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Shounen
01-17-2008, 06:09 PM
I want to see what most people have as a weapon....so do you use a hammer or a mace? I'd also like to know which is better.
oh, and you can vote for more than one thing on my poll.
bigredd22
01-17-2008, 06:38 PM
i use a mace
mainly becuz its faster atk
and it looks kool at lvl 40
also it can depend on ur build
im a pure end cleric
so i use mace
cleric with str or spr would use a hammer
its just my opinion
hazeal
01-17-2008, 06:44 PM
I did not choose any of the options in your poll. I use *both* hammer and mace and it depends on the situation which one I use at the time. This is what I posted on a similar topic here a few weeks ago:
Actually I have both a +6 mace and +6 hammer. My cleric build is a hybrid between support and battle. If I am playing with a party that has a fighter or another cleric in it I tend to use my hammer, it does *ALOT* more damage but it is also quite slow. If I am playing with a party that does not have a fighter or another cleric I use my mace while tanking since it may not do as much damage but I can get in 3 blows or more in the same time it would take me to do only 2 with the hammer. When I solo it depends on the attack speed of the monster I am fighting, if its a fairly slow monster I will go hammer if its fairly fast or I am mobbed I go with mace. The speed of the mace means that you do nearly the same amount of damage in the same time as the slower but more powerful hammer. The actual biggest difference between the two is that mace has a higher "aim" amount which means that you will miss fewer of the monsters that you go after.
Jesters
01-17-2008, 08:17 PM
I picked hammer, because that's what I'm using right now (level 32) and have used since level 20.
But I like maces better, personally. I don't think either one is better than the other, it's just a preference that depends on the player. To me, the level 40 mace is more pleasing to the eye than the hammer, and I'd rather have speed/aim than damage. But I don't like the look of the level 30 mace. (My damage fails either way, so I might as well increase my aim. XD)
scape_goat
01-17-2008, 09:18 PM
o0 i wonder why a figher is asking clerics what wep they use
lol
Shounen
01-17-2008, 11:07 PM
o0 i wonder why a figher is asking clerics what wep they use
lol
My brother is a cleric, and he's weilding a hammer at the moment so I'm just wondering what's best.
yarm483
01-17-2008, 11:16 PM
I want to see what most people have as a weapon....so do you use a hammer or a mace? I'd also like to know which is better.
I think the mace its just for pasive clerics that just luke to heal and dont fight!
Jesters
01-18-2008, 12:29 AM
I think the mace its just for pasive clerics that just luke to heal and dont fight!
...why? It may do more damage per hit, but the mace has more aim and speed, and, if enhanced, can be just as powerful damage-wise.
I try to maintain a good balance between fighting and healing, myself, and I'm switching to mace.
Laifun
01-18-2008, 03:29 AM
I use mace because it looks so cool.. the level 40 and 50 mace look cool compared to the hammer :D
MageDragonShadow
01-18-2008, 05:46 AM
I use a hammer as a hybrid cleric (+end,+spr,+str). While it is true that the above post are absolutely correct in the slow versus fast of hammer to mace, with my build and increased crit ratio, my hammer just does it faster in the long run.
Not that I wouldn't use a mace, 30 x 3 in one second is the same as 90 in one second (normal hits). I don't believe it is so much the weapon you have to consider as the relative build of character to the weapon of your choice. If your crit ratio is high.. I suggest hammer. If it is low, use the mace... Sometimes it is not quality it is quantity that wins the day.
yukijin
01-18-2008, 06:31 AM
id like to see someone actually do the math, and see which weapon would deal more Damage Per second, with bash and trip/bleed added.
-Drago-
01-18-2008, 06:37 AM
id like to see someone actually do the math, and see which weapon would deal more Damage Per second, with bash and trip/bleed added.
Exactly! We already have a lot of speculations, but we need some real evidence. See, the 2-handed sword/axe comparison already showed us that a slower weapon isn't less powerfull. I'm really eager about some maths too.
