BR and Noobs

[SalaDarth]

Ok, First of, My name is Kanaseeda and you have most likly seen my shout or do something. But I am gonna adress something, that I just need to say.

I play a clr, and my friend plays a mage. All the bloody time, we get harassed for buffs, and debuffs.
Why we are lossing the exp is who knows how many morons went in to BR to get 1.3 mill Screaming "HELP ME WITH QUEST"

Sking said they were orginaly gonna keep the exp till they saw how many lvl 1 became 30 "under main general thread"

So where am I going with this?

To many people encourage behavior that is penalizing us.
I dont mind the 1.3 mill exp being lost, I can easily recover, its the fact of why it was done.
These people that cost us all this, and causing the trouble are the same idiotic people who run up in say urg or cp, going PTY PLZ. or running around asking for BUFF PLZ, DEBUFF PLZ, LEVEL ME..... or the famous, they run up and KS you asking for party invite.

What everone needs to do is just not help these people. They annoy, harass and down right make game play unenjoyable... I know several people that give into them just to shut them up.
It makes them want to do it again.

Also, all these people who are getting leveled quickly have no idea how to play there character correctly, so when they are in Aew say to speak saying "lvl 50 archer lfp" you invite them, and they have no idea how to us NP or pull, or anything because all they did was leech.
They dont know how to survive with out a buff or know how to even solo.
Then you get them in guilds based on their level, and they are complete morons demoralizing your guilds name.

So I am beseaching all the intellegent players that no longer tollerate or aid the beggers.
Dont level them, dont help them with simple quests (not talking about mara, Robo, GK, etc... that I can see help with), dont buff them, dont debuff them (make them learn to med threw poision) and for god sakes, dont let them take advantage of the game like with the BR quests. it helps no one if they dont know how to play there character correctly.


Also if you ever wonder why I dont buff people who run up, I think you are an idiot who has no idea how to play your character so your using the buff to go into a higher zone than you should be.

If anyone full supports what I am saying, please feel free to spread the word.

[technoismyescape]

amen.



ROFL.

[Tazzee]

I totally agree, well said.

[tormentor07]

us players who use the buff to save some money on stones? it REALLY helps us out alot. i am a 5x fighter lvl legitimately with no bs plvling. i solo orcs in uruga or archons or something in aew for solo grinding. i DONT do stupid stuff like trying to solo fos. i ask for buffs as a friendly request from one player to another. what about us who use the buff legitimately?

[kinsin]

haha im only a 45 well i guess i'll be 43 or maybe even 42 if they knock me for doing quests after i had completed br one... which would totally suck haha
i really don't have a problem soloing, i pretty much spend 90% of my time soloing just because people annoy me because i have a strange suspicion they don't know how to play lol, honestly how hard is it to play an archer solo... dots, run a bit let the hp go down on mob, turn around and shoot em up, use a stone or two... ez and though a buff helps you don't need it... if your going to beg for 20min you could make the 4-8s and buy a t2 vit scroll
luckily i do both ^^ i have friends that just buff me when they see me.. most the time i don't realize it lol
but wow, speaking of ks and party invite, TERRORHAWKS lol, half that guild is a mistake from birth.
I've had quite a few of their members come up to me in CP or Gob camp w/e and ks me n ask for party and when i tell em no they yell at me :( i tell em to fk off and they get more mad and they ks me some more then say "w/e" or something stupid :(

but yea i agree with ya on don't ever help these low levels, i think i've done it once b/c the guy sat their begging everyone for 3 kills to lvl and i felt bad for all of CP

[Gravvi]

marry me. I agree. I get onto people who go places where they can't solo and beg.

I know i got my mage and Fighter plvled by friends and yes i have issue's using them right(mainly fighter) I am regretting plvling. I did gain some lvl myself but still. Them begging teaches them nothing. Its like offereing a free plvling service like those spammers offer. People would offer 400S. If they havfe that they should be able to buy stuff to lvl properly.

[SalaDarth]

tormonto, I some times sit in eld or urg offering free buff.

But since you posted in here about beggers, I take it then you beg for a buff.
no, I just then think you are an idiot.
If one of 50 people that run up to me has a liget cause, how do I know its you that is the good??? lol think about that.
I have people Ks me and train me to get a buff.... yeah that really wants to make me buff people....
oh love the stalkers, they follow me for 5 minutes sending me tells while I am busy talking to friends and really cant spare my concintration.

um, thanks?
lol and how does it save stones? you still take the same damage. lol

[ThatDarnCat]

As I see it, the more people that quit the game over the loss of the Exp earned through abusing this bug, the better the game will be.

I play a number of games and there are always people (leeches) who beg for buffs because they really can't play the game. Leeches rely on the buffs and are unable to survive without them. Leeches beg for power leveling, money, gear and anything else they can get for free because they feel they are entitled to anything you aren't using right this moment.

Make Teva a better place and ignore the leeches. With any luck they will go somewhere else.

As an aside:
I always get a happy feeling when a Cleric buffs me randomly for no reason than they feel like it. I wish there was a system message saying who did the buffing so I could thank they properly instead of just shouting a generic thanks for the buff.

[SalaDarth]

generaly I buff people who I know to be good players, and do it when they dont ask for it.

lol get to know me. I happly buff people I know to be honorable.


But I love the fact that when I am talking about people begging for stuff,
some people go all defensive on why they do things..... lol obmission of guilt.

