View Full Version : see dont even tell us whats going on makes it worse
joecracker
02-28-2008, 10:00 AM
if you want us to understand things going on you need to tell us what is going on with teva
now my time tiems are ticking down because no maps are open to grind for my lvl
whats going be done about this, and dont tell me to sumbit a ticket, because i shouldnt have to, since you said time items will be added more time
so when will this happen?
and when do u expect us to be able to play the game
krazykris_2000
02-28-2008, 10:02 AM
Poor Joe....
*hugs*
*cries with you*
ChaosSeraph2
02-28-2008, 10:03 AM
I like the siggy Winter, changed it from being bored for so long? rofl
krazykris_2000
02-28-2008, 10:07 AM
ROFL
Thanks :p
I have NOTHING better to do right now :D
joecracker
02-28-2008, 10:08 AM
well its like this compnay is afraid to tell the customers whats going on
all we want is something told to us, is that so hard? its 10am, and not one single word from staff why they havent fixed teva
thanks guys for making your players mad, weather u cant controll whats going on or not you need to tell the players whats foinf on because if not thats bad CS
-Leona-
02-28-2008, 10:09 AM
Yeah thanks to that stupid mistake and their ridicoulous decision to punish all players over THEIR MISTAKES i probably lost around 35% grind even though i only did the quest in BR it seems all the xp i got in fos and aew after counted for nothing >.<.
If this was a first i would understand but they keep punishing us for their own mistakes WHICH are not even mistakes since they were well aware of all the issues.
They left us grind for 2 days than take back all the xp we got 1.3mil from the br quest than in my case another 4mils cuz they feel like messing with our characters. Not to mention i kinda lost a FULL MONTH leveling pack.
If it was that mistake they would've closed the server 1 hour after it was opened not 2 days after.
COMPENSATION how will they compensate for wasted time. U can make up for money and other thigns but u can't make up for WASTED TIME. Exp boos? lol i wish they had no xp boost cuz now there will be so many newbs in FoS and AeW that i will get less than 50% i would normally get without a so called xp boost.
They should've done whatever they had to close BR and not correct their mistakes by taking it on the people who actually support the game. ONCE again their definition of fixing things is kinda odd TO SAY THE LEAST.
smitske
02-28-2008, 10:29 AM
they couldnt close it cause they couldnt take decision,, and sopme got a day off
Also if you lost exp unless that for the BR quest, give proof to GM and im sure they fix it
blazshadowkill
02-28-2008, 10:32 AM
They honestly think not losing time on shop items and 50% increase in exp is going to make up for this crap. I honestly think they should be doing more
Mekoides
02-28-2008, 10:43 AM
They honestly think not losing time on shop items and 50% increase in exp is going to make up for this crap. I honestly think they should be doing more
EXACTLY what should they be doing?
joecracker
02-28-2008, 10:48 AM
everyone lost 10% no matter if they did it or not
now they are going have a headache fixing this all
thay only have themselfs to blame and if they dont wanna deal with all us pissed about it well to bad, they can only blame themselfs :)
time extended on items, maybe if they would have done this asap, but they havent, so whats going happen, how is this going work, are we going have to wait weeks? or waht, some items of mine run out today so yea thanks again guys for this
locomotion182
02-28-2008, 10:50 AM
COMPENSATION how will they compensate for wasted time. U can make up for money and other thigns but u can't make up for WASTED TIME. Exp boos? lol i wish they had no xp boost cuz now there will be so many newbs in FoS and AeW that i will get less than 50% i would normally get without a so called xp boost.
and what is newbz exactly? like 49? like that time u were a ***** to me on FOS.
adryden1313
02-28-2008, 10:53 AM
EXACTLY what should they be doing?
those that did it, did it...leave it the way it is...lock the gates take away the quest. Dakkon was THERE all he said was that they were closing BR that it was a mistake that it was opened, that it was opened too soon..he never ONCE mentioned "Hey guys dont complete the quest cuz once they close it they're just gonna take it away from you anyway" It's not our fault every nub under the moon went and got seriously plvled and screwed the balance, not even sure WHOS fault it is. But the damage has already been done, and further damage is BEING done by penalizing everyone and stripping them of xp, money, skills and whatever else. I stand by what I have said in the forum last night, if we had the locks on the gates before like we have been begging for months *see past threads/petitions* this issue NEVER would have happened with so many lower levels jumping 15 to 20 levels
Gravvi
02-28-2008, 10:54 AM
i lost 50% X( but yea that is half my lvls worth of exp so i am not too worried about hte exp. THe boost is for 4 days for 1 day of BS. That can be used to the advantage. Yes my 2 hrs in BR are gone but anyway.
