Censoring jesus?

[Andrewm]

why is jesus censored?

[Twenty-Nine_Rooks]

Probably because it is unfortunately used as a curse far for than as a topic of discussion or debate. It is kind of sad, but if Jesus was not blocked it would offend more often than not, I'm sure.

[madrid951]

I think because people use "Jesus" (Lord of all creation should be capitalized^^) as a swear word which is wrong, but I do not think it should be blocked because as a Christian it's sort of offending^^

[Andrewm]

Yeh thats why i posted it!

[Twenty-Nine_Rooks]

Actually, I'd like to take the opportunity to discuss some Questions and Issues that I have regarding the Chat Censor system.

First, I'll say that overall the censors work fine, and though there is room for improvemnt, I think outspark does a pretty good job with them.

I wonder why many words are blocked, most noteably words that are used by the system, like: Clam, Raccoon, and *******. My first encounter with the censor came when I asked people where I could find Clam Meat for Julia's low-level quest in Roumen. lol Raccoon blocks the Coon character string. And I legitimatly talk about *******s when I mention the Lv 50 2 handed Fighter Sword, the ******* sword.

Clam is one that could be unblocked, the vulgar referance is obscure at best. Same with "Coon", this -used as a racial slur- is outmoded and is never used anymore to my knowledge. And I would like to be able to mention the Lv 50 2-handed swords by name. I think it really might be best to change the name of that Item though.....

Also, I wonder if the Chat Filters are designed by Outspark, or if they use a 3rd party program to run them. If so, then it would be difficult for Outspark to change anything in the filters, probably because it would Violate their own Terms of Use for the progam.

Here is an idea though: If they can, why not add the web addresses of the Power leveling and Gold Purchasing sites to the Filters. Effectively making the spam you see look like this: "Buy Gold and Power Leveling at www.***********.com"

If that idea is possible, it would make it much tougher for the spammers to operate. Though the spammers could alter the character string by placing spaces and such in between the letters of the address, eventually, you could weed out most of the spammers, or at least cut way back on the amout of gold and Plvling that is traded RMT.

-- Rooks -- Lv 50x Fighter, Bijou
Guild Admin: Absolute_Zero
Member, Galactic Knights

[Andrewm]

Actually, I'd like to take the opportunity to discuss some Questions and Issues that I have regarding the Chat Censor system.

First, I'll say that overall the censors work fine, and though there is room for improvemnt, I think outspark does a pretty good job with them.

I wonder why many words are blocked, most noteably words that are used by the system, like: Clam, Raccoon, and *******. My first encounter with the censor came when I asked people where I could find Clam Meat for Julia's low-level quest in Roumen. lol Raccoon blocks the Coon character string. And I legitimatly talk about *******s when I mention the Lv 50 2 handed Fighter Sword, the ******* sword.

Clam is one that could be unblocked, the vulgar referance is obscure at best. Same with "Coon", this -used as a racial slur- is outmoded and is never used anymore to my knowledge. And I would like to be able to mention the Lv 50 2-handed swords by name. I think it really might be best to change the name of that Item though.....

Also, I wonder if the Chat Filters are designed by Outspark, or if they use a 3rd party program to run them. If so, then it would be difficult for Outspark to change anything in the filters, probably because it would Violate their own Terms of Use for the progam.

Here is an idea though: If they can, why not add the web addresses of the Power leveling and Gold Purchasing sites to the Filters. Effectively making the spam you see look like this: "Buy Gold and Power Leveling at www.***********.com"

If that idea is possible, it would make it much tougher for the spammers to operate. Though the spammers could alter the character string by placing spaces and such in between the letters of the address, eventually, you could weed out most of the spammers, or at least cut way back on the amout of gold and Plvling that is traded RMT.

-- Rooks -- Lv 50x Fighter, Bijou
Guild Admin: Absolute_Zero
Member, Galactic Knights


Nice ideas!! if outspark put those in this game would be better =D

[smitske]

well the filters are rather bad, but there are bigger problems.

