Mixed feelings about opening BR

[smitske]

I cant help having mixed feelings about, sure its good better exp and place to grind for the highe rlvls, but on the other side.
Quest +1mill= noobs will come to gain 10+ lvls by just leeching.
sure the relogg is fixed but still, someone will be stupid enough to escort them to uruga and other areas.

[Jhanniss]

I cant help having mixed feelings about, sure its good better exp and place to grind for the highe rlvls, but on the other side.
Quest +1mill= noobs will come to gain 10+ lvls by just leeching.
sure the relogg is fixed but still, someone will be stupid enough to escort them to uruga and other areas.


Has anyone tried taking up those quests as a low level character since the patch? I know I kept mine even though my character's only 57 at present. I will probably be one of those people trying to tag along just to get it done and leveled out. :3

[smitske]

i could still get it at 60 while its a 79 requirment

[BlueberryCheescake]

Honestly, I doubt actual nubs have that quest =P

If ever some level 1 have that quest that's because either that is one's alt of someone having a main that have access to uruga when the quest was given out. xD

Well yeah i guess you'd have mixed feelign about noobs getting exp for not that much hard work, but how about those level 79 that grinded their way to cap WITHOUT burning rock?

You're luckier than them. so look at the bright side. =P and besides if those noobs use that quest to level to 30.. WOE TO THEM! AHAHAHA it's so easy to level until 40 at least, so it's their stupid fault for using that quest to level up instead of using that for higher levels (45+ - 55+) =P when they need more exp. ^_^

[smitske]

well many hear about it and will then come

[Jhanniss]

well many hear about it and will then come

Nah. More like beg to be taken. I'm sure we remember the number of low levels running around in Uruga pre-death exploit removal. That should go down a fair bit now that it's been addressed and fixed.

[Dup84]

I went to Uruga with an Uruga scroll with my low lvl30, to buy some T3 scroll, but I keep getting harrassed by high level calling me noob. No one OWN Uruga so please, stop this stupid anti-newb threads!

[smitske]

then stop being greedy and lazy, we got only a few maps and you guys take the spots we need while you guys have tons of options.

[ken10]

i think this is a BIG mistake to open Burning Rock...
no information from Patch Announce about Burning Rock.
i hope GM will fix this fast..bcoz i tested my Lv.1 mage and did Fire Nix quest,and only with 1 quest,my mage from Lv.1 leveled up to 39...
so wats the point of lv.1 till lv.38 quests????
useless right?
i did all quests from lv.1 till i hit cap 79,so im dissapointed if they give Fire Nix quest to Lv.1
maybe better if they open Burning Rock for next cap.

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"Friend more important than Real Money"

[smitske]

see, that just ruines the game

[Serric]

I went to Uruga with an Uruga scroll with my low lvl30, to buy some T3 scroll, but I keep getting harrassed by high level calling me noob. No one OWN Uruga so please, stop this stupid anti-newb threads!

then stop being greedy and lazy, we got only a few maps and you guys take the spots we need while you guys have tons of options.

Play nice, now.

He said he went there for T3 scrolls. What's wrong with that?

[Garvin2000]

It is kind of aggravating, when you grinded yourself in areas that suited your level, getting from 20's to 60's by grinding it out with people your level, anticipating and waiting for each one.


Nowadays people can be plvled from 1-50 in about a week, and they are and will be.
Hopefully something will at least be addressed by this, but I'm not holding out any hope. There's 30's in BR right now lol. =/

[Serric]

It is kind of aggravating, when you grinded yourself in areas that suited your level, getting from 20's to 60's by grinding it out with people your level, anticipating and waiting for each one.


Nowadays people can be plvled from 1-50 in about a week, and they are and will be.
Hopefully something will at least be addressed by this, but I'm not holding out any hope. There's 30's in BR right now lol. =/

Hm... well, who do we blame? Those who are getting plvld (and missing out on a LOT of fun game experience) or those who plvl them?

In order to kill the weed you must also ensure the root is dead.

[smitske]

ye, half the plvlers on my server do it just to **** me off.

[joecracker]

better hurry up and get there now :) as they might roll back the patch to fix it if they really want to :)


i am glad they opened it up :) now we 7x can get exp how we should be and not fighting over spots!

[wannabeguyo]

then stop being greedy and lazy, we got only a few maps and you guys take the spots we need while you guys have tons of options.
*** you act like all the good xp areas belong to the high lvled people....well they dont im lvl 41 and i take some o fmy low lvled friends to cp and uru all the time. and how are you gonna call him lazy if you dont even know him -.-

[smitske]

well if you get plvled you are lazy to me, work for your lvl like I and many others did, iI hate being outlvled by the one or the other noob that didnt do a damn thing, and hate it even more that they cant evenplay their class.

[Kuydo]

But, Burning Rock has MOAR GIANT CHICKENS! How is that not a plus side to it?!

[AngellicDiety]

*** you act like all the good xp areas belong to the high lvled people....well they dont im lvl 41 and i take some o fmy low lvled friends to cp and uru all the time. and how are you gonna call him lazy if you dont even know him -.-

As a level 41, AEW's level range is 20 levels above your level, FoS is 30, and Burning Rock is 40.

You shouldn't be there at all.

If you cant solo a monster by yourself, then you simply shouldn't be there.

