KQ Losers

[LyingSinner]

I'm starting this topic really to rant about the kq I was on before the patch booted us all off. Though that is true I would like to hear about all your horrible KQ experiences too. It's fun to rant a bit. So anyway my mara kq...

Ok it was really just this one fighter that was the problem. I'm not sure what her lvl is and I particularly don't care since it didnt excuse her from not fighting. She didn't fight the first mara and marlone at all. I asked her about it she said she had too low defence. Ok I had a lvl 17 fighter in my party who had lower hp then her, my fighter didnt get hit once. But at the time I didnt really care if the non-fighter didnt do anything or not cause we were doing awsome.

Then we were at the foot of the ship when the maintence thing announced ten min. till fiesta would shut down. We all started rushing to finish in time before it went down. We had no mages and we could have really used the help. She didnt fight at all. She again said she had low hp and couldnt fight, that she was a dd. Something we needed. I told her that if the lvl 17 in my party could do it so could she. The fighter continued to argue with me until we were booted about how she could not help in any way.

Now I know that mara and marlone can kill in one hit, but if others can do it and arnt getting hit so could she. There are spots that you can stand and won't get hit. She got all uppity on me about playing the game for a long time acting like she was the only one thats ever played the game. Any way she just made me so angry that even when we needed her to do something that she just stood there.

Well thats the end of my rant. Now if you all want to try it go ahead and post your own story.

[happypeach]

I was in Mara kq earlier. U would think thats all lvl 17+ wuld atleast know how to do it cuz they managed to get to thats lvl.
We had in thats KQ 2 Cleric which one was me.
1 Archer
2 Tankers
10mages

Out of all the Archers and Mages few lvl 20+ none of them knew how to lure -.-
So we failed. a noob Mages pulled 2 mara on us.

[Nerevar158]

Haha...well i have a story about another bad cleric :S (dunt hurt me clerics....i do like you but its just that you are so important if you dunt do anything it kills us :S)

Anyway, i'll keep this short. I entered mara (bijou btw), i was a DD fighter doing what we do, hit stuff. Now even though i was lvl 17 and i had no def, i would kick away anything that attacked clerics or mages or archers, and on the odd occasion fighters (accident, i panicked alot). Because of this i took alot of hits and i stoned and potted heaps. I can actually say this because it is true, the lvl 20+ cleric in my party did NOT heal me once. I didn't really mind cos i have a billion pots. The thing that really got me angry was that when i died. He did not rez me. Even if i asked him. And yes he does have the skill because i saw him use it, several times.
Why didn't he heal me, did i do something wrong T.T
Anyway that is my story, i hold no grudges, maybe he couldn't see my hp or something, nvr occured to me till after.
(Was a bit longer then i thought, still not that long)

[seisor]

I have seen the same many times now <.<
for me as a cleric I just stop heal that person, and if the person died I don't revive it.
Because I'm busy healing the ppl that do attack the mobs/boss.

Here is another thing.
When playing mara pirates KQ, when killing mara or marlone don't shout "don't Stun".
By stuning the mara or marlone you increase the rate of stay alive and do more dmg without getting a knockback.
The False rumour about Mara and Marlone doing a counter attack is false.
They have a counted number of attack that will be done betwin there special.
If the Stun attack should "trigger" such an attack it would have done it to all the monsters in Isya.. (fiesta).
And the changing target is just because the tanker kicks once then after stops kicking , gets stuned and mob loses intrest in it be cause there is another player doing more dmg atm.
The only KQ boss you shouldn't stun is the Golden hill boss (Golden Grave robber) be cause right after he gets out of stun he attacks the first target that attacks him.

over and out. / seisor

[Issaic]

Haha...well i have a story about another bad cleric :S (dunt hurt me clerics....i do like you but its just that you are so important if you dunt do anything it kills us :S)

