View Full Version : can neo use two daggers ?
1tcnt
01-20-2008, 05:32 AM
i was wondering if neo can use two dagger left and right, or is that for rouge?
Rodaa
01-20-2008, 05:33 AM
it becomes available once you reach assasin (which is the class after rogue)
Kage_Ninja
01-20-2008, 11:51 AM
it becomes available once you reach assasin (which is the class after rogue)
well at lvl 101? since assassin is lvl96(i thought it was higher)
Babilons
01-20-2008, 11:57 AM
Yea! I also wondering, becouse there is writen in wepon discription - attack_R - I suppose its for right hand. thats mean that there somwhere have to a dagger for left hand! Isnt it?
1tcnt
01-20-2008, 04:38 PM
where can u see the skill
lumaz
01-20-2008, 04:42 PM
sweet theres dual wielding for assassin...too bad it will be like a year before i get that far
Shamusthepirate
01-20-2008, 05:02 PM
I was hoping for new weapons besides daggers xD Oh well, dual wielding weapons is still awesome.
Kage_Ninja
01-20-2008, 09:49 PM
I was hoping for new weapons besides daggers xD Oh well, dual wielding weapons is still awesome.
when you become assassin you no longer use daggers,you first get a claw to dual wield you DONT buy the same weapon to dual wield,its the same weapon but it goes to the shield slot.when you get a weapon chage it turns to what looks like a katar or a chakram.you still have the option to use a shield.
picture from solsticeplayer.com
Assassin Female
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/Pz_N-/Assassin1.jpg
Shadow Female
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/Pz_N-/Shadow1.jpg
ChaosAD
01-20-2008, 09:55 PM
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/Genesis_Genocide/Assassins.png
As you can see in that pic, the female Assassin is Dual wielding Katars(as i like to call them) I heard that you need 2 of each weapon. One goes in the normal weapon slot, and the other goes in the shield slot. But i dunno....i don't even remember where i heard this so it's probably wrong
My opinion is that Katars function as one weapon. But i've seen pics of Assassin and Shadow Masters using dagger and shield.
Kage_Ninja
01-20-2008, 10:01 PM
As you can see in that pic, the female Assassin is Dual wielding Katars(as i like to call them) I heard that you need 2 of each weapon. One goes in the normal weapon slot, and the other goes in the shield slot.
directly from solsticeplayer,this is what we can do at assassin
I looked around some more into this, and found out that left-hand and right-hand claws/daggers must be found separately. The player has a choice to equip two claws/daggers or 1 claw/dagger and a shield. The ability to dual-wield is available at level 101.
ChaosAD
01-20-2008, 10:31 PM
directly from solsticeplayer,this is what we can do at assassin
Aha! I knew i was right xD Katar + Dagger? I bet that's gonna affect attack speed. Man i can't wait!
Kage_Ninja
01-20-2008, 10:46 PM
umm the quote after that sentence was about using the same item to dual wield,reread my previous post
ChaosAD
01-20-2008, 11:33 PM
umm the quote after that sentence was about using the same item to dual wield,reread my previous post
What? Your quote said the left-hand and right-hand Daggers OR Claws have to be found individually Also it said you can equip 1 claw and 1 dagger so that pretty much proves you need 2 of each claw to dual wield.
Kage_Ninja
01-20-2008, 11:43 PM
ok i kind of misunderstood your post a bit but it seems you understand,i thought you meant you need 2 of the same weapon as in getting the weapon for the weapon slot twice other than getting the one to dual wield
Aukake
01-21-2008, 03:07 PM
w00t cant wait to Duel Wield!
Zeltar
01-21-2008, 04:17 PM
w00t cant wait to Duel Wield!
that's when we'll really start to shine! we'll also get a skill for double strike. by then we should also have 0.1 attack time.
Squires out-perform us in the 30s, scouts out perform us in the 50s, but when we become assasins they'd all better watch out!
lumaz
01-21-2008, 07:27 PM
he he nice post zeltar now i feel pumped Rawr!
Kage_Ninja
01-22-2008, 01:53 PM
can anyone post the link to the assassin solo video so it can motivate every neo player to train harder :D
Zeltar
01-22-2008, 03:46 PM
Here is some solo videos.
(note that numbers are different in xenepic, divide Dmg, HP and everything by about 10 to get equivelent in SoS)
As you can see assasin absolutely PWNS! the 4 hits at a time is the dual wielding double strike(4 hits at a time).