[Akio950]

people who have seen me in BR btw i came alone by myself no escort and dont get mad at me because you know i can tank a fire nix with a cleric

[Rzpect]

Burning ROck came out already?! o.o
sorry i quit this game a while...

[Serric]

Guys, please try to settle down a little here. We're getting some flammable posts and I don't want to see them combust.

The facts are: anyone has a right to be anywhere and (at this time) powerleveling isn't a violation, regardless of your personal point of view.

EDIT: As confirmed by GM_Dakkon: the term "powerleveling" in regards to a violation applies only to 3rd party powerlevel sites who offer these services for real cash. Guild members bringing lower-leveld players to higher-leveled areas or even random strangers offering to help lower levels in these areas is allowed.

However, on a personal note, if you do bring alower leveled character to a higher-leveled area please try not to abandon them in that area when you are done - please ensure you either return them to a level-appropriate area or find them another party (at which point it will be that party's responsability to do the same).

I, too, have reservations about BR being opened but these reservations are on account of whether or not the area is actually ready for release. Time will tell...

[rxyangl]

well if you get plvled you are lazy to me, work for your lvl like I and many others did, iI hate being outlvled by the one or the other noob that didnt do a damn thing, and hate it even more that they cant evenplay their class.

*no comment* (but I surely have a mouthful to say on that one)

/--Back to topic.


I am glad to see BR open. Just wish they did put some sort of lvl lock on uruga and prehaps fix that quest.

[XelveX]

:O maybe I should get my lvl 1s to Uru and tag along xD JOKING

But I must say this... Level lock Uruga or at least AEW. With AEW locked... guess what? Access to AEW will block all noobs from tagging along to BR and begging to players who are going there. As we all know... AEW>>FOS>>BR>>Fire spirits/fire nixes>> EXP from quests>>level 39 ^^

[KireiYosei]

I like that its opened but I was sure it will be closed soon, and from what I hear, it will? The mobs seemed a little too easy. Mobs in FoS are harder. And I know higher levels don't own the place, but I think levels 30s being there is redicilous. I was in MT at level 30 <.<

[WindCaster]

Why the **** is everyone against low lvled people. Sure, some may be abnoxious and leech off of others, but that's no reason to start dissing 'em all and not helping them. Just because you've been playing a longer time then others doesn't mean you own the friggin game. I mean seriously guys, take a chill pill.

And my lvl 24 brother managed to get the FireNixen quest and some other high lvled quest. No one would offer to help him with it. Not even one... *cough*egotistical higher lvled people*cough* -_-

I guess it's just me, because I'm willing to help a lower lvled person.

[Serric]

To be honest, and many people in these threads know this by now, I tend to be in agreement that every area should be open to everyone if they can get there. Unfortunately enough "bad apples" are gettng through and risk fragging it up for everyone. If the GMs are convinced that there is enough evidence to be considered in violation with "the spirit of the game" level caps may indeed be a thing of the future.

There may be 100 decent lower levels that mind their own business or ask politely and accept a "no" answer in Uruga alone but it only takes 10 "bad" players to beg and annoy enough people to have made this an issue.

is this right? No, I don't think so, but the GMs may have little choice if things cannot change...

Why the **** is everyone against low lvled people. Sure, some may be abnoxious and leech off of others, but that's no reason to start dissing 'em all and not helping them. Just because you've been playing a longer time then others doesn't mean you own the friggin game. I mean seriously guys, take a chill pill.

And my lvl 24 brother managed to get the FireNixen quest and some other high lvled quest. No one would offer to help him with it. Not even one... *cough*egotistical higher lvled people*cough* -_-

I guess it's just me, because I'm willing to help a lower lvled person.

[XelveX]

Why the **** is everyone against low lvled people. Sure, some may be abnoxious and leech off of others, but that's no reason to start dissing 'em all and not helping them. Just because you've been playing a longer time then others doesn't mean you own the friggin game. I mean seriously guys, take a chill pill.

And my lvl 24 brother managed to get the FireNixen quest and some other high lvled quest. No one would offer to help him with it. Not even one... *cough*egotistical higher lvled people*cough* -_-

I guess it's just me, because I'm willing to help a lower lvled person.

You will understand when you are a level 38+. No one likes a leecher. And because we think lower leveled people should stay in their area UNLESS they have really important stuff to do in high leveled places. Like for me, a level 43, I got to Uruga BECAUSE I need to level by the means of partying in AEW/Uruga. BUT because lvl 37 and below... have no business there, we diss them cause we want them to leave >.>*coughs*don'tmurderme*coughs* PLUS low levels go like this: PL0X HELP ME KILL FIRE SPIRTS/NIXES. And spam that for 20 times until half of Uruga blocks him/her. Trust me, I blocked about 3 people just cause they were saying that. And from what everyone is saying... low levels think this quest is a GREAT way to skip some levels. I other words... this quest is a HUGE bad thing *prefers not to say curse* on the leveling system.

[ChaosSeraph2]

I honestly HOPE everyone knows that Burning Rock will be closed ASAP.

I heard from Dakkon directly because I was with LoveLove at BR when Dakkon was awarding her with her level 75 +9 premium hammer.


He said it would be closed "soon" I dont know exactly when, but most likely within a day or less.

