View Full Version : how many MEN do u put in ur archer
chaostade
02-04-2008, 05:38 PM
Well well well
when I became an archer I've put 40 POW & 10 MEN
now I will be lv50 so I added 5points to POW makes me
45 POW+10 MEN
what I wanna know is
since u got extra points when u lvl up to lv50 (3 or 5?)
which stat should I put them in
does MEN really need & how many points should we put
I have 36+44 for attack and yesterday an another archer lv45 pure POW does the same damage as me....
On the other hand, I have 88 hit rate & 8 skill criticals
with falcon eye (+5) and accurency by neo if I party
20 skill critical points can be guaranteed
which makes +60 damage when I get "lucky"
so what do u guys think
what is the best proportion of POW:MEN?
Convent
02-04-2008, 06:35 PM
Well, at first I thought the 10 men then full pow was the best. I wanted a stat reset so badly (before stat reset cards were out) that I was cringing in agony and tears. >.>;
But anyway, I've got 16 agi, 10 men, and the rest pow. The 16 agi wasn't really worth it at first, but I've got so many +#AP6 items on that the dodge and defense really helped out.
Ever since I first found and disliked my mistake of putting agi, I just put full pow, and every 5 lvls put the extra point in men. It seems like a good plan, and seems to be a common plan.
chaostade
02-05-2008, 04:07 AM
can I know with 16 agi how many dodge do u have
& 16 agi+10 men u've got 15 skill critical?
also is ur attack speed still 1.2 per sec
O too many Qs....
Oreo4Snacks
02-05-2008, 05:54 AM
why put AGI on scout ^^??
Convent
02-05-2008, 03:53 PM
why put AGI on scout ^^??
I messed up. D: Badly.
Chaostade--Agi isn't worth it, really. My dodge is 11 and my attack speed hasn't changed. Dx
chaostade
02-07-2008, 04:25 AM
.....
I've heard with 17 agi you'll have -0.1 attack rate
really don't worth it
get a rebirth
Zeltar
02-07-2008, 07:56 AM
.....
I've heard with 17 agi you'll have -0.1 attack rate
really don't worth it
get a rebirth
for neo it's 15 AGI for -0.1 attack rate. then attack rate is rounded up.
I doubt they've changed it for scout. and if they do then it'll be a divisor of 15 or 30 is what they commonly use, so i doubt it'd be 17.
Euphie
02-07-2008, 08:19 PM
I recommend just 5-10 men until you become archer. You can just do what some agi scout do..exp: Skill attack > Regular attack > Skill attack > Regular attack...etc, but requires a whole lot of ankling. :x Until you get to archer, add on full power.
: D... I hope I didn't repeat anything........
chaostade
02-09-2008, 01:58 AM
no it's useful
just to make sure
archer u mean lv 80 scout u mean lv45 right?
Q:does MEN(or skill critical) increase skill attack speed?
Nixxy
02-09-2008, 02:08 AM
I just have 8 Men (And 1 point in Agi to make it 10 from base 9) and i shoot a fair bit quicker then a Full Int Mage, or a Full Pow Scout.
So yes Men does increase skill attack speed.
chaostade
02-09-2008, 02:12 AM
that comforts me 'cause i added all my 3 extra points to MEN yesterday
Thungbard
02-09-2008, 06:11 AM
I always just assumed skill speed is a figment of peoples imagination. Since it's not listed on my list of stats I refuse to believe in it. So in my book, Men doesn't increase anything except Dodge slightly, the two Criticals and Hit Rate.
I haven't seen any proof to the contrary other than people saying yeah I notice it's faster, but noone has any way of actually measuring it, so until someone figures out how many Men it takes to increase Skill Speed a certain amount I refuse to believe it exists.
For all I know you may notice you use skills faster than someone else because they're computer is more laggy or if they're a different class that classes skills in general are slower than your classes skills.
Convent
02-09-2008, 12:38 PM
.....
I've heard with 17 agi you'll have -0.1 attack rate
really don't worth it
get a rebirth
I feel that your last statement was a bit demandish, like everyone has the ability to get a rebirth card. I'm unable to buy cash, so I can't get a rebirth card.
I can't see a difference between normal attack rate at all.
Death_Scythe
02-10-2008, 07:44 AM
Well, I guess I am the only one crazy about MEN here. I used a stat reset and changed from and all pow build to a 20 men/rest power build. I may make plans to further increase my men from 20-25 or 30. Insane, I know, but I love the increased spamming speed.
chaostade
02-10-2008, 08:20 AM
I feel that your last statement was a bit demandish, like everyone has the ability to get a rebirth card. I'm unable to buy cash, so I can't get a rebirth card.
I can't see a difference between normal attack rate at all.
sry if I make u feel in this way...
me neither I can't buy any cash (I'm in France & don't have a credit card)
don't have to care what I wrote, I was just saying it
just wondering if a pure MEN archer would be awesome~~
have fun!;)