[Suna_]

After certain words you can't say "Class". Like "what class are you?" or "where is my class master?"

but you can say sexy.

You learn to play without some words. If anything just have a theological discussion in the forums, rather than in the game server XP.

[khchoy3]

class, hourglass, assessment -words with the word 'a**' in it that should not be censored

[XpierulesX]

I PM'ed Dakkon a while ago in-game about 'clam' and he said it could be linked to sexual reference o.o. I'll clam you up o.o.

[HateUchiha]

I PM'ed Dakkon a while ago in-game about 'clam' and he said it could be linked to sexual reference o.o. I'll clam you up o.o.

lol, yea..this games ''vocabulary'' is kinda.....ya know..


lost of words should be change around, and took off censor.

[XpierulesX]

Maybe Clam means scr3w you in Korean o.o

[Ryoshin]

Jesus.. is understandable..but why is Satan not blocked?

[clanxp]

wheres the fun when u block Satan....xD

[Jhanniss]

I PM'ed Dakkon a while ago in-game about 'clam' and he said it could be linked to sexual reference o.o. I'll clam you up o.o.

Think inuendo. End of discussion. :P

[GuitarPlayer]

LOL! Jesus, Clam and a few others are censored. Weird censorship. Maybe they'll update it.

[Knifey]

Nice thread phrasing by the way, double entendre, very funny. I think the most annoying is class having the *** end censored out of it. But I understand censoring Jesus, i think there is no other option. I would rather see it hashed out 100% than to see it used everywhere as a curse word. and satan is not blocked because people dont use it as a curse word. it's not about removing religion from the game it's about removing cursing. you would think Damn would be censored though if crap is. I mean crap is what you say instead of s***, it's like the clean version of a curse word so in that respect Damn is a worse curse word than crap. I dont understand the silly swear filter sometimes.

[tarugo]

I have not tried it yet, but is the word "God" censored? If not, this takes higher precedence than "Jesus".

[ToorimaKun]

for now im confreted by the fact that the filter is all messed up... maybe with a better fileter they can unfilter alot of that... but even with better filters some mested up filtering accurse.

[madrid951]

I PM'ed Dakkon a while ago in-game about 'clam' and he said it could be linked to sexual reference o.o. I'll clam you up o.o.
ROFLMFAO!!!I LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN I SAW THIS LOL!! And how does dakkon know it has some sexual reference??....I thought he was a little 13 yr old

[XpierulesX]

You have to be 18 to be a GM... o.o

[smitske]

ye GM is a paid job, it also includes scripting/texturing/etc.

wat does clam mean then??

[madrid951]

LOL!!..I KNOW!!, I KNOW!! It doesn't have a lot to do with sexual preference, It just means the female organ [AKA] Taco... pretty creepy (not to me) o_O;;

[Andrewm]

To clear this up ive never seen jesus used a curse word but i have seen it used when people are mad "JESUS CHRIST!!" or something like that still i dont understand clam, ive searched everywhere for something sexual relating to clam and i havent found anything o.o

[Serric]

To clear this up ive never seen jesus used a curse word but i have seen it used when people are mad "JESUS CHRIST!!" or something like that still i dont understand clam, ive searched everywhere for something sexual relating to clam and i havent found anything o.o

Given the fact that some religions find the usage of the Lord's name in vain to be an insult, the name is blocked - this is merely my speculation.

As for the other, I will let you figure that one out. I would ask everyone, however, to keep from posting sexually explicit posts on these forums - not that anyone has, and I thank you all for that, but I still feel the warning is warranted given the topic at hand

[Mikencloud]

I found that to be silly aswell

[KnightOfTruth]

True. At first I was offended that you couldn't use the name of God (Jesus), but I suppose since others use it as a "swear" (or at least what they say when they stub their toe on the corner of their computer desk on the way to playing Fiesta at the wee hours of the night) it's understandable. Understandable yes, appreciated, no.