[Catica1]

I dont really think they need to close to it, but definately a lvl requirement on it. And yes to all you low lvls I didnt go into MT until lvl 28, CP until lvl 40 and Uruga until lvl 48. As of this weekend I have been playing this game just a few days over 1 month and I am lvl 67 probably be 68 by tommorrow.. Oh yeah and just for the record, I HAVENT done the Fire Nixe quest and dont plan on doing it till lvl71+

I wont pwrlvl anyone and I will be rude to you if you ask me for it. For the simple fact I know from my own experience YOU DONT NEED IT! And yes the constant spam,whispers, people running circles around you while your trying to train begging you for a party is sooo beyond frigging annoying... Im just beyond thankful there isnt a limit to how many people I can block.

My simple rule is this.. If you cant kill the mobs where you are SOLO, you dont belong in that area.

But anyway *rant off* if they dont at least put a lvl requirement on BR then I would almost prefer them to close it.. At least then I wont have the Fire Nixe spam on top of all of the other spam.

Though just to also add I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have 60+ green drops fixed, added, or w/e they need to do to get them in the game than any new area!

[Catica1]

Looks like this was just posted recently make sure youo go vote:

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48933

[IroguroMeek]

Why the **** is everyone against low lvled people. Sure, some may be abnoxious and leech off of others, but that's no reason to start dissing 'em all and not helping them. Just because you've been playing a longer time then others doesn't mean you own the friggin game. I mean seriously guys, take a chill pill.

And my lvl 24 brother managed to get the FireNixen quest and some other high lvled quest. No one would offer to help him with it. Not even one... *cough*egotistical higher lvled people*cough* -_-

I guess it's just me, because I'm willing to help a lower lvled person.

lol, I somewhat agree with you. I think its more of the fact that, low levels are trying to take the ez way out of lvln by asking for Plvl and doing the BR qsts. I mean...like wow, a lvl 10 jumped to lvl 44 after just doing the fire spirit quest...like it took me MONTHS to get to lvl 44 and they just all of a sudden get it instantly. It's almost not fair that the majority of us higher levels had to go through hell to be where we are now and some low level just magically gets it in an hour or so. Well that's what I think why most high levels dont like low levels, and plus there are some REALLY annoying low levels lmao

But on a side note, idh a problem with helping low levels, I helped 2 low levels do the Fire Spirit Quest today and helped them lvl. Your brother should have asked me when I was on today =O i wouldnt mind helping at all.

[katiebb87]

then stop being greedy and lazy, we got only a few maps and you guys take the spots we need while you guys have tons of options.

blablablablablablablablablablablabla.

[ken10]

PLUS low levels go like this: PL0X HELP ME KILL FIRE SPIRTS/NIXES. And spam that for 20 times until half of Uruga blocks him/her. Trust me, I blocked about 3 people just cause they were saying that. And from what everyone is saying... low levels think this quest is a GREAT way to skip some levels. I other words... this quest is a HUGE bad thing *prefers not to say curse* on the leveling system.

i tested my fren archer Lv.1 did Fire Spirit quest too...
and im dissapointed only with 1 quest,he lvled up from Lv.1 to Lv 39.
My question is : "Whats the point for quest Lv.1 untill Lv.38 for him??"
its all useless,bcoz only with 1 quest from Fire Spirit quest,he can jump 38 level up.
i remember when i was Lv.1,i did all my quests and im not get this "Fire Spirit" quest. Not Fair right?? LOL
*Peace* ^^

[katiebb87]

If you cant solo a monster by yourself, then you simply shouldn't be there.
EXACTLY. that's what i think, if you're in a place that is 20, 30, 40 lvl's higher than you are, but you can still kill mobs even if that means one by one, GOOD FOR THEM!! it's good exp, good drops. honestly i'm so sick of higher lvl people and their snotty attitudes to people who started to play after they did.


Or maybe we just have lives and play less >.<
NONONO i'm jk, i'm sure that's not why at all.
but seriously, don't be rude to lower lvl people.

[WindCaster]

I think there should just be a lvl ban on quests. Listening form others, that's the main reason they're annoyed... people spamming them for help on quests.

i tested my fren archer Lv.1 did Fire Spirit quest too...
and im dissapointed only with 1 quest,he lvled up from Lv.1 to Lv 39.
My question is : "Whats the point for quest Lv.1 untill Lv.38 for him??"
its all useless,bcoz only with 1 quest from Fire Spirit quest,he can jump 38 level up.
i remember when i was Lv.1,i did all my quests and im not get this "Fire Spirit" quest. Not Fair right?? LOL
*Peace* ^^

Kinda off topic, but I think I saw you on the new server today. ^^
Archer, right?

[LostHorn]

I think this is unfair! My fighter is lvl 43 now, and I worked really hard to get there! Now anyone doing this quest can get to lvl 39 just like that!??!? o.O

I know a lot won't be able to do it, and you need to have good friends, but getting from lvl 1 to 39 just like that, and skipping MONTHS of hardwork, that's just not fair.

[BlueberryCheescake]

Why the **** is everyone against low lvled people. Sure, some may be abnoxious and leech off of others, but that's no reason to start dissing 'em all and not helping them. Just because you've been playing a longer time then others doesn't mean you own the friggin game. I mean seriously guys, take a chill pill.

And my lvl 24 brother managed to get the FireNixen quest and some other high lvled quest. No one would offer to help him with it. Not even one... *cough*egotistical higher lvled people*cough* -_-

I guess it's just me, because I'm willing to help a lower lvled person.