Anyway, i'll keep this short. I entered mara (bijou btw), i was a DD fighter doing what we do, hit stuff. Now even though i was lvl 17 and i had no def, i would kick away anything that attacked clerics or mages or archers, and on the odd occasion fighters (accident, i panicked alot). Because of this i took alot of hits and i stoned and potted heaps. I can actually say this because it is true, the lvl 20+ cleric in my party did NOT heal me once. I didn't really mind cos i have a billion pots. The thing that really got me angry was that when i died. He did not rez me. Even if i asked him. And yes he does have the skill because i saw him use it, several times.
Why didn't he heal me, did i do something wrong T.T
Anyway that is my story, i hold no grudges, maybe he couldn't see my hp or something, nvr occured to me till after.
(Was a bit longer then i thought, still not that long)

I'm sorry for that cleric, but as you should also know, we aren't all like that. Since he didn't, try a shout next time, and hope for a dif cleric.

hehe, my rant is about me.
As a 23-25 cleric on Bijou, I would, after confirming that there were other rezing clerics, run to the end and not kill anything (even pass the fakes). The oher 14 people would get mad at me, but I alwas had th boat cleared out, and I would always be clearing part of the landing before the boat by the time they got there, allowing for us to kil lthe reals faster. We always finished, and faster than any other KQ, but people still hated me. Is it that bad of a thing when others can heal/rez?

[Nerevar158]

I have seen the same many times now <.<
for me as a cleric I just stop heal that person, and if the person died I don't revive it.
Because I'm busy healing the ppl that do attack the mobs/boss.

Yeah i know that but you wanna know when he didn't rez me. Near the steps leading to the boat where the final fight begins against the real mara and marlone. Fair enough there are some mobs there that they should take care of first. But i did wait the whole 3 minutes (LOL.....i was leading them too XD). I saw him run past me a few times and talk to others in the kq.
So? I dunno what else to say.......

[xxgreyskysxx]

i have a story :D lol not that bad but more like a rude fighter no names ^^ but it was in robo kq i got into a party with me as the only cleric, full party, everyone in my party was getting hit so its hard as the only cleric to heal everyone but i tried my best, this fighter died but she wasnt tanking and i tried to heal her but she died O.O then she started yelling at me and i tried to explain that everyone was getting hit and im the only cleric in the party and its hard, but she didnt care she wanted me to heal her and only her and i wasnt going to do that...everyone needs healed, so she went in the back of the room and sat there in her mushroom, then when it was time to leave that room she went out there and fought some and i healed then when she was running i was once again healing everyone and she died again and left the party...she was whining the whole time :(

[Issaic]

I have seen the same many times now <.<
for me as a cleric I just stop heal that person, and if the person died I don't revive it.
Because I'm busy healing the ppl that do attack the mobs/boss.

Here is another thing.
When playing mara pirates KQ, when killing mara or marlone don't shout "don't Stun".
By stuning the mara or marlone you increase the rate of stay alive and do more dmg without getting a knockback.
The False rumour about Mara and Marlone doing a counter attack is false.
They have a counted number of attack that will be done betwin there special.
If the Stun attack should "trigger" such an attack it would have done it to all the monsters in Isya.. (fiesta).
And the changing target is just because the tanker kicks once then after stops kicking , gets stuned and mob loses intrest in it be cause there is another player doing more dmg atm.
The only KQ boss you shouldn't stun is the Golden hill boss (Golden Grave robber) be cause right after he gets out of stun he attacks the first target that attacks him.

over and out. / seisor

Mara wil lswtich targets when stunned, I've had it happen many a time. It's really annoying when a level 17 just decides to stun, then us clerics get killed (heals draw aggro) and we get blamed for not healing

[Nerevar158]

Mara wil lswtich targets when stunned, I've had it happen many a time. It's really annoying when a level 17 just decides to stun, then us clerics get killed (heals draw aggro) and we get blamed for not healing

Hm....the only occasion i can imagine you getting aggro like that is if the main tank was stunned while this was happening. Because kick cool down is like 5 seconds. Concussive charge (or whatever its called i dunno XD) stuns for like what....more then that i'm sure. So tank should just be able to kick back straight away. Unless they were spamming kick >.< (not the best idea, can't be bothered explaining but you tanks should know what i'm talking about

[seisor]

Mara wil lswtich targets when stunned, I've had it happen many a time. It's really annoying when a level 17 just decides to stun, then us clerics get killed (heals draw aggro) and we get blamed for not healing

The reason isn't the stun, its that the tanker is lazy and don't kick when the cool down is over.