Nevertheless, I suppose if the topic of salvation or creation ever needs to be addressed there's always PM's, Emails, IMs, or forum-chats right?

May Jesus (or J****) keep us all! :)

Happy Fiesta-ing.

P.s. I also feel the annoyance at not being able to ask "what class is your other character", but hey, everyone knows what we mean, so for all those who appreciate the "family-friendly" environment I'll leave my complaint as such.

[XpierulesX]

The thing let's you say A-hat o.o

[Twenty-Nine_Rooks]

OK, I'm undecided as to whether "Jesus" should be cencored. Idealistically, I don't think it should be at all, but realistically I know it would be used to offend people and it would just cause so many problems..... So, I can really see both sides of the argument here.

[Shounen]

OK, I'm undecided as to whether "Jesus" should be cencored. Idealistically, I don't think it should be at all, but realistically I know it would be used to offend people and it would just cause so many problems..... So, I can really see both sides of the argument here.

I agree, there are a few sides to this. I think that having 'Jesus' censored can be useful, because it is normally used by people in anger (like swearing) and may cause more problems if it isn't. But i also feel (as a christian) that 'jesus' should not be censored, because it is quite offensive in making 'Jesus' such a bad figure. It makes 'Jesus' equal with other swear words such as 'S***' or 'F***'.

[Knifey]

Given the fact that some religions find the usage of the Lord's name in vain to be an insult, the name is blocked - this is merely my speculation.

yes i think when you say you've never heard it used as a curse word, you dont know what a curse word is. a curse word is not just something used as an adjective or noun it encompasses anything profane. profanity is just another word for "curse word". if you look up profane on dictionary.com the first definition is:

1) characterized by irreverence or contempt for God or sacred principles or things; irreligious.

Do you understand why it's blocked NOW Andrewm?

[Serric]

After reading the comments in this thread a few times I have one question: in what instance is the name "Jesus" being used when people are noticing it is censored?

"Let's take a moment to talk about Jesus"

or

"**** I Died!!!"

?

If it is more often the latter, then you know why it is censored. It is offensive to many to use the Lord’s name in vain and especially as a swear. Now, that is not to say it is my religious belief, personally, but be that as it may, I still respect the belief and feelings of others and refrain from using it at all.

There is merely one speculation as to why it is censored. In truth, if you want to get to the bottom of it, you should PM CSR_Cretz and get his opinion on the issue.

Edit: Knifey must have posted at the same time as I did. LOL

[Shounen]

I'm sort of leaning to that 'jesus' should not be censored. To me, having 'Jesus' a bad enough word to be as equal as 'S***' or 'F***' seems to offend me more.

[Knifey]

because to a lot of people abusing that name is worse than s*** or f***. why cant people understand that?

[silksilk]

i still think its uncalled for Christian propaganda, sorry mates if i have offended anyone.

[Serric]

We're getting into murky waters here and I have to reel it in. Continue the discussion along the lines of the topic, but please do not take us into a theological debate concerning the validity of one religion over another. At that point I will have to pull the plug.

Sorry folks.

[Shounen]

because to a lot of people abusing that name is worse than s*** or f***. why cant people understand that?

Look, you don't know what I'm saying. I said SAYING 'jesus' should not be censored because it makes 'Jesus' look clean, not censored or bad. I'd rather not have Jesus' name soiled with asterisks. If you are ABUSING that name, then yes, it can be very offensive to people such as myself and that's when asterisks can come in handy. But censoring 'jesus' can also be a problem, because it can cause people to think 'dude, i never heard of jesus in my life but i can tell that he must be a very bad person because his name is censored, just like any other bad words' it can give people who don't know him and don't know why he's censored a bad first impression.

And also, i said that i'm leaning on both sides. Abusing 'jesus' can be as bad as s*** to some people, but what i mean is that using 'jesus' seriously, should not be censored.

