View Full Version : DEX Attribute
-E-N-V-Y-
07-27-2007, 05:38 PM
Let me rephrase my question:
Does DEX apply to skill-based attacks for mages (i.e. If I am fighting a higher level opponent, I will have a better chance of hitting them (even though I would die from one hit anyway (assuming they are a high enough level that I would miss an attack), so it wouldn't really matter, because I wouldn't be able to do enough damage to kill them before they hit me).)?
I understand is raises your Aim and Evasion, and I can understand Evasion, but I never really seem to miss any of my attacks unless my opponent is at a higher level (red name).
What is Aim for if you don't miss? I would think it would raise your damge if you're an Archer (better accuracy = more damage), but it doesn't (as far as I know).
imported_tehfusion
07-27-2007, 07:03 PM
Um? It increases accuracy for everything. Strength increases bow damage, and intelligence increases magic damage.
MorphineSoldier
07-27-2007, 07:16 PM
That's something I don't understand coming off of other MMOs and real life archery.
Damage with a bow shouldn't be linked to strength, since that makes little sense. Pulling back harder doesn't mean you make your opponent bleed more, or that you put a bigger hole in that bulls eye. If anything, it means your bowstring just broke.
Damage with a bow is about where on your opponent you place your arrow, and is synonymous with accuracy.
Hooking bow damage to the*Dexterity stat would go a long way towards making them unique, useful characters and cutting a lot of the cr4p.
-E-N-V-Y-
07-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Rephrased my question(s), and added two statements.
extirya
07-27-2007, 07:28 PM
envy, think outside the box here...
Dont limit yourself with only Mages and Archers, AIM do count. for clerics or fighters (I Often Miss :P) AFAIK DEX here is really balanced out since it does not count in the missile damage, because if it did then PURE DEX Archer/Mage (Considering its also a missile damage and it's not, it's magical damage) build. High Damage, High Accuracy, High Evasion... what more can you ask for?
Str counts here, it took the damage away from dex for missile based attacks, thus limiting/balancing Dex for accuracy and Evasion.
and afaik, aim does not count into consideration for magic based attack, never bothered with it during CBT1 and my mage never missed, if it's red Im fighting then I might just think that I made "0" damage at all XD thats why it came out as "Miss" XD
-E-N-V-Y-
07-27-2007, 07:49 PM
Alright, that basically answered my question; I wont need to put any DEX into my Mage then. If the only thing it's going to count for is Evasion, then I don't need to worry about it.
The way I look at it, DEX should be for ranged attack damage (not magical damage, just bows). And here I will explain why:
Assume you're to level up three attributes for a specific class, this is what they would look like:
Fighter:
STR, DEX, END
Cleric:
DEX, INT, SPR / STR, END, SPR / END, INT, SPR
(This is still debateable, depending on what exactly you're aiming for.)
Archer:
DEX, END, SPR
Mage:
END, INT, SPR
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Reasons:
STR: Melee Damage
DEX: Aim (Bow Damage); Evasion
END: HP; Defence; Shield Defence
INT: MP
SPR: Magic Defence; Critical Hit %; SP
If you look at the way things are balanced, it works better this way, assuming you have 3 major attributes, and 2 minors (that you wont be putting many/any in to).
P.S.
I hope they fix some of the typos in this game.
ComputerSC
07-27-2007, 09:04 PM
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Think a little. When DEX gives both Evasion (aka survivability) and Damage, it's far too good compared to the other two planned main archer stats.
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End is HP and defense, but Dex gives survivability too, but*with damage, so why put End?
Spr is 0,2% critical, but Dex gives damage too, but*with evasion, so why put Spr? (M.Def is pretty useless for Archers - they have far enough anyway. They need physical defense)
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