As a tanker you shouldn't really do any dmg at all, you should only keep the mobs attacking you.
Don't blam th ecleric if you die.
You got pot and stones right?
Well if you have low hp and you notice that you don't get healed (maybe the cleric revive a team mate.
USE A POT OR A STONE THEN FOR GOD SAKE!! ..

END fighters should buy Mock when they reach lvl 20 before anything else.

[LyingSinner]

Wow great stoires guys. This was a good way to pass the time till server comes back up.

Poor Gray, I completely understand. I hate it when people start whinning about not getting healed when there are others that need it just as much or more then they do. Let's see them try to be the cleric. See how well they do.

Nerevar I've seent this happen tons of times. It's some thing that I in fact look at the moment a cleric enters a party, to see if they actually heal. Cause if a person in party gets below half way mark then they don't heal and nobody else in party as gotten healed, they wont be anything usefull. I then think why in the world did you chose to be a cleric if your not going to heal.

Issaic I don't see anything wrong with it if there were other clerics that could rev.

What I find funny is when in a party with 3 clerics and one tank and other person that I find myself the only one healing. I didn't say anything when this was happening cause one of them would occasionly heal. But then I died, which in turn led to the death of the tank, who in turn asked why I was the only one healing him. It was the honeying kq, you really do need the tank this one.

[Nerevar158]

Let me tell you one of the most explosive party style i've ever seen. (Only really works with high lvls XD)
Four mages and a cleric........nothing really survies two steps, especially if you are cruel and decide to attack the same thing......and if you have a tank mage or even cleric......can you imagine how devasting it would be for a mob to absorb 4 magic burst.....in half a second(even nova if you are 60+).
One word can describe this......... :O

I've even seen 5 tanks in a party -.- (low lvls, thougt it'd be funny to mention)

Sorry for going off topic XD, just trying to past the time.

[grinGhost]

I wish I could party with you guys, just to let u see that not all clerics are incompetent... just hampered by game limitation. Right now, i'm waiting for the server to be up and enter the shadow dungeon so'z i could have my rev skill.

For a story, well I'll just quote players comments on my Mara KQ...

:: What's that cleric fighting with Mara?
:: Don't care, he keeps us alive! <<-- my party member

I don't have any credentials to give you but my avatar's name: Albularyo, lv20

[Adenydd]

That drives me nuts... if she'd been in my party I would've totally booted her. XD

That happened to me in the Slime King run not long ago. A mage refused to cast. We told him to, he said "I miss anyway so what's it matter?" He spent the entire time running around and shouting about how he wanted to sell scrolls. Missing a lot can be annoying, but at least pretend to make an effort!

I really wish people would learn their roles in the KQ's. :/ Play however you want to play when you're solo'ing, but when you're in a KQ fighters need to hit, clerics need to heal, mages need to time hits so as to not pull aggro and archers need to not pull mobs that the group is not ready for. Anything additional you do is great--but every class has it's role for a reason.

[LyingSinner]

It's ok I dont mind going a bit off topic :D

I've never seen high level mages up close...I'm shy and rarely get invited to parties. Normally just go with friends or solo. I'm not that fond of mages in a party cause they have so low def. and its hard to heal them. No offence to mage classes.

In robo I always felt so bad for the mages they died so easily and then people rarely rev. them because they were all running around like they're heads were chopped off. (Only happens in bad noob kq). If mages were in my party I would keep a close eye on their health but they die...then i rev. them really fast though.

[seisor]

Well the Topic Should be changed to Wierd Partys/KQ and Occuations

[Nerevar158]

I really wish people would learn their roles in the KQ's. :/ Play however you want to play when you're solo'ing, but when you're in a KQ fighters need to hit, clerics need to heal, mages need to time hits so as to not pull aggro and archers need to not pull mobs that the group is not ready for. Anything additional you do is great--but every class has it's role for a reason.

-.- I only know two ways of attacking. All out or not at all. Can't time to not get aggro......