What i'm really trying to say is, censoring jesus can cause great confusion, especially if you don't know why it's censored. It simply gives 'jesus' a bad name, and i think that they shouldn't censor it like as if that 'jesus' is a horrible figure.

[MewMewLina]

Speaking about religious censoring, they censored jew. Me being a jew, I am offended by that. They didn't censor Christian or anything else, but they censored jew. Now I know it can be used to flame, but that's like calling someone a blonde.

[tarugo]

Actually, the word "Jesus" itself should not be censored. It is a common name. Used also as a common expression like "By Jove!" (Doctor Who's expression from Tom Baker era).

However, if adding "Christ" on the word Jesus, of course becomes a matter of religious perspective.

So it is incorrect to censor "Jesus" based on religious conformities alone. Otherwise, "Muhammad" should also be censored and none now can reply "Peace be upon him" to whoever utters this name.

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In addition, censoring the word "Jew" is in itself, pushing the filter to far. The word denoting Jewish people is no different from Brit. If it is because it can be used like "You f**ing Jew", then this can be denoted also like "You f**ing Brit". So if Jew is censored because of that, might as well censor all the anomorphic racial classifications from "Malay", "Russkie", "Chezk", "Frenchie", "Pinoy", "Finn", etc... etc....

[Serric]

Actually, the word "Jesus" itself should not be censored. It is a common name. Used also as a common expression like "By Jove!" (Doctor Who's expression from Tom Baker era).

However, if adding "Christ" on the word Jesus, of course becomes a matter of religious perspective.

So it is incorrect to censor "Jesus" based on religious conformities alone. Otherwise, "Muhammad" should also be censored and none now can reply "Peace be upon him" to whoever utters this name.

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In addition, censoring the word "Jew" is in itself, pushing the filter to far. The word denoting Jewish people is no different from Brit. If it is because it can be used like "You f**ing Jew", then this can be denoted also like "You f**ing Brit". So if Jew is censored because of that, might as well censor all the anomorphic racial classifications from "Malay", "Russkie", "Chezk", "Frenchie", "Pinoy", "Finn", etc... etc....

You may have a valid point. Have you PM'd CSR_Cretz with this to see his reaction? I do believe this falls within his realm...

[tarugo]

I have not mailed any CSR nor CSR Cretz. Maybe someone from the mods can highlight this to the CSR team. :)

[Knifey]

You may have a valid point. Have you PM'd CSR_Cretz with this to see his reaction? I do believe this falls within his realm...

LOL this is not an expression to say Jesus as akin to by jove! That is still profanity. It is still referring to Jesus Christ whether you say Christ or NOT! Just like Christ by itself does not mean Jesus Christ, it's still profane because it's referencing Jesus Christ!

because it can cause people to think 'dude, i never heard of jesus in my life but i can tell that he must be a very bad person because his name is censored

And if it was not censored do you think they would hear it for the first time in the game as "Lets take a minute to talk about Jesus" or "JESUS! GGK IS HUGE!" to paraphrase somebody's earlier thread :D And if they have never heard of Jesus before they wouldnt be typing it into chat in the first place.

[Serric]

I have not mailed any CSR nor CSR Cretz. Maybe someone from the mods can highlight this to the CSR team. :)

I have PM'd Cretz and asked him to review the thread and give us his prefessional opinion. It won't happen right away but he's pretty good about following up.

So now we wait. :D

[Knifey]

cretz all i ask is for you to look up profane in the dictionary and see if you think using jesus as an expression of surprise or angst etc fits the definition of profane.

[tarugo]

LOL this is not an expression to say Jesus as akin to by jove! That is still profanity. It is still referring to Jesus Christ whether you say Christ or NOT! Just like Christ by itself does not mean Jesus Christ, it's still profane because it's referencing Jesus Christ!

