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Havvoc
02-13-2008, 06:37 AM
Hello mages,

2 days ago i got my cleric to lvl 20 and did the job change with ease and then I realized clercis are pretty fun but mages seem like they would never get boring and they are good.

Before I make my mage I have a few questions:
1. What should I put my points in, Ssome say full int some full end, etc.
2. I see alot of discussion about what to empower..what would be the best for that?
3. Should I buy all the ranks of every skill?
4. My cleric can tank strong mobs because of heal...on a mage if you get hit are you screwed??
5. Do you guys die a ton?

Thanks you all in advance if you help me out

-Saphiron 2X cleric teva

Cardigan_rfc
02-13-2008, 06:48 AM
1. If u want to nuke (really high dd) then all into int
2.Personally i try to max out the cool time
3.well it depends, u wanna have high hits and pay for the sp pots or do crap damage but save money.
4.Mages can tank only in rare cases, but genrally if u get hit about 3x ur out
5.yes if ur a noob

Havvoc
02-13-2008, 07:00 AM
Ty can anyone else answer??

KiSsGod
02-13-2008, 08:33 AM
Hello mages,

2 days ago i got my cleric to lvl 20 and did the job change with ease and then I realized clercis are pretty fun but mages seem like they would never get boring and they are good.

Before I make my mage I have a few questions:
1. What should I put my points in, Ssome say full int some full end, etc.
2. I see alot of discussion about what to empower..what would be the best for that?
3. Should I buy all the ranks of every skill?
4. My cleric can tank strong mobs because of heal...on a mage if you get hit are you screwed??
5. Do you guys die a ton?

Thanks you all in advance if you help me out

-Saphiron 2X cleric teva

1. Well best is to go 25 spr and then full INT. With the 25 SPR you get %5 of crit which is nice. No point in going END for me because in partys its really not needed and mostly when i grind i try to kill monsters before they touch me.

2. I empowered my magic missle (dgm and cooldown), because i use it alot and when comboing i use lv1 missle when waiting for my other spells to cool down. With the dgm is empowered you get a nice hit dgm, even with lv1 missle :). Also empower you fire spell's dgm. If you want to be good in aoe parties i would empower also your magic burst atk dgm aswell. (this is just to get you settled).

3. I bought all of the skills. But when it came to buying lv2 maga burn i passed on it. (its only useful for guild wars any away, its a waste of money).

4. Clerics and mages are different. With a mage you want to do alot of dgm before the monster get to atking you. Mages cant tank and really shouldnt because they arnt built for it (equipment etc). If you tank in a party, your cleric and fight will be mad at you =p. Thats their job, you job is to do a ton load of dmg :). When soloing use you stones and pots, yes it might be expensive but its worth it.

5. From lv5-29 yes. But when you get to lv30 it gets a ton better. I still die but not everyday like i did when i was in my 20s. Only thing you have to watch for when you solo, is trainers.. thats really the only time i die.

Other info: Work with your combos. Your magic missle has a cool down of 4 seconds when cool down maxed on it, its awesome. When i atk any monster i do magic missle -> then my ice spell. You ice atk has a chance to slow down the enemy. Try different combos to see what works best. This will help you not to die constantly. :) gl

zircon91
02-13-2008, 09:51 AM
1. The most common are full int and 25sp/rest int split (I use this one).
2. I have lots of cooldown on magic missile, magic burst, magic blast (lv48 skill). Full dam on fire, lots of dam on magic burst and magic blast.
3. Absolutely, however, rank 2 dispel can wait. Rank 1 will cure just about all curses. Rank 2 life tap can also wait until higher level grinds. Purge and mana burn are useless unless you plan to PvP. Oh, and higher ranked magic missile can wait until lv50-60. Use rank 1 until then.
4. Mages take waaay more damage than the other classes. If you plan to solo, make sure you have lots of stones and pots handy. If the mobs reach you, you'll see your hp half in no time.
5. I also died heavily in the lv20s due to the use of a +9 weapon. Things get better in the 30s when you have better armour. Green +end equips will help your mage enormously.

ola_swirl
02-13-2008, 11:26 AM
1. Like the other, posts, I hav +25 Spr (+5% crit rate) and all the other stuff added in the equipment (+spr rings. earings, weapon and sp), then, I hav +int in the rest. I added +5 end so that i dont die in lotsa kqs which i do aoe and lowers a bit of all the 10 mobs' damage I hav around me.
2. I always empower low cooldown skills in lower cooldown, like magic missile and magic blast. I also hav max damage in fire bolt and magic missile.
3. I know its a waste of money and only ppl with lots of money to invest will buy mana burn. I hav it and i only like it because it has the highest cast range and it will do a little more damage. Purge is not very useful.
4. If u use mage kite (hit run, hit run) u can do this way: First, mana burn if u have then ice bolt, which lowers the enemy's speed, then, magic missile. Run a bit. Now, lightning bolt or fire bolt, run, then fire bolt or lighting bolt (depending on what u used before), then run, then magic missile, run, magic missile, run, then your ice bolt cooldown should almost be finished, then run until the cooldown is done and cast it again, then run, the magic missile (the mob should be dead by now if its yellow) then run, then repeat the cycle. When, the mob is almost dead, I like to stop, jump and then wait until the mob is close. Then, BAM! magic burst. xD
5. Most of the normal mages would, but i hav the premium pot from the outspark shop... (no cooldown)