[Adenydd]

I've never seen high level mages up close...I'm shy and rarely get invited to parties. Normally just go with friends or solo. I'm not that fond of mages in a party cause they have so low def. and its hard to heal them. No offence to mage classes.


Good mages know how to be careful with their casts. We can pull aggro easy, but those who know the class know how to stay way the heck back and time blows so as to not get hit. It's easy to keep someone healed when the beastie doesn't touch them! ;)

[seisor]

It's ok I dont mind going a bit off topic :D

I've never seen high level mages up close...I'm shy and rarely get invited to parties. Normally just go with friends or solo. I'm not that fond of mages in a party cause they have so low def. and its hard to heal them. No offence to mage classes.

In robo I always felt so bad for the mages they died so easily and then people rarely rev. them because they were all running around like they're heads were chopped off. (Only happens in bad noob kq). If mages were in my party I would keep a close eye on their health but they die...then i rev. them really fast though.

I rather have a Mage in my party then a Fighter ^^ .. when I played on apoline before we used to have 3 mages ,1 archer (tank) and 1 cleric
The Archer put on tier 1 def scroll then we started to Aoe Orcs like it was slimes on lvl 10 ^^ if the mages just hit it doesn't matter how low def / hp it has, the mobs die before they get close enough!

[Nerevar158]

Good mages know how to be careful with their casts. We can pull aggro easy, but those who know the class know how to stay way the heck back and time blows so as to not get hit. It's easy to keep someone healed when the beastie doesn't touch them! ;)

No one needs to heal if the mob dies before it gets a chance to attack :D

[Adenydd]

-.- I only know two ways of attacking. All out or not at all. Can't time to not get aggro......

It helps if you know the level of your tank and how hard they're hitting. That's why I generally can't deal with Clanks... they can do a lot of damage, but they do it over a long period of time. One single cast from me and I outpower them and pull aggro. If you know how much (or about how much) damage your tank does, you can space out your casts so that you won't outdamage him in too short a time and pull the aggro.

[Adenydd]

No one needs to heal if the mob dies before it gets a chance to attack :D

Amen to that! :D

[Nerevar158]

It's ok I dont mind going a bit off topic :D

I've never seen high level mages up close...I'm shy and rarely get invited to parties. Normally just go with friends or solo. I'm not that fond of mages in a party cause they have so low def. and its hard to heal them. No offence to mage classes.

In robo I always felt so bad for the mages they died so easily and then people rarely rev. them because they were all running around like they're heads were chopped off. (Only happens in bad noob kq). If mages were in my party I would keep a close eye on their health but they die...then i rev. them really fast though.

I apologize in advance for posting so damn much.....

I'll tell you my experience in robo kq. If i was in it.....we'd win. Period. Even if they decided to attack Robo, we'd win.....robo would be still alive but we'd win XD.

[LyingSinner]

True about the mages, I've seen it happen...just not in the parties I'm in lol. I'm just unlucky enough not to find a lot of good mages. My friend is mage and he pulls aggro from me sometimes and he's awsome.

I kind of like duoing better then parties. kind of random but ok.

Yes, maybe the topic should be changed, oh well Kq losers is fine.

So who could solo robo kq?

[Nerevar158]

It helps if you know the level of your tank and how hard they're hitting. That's why I generally can't deal with Clanks... they can do a lot of damage, but they do it over a long period of time. One single cast from me and I outpower them and pull aggro. If you know how much (or about how much) damage your tank does, you can space out your casts so that you won't outdamage him in too short a time and pull the aggro.

Hehe yeah i know, but i still find it hard to hold back, i generally just take the aggro to the face and let it hit me. And i want to let the clerics know when this happens and i die, its NOT their fault. Stop blaming yourself.


Btw i only just read the bottom bit of your sig....LOL XD

[Nerevar158]

True about the mages, I've seen it happen...just not in the parties I'm in lol. I'm just unlucky enough not to find a lot of good mages. My friend is mage and he pulls aggro from me sometimes and he's awsome.

I kind of like duoing better then parties. kind of random but ok.

Yes, maybe the topic should be changed, oh well Kq losers is fine.