Hmm, let's see try the new server and you'll experience what the "high levels feel" :) With the new server you'll start afresh. You won't have any high levels to help you. You won't have someoen to help you with Burning Rock. You won't have someone let you leech. That's the same for the most of the high levels that don't like to help lower level just like that.

They levelled the hard way. Don't go hating them, because you can't blame them. ^^ If you find some high level willing to help you then, lucky you and be grateful. :)

Anyways, for those that get pleveled without playing their character at least to 40. They'll surely understand the consequences.

(1) You'd more likely to quit when you reach the higher levels not realizing how easier it was to level back then. Having wasted that precious quest, you'd find yourself regretting for sure.

(2) If you didn't buy gold from spambots, you'd find yourself poor for to buy your skills.
2a - that means, you can't efficiently join parties and:
2b - people would know u got pleveled and... well goodluck finding parties. :)

(3)You wouldn' t know how to play your character which is bad. =P
(4)Leveling to 40 in an instant wouldn't help you have a fun experience + you won't know many people. Friends and important bonds are made from the kqs, quests and random grinding uve just made during ur low levels. So if you get plevled, goodluck at finding friends =P. Itll be hard but its stilll possible.

(5) respect from people.... wil be harder to get because of the first four reasons.

So, people chill. enjoy your time and play the game as it should be.

If one gets pleveled by a friend, other high levels have no right to be angry or what not. =P That's luck people. some are lucky some are not. Doesn't mean u have to disprespect them especially if they didn't beg or ask for it.

[whitecrowe]

Poor kids getting to my level in under a day, not only do they miss out on the easy quests but they'd be dirt poor with no idea how their class works. Of course this would be more profitable than powerleveling for a few days.

I just laugh at them since when they actually want that million or so exp they won't have it ^ ^

[ken10]

I think there should just be a lvl ban on quests.Kinda off topic, but I think I saw you on the new server today. ^^
Archer, right?

No LOL...<3 TEVA 4ever^^
I tested my fren archer lv.1 bcoz i want to know he can jump to Lv.40 or not only with Fire Spirit quest...and he jumped to Lv.39 from Lv.1 after did that quest LOL. +/- 30mins i helped him to do Fire Spirit quest.

I think this is unfair! My fighter is lvl 43 now, and I worked really hard to get there! Now anyone doing this quest can get to lvl 39 just like that!??!? o.O

I know a lot won't be able to do it, and you need to have good friends, but getting from lvl 1 to 39 just like that, and skipping MONTHS of hardwork, that's just not fair.

yup...100% true ^^
may i ask sumtin??
"Where's my Fire Spirit quest when i was Lv.1?"
LOL XDDD
make it balance ! ^^

[Soulfrit]

Poor kids getting to my level in under a day, not only do they miss out on the easy quests but they'd be dirt poor with no idea how their class works. Of course this would be more profitable than powerleveling for a few days.

I just laugh at them since when they actually want that million or so exp they won't have it ^ ^


@ White Crowe - In regards to your sig, how is the pure SPR archer working out for you? (As I have a friend making one pure SPR) :p

[Gravvi]

well the only issue's with the low lvls going there are they just train people. And also disrupting gameplay is a violation of ToS. And that is all they do. At least the majority do.

One other thing. There is alot of KSing going on and name calling in BR. I am a lvl 58 archer due to that quest. I did tha tquest at lvl 57 when i had 45% I was told it was open so i went there. I can solo the nix and spirits. So i got my guildmate(a cleric(lvl49=no quests) to come help me and off course do the quest). Well fact is i dont care if ur there just dont' beg(someone asked politely i said i was in a duo he said thanks anyway XD). See those kind of low lvls i dont' mind there. But yea we did the quests and we each gained one lvl. I went form lvl 57 at 47%ish to lvl 58 7%. My cleric friend went from lvl 49 10% to lvl 50 67%. We were able to solo there. I do agree something should be done but not restrict the area's. Shoot i made it to Flame mine without training(dunno how)

I am glad is was opened because i was in a lvl lull where i didn't want to do anything. Now i am excited i am lvl 58 got tons of quests. REady to grind again.

I am also glad they are closing it. Too many low lvl beggers following higher lvl people to uruga to spam looking for BR party then following the high lvls to BR where they just die then beg for a rez(when they dont' get it they complain and call high lvls rude)

I did enjoy the party i had in BR. ANother thing the monsters are just as hard as FoS. The beginning monsters are like the shylphs and the farther u go its like going to Ancient stonies.

[iliiketoeatcheese]

Hey, well im a level 44 cleric and i spent all the time i could today trying to do the fire spirit quest. all i have to say is that, i only have 10 spirits left. please don't change the cap tomorrow.

also, was reading a book, and liked this quote :P
"a broken clock is correct 2 times a day"

[joecracker]

i am sorry, but if they decide to open it again, 70+ limit on it, because we need a place to lvl, as for people under 70 u got a lot of places to lvl fast, we dont

[TomatoEgg]

As a level 41, AEW's level range is 20 levels above your level, FoS is 30, and Burning Rock is 40.

You shouldn't be there at all.

If u say like that...
when u 6x u shouldnt be at FoS grinding...
u should be in uruga or aew which is in urs lv range =P

ya dont close the door D:
or if u wanna control the situation put 65+ or 70+ lv requirement
cuz if u close lv6x ppl will hard to find a grinding place again D:

btw if a new player, low lv player without a main do this quest...
they will face another probelm...
no money to buy skill and equip xD

[TheCentrix]

You ppl wanted BR open, now it is so don't complain :D

[Alice-B-Black]

I have to agree, everyone wanted it open. I've yet to visit due to XTrap.