WingSword
01-18-2008, 06:47 AM
I think the mace its just for pasive clerics that just luke to heal and dont fight!
hmm definetely not true. i would like to know why u think that lol
Exactly! We already have a lot of speculations, but we need some real evidence. See, the 2-handed sword/axe comparison already showed us that a slower weapon isn't less powerfull. I'm really eager about some maths too.
yea that would be cool
ok i prefer maces
On lv20 i used hammer too thats true but on 30+ i only used maces.
ok why is that?
hmm i prefer to hit fast and dont miss. mace got higher aim u dont miss much like with a hammer.
attack rate of a mace is 1.1sec the attack rate of a hammer is 1.3sec. not a big different true but its a different of 0.2sec each hit.
and u can heal faster alone or i party when u attack too. (thats why i disagree with yarm O.o)
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XelveX
01-18-2008, 12:24 PM
For lvl 20 and 30 use hammer because you will probably have a high enough DEX to hit things your level, but as you get to lvl 40, things will be harder to hit so choose mace. Plus, soloing isn't really a good option once you hit the 40's, so you will be looking for partys in Uruga more and more.
Scarlets
01-18-2008, 03:30 PM
I prefer using a mace but I'm currently using a hammer. ^^ Reasons? It's a TK hammer, and not wanting to waste it...
smitske
01-18-2008, 04:50 PM
i just like hammers
nerdzo
01-19-2008, 01:07 AM
I use mace because it looks so cool.. the level 40 and 50 mace look cool compared to the hammer :D
and im currently holding on to lai's +8 ggk mace! ;D
IceCold333
01-19-2008, 08:32 AM
I use a hammer because my cleric is a low level, and damage is more important (to me). Plus, I can always use buffs to help my aim.
hazeal
01-19-2008, 09:47 AM
I have never bothered to do the math but I can supply what I have noticed while I have played at this current lvl.
At lvl 44 with my str and without using the bash skill I do more damage then clerics that did not add to str (keep this in mind because it means my damage numbers might not match others). I have capped my Str at 20 right now it still means that I do 24 points extra damage more than other clerics who have put no points into Str before any bonuses from Jewelry and equipment are factored in (I believe thats how it works anyways). I have been hunting red listed enemies (King Colls, Harkans, Pixies, Jr Archons, Bats, and random monsters in CP1) and doing a whopping 90-150 with a +6 lvl 40 mace and 200-300+ with crits or a 120-200 with a +6 lvl 40 hammer and 200-400+ with crits. If I use bash which is fully empowered to be as strong as it can be I get 300 as an average hit and 600 on a crit with mace and 400+ normal to 800+ with crit on the hammer.
Stats on my build (lol no you dont have to approve of how I choose to design my character but neither do I really care about your thoughts on it), this is being listed just because builds do effect our weapons:
Str: 171
Dex: 110
End: 120
Int: 87
Spr: 113
Damage range holding the +6 mace no buffs: 355-397
Damage range holding the +6 mace with Protect (4): 404-446
Damage range holding the +6 hammer no buffs: 474-524
Damage range holding the +6 hammer with Protect (4): 523-573
Stats on +6 mace: Damage 109-151 (+57 [due to the +6]*) Liscenses: Goblin Swordmen 25% extra damage, Prisoners normal 15% extra damage; aim and crits normal
Stats on the +6 hammer: Damage 201-251(+87 [due to the +6]*) no liscenses; normal aim and crits
Bash (5): 433-510 additional damage + 235 for being fully empowered
I did not get either Trip nor Bleed, most of the clerics I have talked to have talked about it not really being worth the silver to buy the skill nor the sp needed to use it.......
Hope this data helps.
*It was interesting to me that there was a difference in even how much enchanting makes with the mace and hammer. I would have assumed that a +6 enhancement would be the same no matter what the weapon type. I have looked at others weapons (fighters mostly) and found that the stronger the weapon the more the enchantment seems to do.....
>.< looking at this about 12 hours later makes me realize that I should have stated on the mace and hammer that the ranges were the normal ranges followed by the increases due to enchantment so for example it was normal range of damage of 109-151 (+57 additional damage for the +6 enhancement) and yes I do realize that most know this but some may not.
yukijin
01-19-2008, 11:28 PM
*does the math*
...