So who could solo robo kq?

LOL...i know that at my lvl in bijou i suck at duoing becoz of my +0 staff T.T
I still have as much int as a lvl 60ish mage which made me happy but yeah,,,,+9 would been nice.

As for soloing robo, i di do the kq once without a party.....i know that sounds pretty easy but when you are a crazy mage who aoes everything its a little bit more tricky. First time i ever really ran from a mob was in that kq. I dunt even run from mini dragon anymore XD. I CAN SURVIVE ONE HIT FROM IT.

[Adenydd]

Hehe yeah i know, but i still find it hard to hold back, i generally just take the aggro to the face and let it hit me. And i want to let the clerics know when this happens and i die, its NOT their fault. Stop blaming yourself.


Btw i only just read the bottom bit of your sig....LOL XD

Even the best pull aggro sometimes. I try and be careful but yanno, stuff happens. =P Crits can do it, the tank missing... lots of factors. I'm just paranoid about pulling aggro, biting the dust and having someone near me get hit because of it. XD

...and yes, I have to clarify all those points early on or I get some odd notes and conversations. I've been on the Internet too long methinks!

[LyingSinner]

Yay congrats on surviving the mini dragon hit. I like doing that kq, when I get in. People say its hard, but I think its a bit in the middle. Somewhat hard but can be easy.

Duoing with a cleric is fun when you are one. You can both attack and rarely need to worry about weather they're gonna die or not.

[Nerevar158]

Yay congrats on surviving the mini dragon hit. I like doing that kq, when I get in. People say its hard, but I think its a bit in the middle. Somewhat hard but can be easy.

Duoing with a cleric is fun when you are one. You can both attack and rarely need to worry about weather they're gonna die or not.

Mini dragon only works when at least 60% of the ppl know what they are doing, and when i say 60%, i mean the main tank. If the main tank is lost, all is lost.

And yeah once when i got hit by the mini dragon and survived i stopped attacking just to type 'IS THAT ALL YOU GOT DRAGON'. He killed me the next attack but i was happy.
Also survived two hits due to kick *** clerics. Got hit once and healed instantly, got hit again and i laughed. Then it got pulled away, D; i wanted to get hit again just to taunt it.

[LyingSinner]

Lol. Taunting the dragon will get you eaten. I can withstand the dragon when it flys...but I died when I got the aggro (not sure how that happened). Havent been able to get in for a while so I don't know if i could survive direct hit or not.

[Nerevar158]

Lol. Taunting the dragon will get you eaten. I can withstand the dragon when it flys...but I died when I got the aggro (not sure how that happened). Havent been able to get in for a while so I don't know if i could survive direct hit or not.

Bear in mine for me to survive i have to be full buff and scrolled XD. Not a end mage here D:
Only attack that kills me is that fire breath thing, but yeah it can stamp me or jump i'll laugh it off. Even if tanks get feared and it starts running towards me(not aiming at me but the archer behind me -.-) i'll stand my ground spamming it XD.

[LyingSinner]

I generally don't have to worry about dragon coming too near me or aggro...I stand in the back and look pretty....and heal but thats just a given.

When I do get the chance to attack though it was only cause I wasnt in a party that had a tank and none of us we're really getting hit.

[DemonEyeKyo]

lol nub cleric think its lame they have to heal everyone all the time and its not fair... they wanna bash thing like fighter n such... lol... well if u cleric... its ur role to heal... if u cant accept it i suggest u choose one of the other classes.... and well nub kq lotsa nub so u have to expect to heal urself... tough epith is a brand new server at least lotsa person playing there will be coming from the other server so they not totally new to all this.... well gluck on new server

[Nerevar158]

XD You could probably tank everything DemonEyeKyo......am i right or what?

[Adenydd]

XD You could probably tank everything DemonEyeKyo......am i right or what?