[Deedolith]

My simple rule is this.. If you cant kill the mobs where you are SOLO, you dont belong in that area.
Allow me to be less drastic: Solo, you're supposed to kill mainly yellow / orange mobs (reds arn't worth the trouble or pots|stones concuption).

But in party, you're supposed to be able to defeat higher lvl mobs. Certainly not 40+ lvls higher than yourself (again, poor pots|stones / XP ration), but I guess somewhere between +5 to +15.

I'm 47 mage, I went to BR to test it (with a party 45 - 49), and it sucked. Sure each mobs are worth a lot of XP, but spending half a SP bar to kill just one ...... come on !! Bye the time one die, we could AoEed 10+ mobs in AeW, for the same SP consuption and 5 times better XP. I don't think I'll return there anytime soon.

[XpierulesX]

Weeee 38 -> 43 :D

[TheCentrix]

Ppl were having this discussion even before it opened, but still wanted to open BR no matter what. Now its open, be happy or let them close it again.... >_>

[lightningmystix]

I haven't been there or anything (level not suited) but this is what I think ...

GM Dakkon just posted a thread on Uruga gate lock <333
I love the idea.

To those people that were complaining about Uruga not being lag free anymore, this should probably reduce the lag a bit ... even though it probably will cause quite a lot of inconveniences (not being able to plvl a friend or a friend's alt etc.) it seems to be better in the long run.

About BR:

All those people that complained about Uruga/AEW/FoS being crowded. Couldn't AoE without running into another AoE party, etc. Well, you've got a new map, and now you complain? New monsters, new places to explore. BR apparently doesn't seem to be there for the lvl 6x and below unless you want to burn a lot of time and energy killing 1 monster, it's for the higher levels if they want to grind some more.
This way, higher levels won't be cramped in a few maps like almost everyone complained, no?

Personally though, I think the gates to BR should also have a lock on them. 45+ sounds pretty good to me.

[Jerath]

Honestly, I doubt actual nubs have that quest =P

If ever some level 1 have that quest that's because either that is one's alt of someone having a main that have access to uruga when the quest was given out. xD

Well yeah i guess you'd have mixed feelign about noobs getting exp for not that much hard work, but how about those level 79 that grinded their way to cap WITHOUT burning rock?

You're luckier than them. so look at the bright side. =P and besides if those noobs use that quest to level to 30.. WOE TO THEM! AHAHAHA it's so easy to level until 40 at least, so it's their stupid fault for using that quest to level up instead of using that for higher levels (45+ - 55+) =P when they need more exp. ^_^

No matter when it's used, it's still the same amount of xp lol.
plus it might work against them if they do lvl 10 times at once because they might miss quests that were only available (for example) from lvls 31-36. plus jumping up that many lvls would make them poor for quite a while i imagine, having to buy a new full set of gear.

[WindCaster]

Hmm, let's see try the new server and you'll experience what the "high levels feel" :) With the new server you'll start afresh. You won't have any high levels to help you. You won't have someoen to help you with Burning Rock. You won't have someone let you leech. That's the same for the most of the high levels that don't like to help lower level just like that.

They levelled the hard way. Don't go hating them, because you can't blame them. ^^ If you find some high level willing to help you then, lucky you and be grateful. :)

Anyways, for those that get pleveled without playing their character at least to 40. They'll surely understand the consequences.

(1) You'd more likely to quit when you reach the higher levels not realizing how easier it was to level back then. Having wasted that precious quest, you'd find yourself regretting for sure.

(2) If you didn't buy gold from spambots, you'd find yourself poor for to buy your skills.
2a - that means, you can't efficiently join parties and:
2b - people would know u got pleveled and... well goodluck finding parties. :)

(3)You wouldn' t know how to play your character which is bad. =P
(4)Leveling to 40 in an instant wouldn't help you have a fun experience + you won't know many people. Friends and important bonds are made from the kqs, quests and random grinding uve just made during ur low levels. So if you get plevled, goodluck at finding friends =P. Itll be hard but its stilll possible.

(5) respect from people.... wil be harder to get because of the first four reasons.

I don't know if you're still talking to me about this, but I've never powerlvled.

[ljkabookie]

straight to lvl 40 in one go just isnt fair, im a 4x character and it took me a long time to get there... why cant people enjoy the game a lvl the correct way, i think there should be a lvl cap on uruga and BR. i also think there should be lvl caps on other maps to, take cp as an example, who here cant say they are getting ksed everytime they go there, if you cant kill the monsters and die in like 1 or 2 hits isnt it obvious its not the place for you!?

[AngellicDiety]

If u say like that...
when u 6x u shouldnt be at FoS grinding...
u should be in uruga or aew which is in urs lv range =P

ya dont close the door D:
or if u wanna control the situation put 65+ or 70+ lv requirement
cuz if u close lv6x ppl will hard to find a grinding place again D:

btw if a new player, low lv player without a main do this quest...
they will face another probelm...
no money to buy skill and equip xD

Unfortunately, its AEW 60-70. And yes, maps have some level overlap. Lv.67-69 players have monsters in the Forest of Slumber as orange.

You, on the other hand, may possibly have it red.

You, on the other hand may not be able to solo the monster.

