Fiesta Police Departament

[Asheer]

Because Dakkon or any of GM cannot be 24/7 online to maintain order i will sugest creation of

FIESTA POLICE DEPARTAMENT

Created similar to other Guilds but whit restriction to 20 members

Whit rights to :

1: Bot's imprisoning for 7 days.
2: Ban gold spammers.(this is easy to achieve without any doubts)
3: Imprison for 48 hours players training other players.
4: In case of KS'ers after third proven accusation imprison for 24 hours.
4: Investigate any accusations over GW abuses.(and if necesary send abusers for 48 h to prison whit extendet time to 7 days after proven another GW crime).

I belive that in all 3 servers egsist people who are worthly trust in this matter(CLs selections are good example).

Draft roster should consist :

1. Age.(i will suggest over 18-like in real life Police).
2. Game status.(From how long he/she play).
3. Absolute clear statistic.
4. Membership in Guilds whit Clear Reputation.

Lets state now most important part.
Clue of my idea is that list of members such Police Guild will have only GM and they will stay whit names of thier own Guilds over HP bar.
And fact that player is member of Police can be displayed similar to title but whit using BOLD CAPS FONTS so thats player can but should not be obligate to show fact that he/she is in Police Dep.(like FBI)

Of course any threathing, bribe attempt of Police members should effect sending to prison for 48h.

I realize how dificult is create such Departament because this will give to players hand great power and responsability but i still have hope that egsist in Fiesta players worth such trust.

Please let me known what you think of my idea and add your own ideas in this matter of course i will very happy to hear comment form GMs too (even if they will be negative).

[joecracker]

i do not agree with this, i bleive only gm's or staff should be the only one with any kind of power in the game :)

[MrSlashy]

I agree. And there's also not much proof that someone will be "clean" enough to have power to send people to jail. Because if that someone gets angry, he/she might send people to jail for no reason.

With great power holds great responsibilities. Like the GMs.

[Asheer]

Thats why if this idea ever could be consider should be created a mechanism to prevent "power abuse"(for example probation time) and thats why i suggest limited time only rights to imprison.

Heaviest crimes (like for example sexual harassment) Police member will report direct to GM and then he will decide what course of action should be taken.

[Stenbumling]

No. Even if they had one person banning spammers 24/7 it wouldn't do much. Oh and about the war things, the "police" should be guildless, else his/her friend may effect the choices he make.

All in all this idea won't work.

[Implicatus]

I don't think that this might work. U mentioned something about a "probation time"... and who assures us that he wont go nuts after that p. time time. I mean I can behave to for lets say a week, to get that power. Besides I dont really think that GM-s whould be very happy about this thing, its their responsibility and its a very big responsibility indeed.
But I dont think that this idea chould work...

[Asheer]

Hmmm... i start to get a picture here but whit any conclusions i will wait for a couple more posts(if they come).

[Theoris]

I've seen something very similar to this in another game.
And it worked very very well.
A player base of about 80,000 players, maybe 200 online at anytime and out of all of these 30-40 were picked as "Player GM's" and had the power's to Mute and Kick from the game.
There were occasions when these people were not trustworthy, but most of them were very good and would not allow others to abuse power.
Bad people were removed from power and new people where added by invite only and where tested before given powers.

Something like this can work and would improve the game, but it needs a few good people to start it and alot of good people to keep it going. And the GM's would have to approve and support this idea.

Honestly i don't see it happening, the GM's here are too busy to make it work.

[BlackDuck]

I think the Currnet CL should be granted this power..

[TheMaxOff]

i know the concept under "community gm". And im completely against it. Gms are getting lobbied by the players day in, day out. And its actually impossible to be neutral under such situations. And i guess everyone heard of gms that "helped" there friends. The only think that might help the gms being a bit neutral is that there job depends on it. Community gms could loose there acc in the worst case scenario, but just loosing the title is much more possible. So they have much lesser to loose, when they abuse there powers. of course they wouldnt see it that way.

I already think that the community masters were not the smartest idea, but extending the idea into the actual game? no way.

btw.: the gms of gpotato, where a mayor reason why i quitted. And i only heard the worst stories after i quited. A gm falling in love with an ingame girl... so classic lol. (and it was a boy in real life ).