I heard he could take ur mom. ;p

[Reikansi]

i have a story :D lol not that bad but more like a rude fighter no names ^^ but it was in robo kq i got into a party with me as the only cleric, full party, everyone in my party was getting hit so its hard as the only cleric to heal everyone but i tried my best, this fighter died but she wasnt tanking and i tried to heal her but she died O.O then she started yelling at me and i tried to explain that everyone was getting hit and im the only cleric in the party and its hard, but she didnt care she wanted me to heal her and only her and i wasnt going to do that...everyone needs healed, so she went in the back of the room and sat there in her mushroom, then when it was time to leave that room she went out there and fought some and i healed then when she was running i was once again healing everyone and she died again and left the party...she was whining the whole time :(


i was in a similar robo situation....cept i wasnt the only cleric in the whole group..^ ^; i was just the only cleric in my pt and everyone one them was a DD.....well it was a fail from the start and one of the archer shouted at me i quote " Dude!! ur heal is disgusting!! y da hell did u become a cleric " omg >.< that ticked me off....i cant believe i was actually trying to keep him alive....well....im no longer mad v.v a cleric must learn to forgive....and im very amazed and glad that u won that almost impossible to win situation o.O im curious...it sounds as if in that robo it was a success

[xxgreyskysxx]

i was in a similar robo situation....cept i wasnt the only cleric in the whole group..^ ^; i was just the only cleric in my pt and everyone one them was a DD.....well it was a fail from the start and one of the archer shouted at me i quote " Dude!! ur heal is disgusting!! y da hell did u become a cleric " omg >.< that ticked me off....i cant believe i was actually trying to keep him alive....well....im no longer mad v.v a cleric must learn to forgive....and im very amazed and glad that u won that almost impossible to win situation o.O im curious...it sounds as if in that robo it was a success

wow this was a long time ago but yes it was a success..struggle..but we succedded

[Lythari]

Here are some of my rants:

1. If the boss character is 1 hitting you (or coming close to it), then STAY BACK. Why? Because clerics like me who try to keep everyone alive will have to take their focus off of the tanker, and use time and SP that could have gone to the tanker to either heal or rez you, only for you to go right back over to the enemy and repeat the FREAKIN' PROCESS. Either that, or no one rezzes you and you come here and start a cleric hate thread.

2. I don't care if this is the eighty-seventh time you have done a particular kingdom quest: YELLING AND BOSSING PEOPLE AROUND IS RUDE. Even if you think you know better, don't be one of those people who gets pissy and throws a fit when everyone doesn't do things your way. One fighter in a KQ I was in told everyone not to stun for the very stupid reasons that so many seemed to buy into. Well, thinking that I was helping, I told them that the myths about stun and aggro were total bogus; and people started stunning. Well, this particularly mature individual said.

"If you stun, I won't tank"

Well, she was the only capable tanker there...so what could we do?

People like that p1ss me off. She was willing to ruin it for everyone just because they weren't doing things her way.

3. Don't pull a boss character on a cleric while they are in mid rez. I've had that happen an annoying number of times, but that's a story for another day...

4. KNOW YOUR JOB.

Clerics: if there are lot of clerics, then this isn't so much of an issue so long as some heal. However, if there are only about two or three, then your job is to be the dedicated healers. Learn to cope with that and do your job.

Fighters: Doesn't matter if you are a tanker build or a DD build; if your a fighter, the chances are good that you will be asked to tank. Be prepared for that, and don't whine about having to do it.

Mages and ARchers: If you are pulling enemies, make sure everyone is ready for them. Mara is where this can really screw you over, but I have seen it turn for the ugly other times. Make sure everyone is ready before you pull, and try to coordinate your attacks so that you don't pull too many or the wrong enemies altogether.

5. Coordinate yourself, and PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT OTHERS SAY. ONe time in Mara, we pulled a fake. So I took it upon myself to lure her away and suicide, costing me 1 heart and two scrolls. However, after I pulled her a way and died, the MORONS kept attacking, and pulled her right back over; effectively making me waste 1 heart and 2 scrolls. The sad thing was that like 5 people were shouting to stop attacking, but these eejits just kept going and got some people killed. Even worse was the fact that OTHERS had to pay the price of their stupidity, while they lived and continued on to win it with no small part to the 3 fighters (including me, of course ;)), the cleric, and one archer. EVeryone else was either dead or stupid.