If you cant solo a monster by yourself, then you shouldn't be there.

It's really that simple.

[Roseanna]

Just one thought to everyone rushing to do the Burning Rock quests... when you get to the level where you're supposed to get the quests, it's going to absolutely suck that you have to grind your entire level with no quests to do. ;)

[atese]

Unfortunately, its AEW 60-70. And yes, maps have some level overlap. Lv.67-69 players have monsters in the Forest of Slumber as orange.

You, on the other hand, may possibly have it red.

You, on the other hand may not be able to solo the monster.

If you cant solo a monster by yourself, then you shouldn't be there.

It's really that simple.

That is utter nonsense. I've been grinding red mobs since the third day of bijou. Level 74 was the first time in months that I had to kill a mob that wasn't red(only red mob left was joker trumpy.) Now that BR is out, I'll grind red mobs again.

Groups routinely aoe mobs that said groups mages wouldn't even think of soloing. If a group is chain-pulling, the situation is even worse for the mages. CP mobs tend to 1-2hko mages at 2x. But cp is a great place for 2x groups to grind. Same for Uruga at 3x, and AEW at 4x. A 6x group with three mages can aoe almost anything if the tank and cleric are good.

With the pre-BR crowding situation, 7x and high 6x were starting to fill FoS. This forced the low 6x into places that 5x would normally grind(cp1 and aew.) That is where the tension came from. When players couldn't even find a yellow mob to grind due to crowding, they started to pull rank on their lower leveled fellow players(which is, frankly, bs. being at a higher level doesn't give you exclusive claim to higher level mobs) If burning rock alleviates the crowding enough, lower leveled players grinding higher leveled mobs shouldn't be a problem. Just avoid the quest mobs in BR if you don't want to fight the crowds.

The only question now is what giving every character on the server 1.3mil exp will do. When a character can be plvled via quest from 1x to 4x in under an hour... That will probably cause some problems in areas where 4x normally grind.

The gate/scroll level lock would take care of this. Stick a 30+ level requirement on uruga and the plvl problem will be a lot less severe.

[smitske]

Ppl were having this discussion even before it opened, but still wanted to open BR no matter what. Now its open, be happy or let them close it again.... >_>

You know darn well that I was agasint getting it opened.
also its to late to close it now, the harm has been done, people are even more fed up, i worked hard getting to 40, now i se epeople doing it in 1 hour.
I ask myself whas it still worth it putting time in it?
geuss not.

[Serric]

You know darn well that I was agasint getting it opened.
also its to late to close it now, the harm has been done, people are even more fed up, i worked hard getting to 40, now i se epeople doing it in 1 hour.
I ask myself whas it still worth it putting time in it?
geuss not.

I was afriad this would happen. ...

Smitske is correct - now that it is open, although the GMs can close it at any time, it would create a considerable uproar.

The fix is, I would think, to make the quests - especially the 1 million xp quest - restricted in two ways: 1, it should be available for lvl 40+ and 2, it should NOT be a repeatable quest.

[smitske]

yes, the opening just ruined it for me.

[non_existent]

I reckon the quest is pretty ridiculous...

Why isn't there a level requirement on it? >.<

The fact that you can get from 1 to 39 so easily worries me. As someone else mentioned, how are training areas going to cope with the increase in numbers? Already, it was difficult to get a good duo-spot in CP with all the AOE parties going around...

In any case, I have no intention of taking that quest, and prefer just grinding my way through my levels...although with an increase in level 40's...I might find myself regretting that decision...

***

On another note, I reckon it's pretty arrogant to believe that a person shouldn't be in an area just because he/she can't solo it. By that logic, dungeons should be banned for most people, because a lot of the time you need a party to survive.

Furthermore, it would be unfair for different classes. Clerics have an awesome ability to solo with their buffs and heals. On the other hand, Mages are glass-canons, where it becomes difficult to solo. If a party of players around the same level can handle an area, I don't particularly see too much of a problem.

[Vajrabhairava]

it should NOT be a repeatable quest

Huh? Its not, is it? It sure as hell better not be.

And yes, I agree to the general feeling that its totally damn unfair to those of us who worked for 40. This is just a further continuation of my feeling that newbies these days are very lazy/greedy, and aren't willing to work for anything, resulting in incompetent high level players and other problems. I think allowing 50+ to do the quest is not THAT bad, since at that points its not even enough to level you anyhow, though it is a nice help. Below that level, you will gain 5+ levels from the damn quest, which kinda makes me feel cheated. Though of course, ideally this quest would just be unavailable till the intended level of 70+ or whatever.

And I do hope that they re-close BK.

Also, I bet everything that I have said has been already said in one form or another. But I still wish to speek!

[smitske]

I reckon the quest is pretty ridiculous...

Why isn't there a level requirement on it? >.<

The fact that you can get from 1 to 39 so easily worries me. As someone else mentioned, how are training areas going to cope with the increase in numbers? Already, it was difficult to get a good duo-spot in CP with all the AOE parties going around...

In any case, I have no intention of taking that quest, and prefer just grinding my way through my levels...although with an increase in level 40's...I might find myself regretting that decision...

***

On another note, I reckon it's pretty arrogant to believe that a person shouldn't be in an area just because he/she can't solo it. By that logic, dungeons should be banned for most people, because a lot of the time you need a party to survive.