Buying tk hammer.... =(
Althia9
01-19-2008, 11:35 PM
*does the math*
...
Buying tk hammer.... =(
Oh the horror! Give it to me once ya done with it.
Shounen
01-20-2008, 06:06 PM
lol, seems like most people have and think that hammers are better
hazeal
01-21-2008, 04:27 AM
ROFL like I said in my original post I actually use the mace more though the hammer does more damage.
MageDragonShadow
01-21-2008, 08:42 AM
Okay, to keep from placing a bunch of statistical mumbo jumbo on here, suffice to say I have run a test...
I took a hammer..(no upgrade) and a mace (no upgrade). Same monster.
Using as is, the mace averaged 50-70 a hit (remember just because it says 100~150 means nothing...monster def factors in too)
Using as is, the hammer averaged 70-97 a hit. (same note)
Now, I did manage a quicker hit ratio with the mace...BUT it took 7 hits compared to 5 with the hammer.
Now then...here is the kicker...
With the mace, I can usually get the first attack..which is effective if I use bash first...OR bash and crit at same time...ooooo.
So, I have developed a quick click scheme..I initiate attack with mace..swap to hammer to finish off....is it worth the time? Probably not, but it keeps me effective at multi-tasking during battle, WHICH can help in party situations.
So, in short, no mumbo jumbo stats..just simple trial.
Hope this helps.
-Drago-
01-22-2008, 02:53 PM
Now then...here is the kicker...
With the mace, I can usually get the first attack..which is effective if I use bash first...OR bash and crit at same time...ooooo.
You know that bash has the same execution time whether you use a mace or hammer? That's one big advantage for hammers btw. ;)
(The attack speed only affects the auto-attack speed.)
togashi
01-22-2008, 04:19 PM
I dont know if is it just me or all hammers are bugged using bash. It happened when i used bash i got 2.5 times dmg more than a normal hit with a mace but with a hammer i could only do less than double of a normal. :(
flamegirl
01-22-2008, 07:18 PM
Here's my 2 cents:
I use hammer, because there arent any scrolls to help your dmg, but you can always use scrolls to help your aim. I didn't think about attack speed, but more dmg just seemed more useful to me, I thought it would be better for pvp.
Also I got told someone did the math and the diff between the mace and hammer was too small to make a difference in the long run. But thats all against monsters, again, I think hammer will be more effective for pvp. Because you ask any cleric, they can hit lots, but don't have the dmg to kill anyone, so hammer = more dmg, thus easing that problem.
yukijin
01-23-2008, 03:51 AM
hammers beat maces hands down in terms of Damage output per second.
you do not need a calculation... i killed shylphs in 9 seconds on average, with a tk +9 str +25, shylph dominator mace.
it takes usually less than 8 seconds for me to kill a shylph with a tk +9, no str, shylph killer hammer.
this does not make the hammer better, if you have a mace you have a better reaction time of heal-bashing without disrupting your DPS, which is great for duo, or just whacking to help out your AOE pt.
Alektos
01-23-2008, 06:55 AM
Aha! Nao I know why Yuki was so eager to +9 a new weapon. >.> <.< -Gave Yuki the enhancing stones that got his newest toy to +8.-
MageDragonShadow
01-23-2008, 07:06 AM
You know that bash has the same execution time whether you use a mace or hammer? That's one big advantage for hammers btw. ;)
(The attack speed only affects the auto-attack speed.)
True, but as I draw back to hit with the hammer (could be a vid error or something) I usually get hit...seems the mace attacks faster..not sure..like I said it could just be vid lag.
derking
01-23-2008, 09:37 AM
did a calculation 4 lvl 20 mace and hammer, both basic stats, nothing enhanced or something like that.
basicly on the weapons dmg and speed mace got 45 dps (= damage per second) and the hammer got about 63 dps.
in my opinion: mace aim = hammer crit
so i use hammer on my cleric. with green weapons and mass +str mace could be better, but depends on the items +stats.
just what i think :)
yukijin
01-23-2008, 10:40 AM
listen. at higher lvls, if you arent AOEing, you're gonna be attacking red mobs. you're gonna most likely MISS that mob, even with a DEX statted tk mace. so why get mace for aim if you're gonna be using aim scrolls anyways?
kiwioyster
01-24-2008, 01:36 AM
i use hammer. and i like 2 kill orange and red name mobs. this is very annoying.
