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Lost_Sage
02-18-2008, 08:42 PM
Ok...this is the last straw... (ranting ensures)
THE EXP EARN HAS TO BE RAISED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:
No, pls don't give me that, "buy exp boosteer" thing. The prices are unbelievably high and i wouldn't get sparkcash anyways...
For a game that has a cap of lv150+, this is offically gone out of hand. What would happen to ppl that are at lv9x? They earn 0.1% per hour??!!
Seriously, i have been playing about an hour 7 days a week, and im stuck at lv42 for a whole 2 months...:mad:

Ok: This is what i would most likely need to expect after OB, or i will join my friends in Asda story.
1. Raise the exp earn
2. Lower the prices for the boosters: Yes, i wouldn't use them, but still...10000 for booster? That's like over $20 U.S dollars. No offense, but that's highway robbery...

TY!
(Ranting finished...)

However, the rest are fine, so keep them good...

Convent
02-18-2008, 09:01 PM
I agree, though I'm Solstice crazy and play almost as much as Shiki (which I'm ashamed of, no offense Shiki) and it takes me 3 days to lvl, 2 at best. Raising it and lowering costs is going to kill me though, cuz over half my scout buddy rivals can buy and I can't no questions asked period hands down. Thus, my dream of being within first # of archers will die. D:

So...I'm not complaining as much. >.>; but since you're aco it might be a bit harder for you. Try partying in places like Rudwork?

Ferria
02-18-2008, 09:02 PM
D: ... i know how u feel .______.;;; *pats*

Propanol
02-18-2008, 09:12 PM
I am not willing to buy exp boosters partly because some of my friends won't buy them, partly because they're a bit expensive. I hope the new pets make lvling faster instead...

Nixxy
02-18-2008, 09:45 PM
Lol your asking for exp to be raised when your only level 42... you probably still earn like 0.2+ per monster. when your earning 0.02. Then i could understand complaints.

I dont mean to be rude but if you play everyday you shouldnt be stuck at level 42 for 2 months, you cant of been training in that time.

thrakx
02-18-2008, 10:30 PM
Im with nixxy. You have NO right to whine about exp unless you are at least lvl 50.
Plus you can solo an aco. I know its hard i did it, but you can. Just be careful. I mean i was stuck on lvl 40 for a week, and i thought that was bad. If your stuck on a lvl its because you arent applying yourself. Specially with the no lose exp dungeon like the lair. Lvl 42 pffft. I WISH i got that exp still.

dylanangel
02-18-2008, 11:00 PM
Lol your asking for exp to be raised when your only level 42... you probably still earn like 0.2+ per monster. when your earning 0.02. Then i could understand complaints.

I dont mean to be rude but if you play everyday you shouldnt be stuck at level 42 for 2 months, you cant of been training in that time.

Yea I agree here.

ChaosAD
02-18-2008, 11:13 PM
I'm lvl 63 and i can assure you lvling up is pure and utter hell. My daily Goal dropped from 50% to 10-30% From lvl 60 onwards it's gotten to be incredibly hard.

Im afraid to solo anymore because monsters only give me 0.01-0.06% and all you need is for your game to freeze once while you're being mobbed and you've lost 7%, 6% with Anti-Death Pendant, 4% with Spark Store Anti-Death Pendants. But that's still 3-5 hours of pure soloing blown to waste.

The only means of lvling for me right now is partying non-stop with lvl 45+ Acolytes, AoEing with Squires or Knights, or my least favourite--only fighting in the Blackheart Lair since i don't lose exp there if i die.

To Haruko, Shiki and the other lvl 80+ people...i have no idea how you did it without EXP booster but i truly am impressed...I don't know if i'll ever reach that level with this stupid laggy server we have, especially on weekends where the server is loaded with hundreds of people. And don't go telling me get a betetr computer or better internet because it's perfect, thank you very much. The stupid lag is from the server and i hope something will be done about it soon.