Furthermore, it would be unfair for different classes. Clerics have an awesome ability to solo with their buffs and heals. On the other hand, Mages are glass-canons, where it becomes difficult to solo. If a party of players around the same level can handle an area, I don't particularly see too much of a problem.

its a lvl 79 quest, and they knew it was bugged, and still they were foolish enough to open -_-

also cleris are estremely slow killers.

next, the repeat quest gives 42k, its the kill 150 nixes.

[The_Zeroith]

I read most of these posts . . . I think the real issue is a legitimate "bug".
What is the bug? Well, the quest worth 1.6mil that is labeled (rightfully so) as a level 79 quest is available (and working) for all levels.

Burning Rock does not require closing or level limits.... the bugged quest requires fixing ... no more no less.

BTW, to everyone worried about "nubs" taking over BR .... am I the only one that has noticed that the map is HUGE!!! It's like the size of FoS and AeW put together! Also, there are PLENTY of spots that nubs couldn't even be leveled at because the mobs and spawns are too aggressive. I'm not even going to get into talking about the mine.... just take a chill pill xD

digiversed
69 cleric
teva

[smitske]

ye, how could they be so stupid not fixing quest first?

[joecracker]

the repeatable one is only worth like 42k, so thats nothing

and they need to ask korea to patch it for 70+ limit :) if they cant do that themselfs :)

[smitske]

they were able to open the area themselves, so they could be smart enough to wait untill patch to fix qquest.

[apathos]

I'd just like to point out that the problem here is not the gate, the problem is making the quest available to all lvls. If it was only available to lvl 79+ or whatever lvl it's supposed to be, you wouldn't have NoobFlood going on right now.

[Catica1]

Ppl were having this discussion even before it opened, but still wanted to open BR no matter what. Now its open, be happy or let them close it again.... >_>

if they dont at least put a lvl requirement on BR then I would almost prefer them to close it.. At least then I wont have the Fire Nixe spam on top of all of the other spam.

Though just to also add I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have 60+ green drops fixed, added, or w/e they need to do to get them in the game than any new area!

[Akio950]

I say that Uruga should be 50+, same as BR :3

[reesiecutie]

I hope that when they close BR that they also roll back the exp that was gained from the bugged quests. They're for level 79 for godsake! I, for one, refused to go to BR as I'm only level 63, and I don't believe a place like that was intended for those under 70-80. This booboo (accudentally opening Burning Rock) reminds me of when the cap was accidentally raised last year....it led to exp roll backs for the few who got over the 59 hump.

[non_existent]

I hope that when they close BR that they also roll back the exp that was gained from the bugged quests.

If it doesn't affect the exp gained elsewhere, that seems like a good idea ^^

[Hydr0]

I really dont understand all problems.. it's not like uruga. they won't train there and take ur spot. they only come there for 30 min to finish the quest with a friend.
yes i helped my friend and from level 32 and now he's 41 but why u care? let them have fun and level fast.. in the end they will have to grind and aoe just like u at 50+..
so now they level fast but then they need to face the real world of aoe :\

so i really dont care if u block it.. but let's say smistke.. that even u dont supose to do this quest. only level 79 need to do it. it supose to be level 79 quest so non of us really needed it. so there is no problem from level 50-60 to 10-20.

[smitske]

who sais im doing it?
It is a problem oit ruins gameplay and will make people quit because something that took me over 1 and a half month takes 30 minutes now, that isnt fait towards the people that struggled to get their lvls.

[Garvin2000]

I really dont understand all problems.. it's not like uruga. they won't train there and take ur spot. they only come there for 30 min to finish the quest with a friend.yes i helped my friend and from level 32 and now he's 41 but why u care? let them have fun and level fast.. in the end they will have to grind and aoe just like u at 50+..
so now they level fast but then they need to face the real world of aoe :\


~Thing is people actually try to grind there after their quests are done = stupidity. The exp there isn't that good so as to supersede the Exp in Fos, AeW or even Uruga because it takes longer to kill for slightly more xp. Example- with a stonies party, we can kill 4-8 stonies in something like 30secs for 9xx Xp each. In BR its 1xxx xp,2-4 at a time. Other areas are just plainly better until you get to the higher 60's and 70s.~

~When in BR prepare to be trained....a lot....Ksing, spot-stealing, and such are common because though you can AoE, only a few spots are really suitable and the other spawns are sporadic and often occupied.~

~thing is it breaks the game. What are the consequences when there are suddenly at least a 100 new 3x's / 4x's in the span of a week, a day, an hour?
It already looks like Teva is becoming top-heavy, there being more high-lvled players than lower lvl ones gradually. Elderine is thinning out and thing is that the higher you go, the less and less areas there are to grind. This is only worsened when you have to compete for space against people 30 levels lower than you are who have at least 8 other areas in which to grind. It breaks the game.~

[Kaiza]

LoL i dont really care because i am mostly solo in Flaming mine or in BR at Lava Gargyoles lol ^^ Cuz other mobs are yellow where the low lvls are ^-^

[KateeHellen]

First of all this quest in BR should be never avilabile WITHOUT level restriction.

Second thing... DONT HELP anybody lower as +40 to make this quest.