I am mad tha tmy BoT runs out in like 4 hours
Frozenarrow
02-28-2008, 11:03 AM
Don't you think they should of worked out that people like leona, who can actually DO the quest normally without someone twice their level should be able to keep their stuff... sure take it away from me and the ones who got help but the one who can do it... thats just wrong... and yipeeeee 50% boost >.< 50% = more people decididng to grind = less mobs for everyone = less exp = no point doing that.
please think of something else to compensate.
thank you.
Mekoides
02-28-2008, 11:24 AM
those that did it, did it...leave it the way it is...lock the gates take away the quest. Dakkon was THERE all he said was that they were closing BR that it was a mistake that it was opened, that it was opened too soon..he never ONCE mentioned "Hey guys dont complete the quest cuz once they close it they're just gonna take it away from you anyway" It's not our fault every nub under the moon went and got seriously plvled and screwed the balance, not even sure WHOS fault it is. But the damage has already been done, and further damage is BEING done by penalizing everyone and stripping them of xp, money, skills and whatever else. I stand by what I have said in the forum last night, if we had the locks on the gates before like we have been begging for months *see past threads/petitions* this issue NEVER would have happened with so many lower levels jumping 15 to 20 levels
Well, think of it this way. Anyone who did the quest and got the 1.3m exp has exploited a bug. It's a lvl 79 quest and anyone not lvl 79 has comitted a crime that, in the EULA, can result in an immediate permanent account ban. They obviously can't ban every person who did the quest, because it was Outspark's fault the bug was so readily exploitable. This is taking away something you got BY VIOLATING THE TERMS OF SERVICE. Yes, it's a bummer, but people need to earn their levels, not have them given for an hour of grinding with a super high level to EXPLOIT A BUG.
Serric
02-28-2008, 11:48 AM
Hmmm.... correct me if I am wrong, but everyone knew the quest was there and potentially bugged, but it wasn't a big deal because BR wasn't opened yet. Then everyone demanded - didn't ask, didn't request, but DEMANDED with a threat of leaving the game that BR be opened. So, although I never thought it a wise idea, they opened it up per the demands of people who A) wanted a new area now and B) people who wanted to complete that quest, although they knew it was bugged.
Now they have closed it off and reversed the xp for those that took advantage of the exploit (everyone who completed the quest, actually - whether they were of an acceptable level or not from what I understand - the most fair resolution possible) and now everyone’s complaining again? I don't understand.
Those lvl 70's that did the quest and got the xp are complaining because a lvl 10 managed to get it and leap to lvl 40. Should they be rolled back? I think so. However, rolling back a mass of individual players as opposed to the server as a whole is inane. It is much more effective and time efficient, not to mention fair to everyone, to roll back everyone.
Should there be compensation? If it were up to me, nothing more than an apology for the inconvenience. Why? See the first paragraph. Most of the people complaining brought this about on themselves. Not everyone, and I admit that, but most.
Will there be compensation? Possibly. OutSpark is very vested in the happiness of its community (hence the gates being opened early) and the fairness of the game. Some people may be compensated. Maybe everyone will, even those who were not affected by this. Who knows?
All I can say is this: what happened was a direct result of the pressure placed upon by the community of players to rush the release of an in-game event that, for all sense and purposes, was not ready yet. OutSpark held it back as much as they could but in the spirit of customer service bent to the will of your demands. In the end, who is to blame, really?
I realize that this will fall on some very deaf ears. So be it. This is my personal opinion and is not affiliated with OutSpark in any way. If you disagree with what I am saying, that is fine. All I ask of you and everyone on these forums is think before you shout, and fashion all comments and responses in a calm, civil manner.
Thank you.
EDIT:
Please read the following carefully. Those who did not take advantage of a known bug were not affected. Therefore, the argument against OutSpark's action is, in my mind, moot.