Anyway, about Frederic, i know he is only lvl 42 but he doesn't play as much as we do (6+ hours a day) for unlike most of us he has a life to attend to. And when you're limited to little online time, lvl 42 to him is like lvl 65+ to us daily gamers so i understand his frustration.

But sadly all we can do is rant about the exp...i doubt they will ever raise it even when the Final Version comes out but you can always hope ya? Oh well :/

thrakx
02-18-2008, 11:26 PM
Anyway, about Frederic, i know he is only lvl 42 but he doesn't play as much as we do (6+ hours a day) for unlike most of us he has a life to attend to. And when you're limited to little online time, lvl 42 to him is like lvl 65+ to us daily gamers so i understand his frustration.
:/

I know whats its like to not have a lot of time to play due to Real life business to attend to, However, I still take care of business and try to get my weekly SoS goals completed.

jmoua9
02-18-2008, 11:26 PM
when i do solo at edine (rarely...) i get .01/02 w/o books. If i was to stack books i'd be around .05...so even with book, its pretty dam tough.

And if they were to raise the exp (no complains here :D), i really dont want to hear "OMG ***, THEY HIT LVL 120++++!!?!?!??! *blah blah blah*" so yea...

Lastly...have fun :D

ChaosAD
02-18-2008, 11:30 PM
when i do solo at edine (rarely...) i get .01/02 w/o books. If i was to stack books i'd be around .05...so even with book, its pretty dam tough.

And if they were to raise the exp (no complains here :D), i really dont want to hear "OMG ***, THEY HIT LVL 120++++!!?!?!??! *blah blah blah*" so yea...

Lastly...have fun :D

When are you going to update your damn sig :p You're not even Haruka anymore XD What an oooold Sig lol

thrakx
02-18-2008, 11:33 PM
When are you going to update your damn sig :p You're not even Haruka anymore XD What an oooold Sig lol


^= Complete OWNAGE

zemigon
02-19-2008, 12:09 AM
I agree, the XP have to be raised in higher levels.
btw, i also play around 1 hour a day, but it took me only a week to level from 41 to 42, u better look for another trainig spot

Jackieliu
02-19-2008, 01:34 AM
Lol your asking for exp to be raised when your only level 42... you probably still earn like 0.2+ per monster. when your earning 0.02. Then i could understand complaints.

I dont mean to be rude but if you play everyday you shouldnt be stuck at level 42 for 2 months, you cant of been training in that time.

i agree... wait till you hit lvl 65+ like me.... 5 % a hr or least, then you can complaint.

Rodaa
02-19-2008, 03:57 AM
i agree, i wasnt bothered about the exp at first, but yeah, its out of hand -.-

Zeltar
02-19-2008, 05:30 AM
Lol your asking for exp to be raised when your only level 42... you probably still earn like 0.2+ per monster. when your earning 0.02. Then i could understand complaints.

I dont mean to be rude but if you play everyday you shouldnt be stuck at level 42 for 2 months, you cant of been training in that time.

I agree.
it seems like the time needed per level doubles every 10-20 levels. looking back to the 40s it now seems fast, the good old days where i could get 2lvls in a day. it feels like i've hit a brick wall in the 60s, i can only imagine what it'd be like for the 80+ people.

In the end the grind is endless, the only way to stay sane is to have a nice bunch of friends and have a good conversation while pressing the F-keys.

BTW for those that say acos are the hardest to level up, i think they are one of the easiest. a low level neo/squire etc would be useless in Loren/Edine etc. they'd do 1 damage and die in 2 hits. but a low level acolyte is still useful for a high level party. a couple of days ago we had a level 42 acolyte in a party full of lvl 60-80 people, grinding in some tough maps, the aco was really cranking the exp at an unbelivable rate!

ggBuRNe
02-19-2008, 07:53 AM
Heh.. in Edine at lvl 81, i only get 0.03-0.06 by soloing and 0.00 - 0.02 in a party without booster.. and i stuck at this lvl for 4 days now.. ughhh.. Yea what Haru said is right, i dont think there is any problem with the exp, no complaint from me.. What I need is a better and new map.. all I can say is, try not to slack as much and find a good spot to grind.. good luck ^^.. btw Coldest, 5% an hour is REAL GOOD..

