Collision members during kq

[heavensraven]

to start this off, it was during a spider kq, in which we sadly and surely failed. As most high levels know, its either a good kq or a running kq. ours was a running one somehow, and these two collision members were the most annoying and depressing bunch ever. They had no clerics in thier party and started calling everyone idiots and stupid for not sending them one. first off, how can we when the mobs were loose everywhere? the runner for our kq died numberous times, and clerics were dying and rezing each other. Those 2 people were complaining and really making the kq look bad from start to finsh. They said things like there just going to stay dead, this is a noob kq, and things like there waiting to fail, while the rest of the group tried thier best to make sure we passed. near the end of the kq, there started thier complaining and whining again and calling everyone asses. -.- people in that kq saw this and near the end those 2 members were arguing with everyone around. how we can possibly pass when 2 people are constantly complaining...?

[joecracker]

hey dude, i sell u some nice green cleric pants?

[heavensraven]

lol how much?

[XpierulesX]

I wouldn't mess with them o.o

[heavensraven]

lol im not scared of no guild, its all a game to me =)

[Terranwolf]

Do you have a screenshot or remember their names? I kinda doubt this unless everyone was acting unorganized.

[heavensraven]

yes i remeber the names, we were organized the first 10 mins, then we got mobbed. while everyone was trying to organize themselves, they just kept shouting and giving everyone else less hope of a passing kq, plus thier constant ranting.. eveyrone just kind of gave up..

[Terranwolf]

Well, who were they?
Still just sounds like frustration from no organization to me. :)

[Efyrts84]

Lmao this is hilarious.

First of all. Its simple frustration, and it happens alot, when parties are formed incorrectly. Be it a lack of organization, or perhaps an uneven party. If there multiple clerics, and a party wasn't given one, and they know because of that, something will go wrong, I believe its natural.

Second of all, the KQ didn't fail because of them requesting for a cleric, the KQ failed because there was a lack of organization, which caused the frustration. Now, I admit it was wrong for the name calling, and it was unnecessary, however, it happens when a KQ goes wrong, especially for something that could have been avoided.

Lastly..and this is the funny part for me. It's ironic how you're here, complaining about people complaining about something in game? Hm..interesting.

[heavensraven]

hmm iono i just wanted to post here cuz i wanted to maybe? lol..... and i never said it failed cuz of them lol...reading much?? there would be no point in adding a cleric into thier party since everyone was already dying and any clerics alive were rezing anyone near.

[Efyrts84]

hmm iono i just wanted to post here cuz i wanted to maybe? lol..... and i never said it failed cuz of them lol...reading much??


how we can possibly pass when 2 people are constantly complaining...? <-- lol


there would be no point in adding a cleric into thier party since everyone was already dying and any clerics alive were rezing anyone near.

Lmao. No point.. Oh really? This is really amusing XD

PS: I apologize if I seem like I'm condescending you. ^^ I assure you that you're not, and I apologize on behalf of them for saying such. However, you also need to understand where they're coming from. You acting the way you are solves nothing, truly.

[heavensraven]

i agree with you :)

[MrSlashy]

May i have the names of the two people? I would like to know. Thank you very much.

[Kaiza]

You guys are funny. If there are 5 CLerics in KQ and no1 wanne join the PT from my guildies then i think its normal that they dont want make suicide, because of Cleric greedy people or not? I mean a Party without Cleric in KQ.... Its normal that people will share them or not? I do also always before. I organized MANY MANY MANY DAMN MANY KQs before and people never had problems. But now people are too selfish even to share them...

Its so easy to quit a party and join an other, but why people cant organize that small thing? Tell me that threat starter....

I think this wasnt incorrect what WE did, but what the other PTs did.

[MewMewLina]

You guys are funny. If there are 5 CLerics in KQ and no1 wanne join the PT from my guildies then i think its normal that they dont want make suicide, because of Cleric greedy people or not? I mean a Party without Cleric in KQ.... Its normal that people will share them or not? I do also always before. I organized MANY MANY MANY DAMN MANY KQs before and people never had problems. But now people are too selfish even to share them...

Its so easy to quit a party and join an other, but why people cant organize that small thing? Tell me that threat starter....

I think this wasnt incorrect what WE did, but what the other PTs did.

I have one thing to say to you.

CLERICS ARE NOT TOOLS.

[pender]

kq fail cause of u idiot ^^
not cause of collison

[Kaiza]

I have one thing to say to you.