Edit: community masters?... wait a sec. ARE THEY NUTS? they are not the masters of this community!
not only is the name Gamer Master, already really stretched, because its actually describes the person, that
controls the game world and plays/controls the foes. But now they made a name that is called Community Master? In other words the ones that own the community?
ohh man.... why didnt i noticed before.

[tsj6k]

They are named Community Leaders, or CL.

And GM can stand for Game Moderators as well, albeit less used.

[angel_sanctuary]

sounds like you are referring to a "Mini GM" which has already been brought up and I believe that idea was denied

[Serric]

i know the concept under "community gm". And im completely against it. Gms are getting lobbied by the players day in, day out. And its actually impossible to be neutral under such situations. And i guess everyone heard of gms that "helped" there friends. The only think that might help the gms being a bit neutral is that there job depends on it. Community gms could loose there acc in the worst case scenario, but just loosing the title is much more possible. So they have much lesser to loose, when they abuse there powers. of course they wouldnt see it that way.

I already think that the community masters were not the smartest idea, but extending the idea into the actual game? no way.

btw.: the gms of gpotato, where a mayor reason why i quitted. And i only heard the worst stories after i quited. A gm falling in love with an ingame girl... so classic lol. (and it was a boy in real life ).


Edit: community masters?... wait a sec. ARE THEY NUTS? they are not the masters of this community!
not only is the name Gamer Master, already really stretched, because its actually describes the person, that
controls the game world and plays/controls the foes. But now they made a name that is called Community Master? In other words the ones that own the community?
ohh man.... why didnt i noticed before.

Community Masters of the Universe! By the power of Grayskull, I HAVE THE POWAH!!!!

Heh - no, not quite. CLs have limited responsibilities and powers on the forums, but have absolutely none in the games which, between you and I, is how it should be. OutSpark staff are the only ones which should have power in the games because they have the greatest amount of accountability.

As an example, if I were to be granted powers in the game and abuse them, what do I lose? My account? If an employee of OS messes up, they are risking their paying job and reputation.

We CL’s can move threads, close them and even delete them if the need arises, but our every move is governed and watched over by not only the admins, CSR’s and GMs but all of you. If we screw up they will take notice and we will be counseled. If they don’t happen to catch it, one of you will and will (read: should) bring it to the attention of the admins, CSR’s and/or GMs.

So, to recap: no, we CLs have no power whatsoever in the game. We must adhere to the same rules as everyone and even if we do witness a violation, we need to provide the same amount of evidence as anyone else (screenshots).


I think the Currnet CL should be granted this power..

I appreciate the vote of confidence, I think we all do, but to be honest, I wouldn't want that power. ^_^

[smitske]

no offense but i think its a bad idea, always will be abuse, people will always bann people they dislike sooner then their friends.

[TheCentrix]

I appreciate the vote of confidence, I think we all do, but to be honest, I wouldn't want that power. ^_^

Well I would >_>

Maybe because I want to become something in the gaming industry (by starting off as a GM or similar) so yeah...

[Asheer]

OK... i get a message so Serric please close this thread because countinuing him is pointless.

[maldar]

As this is a business they will not implement something like this, they will only allow employees to employ any real power in game. I'm not sure that they will admit to it, but I'm 100% sure that all the GMs have other accounts that they go on-line with and observe game play. If they used their "GM" characters they would never get any real work done as people would be crowding them and trying to chat with them. In addition to that there are most likely more GMs than what we know of; the one we see are the public face of Outspark.

The best you can do is take screen shots and send them in. If you have the ability to take video, post that to YouTube and send them a link.

*Info below provided so you know how I'm reaching my opinion*

Having been an admin for a First Person Shooter Server (BF2), I know what some of the tricks are when admining. We didn't always have our clan tags on or we used different accounts so we could watch game play. I've also seen admins abuse their powers and that is one of the reasons I left that clan. I tried to make them see the errors of their decision, but was unable to convince them. Some times power will go to some people's head.

Maldar

[Serric]

OK... i get a message so Serric please close this thread because countinuing him is pointless.

As you wish, so is it my command.

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