I'm going to bluntly point out your misconceptions here. I've debated this topic in my theological classes during college and proved that "Jesus" is not the same as "Jesus Christ".

a) Jesus is a PROPER NOUN. Typically, Jesus is the same as Tom, Rick and Harry.

b) "Christ" is taken from the Greek word, Christos to mean:

1) The Divine One (based on Christan etymology)
2) The Anointed One (in Greco parlance)
3) In Hebrew (colloquially misreferred as Yiddish), Saviour/Liberator, Coming King (Messiah):

3A) In Buddhism, this was a akin to that of "Redeemer".
3B) Denotes the restorer of faith (Shiite context)


I have a co-worker named "Jesus" Ramsey. Is my co-worker now the saviour of human-kind?

My friend's wife gave birth to a baby boy and named him "Jesus". Is this child now the 2nd coming?

If not, are they now blashpeming the name of the Lord and taking it in vain as indicated in Deuteronomy 5:6–21

"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name."

Of course not! The problem here is some Christians have DECONTEXUALIZED and MISCONSTRUED the name Jesus = Christ. When in fact, one needs the other term in order to denote the CORRECT context of Christian defintion.

Jesus = common name
Christ = TITLE (refer to Section B)

e.g. Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus = The Annointed One, Jesus or Jesus The Anointed One....

Now if both of these people called themselves: "Jesus Christ" now the above commandment applies.

Read Matthew 16:16 I quote: "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God"

Now let's read that again, "You are CHRIST". It did NOT say: "You are Jesus, the Son of The Living God".

Let's repeat that again from the Bible itself: "You are CHRIST". The Bible did NOT say "You are Jesus, The Son of the Living God". The Christ subject was predicated by the phrase: "The Son of the Living God"

So Christ = The Son of the Living God (based on Christian parlance).

Let's read again another passage denoting Section B:

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end! He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this!" (Isa. 9:6-7)


Are these terms = "Jesus"? or are they = "Christ"?

Let's get another passage as a fulfillment of the above passage of the prophet IsAiah:

"The angel of the Lord said to the shepherds, "I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord." (Luke 2:10,11)

Did it say: "Jesus The Lord"?? Let's analyze again: Saviour is born... what was the reference for Saviour? Oh yes... Christ The Lord.



So the CORRECT TERM to use is: "Jesus Christ" and not "Jesus" where the latter is a disambiguation passed down from one generation to the next. A terrible folly that still exists today clearly evident in this forum and in the game itself.

Where did the word "Christian" originate? Was it from the word: "Jesus" or was it from the word: "Christ"?

It doesn't take a primary/elementary 1 student to answer this.


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And if it was not censored do you think they would hear it for the first time in the game as "Lets take a minute to talk about Jesus" or "JESUS! GGK IS HUGE!" to paraphrase somebody's earlier thread :D And if they have never heard of Jesus before they wouldnt be typing it into chat in the first place.


Again, this is how incredelously misconceived the term was. This is due to the fallacious disambiguation passed down from one gen to another. The use of "Jesus" in itself is not blasphemous. It is when adding the word "Christ" to this name that changes the entire context of the said word(s) or simply "Christ".

[Hollocus]

Very interesting topic.

I'll just say I don't really believe in censorship at ALL, but I understand why it is in place....there are many different people from all over the world playing Fiesta, so I'd imagine it must be hard to manage which words are considered to be offensive.... as part of a "Western" and "Secular" culture, it takes a lot to really offend me. If it were up to me, there would be no censorship....but I can see how it can run into problems, especially if people start throwing around religious/racial slurs, which are just simply unacceptable.

Such a grey area, and everyone is going to have a different opinion about what is considered "offensive" and what isn't. The word "clam" though?! I just find that hilarious that it is actually censored! XD

[TheCretz]

Hello Everyone!