Attention Players,
Maintenance will be delayed 2 hours on Apoline, Teva and Bijou. ALL ACTIVE PREMIUM ITEMS WILL BE EXTENDED TO COMPENSATE THE LOSS OF TIME FOR ALL SERVERS..
Upon return of service EXP Rate will be increased by 50% on all servers until Monday 11am (PST).
We recognize the imbalance that the next patch may cause and we want to take every precaution possible to make sure all is fair.
Burning Rock will be closed (This was not intended to be open at this time)
If you did not complete a Burning Rock quest, you are not affected.
If you completed a Burning Rock quest, below is how you are affected:
- Exp acquired while "grinding" in Burning Rock will NOT be removed
- Newly acquired Skills will not be saved if skill is above your level
- Stats will not save if your level is lower than the stats accumalated exceeds the level allowed
- Money spent on skills will be refunded.
- Armor/Weapons bought that are equipped will remain equipped and usable until un-equipped. Once un-equipped, you will be required to meet the level requirement.
We apologize for the inconvenience and lengthy maintenance but it is required in order to "make things right". As usual, we thank you for your continued patience.
Thank you,
-Outspark Staff
smitske
02-28-2008, 11:54 AM
well said serric, also i was agaisnt opening.
3rd there is compensation+50% exp
Mekoides
02-28-2008, 11:58 AM
I totally agree Serric. I do think, however, they should re-open BR after the bugged quest is removed and acceptable only by lvl79. As a lvl 68 cleric, I was able to solo there easily and got very good exp. It would really help with the congestion on AEW and FOS.
smitske
02-28-2008, 12:03 PM
i would suggest opening with also a lock, lvl 65 or 70+
Serric
02-28-2008, 12:07 PM
I totally agree Serric. I do think, however, they should re-open BR after the bugged quest is removed and acceptable only by lvl79. As a lvl 68 cleric, I was able to solo there easily and got very good exp. It would really help with the congestion on AEW and FOS.
i would suggest opening with also a lock, lvl 65 or 70+
Both of those seem like sound ideas.
XpierulesX
02-28-2008, 12:13 PM
Why is anyone even complaining? I bet half the ones are were some that did the quest.
Zixia
02-28-2008, 12:23 PM
All I can say is this: what happened was a direct result of the pressure placed upon by the community of players to rush the release of an in-game event that, for all sense and purposes, was not ready yet. OutSpark held it back as much as they could but in the spirit of customer service bent to the will of your demands. In the end, who is to blame, really?
Hey Serric,
IMO I do not believe BR was released because of pressure from the NA fiesta community. NO amount of pressure given to OutSpark by the community would have amounted to OutSpark opening BR when it wasn't ready to be played in.
Here is what I think happened. OutSpark was given the latest code for Fiesta but was not alerted that the gates to BR were unlocked. Hence all these problems. So in the end, I do not fault the community for all their DEMANDS of opening BR because I do not believe the fault is ours to begin with.
TheCentrix
02-28-2008, 12:26 PM
They honestly think not losing time on shop items and 50% increase in exp is going to make up for this crap. I honestly think they should be doing more
It wasnt their fault in the first place just for your information
Zixia
02-28-2008, 12:26 PM
My official question here since the other thread was closed. http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49691&page=3
I made a new post because I do not want my post to be lost in millions of other threads about BR closing down. I don't expect any of you (GMs) to answer because I'm sure your orders come from "higher-ups", but I wanted to voice my thoughts anyways. Plus you can include this in your next community report to your superiors.
My question to OutSpark is why did it take so long for YOU to bring the servers down when you noticed that BR should not have been open and that YOUR community was using a broken quest that had been in the game for well over a month to easily gain levels? Why were the servers not brought down immediately as soon as you found out to prevent this chain of events from happening? It took you close to 24 hours to decide that BR had to be closed and that the xp gained from the quest would be removed...
You did neither of the following and it is why your community is upset, you didn't alert them that BR was not suppose to be opened in that patch and thus any XP gained from BR could possibly be removed. Instead you decided to sit in your office and decide for 24 hours on what to do about this fiasco.
IMO the servers should have been brought down as soon as you found out about BR and the quest but you didn't, instead you let it play out for 24 hours. I believe your community would have been much happier if you had explained to them why the servers were being brought down as soon as you found out. Even if it took you 48 hours to get a patch from Korea, it should have been done. It is not like your community has never experienced downtime before -- we're actually fairly use to it.