"miss, miss, miss, 100, miss, 200crit, miss, miss"
i think as ur lvl get higher u should change 2 mace and do a bit of str 2 get ride of those tiny damages ;)
kraehe
01-24-2008, 02:56 AM
I love my hammer and I don't care how many people will tell me to switch over mace(yes people tell me to do that actually) I won't do that.
You can just use aim scrolls so you won't miss so much(wonder why I hardly miss even without scrolls O_o)
quatre4winner
01-24-2008, 10:28 AM
id like to see someone actually do the math, and see which weapon would deal more Damage Per second, with bash and trip/bleed added.
Hummm well i am a Lvl 45 and I would have to say it is all up to the way you set up all your stats. I use a hammer. why, so i have a better crit. i am also a pure SPR. not so good by my self but when i am in a party i almost all way have the most SP. :D
DarkAngelTsubasa
01-28-2008, 05:14 AM
I prefer using both, although I am still a level 27 sth...
I switch between both weapons during fights, depending on how well i hit the monsters ^^
Anyway, even if i did level up to 30, or to 40, 50 and so on... i will still hav the two kinds of weapons with me =)
Ridol
01-29-2008, 01:41 AM
yeah i agree that hammer do more damage, but mace can also do more dps
i dont like hammer cuz
1. dont like the slow animation, like laggy n not exciting to me
2. always miss
BEST mace is Sun Mace
if clerics want to use mace, get a green mace that has sun in front of its name
ex: sun roumen mace
they have more dmg than normal mace (aim not confirm maybe same as normal mace or higher), so total dps-miss=higer damage than hammer
i do use a sun mace and enjoy the damage when soloing
(this post may make sun mace demand increase, make me harder to find one, but i'm 31 n has spared a sun horseman flail in storage)
this is just my opinion, kindly comment if u want to
ty:D
Forfirith
01-29-2008, 01:51 AM
Until lvl30 I used both mace and hammer... after that... the diference btw the damage dealt by 1 and the other just grew.... For example... I have a mace lvl50 (green:wind) that I just know I'm not gonna use.. why? my lvl40 hammer does the double of the damage and has more crit than the mace...and its a reg hammer+4 ... now If I find something better than the hammer.. I might use.. but probably just gonna buy a reg store hammer when I reach lvl50...
ofbraindoiLack
01-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Maces are purdier. End of discussion.
Kiabosk
01-30-2008, 01:36 PM
Maces are purdier. End of discussion.
Exactly ^^
Anyways, using a mace will insure most hits land from the beginning, however when u get to the red mobs, for instance, CP, URU, AEW, FOS, well they both do well. I use hammers, and maces, but I PICK MACES, over HAMMERs. ^^ Why? cuz I hate seeing.. MISS, like 5 times unless I have scrolls, and the mace, I dont even use scrolls anymore, and they land. ^^ Plus, the slowness of the hammer, will be about equalled with multiple shots from the mace, or so I think, and EVN, if proven wrong, I STILL LOVE MY MACE ^^
kiwioyster
01-31-2008, 01:30 AM
did loads of calculations, hammer is better in every single way.
even sun mace is worse then a normal hammer
toliss
01-31-2008, 11:05 AM
i personally use a hammer because its stronger and looks awesome :D
Kaiza
01-31-2008, 12:33 PM
LoL I am proud Hammer user since i was lvl 20 ^_^ And i tried PvP 1on1 with Mace Clerics and never lost also. The weaŽk point of Maces are that they need high damage to deal high def players damage. But on mobs idk much xD I try mostly kill in time and never work with mace FOR ME. Maybe you all think different but ok^^ Just my opinion xD
Greetz Elfy
yukijin
02-01-2008, 05:53 AM
obey the lvl 7x. NAO!
csr_hal
02-01-2008, 03:54 PM
did loads of calculations, hammer is better in every single way.