thrakx
02-19-2008, 09:26 AM
you guys know that the jot area is a 60lvl map right? Course. Stands to reason that they bring some new zones out for yo0u 80+ers soon then you can get decent exp again. Same as everytime they realease a new map pack, and then people pass the lvls and are back down to crappy exp. Hang in there guys!! I know at least i look up to you 80+ers so props from me!

Jackieliu
02-19-2008, 10:14 AM
Heh.. in Edine at lvl 81, i only get 0.03-0.06 by soloing and 0.00 - 0.02 in a party without booster.. and i stuck at this lvl for 4 days now.. ughhh.. Yea what Haru said is right, i dont think there is any problem with the exp, no complaint from me.. What I need is a better and new map.. all I can say is, try not to slack as much and find a good spot to grind.. good luck ^^.. btw Coldest, 5% an hour is REAL GOOD..

ya..5% is good compare to your 2%...lol...but you know what... i hope they dont upgrade the maps this fast... let me catch up a little bit before adding new maps..lol....btw...damnit... you're already lvl 81...

Tressley
02-19-2008, 10:26 AM
I'm a level 38 Neo and N. of Essene I'm getting 1.5-2.0% per monster. That's without and EXP enhancer.

I've only been playing for about 2-3 Weeks, and I've used parties to the fullest. Just running in an area with a bunch of friends and killing anything and everything really makes leveling much quicker (mentally).

Just try not to pay attention to the EXP bar and go out with your friends and party. Trust me.

thrakx
02-19-2008, 10:42 AM
ahh frederics now you got nubs telling you how to play!!! LMFAO!!!!!

Lost_Sage
02-19-2008, 01:27 PM
ok, thank-you for the suggestions...
I just want to say sorry as i was in a foul mood yesterday, as i planned a 2 full hr grindtime on Monday with my friend who i had promised that i will party with that night. However, my parents forced me to practise piano, taking away the 2hr grindtime to a useless 15min online at 11:00PM. Then, i asked my other friend to party, but she was busy then. I went into the Blackheart lair myself, already feeling the steam rising. I enter there only to be ks more than 10 times in 5 minutes and died there 3 times within 10min...
I kind of let out the steam here... sorry if i had insulted anyone...

P.S. I have a HUGE project due at school last week, so i had limited my time for the last 2 weeks to 10min or less a day... that's probably why...:(

thrakx
02-19-2008, 02:33 PM
dude take a deep breath. You be ok. I think its funny when you rant about exp.

kioji_Y
02-19-2008, 02:36 PM
i hope they make new maps high harder mobs for high lved pple soon.

Trashknight
02-19-2008, 03:25 PM
i hope they make new maps high harder mobs for high lved pple soon.

Huhuh.. rider spoke about maps for level 100+ in pvp today.

ChaosAD
02-19-2008, 11:15 PM
Huhuh.. rider spoke about maps for level 100+ in pvp today.

Most probably Blackmail Forest. I can't wait to see what's in there. Mabe the giant pink bunnies will be upgraded to giant pink bunnies with bulky muscles, or maybe fat sumo pink bunnies! The imagination never ends!!

Trashknight
02-19-2008, 11:44 PM
Why not small rabbits with big eyes and even bigger clubs?

thrakx
02-19-2008, 11:49 PM
huge poyos and Ice golems rider showed us those a little while back i remember. and then today, when he spwnd one on top of me in essene. grrrrr

Trashknight
02-19-2008, 11:50 PM
Reminds me of the talking Icegolem we wasted yesterday in Arcarinas. He asked why we hit him. XD

davisf18
02-20-2008, 08:02 AM
Most probably Blackmail Forest. I can't wait to see what's in there. Mabe the giant pink bunnies will be upgraded to giant pink bunnies with bulky muscles, or maybe fat sumo pink bunnies! The imagination never ends!!

i bet it will be some of those monsters we saw spawning in essene and byrnhild yesterday :O

Ferria
02-20-2008, 09:28 AM
omg dont start with the RABBITS.. PLS. D: *dies*

Anyhow... trust me, lvl-ing alone is utter hell, but when you have friends around its fun! :D For my case, before i got uber busy, i stayed on for more than 48 hours and grinded non-stop XD;; And didnt share exp but partied so i didnt get lonely.