-Zix
Serric
02-28-2008, 12:30 PM
Hey Serric,
IMO I do not believe BR was released because of pressure from the NA fiesta community. NO amount of pressure given to OutSpark by the community would have amounted to OutSpark opening BR when it wasn't ready to be played in.
Here is what I think happened. OutSpark was given the latest code for Fiesta but was not alerted that the gates to BR were unlocked. Hence all these problems. So in the end, I do not fault the community for all their DEMANDS of opening BR because I do not believe the fault is ours to begin with.
Although your statement makes sense, and I want to give you that (and you may be very correct to boot) the fact is OS indeed was under pressure to open BR. Whether or not that had a major role in the actual opening is debatable.
Still, the fact is this: people rushed to take advantage of a known bug and are now being punished for it in the most fair way imaginable. Regardless of who is actually to blame (we may never really know) OS took the initiative in compensating people as best they can - please realize that some people who bought/received gears and weapons at the higher level are still able to use these items until they are unequipped. This, to me, is simply amazing.
So, although the community may not be wholly to blame for what happened, I think we are equally to blame as much as OutSpark. It would behoove us all to stop pointing fingers and simply move forward, ya?
EDIT: I would like to add a reponse by SKiNG in (yet) another duplicate thread on the issue as I feel it is relevant to this discussion:
Omg, we have an evil plot to take over the world...
Seriously though, I did read the whole thing and that was an interesting theory.
But no, that's not true. So you openly admit that you took advantage of the situation? You really think that makes your argument or anyone elses situation better?
Given the situation, we made all necessary steps to effectively reverse the situation with the least amount of loss. There are give and takes. We risk some things in hopes for a better long term. You don't see the numbers... I do...
But your opinion is definately noted.
Zixia
02-28-2008, 12:39 PM
I am in total agreement that the XP and rewards gained from that quest should be taken back. What I don't undersand (klem as well) is why it took so long for OS to take action; to bring the servers down so no one else would further exploit the quest.
EDIT: I did read that reaponse by SKING earlier. But again if they knew about it why was something not done right away to prevent the chain of events that have happened?
Serric
02-28-2008, 12:54 PM
I am in total agreement that the XP and rewards gained from that quest should be taken back. What I don't undersand (klem as well) is why it took so long for OS to take action; to bring the servers down so no one else would further exploit the quest.
EDIT: I did read that reaponse by SKING earlier. But again if they knew about it why was something not done right away to prevent the chain of events that have happened?
Perhaps they couldn't. ::shrug::
I find it hard to believe they would willingly allow a known disaster to exist longer than they had to. But I am not them, so I cannot say for certain.
Zixia
02-28-2008, 12:57 PM
I know. No company would want a disaster on their hands. Their decision to close it and roll the xp back was the correct one IMO but took them way to long to put it into action.
Paleran
02-28-2008, 01:06 PM
My uneducated guess as to why they took so long? They were trying to figure out the reason it got opened accidentally in the first place. Rather than band-aiding the problem, they found the root of the issue, fixed it, and then put the wheels in motion for how to resolve the issue of all the people who exploited the quest. Which, I must say, they have done a pretty fantastic job of. Most games would have simply rolled the database back to pre-patch and given the middle finger to the community. They actually tried to balance the lost time with the punishment of those exploiting the quest in a fair way. Props to OS for that.
In my opinion, they have done the right thing here. It was a mistake, they admitted it to it being a mistake, and they did what they could to correct it. Would you rather they have taken the servers down as soon as they figured this out for as long as it took to resolve the issue? We might still be waiting for the servers to come back up if so. At least this way, those of us who recognized the problem said "Well, I'm just going to do my thing like normal."
Zixia
02-28-2008, 01:09 PM
In my opinion, they have done the right thing here. It was a mistake, they admitted it to it being a mistake, and they did what they could to correct it. Would you rather they have taken the servers down as soon as they figured this out for as long as it took to resolve the issue? We might still be waiting for the servers to come back up if so. At least this way, those of us who recognized the problem said "Well, I'm just going to do my thing like normal."
