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leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:16 AM
Fiesta decided to waste our lvl and our hard working effect in BR.

for lvl 50 and above.

after quest, they up 1 lvl and get 45s. and they help their newbie friends.
they buy new skill, new eq, spent time almost 24 hour. i m sure those hight lvl ppls are not complaining about those" fair or not fair " they happy when they lvl up.

for lvl 1 to 50

after quest, they up more den 20 lvl and get 45s, they damn happy of cus.
any hight lvl ppl complain about low lvl up fast? NO ONE complained.

and now Dlvl and take back 45s by Fiesta

for lvl 50 above , can tell me who not happy with this?
here is the answer " everyone is not happy "

for lvl 1 to 50, can tell me who not happy with this?
" oh shut up.. of cus not happy "

so everyone is not happy for dlvl.. y Fiesta still doing this?

can they juz dont dlvl? u can take back 45s. but pls.. dont dlvl us.. its our effect and hard working.. we die and die and die in BR to get that reward. we waste alot exp if u take back that 1.3 million.. we will hv negative exp if u dlvl us. its wasted alot life and teva in BR.

can u pls re consider again?

dlvl is totally not fair for everyone.. dont juz look at one side Mr, Fiesta.
its all ur fault tat u nvr delete that quest and let everyone do. and when everyone done , u retrive everything...

pls pls.. its not our fault to get such a pain feeling... u are breaking players heart my dear fiesta.

tsj6k
02-28-2008, 04:20 AM
It was a pretty obvious bug - the level requirement stated lvl 79 specifically.

This falls under bug exploitation, and they would reverse it to be fair to players who didn't get the 1.3million EXP after their closure of BR (eg. took a few day break).

Skirmish
02-28-2008, 04:21 AM
You have to take into consideration that the quest took a lvl 1 instantly to the mid-30s. While you cannot have everyone happy with the result of this, it's beyond unfair for people starting out to leap to lvl 35 in one shot. It just creates a huge game imbalance. Outspark said they would only take the quest xp away, so just take the br grinding as regular grinding. I realize that there are aspects to this update that makes it frustrating for people that have completed the quest, but it is necessary to restore the balance between levels... otherwise you'd have a huge amount of lvl 30's that have gotten there in one go.

Duckula
02-28-2008, 04:22 AM
not one more topic about this >_<

mcvey56711
02-28-2008, 04:23 AM
i am SOOOOOOOOO glad i didnt do that quest, i thought about it too, but i saw the lvl requirment and was like oooo no way i can kill anything there XD

mcvey56711
02-28-2008, 04:24 AM
You have to take into consideration that the quest took a lvl 1 instantly to the mid-30s. While you cannot have everyone happy with the result of this, it's beyond unfair for people starting out to leap to lvl 35 in one shot. It just creates a huge game imbalance. Outspark said they would only take the quest xp away, so just take the br grinding as regular grinding. I realize that there are aspects to this update that makes it frustrating for people that have completed the quest, but it is necessary to restore the balance between levels... otherwise you'd have a huge amount of lvl 30's that have gotten there in one go.

ive been playing for like 2 weeks on this character and im still not lvl 30, so ya that is VERY unfair to the rest of us. its like plvling on steriods

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:27 AM
grinding exp?

grinding exp from BR was totally negative of my original. kill 5 spirit, die more den 10 times.

tsj6k
02-28-2008, 04:29 AM
grinding exp?

grinding exp from BR was totally negative of my original. kill 5 spirit, die more den 10 times.

You know that the quest was problematic.
No sane gamemaker will give a quest that will level a player from 1 to 30.

Be glad they didn't think the players were cheating, and delevel MORE than what the quest gave or suspend the users.

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:31 AM
i gonna see ppl who wear lvl 40 gear in mara KQ den..

sound fair

Skirmish
02-28-2008, 04:32 AM
In that case then, I'm sorry that you lost experience in br while you could've been levelling elsewhere. Again, as I stated before, there are some things outspark has decided to do because they believe that the results from rolling back xp from the br quest justifies the time people have lost. There was just far too much of an imbalance... to level from 1 to 35 in an hour or so is completely unfair to those lower levels that do not have access to higher level parties and encourages power lvling, and it is also unfair to those that are already at lvl 35 and above who have devoted days and weeks to getting there the hard way.

tsj6k
02-28-2008, 04:35 AM
i gonna see ppl who wear lvl 40 gear in mara KQ den..

sound fair

There is a limit to what they can do.
The server does checks on the equipment before they are equipped, not during.
Doing it during equip will be extremely intensive.