CLERICS ARE NOT TOOLS.

1. Truth no tools, but they hav to THINK about themself if they should HELP peeps with NO clerics....

2. Peeps should PM our Master/Admins before make some BS on Forums, to solve problem...

I think thats enough

[heavensraven]

there wasnt a problem to solve in the first place, i was just venting out my frustration out and its not bull**** since im not lying about anything in the first place now am i? :)

ps if you dont like what your seeing then why bother looking in here the first place? :)

[Kaiza]

there wasnt a problem to solve in the first place, i was just venting out my frustration out and its not bull**** since im not lying about anything in the first place now am i? :)

ps if you dont like what your seeing then why bother looking in here the first place? :)

***. I hate people who make out guild bad... And you should talk to admins or leader before making such i think.

Btw, WE didnt any bad. Its because other cant organize, then its normal that people complain or not? Then dont feel free to help others and be greedy.

At all other KQs i was inside before EVERYONE felt to join other Party to help them. but this KQ generation is not fine anymore i think. Sorry tosay that, but its only that what i feel

[kenpoluvr]

HAHAHAHA. This is tooo funny that you had to create a thread about this. Yes I was in the KQ and I complained. I was even called a bish by some ignorant folks. If you can't handle the feedback from my guildies then don't post about it. I think most that have read this understands that a full KQ should make up 3 full parties. When 5 clerics in KQ that means that there was a party with at least 3 clerics and 1 with prob 2. We asked from the START for a cleric and noone would join. Is those peoples fault that the KQ failed. Now just get over it will ya? Geez

[heavensraven]

i did get over it lol. someone is just continueing this thread :)

[Kaiza]

i did get over it lol. someone is just continueing this thread :)

Then next time go PM Admin/Master from us about such and dont make such threats >_>

[Asheer]

For the begining...

There is NO RULES that all parties durring KQ should have clerics.

Party quality depends how fast someone who decide to become a party leader send invitation and after final form of party it is rare when somebody decide to change for other party.
By the way clerics are not permanent bound to his own parties and can heal anybody who need help but from what i read i can assume that whole sytuation was so bad(because of complains) that all get out of hand.

I observe sometimes how my sis do KQs and usually she have ben healed by cleric from other parties if for example there was no cleric from her party in field of sight.

KQs are GROUP mission not indywidual action and when all is doing under time pressure its very easy that because one or two players who start act against rest entire KQ can become a disaster even if quality of all participants in the begining could tell something diferent.

I am sure if from begining complaining players move on front of KQ and start making thier job and i am sure they will be healed even if they not have cleric in his own party not complain because of this entire sytuation will look completly diferent.

Please remember KQ is mission for 15 players who should support eachothers not for three 5 players group acting independent from rest participants.

If some of CLs read this i will ask to consider close this thread because he is on good road to turn in another flame war (but this is only my humble suggestion ;))

[heavensraven]

if you read carefully i didnt make any threads unless im wrong :) im not trying to turn this into a flame war people are just continuing a thread :)

[Terranwolf]

if you read carefully i didnt make any threads unless im wrong :) im not trying to turn this into a flame war people are just continuing a thread :)

Maybe not a threat, but you are trying to put down a highly reputable guild.
Anyway, this thread is just a flamewar, so might be closed soon.
Please, make no further posts.

[Asheer]

Well...

If you dont make any exeptios about posting thats mean you start a new thread :).

I learn from experience that thread started whit good intentions could become very fast flame thread when other side have no counter arguments to backed thier own version of events and that is all what i write ;).

[Asheer]

Maybe not a threat, but you are trying to put down a highly reputable guild.
Anyway, this thread is just a flamewar, so might be closed soon.
Please, make no further posts.

Forgive me but for now every negative posts are come from side of your gulid not from him.

[kenpoluvr]

Sorry I can't stop laughing you are all toooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice rationalizing, as long as you believe what you say that is all that matters. I am so glad someone told me you wrote this, was good for a laugh.

[heavensraven]

why are you continuing this thread -.- thats what i want to ask you LOL.

[lordalden]

Alright. This thread has gone on enough in the flaming, trolling, and downright disrespectful posts. I saw this thread earlier today and let it go because it wasn't a problem. Now it is. Please in the future use more discretion for your posts and what words you use, and the tone implied in them. We must continue to all set a good example for future users, and that starts with us, the players.

-L.A.