Thank all of you for your concern and feedback regarding the current censorship system. We have received many reports and ideas from the community and we sincerely appreciate every single one received. There are plans to implement various improvements to Fiesta, and one of these will be a censorship revision. We understand how frustrating it can be having your words censored when many words by themselves should not warrant such action. Please bear with us as such improvements take time, and stay tuned to the News/Announcements section of the forums for any upcoming changes.

Thank you!

CSR_Cretz

[catagon]

dude, just say Jeez if u want to say jesus. What i would like to know is y coon is banned. its just an abbrviation for raccoon, and i told a friend of mine that a cute coon u got and it got blocked lol

[Shounen]

LOL this is not an expression to say Jesus as akin to by jove! That is still profanity. It is still referring to Jesus Christ whether you say Christ or NOT! Just like Christ by itself does not mean Jesus Christ, it's still profane because it's referencing Jesus Christ!



And if it was not censored do you think they would hear it for the first time in the game as "Lets take a minute to talk about Jesus" or "JESUS! GGK IS HUGE!" to paraphrase somebody's earlier thread :D And if they have never heard of Jesus before they wouldnt be typing it into chat in the first place.

typing to chat in the first place?? All a person could do to get the wrong idea is hearing someone go '*****, **** you noob' and then hearing him say again 'J esus, fk you noob (not to jesus, but to a noob)' to get the first impression of the wrong idea that jesus is something to swear on. It can cause great confusion to people and make them learn something such as:

Jesus is a swear word (and NO, this name itself is NOT a swear word! It depends on how you use it, but the person wouldn't know becaues he may never really have heard 'Jesus' before, therefore he would naturally assume that 'Jesus' itself is a swear word without realizing that it's censored not for the name itself, but on how you use it, e.g. abusing that name makes it censored, not the word itself).

For e.g. people like us might not know what 'coon' means or why it's censored, but we now assume it's something bad.

But what about 'jesus'?? Do the people who don't know him naturally assume it's something bad? Yes they would, and most wouldn't care at all why it's censored (except for andrew), but they just assume that anything to do with jesus is bad.

And also, because some of us don't know why coon is censored, coon could have been a person (just an example). This can be that to some who don't know 'jesus' to think that 'jesus' could have been a verb or a swear word, like we assume coon to be. This may be the effect of censoring, makes us think that things are naturally just bad because it's censored.

[Knifey]

"Jesus" is not the same as "Jesus Christ".

I was not trying to imply it was? My point was that in the context, they were referring to Jesus Christ, not that everybody named Jesus is devine. if you seriously dont see that people say Jesus as a derivative of profanity then I have nothing to rebut.

dude, just say Jeez if u want to say jesus. What i would like to know is y coon is banned. its just an abbrviation for raccoon, and i told a friend of mine that a cute coon u got and it got blocked lol

okay you're incredibly naive. so here's a helpful hint for you why dont you use urbandictionary.com and you wont have to ask people what the dirty things they say mean.

[Roseanna]

okay you're incredibly naive. so here's a helpful hint for you why dont you use urbandictionary.com and you wont have to ask people what the dirty things they say mean.
Thanks Ghan - I'm gonna give that link to my non-native-English-speaking husband so I can stop having to explain all this stuff to him now. :o :D

[madrid951]

Hey Andrew!! Andrew!! say it again!! LMAO "I'll calm you up" LOL Say it again, come on SAY IT!! LOL

[ryuenu]

ok to try to clear things up a bit ...(and hoping to not get in to trouble)... 1 coon is in the south an old derogatory term used to denote a person of african desent...2 clam is a slang refering to female genitalia usually used with the word 'bearded' being from the south i grew up hearing these terms used by my peers quite often thus the reason as to why they would be censored is reasonalbe to me and sorry to all of my christian players in fiesta i can see why jesus or Jesus however it may be typed would be blocked so as not to offend any non christians who might be playing due to the fact that our society has chosen to adopt the idea that it is better to be politicly correct than to be sued over what you may believe in...

[Knifey]

offend non christians? lol......