You'll get used to it.

I love this game because it one HELL of a CHALLENGING game and uber OWNAGE! <3

Kage_Ninja
02-20-2008, 09:59 AM
guess im getting close to the exp problem,im mostly a solo player but when guilds are released i'll be partied with my members to help lvl them

yourmojo
02-20-2008, 10:07 AM
Wow, 0.02 ~ 0.06 at lvl 60? With a level cap of 150?

I played an mmo where the level cap was 120, and you got 0.02 at level 105. And that is considered bad. If the level cap was 99, this might be a bit more understandable. I'm still going to play this game though, hopefully they address that in the future.

At this rate a level 100 would be getting like 0.001 per kill. Level 150 would not be possible in anyone's lifetime.

EDIT::

Wait, isn't this game still in open beta? That would probably explain it. Once they finish beta and stuff I imagine the exp would change, new maps / monsters and everything.

ChaosAD
02-20-2008, 10:49 AM
Wow, 0.02 ~ 0.06 at lvl 60? With a level cap of 150?

I played an mmo where the level cap was 120, and you got 0.02 at level 105. And that is considered bad. If the level cap was 99, this might be a bit more understandable. I'm still going to play this game though, hopefully they address that in the future.

At this rate a level 100 would be getting like 0.001 per kill. Level 150 would not be possible in anyone's lifetime.

EDIT::

Wait, isn't this game still in open beta? That would probably explain it. Once they finish beta and stuff I imagine the exp would change, new maps / monsters and everything.
A lvl 100 would be getting 0.001% if he were killing lvl 60 monsters that give 0.02-0.06% to lvl 60 people, if a lvl 100 would be killing lvl 100 monsters then he would be getting 0.02-0.06% not 0.001% so just because people see small number doesn't mean there's something wrong with the exp and you'll never reach max lvl in your lifetime.

Here's the reason why people complaining about exp is utterly stupid.

For Example at lvl 60, Mobs at 1 map west of Eir give about 0.04-0.08

People see that low exp and immediatly think how the heck you're supposed to achieve lvl 100+ with that low exp already at lvl 60. Why is this? Because the monsters you're killing is around your lvl or lower.

Edine monsters give me 0.30+% solo at lvl 63, Edine has lvl 90+ monsters, now i know this is impossible to do solo but im just pointing out that there are better maps out there which offer decent exp.

If the exp problem was soooo grave then Shiki wouldn't be lvl 90+, and this is with killing mobs at the hardest map that is currently out. Blackmail Forest will be open soon and will offer lvl 100+ monsters.

Face it people there is nothing wrong with the exp. Indeed it is very hard to lvl up but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get to Max lvl in your lifetime. As more and more maps come out, lvling up will become easier and easier.

BellaAnimorum
02-20-2008, 12:01 PM
EDIT::

Wait, isn't this game still in open beta? That would probably explain it. Once they finish beta and stuff I imagine the exp would change, new maps / monsters and everything.


Face it people there is nothing wrong with the exp. Indeed it is very hard to lvl up but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get to Max lvl in your lifetime. As more and more maps come out, lvling up will become easier and easier.

Very true. Don't whine about experience BEFORE the REAL game is out.
Maybe I'm just optimistic about it, but what we have now is "just the tip of the iceberg". Let's all simply focus on doing the best we can until our GM's let us know the game is fully complete. (then, we can cry about exp, given there are still problems by that time...)