Actually ...yes I would rather they did take the servers down till they made their decision as to what to do.
joecracker
02-28-2008, 01:17 PM
this was not about the clsoing of BR, thie was the even more dely and why the teva server was even loger for all maps, sorry if this confused some
again was not about BR
It was about when teva came back on, was the only server i beleive to have most of its maps down for 1+ more hours
Serric
02-28-2008, 02:03 PM
this was not about the clsoing of BR, thie was the even more dely and why the teva server was even loger for all maps, sorry if this confused some
again was not about BR
It was about when teva came back on, was the only server i beleive to have most of its maps down for 1+ more hours
As for your items, have you sent a PM to the GMs to see if you will be compensated for downtime in relation to your preminum items?
BlueberryCheescake
02-28-2008, 02:10 PM
I suggest you send them a pm. XD
Stop the blame game please. It's not really helping. Thank you :)
Edit: Oops the second statement wasn't meant for the thread starter, it was for the one who said that "it's Outspark's fault etc. etc." ...as if that's gonna help.
Zixia
02-28-2008, 02:28 PM
I suggest you send them a pm. XD
Stop the blame game please. It's not really helping. Thank you :)
Edit: Oops the second statement wasn't meant for the thread starter, it was for the one who said that "it's Outspark's fault etc. etc." ...as if that's gonna help.
And how are you helping? We're free to express our thoughts as you are with yours.
Serric
02-28-2008, 02:31 PM
Are you helping? We're free to express our thoughts as you are with yours.
Yes, they are helping.
Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion - everyone. My only request is if a comment is made, pro or con, it is done in a manner which is civil and courteous and moves the subject forward.
A player asking others in the thread to adhere to the above is always helpful.
EDIT: In fact, this thread is nearing its end as far as I can tell. Statements have been made, apologies given, and OutSpark has made it clear where they stand. At this point "who is to blame" is really a non issue.
However, I will leave this thread open a little longer to see if anyone indeed does have anything genuine to contribute. I will check back in a few hours. If I see posts that move the subject forward (i.e. not a he said/she said post) I will leave the thread open longer. If not, I will close it and consider it a very expired equine.
dragonslayer26
02-28-2008, 02:38 PM
As for your items, have you sent a PM to the GMs to see if you will be compensated for downtime in relation to your preminum items?
Ohhhh , so now everything is messed up and we are supossed to send the
GM a pm to be "answered in the order received"!!! How long is that gonna take. I am or was a lvl 65 mage. I bought 500s worth of skills to have them taken back (fine) I refuse to WAIT A MONTH to get money back. OH, we will raise exp for the weekend by 50%. ( how many people do you think are going to flood the maps now ) and The exp. you gained "grinding" will not be taken away from you ( ARE YOU SURE ) I grinded lots after that stuped quest not even worth that much to me. This has caused a big headache and proven the unorganization of this staff and the leaders. As for the CL's with the simplistic sugarcoated responses to every thread with a complaint. ( come one be realistic) So basiclly thanks for wasting 2 days of my game playing and basiclly borrowing 500s for a month.
Zixia
02-28-2008, 03:08 PM
Hey S,
May I make a suggestion, for you to leave at least one thread open for the community to vent. Even if the OS Staff do not reply as long as the thread is civil there is no reason to close it down regardless of how many opinions have been expressed. If you shut them (community) up by closing every thread about the topic IMO it does not help the situation.
TY
lewellyn
02-28-2008, 03:10 PM
So basiclly thanks for wasting 2 days of my game playing and basiclly borrowing 500s for a month.
Combined with the issues from patch 1.2.79, most of the past week's been a waste for me. :( And in my thread about silver not being reimbursed (I had to buy skills I had before BR, btw), I was told to email support. Last time I tried that, I got no response... What's to make me think I'll get one when they're inundated? :mad:
XpierulesX
02-28-2008, 03:17 PM
They should just give it back to the level 30s+..
dragonslayer26
02-28-2008, 03:19 PM
They should just give it back to the level 30s+..
ROFLMAO 30+ I think not MAYBE 60-70+
Serric
02-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Hey S,
May I make a suggestion, for you to leave at least one thread open for the community to vent. Even if the OS Staff do not reply as long as the thread is civil there is no reason to close it down regardless of how many opinions have been expressed. If you shut them (community) up by closing every thread about the topic IMO it does not help the situation.