Oh sure, we can let them take one week (of downtime) to parse through every equipment equipped, and make sure it is level-matched.
That sounds soo much more attractive!

There's something called technical limitations.
Brains check, please.

ZombieMouse
02-28-2008, 04:35 AM
Ya it stinks loosing the 1.3 million xp but I wont loose sleep over it. LOL. Really I would rather have the roll back then have a newbie go from 1 to 39 after 1 quest and have no idea of what they are doing. Do you want a inexperienced cleric healing you in a grind???

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:36 AM
access to higher level parties ?

i hv lvl 50+ permenant party and i lvl my newbie cha with that party in uruga, and my newbie cha lvl 1 to 30, in 2 hours. sound fair?

so y dont u find high lvl friend to help u get to BR? sound fair?

Kaiza
02-28-2008, 04:39 AM
People, think about that quest is FOR LEVEL 79! So it is just normal that they take back. You all just used a bug to level fast instead of grind like all fair players [Maybe not all fair lol]

Skirmish
02-28-2008, 04:40 AM
I don't need to find a friend to help me get to BR--I can get there myself, thanks.

What I mean is that there are people at lower levels who do know about the bugged quest and whatnot, and they're likely to take advantage of it and ask for a party in uruga. Is it fair for other people of the same level who do not know about burning rock to watch their peers shoot 30 lvls up in one go? Not everyone has access to a lvl 50+ permanent party to level their alts, and besides, the majority of low level players are people new to the game.

klemzorz
02-28-2008, 04:42 AM
Well the thing that shocks me the most is that the major issue is that BR Area wasnt even suppose to be open, How long does it take to see such a major BUG?
They should have closed it right away but only seems like they dont even care about the game if it took em 2 days to recognize such a big issue.

ZombieMouse
02-28-2008, 04:43 AM
My greedy side is like "well I wont delevel so o well", some of us wont delevel from this but others stand to loose alot. So really it is a personnal opnion on the BR issue.

Kaiza
02-28-2008, 04:47 AM
I loose also 2,5h ~ 3h grind time with this quest... 5% so much T:_T

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:48 AM
yes is not fair that if they nvr take off that quest.

what i mean not fair is , they dlvl those who finsih quest.

its not fair between Fiesta and players who finsih quest.

it is juz like a event you know.. some event we didnt know and ppl get reward.
and some ppl get reward and become powerfull.

shill we say those event call " not fair" . .. no rite?
when the event is end, did any one retrive his reward? he did best for his rewards rite?

so in this BR issue.. everyone try their best to get reward.

some ppl cant get reward because they cant get hight lvl parties. so its the same as some ppl cant get reward in event cus they not good enought to participate.. will you say tat not fair? for me its totally fair.

ZombieMouse
02-28-2008, 04:52 AM
yes is not fair that if they nvr take off that quest.

what i mean not fair is , they dlvl those who finsih quest.

its not fair between Fiesta and players who finsih quest.

it is juz like a event you know.. some event we didnt know and ppl get reward.
and some ppl get reward and become powerfull.

shill we say those event call " not fair" . .. no rite?
when the event is end, did any one retrive his reward? he did best for his rewards rite?

so in this BR issue.. everyone try their best to get reward.

some ppl cant get reward because they cant get hight lvl parties. so its the same as some ppl cant get reward in event cus they not good enought to participate.. will you say tat not fair? for me its totally fair.

That is a good perspective also, could of treated it like an event, I missed the Valentines event and that is on me even though I want that 60 2h sword I seen yesturday I know it wont happend because I missed out. But I am not complaining either way, I ws stoked to see the BR map open and could not wait to do this quest I had been holding onto for 2 months, but o well....

Kaiza
02-28-2008, 04:53 AM
yes is not fair that if they nvr take off that quest.

what i mean not fair is , they dlvl those who finsih quest.

its not fair between Fiesta and players who finsih quest.

it is juz like a event you know.. some event we didnt know and ppl get reward.
and some ppl get reward and become powerfull.

shill we say those event call " not fair" . .. no rite?
when the event is end, did any one retrive his reward? he did best for his rewards rite?

so in this BR issue.. everyone try their best to get reward.

some ppl cant get reward because they cant get hight lvl parties. so its the same as some ppl cant get reward in event cus they not good enought to participate.. will you say tat not fair? for me its totally fair.