I am just saying we are losing the quest exp because of beggers.... if you want to explain your actions, then I just guess you are begger and I need not worry about you, other than avoid grouping with ya lol

[tormentor07]

tormonto, I some times sit in eld or urg offering free buff.

But since you posted in here about beggers, I take it then you beg for a buff.
no, I just then think you are an idiot.
If one of 50 people that run up to me has a liget cause, how do I know its you that is the good??? lol think about that.
I have people Ks me and train me to get a buff.... yeah that really wants to make me buff people....
oh love the stalkers, they follow me for 5 minutes sending me tells while I am busy talking to friends and really cant spare my concintration.

um, thanks?
lol and how does it save stones? you still take the same damage. lol

you dont know who has good intentions and who doesnt. ill giv you that. but, YOU are the idiot who cant spend all of 2 seconds to click on a skill. if you are fighting, then fine i know that ur busy and cant stop that. but if ur just in town, what difference does it make to you?

also it saves stones because the ratio of dmg taken to max hp is lower so i dont have to worry about dying as fast. for example, i cud take 5 hits to die form a monster no buff, but with a buff i could take 6 or 7.

[ThatDarnCat]

you dont know who has good intentions and who doesnt. ill giv you that. but, YOU are the idiot who cant spend all of 2 seconds to click on a skill. if you are fighting, then fine i know that ur busy and cant stop that. but if ur just in town, what difference does it make to you?
So you spend all day every day helping leeches? If not then you are showing the very same attitude leeches have. Or you are a hypocrite. Pick one.

[SalaDarth]

lol, um, if a buff matters that much to you, why are you making fun of me? gain a few cleric friends.

I dont buff beggers.

Ok then tormentor... here.
Your a mage. Level me and debuf me.
Your a Archer. Level me now!
Your a tank, level Me while I afk.

yeap I am a cleric, if you wanna say it takes 2 seconds and 200 of my sp.
I am gonna say do your class and do my work for me.. thank you lol

[kinsin]

That would be nice ^^ though my usual buffers are Saro, terrific, and OOOOshiny lol
having friends who do it is nice

[kinsin]

um, i know buffing must suck to do, really, its not just the click of a button and 200sp
ITS THE WHISPERS 400X lol, i hear it all day from friends and when im in parties "omg im getting whispered for buffs" while were fighting...
its ridiculous, hell i feel guilty when i pass a cleric and stop and they buff me, i feel like they assumed i was gonna ask for it... especially when i was gonna just afk n sell stuff :(

[tormentor07]

that there are plenty of clerics out there who are willing to buff ppl for a simple please. you are a pompous idiot who is feeling sorry for yourself because you think clerics have it oh so hard. if you dont like people asking for buffs make a different class. like it or not, there will always be people asking for buffs. people such as myself who ask nicely from one player to another are brought down my leechers and beggars.

[tormentor07]

So you spend all day every day helping leeches? If not then you are showing the very same attitude leeches have. Or you are a hypocrite. Pick one.

you dont understand what im saying. i ask someone for a buff. if they dont buff me, i move on. 99.999999999% of the time i ask for a buff nicely such as "can you buff me please" or something of the sort, they are happy to buff me. i do not stop to ask people who are fighting or healing a pt for a buff.

[SalaDarth]

lol tormo, your missing the point, atm alot is being effect because people just run up and give into begging. because people will run up and just do the buff at a please, because people will just power level...

you can also run up and rob a bank and say please.
just because you are capable of doing something does not make it right.

I am not saying buffing is robbing a bank, just saying encouraging the behavior that you are wanting, is not helping the game play.
Just because its "you" I dont know you, and if you get this tempermental because you need your fix to be able to play, really dont want too.

I refuse to encourage begging.

[tormentor07]

darth, all im tryin to say is that i attempt to make the cleric who buffs me feel appreciated. believe it or not some of us out there DO in fact appreciate the help you lend to parties and such.

[SalaDarth]

lol ok, the cleric will, but what does that then have to do with anything you said before? lol

[tormentor07]

what im trying to say is that i dont follow ppl and hound them for buffs. when i DO get a buff i attempt to make them feel aprreciated. i dont beg, and dont condone begging. and i do also appreciate the help that clerics offer to parties. trust me, ive been in many a failed pt attempt because we had no cleric.

[SalaDarth]

ok torm, but what on earth does that have to do with this thread???
I am saying disourage bad behavior, so you put bad behavior on the thread??????????

Ok thats what you do, thats nice... I still have no idea what your point is then.

[tormentor07]

wow ur right lmao i got a bit off topic. hahahha sorry about that. but we cool right bro?

[SalaDarth]

I think I am still too confused on why you did that... I am gonna go back to my gin and ponder.

'

Anyway. everyoen Else..

Spread the word!
Get drunk and chant it. Kill the BEGGERS!!!

err I mean stop it, discourage it, yeah that. dont... kill...
*hides gun*

[tormentor07]

lol yeah good idea. even though its wednesday night, lets start drinkin lmao.
*kill the beggars (and all that jazz(ive ALWAYS wanted to say that))*

[Shounen]

well, i think that clerics should give buffs but not to people acting like total beggars or idiot people who train others. If someone asked me for a buff, i'd buff them right away unless i don't like them. Most clerics are kind in the way that they give buffs but some are just annoying. I sometimes ask for a buff and they buff everyone else except me. I ask polite and only once for a buff but they don't care and act like i've been a nuisance and a noob, they act like i've been completely rude when they are quite rude to me. But yah, clerics have their own choice but i still would like buffs when i ask for them.