer for aoe success =) btw... archers... dont try to kit in the 20~30s... you dont do enough dps, and u deal more damage just standing in place, so u kill the mob faster one on one, and u end up taking about the same amount of damage. use kiting only so u can buy time for skill CD, or just wait till all CD are finished, and spam them all on a mob... in my experience, nothing survives for more than 2 hits on u after full spamming, unless it's elite/boss mobs.

[mehe20]

Hold up their buddy, archers are awsome soloers, fast levelers and make income just by soloing. A very effecient class.

[graythrone]

just another addition... about archer's dots... first, venemous shot's double animation was fixed as of today, making it so much more useful. as for PVP, i agree, archers cant kite and poison enough to kill, but in party pvp... i bet you want to have archer in your group, so many poisons and disease, and they can go through invinciblity by cleric. archers are designed to help in parties with all their dots. PvE... i dont need to say much more... aoe Kitting FTW. unless u are where u shouldnt be... you should not die. a DD archer do more damage compare to mage single target wise on almost everything. on single target, mage has stable damage output, but archers/fighters, can have a burst of damage. while fighters does higher damage, they dont get to go ranged either. either way, it's that burst of damage that kills the mob b4 they get to you, not stable output.

[goldhawk2]

WOAH WOAH WOAH did you say what I think you said O.O""""' they FIXED a GLITCH? :D! wooh

but you said something about archers "helping out" I for one think its kinda lame that we cant pvp but we can "help" ^^ but most pvpers use their heads....and attack the archers FIRST so your not getting your face punched in by 2+ people =/

[graythrone]

you are overestimating some of them... also... if you are still not just standing in place, just drop dots and move around, i dont think they would be chasing you while fighters and mages destory them with their damage AND watch their hp drain away with dots. and, you seems to undervalue the term "help", the biggest help for archer in pvp party is their dots would keep ppl distracted, this can draw the attention of cleric while ur party pick off someone else/break their damage chain cause they want to remove your poisons and dont have that handy 3rd arm, etc, and did i mention dot works past inviciblity? let's see another class that can do that.

For ppl who dis archer dots... if you are inflicted by all of them, that's around 200 damage per sec on top of whatever damage that's done otherwise, i would hardly complain about that, especially if the archer is in a party. i do not suggest archer for solo pvp because ppl just heal like crazy. but, in a pvp party, archer's value goes up by a lot cause they can then employ power shot and aimed shot without as much worries, on top of the dots. PvE, just solo and aoe kit, however, clerics are your friend, always. enough said

[orbmew]

How do i play this game? :)

[orbmew]

this is my first post
:D

[thedark17]

ok.. first of all.. no offense to ZeroZone or Boomdude .. but they areheavy sc users.. next.. its pvpKQ they are good at w/c most archers are.. and i can say.. teva fighters are noob if they are pwned by archers.. try putting them in bijou/apoline i doubt they'll win.. are they even cap?

3 dots.. useless to high hp fighter w/c they are..

powershot is one of strongest skill.. but ***.. using it is suicide because u have to stop kiting..


You obviously dont know who boomdude is, hence that he only sometimes uses extenders :\ this guy doesnt go out buy charms+extenders to win, hes just good

[easye0121]

You obviously dont know who boomdude is, hence that he only sometimes uses extenders :\ this guy doesnt go out buy charms+extenders to win, hes just goodHe sounds great :P

[badfury]

lol i see what a archer can do. they awsome!

[paddle900]

:)Maybe the reason u want to quit using an archer is that u can't find any one to help u lvl

Yo my main is






89x Cleric

30x Fighter

20x Archer

10x Mage :D :D

[howiehowie]

POST YOUR ARCHER'S BUILD HERE:

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139050 (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139050)