[MewMewLina]

Jesus is a PROPER NOUN. Typically, Jesus is the same as Tom, Rick and Harry.

b) "Christ" is taken from the Greek word, Christos to mean:
3) In Hebrew (colloquially misreferred as Yiddish), Saviour/Liberator, Coming King (Messiah)

Totally agree! I say "Oh, Jesus Christ.." all the time like "Oh, lord, help me!"

[tarugo]

I just did a test.

The following are not censored:

a) God
b) Allah
c) Jehovah

Yet the common name, "Jesus" is censored. Hmmmm.....

[ryuenu]

it could be because god allah and jehovah all translate into the same meaning in different languages not belief systems where as jesus is specific to christianity thus why it is blocked and the others are not ....and knifey some poeple do get offended when they are not christians because they are tired of christians trying to force their beliefs on them as is required by the bible through the act of testifying to them on how they are wrong and christians are right ....or so they believe

[tarugo]

Well Jehovah is tied up to Christianity and Allah is to Muslims... so why only the common name Jesus? I'll see if Mohammed (PBUH) or Muhammad (PBUH) is NOT blocked. If Jesus is blocked, so should these names,

[ryuenu]

i think you missed what i was saying yes Jehovah is tied to Christianity and Allah to Muslim but in their native language they mean God so if i type God in English a translator program will change it to Allah in Muslim or Jehovah in Hebrew where as Jesus means Jesus no matter what language its in thus how Jesus might offend someone of a different religion

[Kraehe]

Wait, why can you say 'Hell' but you cannot say 'Jesus' or 'Christ'? >.>

[sprague]

well the games all messed up anyways
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[catagon]

I was not trying to imply it was? My point was that in the context, they were referring to Jesus Christ, not that everybody named Jesus is devine. if you seriously dont see that people say Jesus as a derivative of profanity then I have nothing to rebut.



okay you're incredibly naive. so here's a helpful hint for you why dont you use urbandictionary.com and you wont have to ask people what the dirty things they say mean.

a whole dictionary just for swear words? ...wow

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Of course, the simple solution would be an option to turn the filter off.

[theoneptd]

jesus is reffered as a swear word int he filter context. It has nothing to do with the religious aspect of things.

Just abbreviate things. You'd be amazed at what things you can get away with saying. A lot don't know the abbreviations and all in all, you make yourself feel better.

[Hirochihachi]

a whole dictionary just for swear words? ...wow

No, more for regional slang terms, also used to define internet slang/acronyms. Go check it out, you'll get what I mean.

[Serric]

After watching an ungodly amount of Metalocalypse, I have come to the determination that "geezy" is an appropriate subsitute. LOL

[theoneptd]

I like to use jeebus. Don't know why. have done it in games for years.

[Hirochihachi]

I like cheese'n'rice meself. ^^

[EchoSound]

Wait, why can you say 'Hell' but you cannot say 'Jesus' or 'Christ'? >.>

I wanna know more why you can say satan instead XD

You can say "Satan" you can say "Hell" and you can say "Damn"... but not Jesus or Christ. That amuses me to no end.

I can understand why some of these words are filtered, and others not... really I don't think christans should take offense to people using jesus as a curse. Its only the spin on it that makes the word bad. Something like George Carlin said, actually. And excuse me for the swearing I'm about to do, but its an example and not meant to offend or break rules. Like "Holy f*ckin sh*t!" is something to exclaim your surprise, as well as an exclamation of "jesus christ". You were either wowed or scared witless by someone or something, and not exactly cursing but showing your emotions through words.

>_> But what about the people named Jesus? As in Latino's... they can't say their name in game, because its filtered. lol

[Ferria]

I'll just stick to "NYAAA" =D

[Andrewm]

haha i figured out what clam means

[Serric]

Because of the fact that the CSRs are looking into this and the thread itself has been debated to a standstill, I am closing the thread. Please feel free to continue your dicussions via PMs but let's hold off on these topics on the open forums for a while.

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