even sun mace is worse then a normal hammer
do you have those calculations to share? it would be nice to see your theorycrafting ^_^
soulrukian
02-02-2008, 03:09 AM
oooo fiesta staff vs fiesta player comin up nxt tuesday on bbc 1 at 2:00pm lol
kiwioyster
02-03-2008, 12:32 AM
do you have those calculations to share? it would be nice to see your theorycrafting ^_^
oh, sorry >< i put all the calcs on paper, its 2 long, i cant b bothered copying it, and i cant find it now :D
anima2008
02-03-2008, 06:12 AM
i am gonna get a hammer reason why is im a solo cleric so i am gettin 25+spr and rest on str so with hammer i would hit massive amount of damage
i have a question can u heal when u are usin hammer or do u have to have mace on u?
Luna_Moore
02-03-2008, 02:13 PM
I voted all the above since LOL they're all true, except the last two. Mace and hammer are equal, it's been proven somewhere. It's about which you think looks cooler or better fits your style.
Ka.chan
02-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I personally love my mace. <3 Everyone chooses Hammer, it's so stupid. Maces do the same equal damage, and get a bonus of increased aim and speed. So, why even choose the hammer? You'll get hit more times, since you can't hit before the enemy does. And I hate having to wait until a hammer gets a hit. Takes forever. And you'll need tons of Aim Scrolls, if you want a hammer. Maces look way cooler, btw. ;D
Ka.chan
02-03-2008, 06:25 PM
Also, mace is better for solo clerics. Hammers are more for supportive.
kiwioyster
02-03-2008, 10:52 PM
Also, mace is better for solo clerics. Hammers are more for supportive.
o.0 i believe its the other way around...
since mace does quick accurate damage... and hammer does more raw damage and crit, thus killing the monster quicker than a mace
dericcyk
02-04-2008, 12:32 AM
First of all, a mace and a hammer are not equal, I have a lvl 40 hammer +5 with 35% harkan lic, and i can do the same damage with a lvl 40 mace +7 with max harkan lic.
Hammer has better crit, slightly lower speed, less aim, which could be easily rectified by rings, at lvl 51 i was missing prisoners slightly without my t1 power scroll, after i changed to 2 ggk rings 9 str 15 dex, which gives me 18 str 30 dex, i hit them without any misses at all. Also put in a orc license into your weapon and you can get 12% crit just from the hammer itself when you complete it.
Hammers are really more for soloers, party clerics doesn't care what weapons they get, as long as it gives them high end and spr, they should be quite fine :)
Ka.chan
02-05-2008, 04:24 PM
The Hammer and the Mace do the same amount of damage overall. A hammer is slow and useless for fighting, with a mace, you can do more damage without the enemy even touching you. And yes, Maces are faster and are more accurate which makes them even better for soloing. :3
zendragon
02-05-2008, 10:05 PM
I'm level 66 and have been using both a TK mace and a TK hammer.
I know there's been much discussion about how mace is better than hammer statistics-wise (aim, attack rate, dmg/minute, etc.) but from my personal playing experience, I've come to the conclusion that the hammer is better.
1. yes it is slower and less accurate, but at high levels, Aim scrolls are a plenty and easy fix the missing factor.
also if you get a TK hammer with +9 and a completed license, the criticals are insane and overtime outdo damage on a TK mace +9 with completed license as well.
2. Hammers allow you use Trip, once trip's stun effect is fixed ><
Seriously Bleed is inferior to Stun because if you could stun as a cleric... you could use it to escape, to buy time to heal, etc.
it'd be like a 2nd-rate invincible because while they're stunned they do no dmg to you but you still can do dmg to them.
Right now my main weapon is a TK mace +9 with orc license completed, so i get that +5% critical bonus and at level 70, I'm switching completely to hammer as my main.
Missing can be easily solved with Aim tier 2 scrolls and the slow attack speed is easily made up with the insane crit rates.
Meh, that's just my opinion, don't even have to agreed or even read my thread :)
Ka.chan
02-06-2008, 03:54 PM
I actually did the math. ^^
Overall, the Hammer does slightly more DPS than the mace.