Havvoc
02-13-2008, 01:04 PM
Does it really take like 10 shots till a normal mob dies and also is there any Main things to empower that is essential?

KiSsGod
02-14-2008, 07:32 AM
Does it really take like 10 shots till a normal mob dies and also is there any Main things to empower that is essential?

If you empower the right things you would need less hits till something dies. The main things to empower is your cool down on you magic missle magic burst and dgm on your fire bolt. When you get Magic Blast (lv49) you need to max dgm on it. Its an awesome powerful atk (ull use it the most).

Atmor
02-14-2008, 10:35 AM
5. Most of the normal mages would, but i hav the premium pot from the outspark shop... (no cooldown)

Actually the cash shop pots have about a 1 sec cooldown that isn't shown, and may just be caused by lag, but a cash shop hp pot will not save you indefinatly, I should know...and in response to the question you are thinking about asking, no it did not run out...

Havvoc
02-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Ok ty guys two more things

So empower CD on MM
CD on Magiv burst
Dmg on Fire Bolt
And Max Dmg on Magic Blast.

How do you guy smake money as a mage cause i have 80s cause of really lucky drops but I want to not have to worry at all about money

Lastly whats a good shot rotation?

Thanks all

zircon91
02-14-2008, 04:32 PM
Lucky drops, scroll and stone production for me mostly. As for spell sequence, for single monsters, before I got magic blast, I used: ice, mm1, fire, mm1, lightning, mm1, then I kept spamming mm1 until fire was ready again. I don't use ice more than once because of it's low damage for the amount of sp it uses. I only use it to slow the monster down at the beginning and get a couple of extra hits in. For multiple mobs with a tank and cleric I'll use magic burst first and keep using it as soon as it's ready again (unless I'm taking too much aggro).

KiSsGod
02-15-2008, 07:17 AM
Ok ty guys two more things

So empower CD on MM
CD on Magiv burst
Dmg on Fire Bolt
And Max Dmg on Magic Blast.

How do you guy smake money as a mage cause i have 80s cause of really lucky drops but I want to not have to worry at all about money

Lastly whats a good shot rotation?

Thanks all

Well, i make most of my money by grinding solo. When you party, try to set up a AOE party because of CD on Magic burst you'll kill super fast and make alot of money.

With you max cool down on Magic missle i do,
Magic missle -> ice bolt -> lightling bolt -> magic missle -> fire bolt -> magic burst -> (by this time monster will be right by u) Then use magic missle till ice bolt cool down is gone.

When this rotation, i do alot of dgm with Magic missle (maxed dgm and CD) then slow down the monster with icebolt and when you use magic missle first you can let it cool down so you can use it again in your combo.

If in a party or taking down a mini boss etc.
Use combo :
magic missle lv1 -> ice -> magic missle lv1 -> lightning -> magic missle lv1 -> fire -> then use magic missle lv1 untill other spells cool down

HamannM3
02-15-2008, 09:41 AM
Ok ty guys two more things

So empower CD on MM
CD on Magiv burst
Dmg on Fire Bolt
And Max Dmg on Magic Blast.

How do you guy smake money as a mage cause i have 80s cause of really lucky drops but I want to not have to worry at all about money

Lastly whats a good shot rotation?

Thanks all

I think cooldown on magic burst is a waste, at higher lvl you will need those points to put them in more important and powerful spells. I say from lvl 1-59 empower mm1 full cooldown (i used this skill alone to lvl from 1-27), full dmg on fire bolt, as it is pretty nice, full dmg on magic blast. Thats it, it leaves about 15 points to put into Fear, Chain cast, and frost nova. Fear and chan cast get full cool down, and nova get full power. then you lvl to 67 and put full cooldown in inferno, but this is far into the future.

I'm probably forgetting something but... w/e :)

Baltic
02-15-2008, 03:51 PM
everyone keeps saying 25 SPR and rest INT.
but does the 25 spirit include what you get from equipment or does it have to be stat points?

Havvoc
02-15-2008, 04:50 PM
Its for stats only

Baltic
02-16-2008, 04:49 AM
sigh then i got job to do on my lvl 27 mage with 3 SPR and rest INT