Assassin
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haka0001ua1.flv
Priest
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sp0002md9.flv
Paladin
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paradinge4.flv
Wizard
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wi0001vv0.flv
there are also lots of videos on youtube, check this video, it's zoomed out but it's an assasin that's hitting so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwjSqweMLto&feature=related
here is another cool xenepic video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPKhuoGR5k&feature=related
I hope this motivates all you Neophytians
sir-link
01-22-2008, 04:04 PM
bad@ss, thats so cool i knew, it realy wouldnt affect are att. speed very much coz neos.+ are nothing but speed. WOOT^^
Kage_Ninja
01-22-2008, 04:31 PM
thanks Zeltar for posting my request,now neophytes can be inspired to train more
EDIT:Hmmm for some reason the assassin video is not working,idk about the other videos i havent checked
Zeltar
01-23-2008, 01:17 AM
They work fine for my computer. Maybe you need some sort of plug-in or something. Did you try refreshing? or using a different browser?
It is interesting when you compare the assassin video to the others, in the other videos the classes get beaten up, they have to retreat and try to take on the mobs.
The paladin video shows him slowly fighting one of those huge mobs with a scythe, it takes him forever, in the assassin video the assassin solos 3 of them at once and slices through them in no time!
BTW these names are the old CB names, some class names have changed
ChaosAD
01-23-2008, 06:27 AM
Whoa the assassin video is mind blowing. I want to know what lvl was that Assassin. Obviously higher then 101 but....I just don't see how myself at lvl 54 doing 200-300 damage can actually do 2000-3000 when im lvl 101+
It just seems so far fetched. I think the Xenepic values are on a higher scale then ours....
Think about it. I have about 400 hp at lvl 54, that assassin was getting hit 300-500 by 3 mobs at a time, how the heck do we have 400 hp at lvl 54 and 1500+ at lvl 101+?
Zeltar
01-23-2008, 06:33 AM
Whoa the assassin video is mind blowing. I want to know what lvl was that Assassin. Obviously higher then 101 but....I just don't see how myself at lvl 54 doing 200-300 damage can actually do 2000-3000 when im lvl 101+
It just seems so far fetched. I think the Xenepic values are on a higher scale then ours....
Think about it. I have about 400 hp at lvl 54, that assassin was getting hit 300-500 by 3 mobs at a time, how the heck do we have 400 hp at lvl 54 and 1500+ at lvl 101+?
i think doubls strike was something like 131? so then he'd be higher than 131.
as i said in my post, the Xenepic values ate much higher than ours, they all hit in the thousands, and they have thousands of HP. my guess is that numbers are actually divided by about 10, so in the video he's hitting for 4combos of 4000, while in Sos it would be equivelent of doing 4combo hits of 400.
the same applies to the DMG the mobs do to him, they hit him for 400, that'd be the same as a mob hitting us for 40.
ChaosAD
01-23-2008, 06:48 AM
i think doubls strike was something like 131? so then he'd be higher than 131.
as i said in my post, the Xenepic values ate much higher than ours, they all hit in the thousands, and they have thousands of HP. my guess is that numbers are actually divided by about 10, so in the video he's hitting for 4combos of 4000, while in Sos it would be equivelent of doing 4combo hits of 400.
the same applies to the DMG the mobs do to him, they hit him for 400, that'd be the same as a mob hitting us for 40.
yeah that makes WAAAAY more sense. 400 damage doesn't sound super strong...especially at that level. But that speed is mind blowing!! Combine that speed with really high dodging and you have a madman!
Zeltar
01-23-2008, 06:55 AM
yeah that makes WAAAAY more sense. 400 damage doesn't sound super strong...especially at that level. But that speed is mind blowing!! Combine that speed with really high dodging and you have a madman!
the interesting thing in the video is that he barely dodged anything and only got a few crits. so i'm guessing the game mechanics has changed a lot from xenepic.
edit:
The Assasin hits 4 successive blows of 3000-4000
The priest hits for 700-800
The paladin hits for 8000-9000 on normal mobs, and 3000 on that big mob
The mage hits about 5000 on that ice creature.
I saw some pics showing they had about 2000HP.
I’d imagine the priest in SoS hitting for more than 70. although it’s all hard to tell as we don’t know the mobs amour and the players LvL. i'd imagine all classes to become significantly stronger in the 130+ region than they are now.
My guess the numbers are probably something like 5-8 times larger than the numbers we’d see in SoS at those levels.
it's quite hard to compare the games as the number scale is obviously very different. Do we have any info on how hard low LvL char hit in xenepic?
reedinaka
01-29-2008, 01:18 PM
damn now i can't wate to lvl up
ps who are the azuma ninja
Kage_Ninja
01-29-2008, 03:33 PM
ok that question was off-topic but ill answer it
The Azuma ninja is the name of the ninja clan of the 2 main characters of the game series:Tenchu.The statement is actually a quote from the game,when the boss warned the bonus 3rd character after an encounter from the previous lvl in the game to never cross swords with them as they serve Lord Godha,who is the noble lord in the game.