I got an average of 84.61 damage per second on a Bat with a hammer.
And 80.9 damage per second on a Bat with a mace.
I stand corrected. x.x
kyle_infinity
02-06-2008, 04:35 PM
i use mace because at lvl 50 it is awesome and its faster
DarkShadow87
02-06-2008, 06:02 PM
I cant use 1 yet but when i hit lvl 20 im gonna use a hammer bcuz they do a little more damage then mace.
kiwioyster
02-06-2008, 11:36 PM
I actually did the math. ^^
Overall, the Hammer does slightly more DPS than the mace.
I got an average of 84.61 damage per second on a Bat with a hammer.
And 80.9 damage per second on a Bat with a mace.
I stand corrected. x.x
if the battle lasted for 1min, the hammer dmg increase dramaticaly, if its 2min, then the dmg of hammer totally pwns mace :3
btw, did u include crit?
edit: OMG mace has nearly half dmg as a hammer, hammer is only 0.2sec slower, and hammer only like 18% less accurate then mace... i think with out doing the math, we can tell which is better.(btw is also did loads of calculations)
kiwioyster
02-06-2008, 11:46 PM
2. Hammers allow you use Trip, once trip's stun effect is fixed ><
Seriously Bleed is inferior to Stun because if you could stun as a cleric... you could use it to escape, to buy time to heal, etc.
OMFG does trip do stun, OMG***BBQ! then trip pwns!!!
cleric with stun = pwn all!!!!
Yoruko
02-07-2008, 08:48 AM
if the battle lasted for 1min, the hammer dmg increase dramaticaly, if its 2min, then the dmg of hammer totally pwns mace :3
btw, did u include crit?
edit: OMG mace has nearly half dmg as a hammer, hammer is only 0.2sec slower, and hammer only like 18% less accurate then mace... i think with out doing the math, we can tell which is better.(btw is also did loads of calculations)
You can't look at the damage listed on the weapon because that hits def and is not the actual damage you see. I'd have to dig up the exact numbers but I did a test with a levle 20 hammer and mace and the hammer only did like 5-6 more dmaage per hit over the mace. Also free str favors mace over hammer. At least with the level 20 weapons and a str build mace > hammer, though I suspect at some point the damage gap will become too wide for mace's speed to make up the difference.
Kiabosk
02-07-2008, 09:31 AM
Maces are purdier. End of discussion.
HAS ANYONE BEEN LISTENING?? READ ABOVE ON MY QUOTE AND UL SEE WHY MACES ARE BETTER. ^^
Lionmaster4life
02-07-2008, 09:38 AM
First Of All If Your Build Is Str The Best Thing To Get Is A Mace And If U Are Pure End You Should Get A Hammer To Lvl It Out. This Is Great When U Solo. If U Are Pure End And Use A Mace You Will Take Forever To Kill A Monster. If Ur Pure Str And Use A Hammer You Will Use More Stones. Take It From A Guy That Has A 59 Cleric In Bijou Bye! :D
JerichoCrost
02-07-2008, 09:39 AM
Mace for me.
Lomirei
02-07-2008, 09:55 AM
mmm...
I do more dmg with my mace.
=)
yukijin
02-07-2008, 01:26 PM
the difference of damage per minute for tk +9 mace and tk +9 hammer is HUGE. you notice alot of seconds shaved off when using hammer. i have both, i compare them side by side, hammer kills them faster.
i mean, you can keep believing mace does more damage, thatll just make hammers cheaper for the people that want to kill mobs faster.
Lomirei
02-07-2008, 04:33 PM
Wow...did I say mace?
x____x
I meant hammer.
Although, my TK's not as good as yuki's.