Its crazy to make such hyperjump from 1 to 39, this seems something fun on the begining but look behind you and see what you lost doing this:
1. All 3 lowlevels KQs (i still missed Slime and Mara KQs and despite problems to apply Gold Hill KQ :D), next avilabile KQ for 39 is Robo(*shrug*... i was scared when i go on my first<and only one so far>Robo KQ) I can imagine such hyperpowerleveled player in Robo and i can say only one word... DISASTER.
2. You lost all oportunity to LEARN how to play your character and how to using skills by doing quests(hihihi... i remember how scarry i was before i killed Gang and bored Imps:D), meet low and high level friends who sometimes later will help yu do some harder quests(but NOT powerlevel) and many many more hiden game cookies ;)
3.Maybe most important - your Shadow Quest(without him you cannot use Tier 2 items).
When on lvl 20 shadow have 7500 HP(if i recall correctly), then imagine how much he/she will have on lvl 39 making SQ impossibile to finish.
I agree whit many people here that avilability this quest for ALL levels is big mistake and should be very fast fixed like relog bug was recently fixed.
About level requierments on gates i have mixed fellings becasue there is one thing what made this a touchy subiect and i mean players build and gears.
I am current lvl 37 fighter but i can easy deal solo for example Harkans in CP and practicly all mobs in GC (i find 350 XP for GC little unfair in compared to 405 XP for Harkan :D) but my build is so called hybrid and my all gears are green whit optimalizations to STR as main stat and i go whole way from lvl 1 to 37 doing all quests(even repeatable ), KQs...
Its sad to see that here are people who jump on any avilabile oportunites to quick level without thinking what consequences this will take.
And level lock on gates will make guids grinding almoust impossibile because not all guilds have players on this same level.
And to end let me tell you something.
There is option in main menu to making Party invitations inactive(in game options) and this work perfect but dont forget activate this when you will try make intentional party or go to KQ otherwise you will run alone whole KQ(i messed up one of my Gold Hill KQ because i forget activate this before apply<but beside this we won>).

[Vajrabhairava]

I can imagine such hyperpowerleveled player in Robo and i can say only one word... DISASTER.

Oh god, thats true. That generation of Robo's is likely to be the most fail of any yet.

[BlueberryCheescake]

A rollback on the quest's exp reward would be difficult. Well, still lots of people infuriated with the opening and the bugged quest eh?

Easy guys, just ignore them. Those that got pleveled or "cheated" their way to 40 or to whatever level they used the quest for. It's their loss not yours. Yes, while it may be depressing that it took you guys months while it took them an hour or so, what can you do? You'll just be stressing yourself thinking about that and comparing etc. etc.

Personally, I don't think levels determine a player's skill anyway. Sure he may have been pleveled to 40, but if he knows how to play his class, then that's perfectly fine with me! And if they don't know, that's too bad then. It is them who will have a HARD TIME not you!

That's life my friends, things change sadly. Just look at the bright side, now you have another map to grind on :)

[chinoi]

think a litlle ... lvl 1=> 39 = no money=no ekips= no skills = owned >_> fix this quest bug and make a rollback to all lowbies who done that quest :S (<lvl 50)
BTW the relog bug also fix the economy of the game :D

[TheSilentOne]

who cares...i soloed the whole thing, i wasted my money, nothing should be rolled back, people who took nubs there and helped them is the same as people helping nubs who can scroll to Uruga . Get over it, its only 1.3m

[BlueberryCheescake]

true true .... xD

[reesiecutie]

I can't wait too see everyone who decided to do this quest too early cry when they hit 79 with no quests to do. Then again, what is the likelyhood of someone who was powerleveled through the more fun levels of the game sticking around to hit 79? People, you're really only hurting yourselves in the long run....the rest of us are just annoyed by you but not actually hurt.

[Krusnik02]

Well, it's not fair for those of us who can actually live and fight properly in BR to just randomly delete every charrie who did it or anything like that. BR should have harder monsters at least because a party of level 51-54 people (this is the one I was in when I did the quests) can survive with a VERY talented cleric who can multitask well. Sure, it took a good 3-4 hours to finish the quests, but we managed without much difficulty or deaths (the only time was when the cleric DCed). We killed more than one enemy at a time too! My fingers were locked onto the keyboard :D

Anyways, a level restriction would be a quick solution. I'd say, for the level of monsters there, 50+. They are REALLY TOO EASY TO KILL! Boost up the level of the monsters so even level 50s cannot party in there.

Also, past level 50 you don't get like 10 levels from doing the quest, just one or two depending on the % you have already. This isn't as drastic as the lower levels and is just a nice reward for those of us who worked really hard to get to there!

From,
A mage who could actually take a hit from a Fire Spirit and live (... occasionally)

[Suna_]

Read the new emergency maintenence. I'm glad they're doing this.

[Krusnik02]

This is not a proper solution! I've already pmed them. A better one would be to delete the reward of anyone who leveled insanely in the last 24 hours. Some of us worked FREAKING hard just to have this happen.

Plus, I got 3 new skills. UH... What now? I'm not supposed to have them.

[Duraga]

Bad idea... ive helped a number of people that are 50+ do this quest, and not that a 53 (probly going to 52), shouldnt be able to kill mobs there, but, im full +9, i can take a hit from most anything in the game and keep going... I did this purposly to help friends... and now im getting rolled back??? What sence does that make? I get hit about the same maybe a little harder in br than i do from ancient stonies... Just cause there is a lower level glitch doesnt mean wipe it all clean... Sounds like the stuff put out in patches should be tested in a small scale first so people that actually like to play the game dont have this sort of issue.