TY
I agree. This is why I am trying to leave this thread open. However, in order for it to adhere to the forum rules it can't just turn into a vent thread. As long as the conversation keeps moving forward, I have no qualms about leaving it open. Multiple or duplicate threads will be closed - however, I will attempt to direct them to this thread in the meantime.
I hope you understand what I am saying.
Ohhhh , so now everything is messed up and we are supossed to send the
GM a pm to be "answered in the order received"!!! How long is that gonna take. I am or was a lvl 65 mage. I bought 500s worth of skills to have them taken back (fine) I refuse to WAIT A MONTH to get money back. OH, we will raise exp for the weekend by 50%. ( how many people do you think are going to flood the maps now ) and The exp. you gained "grinding" will not be taken away from you ( ARE YOU SURE ) I grinded lots after that stuped quest not even worth that much to me. This has caused a big headache and proven the unorganization of this staff and the leaders. As for the CL's with the simplistic sugarcoated responses to every thread with a complaint. ( come one be realistic) So basiclly thanks for wasting 2 days of my game playing and basiclly borrowing 500s for a month.
If you want a short answer: yes, you are.
I am not attempting to sugarcoat anything. BR was opened in error for a myriad of reasons, some by fault of the community, some not. The quest was known to be bugged and yet several people still took advantage of it. OutSpark reacted in what I can only say is not only fair but highly appropriate and that is the way it is.
As for your missing silver, you have two options at this point.
1: Post on the forums and hope someone fixes it for you, or;
2: take the initiative and send a cordial and civil PM to one of the GMs or CSRs requesting when you can expect your refund.
I hope you find this saccharine free enough to your tastes. :)
Feel free to PM me if I can be of further assistance.
Konastuff1800
02-28-2008, 03:24 PM
I am also furious i was 38% tnl and now im 50% tnl i also lost over 300s and i belive the BR quest was only 45s and the xp only gave about 9%...i also did 2 of my quest worth about 1.1 million o and guess what i lost the money and xp for that to >:O and star is right xp yah thatd gonna help more grinding...great,there is nothing you can do to make up that lost time unless you wanna give us our Xp back but im pretty sure that not going to happen...I am also mad that for all of us 60+ ppl and even 50+ who can actually do that quest alone we should get the reward not like the leeching lvl 1's. I did that quest and probably lost about 2 hrs now. plz reward us back for our hard work and not with a stupid xp boost.... :D.
todd0168
02-28-2008, 03:29 PM
Ok, I was not going to reply to any of these threads but I have had it with all the whining and bishing. First of all, those quests have been a known bug since the day they showed up, seeing as how they belonged to a map that was nowhere near existence when they first showed. Secondly, the timer on the cash shop items has been moved on some of the items. Most of my items that were expiring on the 14th of March now expire on the 15th. But as for the experience, get over it. You only lost exp cuz you did the quest you shouldn't have. I went to BR and I explored with friends. Went into the mine and explored more. Gained my level to 62 and what do you know, when I logged in today and I am still level 62. I did not lose any experience from just grinding so I doubt you did either. You all just need to get over the fact that they undid an unintended exploit that lots of people took advantage of. It's done, deal with it. Either go back out and start grinding again, or just quit and leave us that still enjoy the game alone, but what ever you decide, please quit flaming the forums about it.
*gets off soapbox and goes back to enjoying the rest of the forums*
ryuarashi
02-28-2008, 03:40 PM
Ok, I was not going to reply to any of these threads but I have had it with all the whining and bishing. First of all, those quests have been a known bug since the day they showed up, seeing as how they belonged to a map that was nowhere near existence when they first showed. Secondly, the timer on the cash shop items has been moved on some of the items. Most of my items that were expiring on the 14th of March now expire on the 15th. But as for the experience, get over it. You only lost exp cuz you did the quest you shouldn't have. I went to BR and I explored with friends. Went into the mine and explored more. Gained my level to 62 and what do you know, when I logged in today and I am still level 62. I did not lose any experience from just grinding so I doubt you did either. You all just need to get over the fact that they undid an unintended exploit that lots of people took advantage of. It's done, deal with it. Either go back out and start grinding again, or just quit and leave us that still enjoy the game alone, but what ever you decide, please quit flaming the forums about it.