=(
<--- only has a TK+4.
thepyrogirl
02-08-2008, 06:46 PM
it really doesnt matter.
i only use a mace cuz i got it for free and its +6...
i also have a hammer +1, but i don't use it
Once you reach level 40, it won't really matter
cuz the weapons are not maces nor hammers ;)
thepyrogirl
02-08-2008, 06:48 PM
i'd use a hammer, if it was better then my +6 mace...:)
koya_kitten
02-09-2008, 02:59 AM
Well, I use to only use a hammer, but the past week I started to train (blah took a break from training D: It gets so boring). But when I hit lvl 40 I did start to use the mace more, but not very often. Now I use both a hammer and mace. If I have a good pwr scroll in I tend to use the hammer, but if not I use the mace bc it has better aim and I miss less often. (Really no use in usen the hammer if you only get 1 outta every 6 hits when u can hit all of those with a mace lols)
dericcyk
02-18-2008, 12:07 AM
hammer all the way for the damage, when you cannot hit, try getting a pair of str dex ggk rings, they are decently priced, and you get 30 dex from there which is = 30 aim, try to find gear with dex too, as it will help you greatly
i'm using a storm morgenstern, and i'm lovin it :P
Mai-Vani-Chan
02-22-2008, 09:00 PM
Lvl 20 mace was cool, Lvl 30-40 I definetly used a hammer, and when I got to lvl 50, I will sure use that uppeerrlllyy cool mace XD
delfy
02-23-2008, 04:25 AM
I use mace because it's faster and i like speed of the attack
matty19
02-25-2008, 11:38 PM
i have used both mace and hammer and so far hammer is so much better. as a hammer user i dont really miss that much and plus i like seeing the numbers flash up from all of the criting i do, and its good in PvP u can disagree with but thats what i feel. and im almost lvl 50 and goin to be using a hammer which has good dex stats on it cant wait to use it
ayaze
02-26-2008, 12:34 AM
too much confusing comment.
Well, I'm only near lvl40, what I understand is it's not really such simple calculation.
Firstly, wat is ur base stats? Wat is ur equip str stats?
For example, check wat is ur dmg shown (with all ur equips on), maybe showing 350-500?
choose a mob, maybe yellow or red, see wat dmg u actually did on it. 100-110?
the dmg shown in your stats is about 150 difference on paper, actual difference is only 10. But tat is regards to equipment str+, for base str, it calculates differently as mentioned in many forums about disregard mob def, bla bla bla.
Sorry, im too tired to continue lol, maybe next time when im free, i'll do a breakdown on wat stats is better for mace or hammer, and it makes no difference once u hit a str limit even with ur base str+
darjpen10
02-26-2008, 12:44 AM
I want to see what most people have as a weapon....so do you use a hammer or a mace? I'd also like to know which is better.
oh, and you can vote for more than one thing on my poll.
lemme tell ya something. at lvl 20, i had a km mace and hammer, my hammer hit around 60 and my mace hit about 55. i thought that the mace was better cuz it hit constantly as the hammer hit slower then the mace. mace was the choice at the time. at lvl 30, my lvl 30 mace hit 90 and my hammer hit 130. i saw a big difference so i chose my hammer. im going hammer for the rest of the lvlls i get now.. im sure there will be bigger differences
AND becuz im the hybrid build, i crit alot with hammer making me do double the dmg of a mace, hope this helps x)
luchelle13
02-28-2008, 01:50 AM
I use hammer, if u miss just use aim scroll that helps, and hammer deals with damage.
Bjorli
02-28-2008, 01:55 AM
yup, hammer is much better if you want dmg, just use aim scrolls and you wont miss, if you like to clank tho, mace is the weapon of your choice as you would want to keep aggro easier :p
IntoYourSkin
02-28-2008, 02:09 AM
I use a hammer, but I guess most people do? Well, my cleric is just lvl28.. And I have no idea whats the best option. But I dont really care either. =p Just keep on healing.
Bjorli
02-28-2008, 02:11 AM
I use a hammer, but I guess most people do? Well, my cleric is just lvl28.. And I have no idea whats the best option. But I dont really care either. =p Just keep on healing.
I saw someone do the math, and hammer wins by far =P
Erevan
02-28-2008, 06:01 AM
If I have only plain weapons I would choose a Hammer, but I get something with stats and upgrades, I would chage to mace without remorse. In the end, the bonuses will surpass a weapon with no special qualities.
Kaiza
02-28-2008, 09:12 AM
I am Hammer Paladin, but for PvP i use Dual weapon, that mean switch them always :P for my combos ^^