You think, it is so easy to fix quests? Then we would never have any quest buggs anymore lol! It is very hard fix things

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:53 AM
I don't need to find a friend to help me get to BR--I can get there myself, thanks.

What I mean is that there are people at lower levels who do know about the bugged quest and whatnot, and they're likely to take advantage of it and ask for a party in uruga. Is it fair for other people of the same level who do not know about burning rock to watch their peers shoot 30 lvls up in one go? Not everyone has access to a lvl 50+ permanent party to level their alts, and besides, the majority of low level players are people new to the game.

when i was lvl 1 started to play this Fiesta online.

there has many event around me, i didnt know how to participate. and i didnt get reward. and i didnt hv any parites. many ppls around me are the same as me.
and hight lvl ppl getting reward and i didnt. so should i say not fair for me? but i didnt..
if u consider about those who are low lvl and juz know about fiesta. u will feel everything is knot fair in this game...

Kaiza
02-28-2008, 04:55 AM
when i was lvl 1 started to play this Fiesta online.

there has many event around me, i didnt know how to participate. and i didnt get reward. and i didnt hv any parites. many ppls around me are the same as me.
and hight lvl ppl getting reward and i didnt. so should i say not fair for me? but i didnt..
if u consider about those who are low lvl and juz know about fiesta. u will feel everything is knot fair in this game...

Dude. We all started from lvl 1 and made EVERYTHING without such bugs. We had hard work to get to our current lvl and it is REALLY NOT FAIR to let others do a quest to pop up lvl 39 in few minutes or? lemme think i needed around 2 weeks to get 39 when Open Beta just started...

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 04:55 AM
You think, it is so easy to fix quests? Then we would never have any quest buggs anymore lol! It is very hard fix things

if i m not wrong, fix quest is not easy, but removeing quest is easy thought. i didnt ask them to fix ..

as long as the quest can not do, the event is call " End "

leonmusics
02-28-2008, 05:01 AM
Dude. We all started from lvl 1 and made EVERYTHING without such bugs. We had hard work to get to our current lvl and it is REALLY NOT FAIR to let others do a quest to pop up lvl 39 in few minutes or? lemme think i needed around 2 weeks to get 39 when Open Beta just started...

i did the quest 2 to 3 hours, not min.btw.

i m not complaining about bug.. i m comparing with events and this Br bug.

some GM make event is only suit for hight lvl or good parties. rite? some good for everyone. some good for only low lvl.

this BR bug is the same as juz like a good parties event.
once the bug is fix or remove. the event is " End "
when the event is end , some will get reward , some dont.
its fair for those who hard work to get reward.
its not fair to retrieve the reward.
its still fair for those who not participate in this event and didnt get reward.

hope u understand :)

Gravvi
02-28-2008, 05:11 AM
where did u see the lvl requirement. You can only see the lvl if u have quest list there. I didn't have quest list there and if ur not 60+ u most likely won't see it

KateeHellen
02-28-2008, 05:26 AM
leonmusic not all get rewards in events<i get only one time a reward from strange event near Roumen>because events have one big drawback LAG preventing of full enjoiment.
I was wondering lately how many people really done this BR quest?
I havent done this because for me this was illogical course fo action.
If i done this quest on my current lvl then i dont give him back when i someday hit 79 because once done he wont be repeat after hit certain lvl.
There is other catch of such Hyper leveling from 1-38 and i mean Shadow Quest on lvl 20.
Correct me if i am wrong but without him you are unable to use any lvl 2 items.
I knownt how hard is SQ on lvl 20 <7500 HP of my clone was not easy to beat whit lvl 15 weapon>, then imagine SQ at lvl 3x whit lvl 15 weapons.
Beside like i post in other thread doing this HL<hyper leveling> you miss all 3 lowlvl KQs<Slime, Mara, Gold Hill> and picture of Robo KQ whit such players who have no idea what they should do is really nightmare.
Its sad read post in style "Because they take away my XP from BR quest i quit...", calm down people in this game leveling is not MAIN goal, otherwise this type of game will not call MMORolePlayingGame only MMOLevelUpGame and i hope that recent events will be a good lesson for all players here that using shortcuts in way to lvl up not always paid up in good way...