*gets off soapbox and goes back to enjoying the rest of the forums*
Lol I agree.
At first I admit I was alittle disheartened, I had enjoyed my archer being over 40 lol, so I could actually take time and grind on my tank.
But then the more I thought about it, the more I came to realise that alot of really low lvl's did the quest and jumped insane amounts.
Most of mine only lvl'd like 2 lvls, not seemingly that big of a deal. Never thought lvl 1 characters would do the quest, normally they dont even know uruga yet.
I think that its been a bit chaotic, and theres still a bit of fixing to do (still have all the stat pts), OS made the right choice.
I mainly just did the quest for fun, figuring they would take it away later or something. Didnt really know what would happen to be honest, and I didnt see that it was for lvl 79.
Anyway, concidering that BR wasnt supposed to be out yet, and the quest wasnt supposed to be out yet...And most of us knew that...
Really I think we are lucky that they didnt A.) Wipe the servers and start over, B.) Completely roll back the servers to before the patch or C.) Ban all the people who did the quest.
Concidering all the other options that they had, they are being extremely generous with the rewards we are getting (IE Getting to use the new eq, and the 50% exp boots (which so far I have not encountered abnormally swamped grinding maps from))
Really I think we are all lucky to have what we got, and not loosing more. Yes there will be issues at first with the game, like the stats not being set back yet, but they will be worked out slowly.
Most people dont realize how complicated game coding is, one extra . or , and the game can completely crash, or places open that shouldnt have opened. It can take hours and days to fix errors and even alter coding.
Be patient I say, and enjoy the bonus experiance and having some higher equips on. They will work on things like cash shop items (Mine were pushed up a day) and the stat points (God I hope anyway). Just enjoy and remember this is a FREE game and its a fairly new game. Bugs still need to be worked out, and the staff need not to be harassed because of one silly mistake. (Now extra drops....just a suggestion ^^)
Edit: Sry if I babbled a bit, Im just kinda tired of people complaining. Not that I didnt at one point, before I really thought about it all.
Edit 2: Oh and BTW FaeFae I hate you :P 62 already...... :*(
Edit 3: One thing is...I did seem to have a bit more exp than I do now. I did the quest, didnt turn in and went to grind a bit. Before I turned in I had 50-51%. When I logged in this morning I had 46%. Not really a big deal for me, but thought Id mention it.
todd0168
02-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Edit 2: Oh and BTW FaeFae I hate you :P 62 already...... :*(
^.^
And with the exp boost this weekend Imma try to hit 63. lolz
ryuarashi
02-28-2008, 03:49 PM
^.^
And with the exp boost this weekend Imma try to hit 63. lolz
waaaaa
take me with you :P
no one will pt me....
I dc too much :*(
Paleran
02-28-2008, 03:49 PM
Actually ...yes I would rather they did take the servers down till they made their decision as to what to do.
Sorry, was distracted with that four letter word.... work
You really would rather they take ALL servers down for 3-4 days while they work on a problem behind the scenes with most likely not enough communication to the community? Can you IMAGINE the flaming on the forum if they did that??? If *EVERYONE* on the game couldn't play because of this issue... Think about that for about 2 seconds and you'll realize they did the right thing here which was *ALOT* more work and stress for them.
I take it on a leap of faith that they knew about this problem way before the large majority of us did. We've seen rumors that Dakkon specifically said he knew about it shortly after the patch. If anything, I say that the community let Outspark down here by EXPLOITING a bug that anyone who has been to Uruga even once knows about. Don't flame them for trying to undo this wrong the best way they know how.
Akio950
02-28-2008, 03:59 PM
See what's wrong? >< I had 245s, when I logon i had 196s :(
I spent 245s on skills ><
klemzorz
02-28-2008, 04:24 PM
Well Perhaps its different for each server I dunno.
I am not angry anymore about the actions they did to TRY and balance things, fine take the bloody exp back and luckily I didn't buy any skills, but at the same time I didn't equip new gears and sold my old ones so basically im screwed but hey thats not important cuz im not the majority right?
I guess what makes me angry is the fact that:
1. There was a post about those bugs in the Bug section so they cant deny they didn't know about it, or perhaps they can but I guess that means they don't really care that much about the stuff that is going on. So I don't know whats worse? Ignoring things or not even checking em?
2. What took em so long to close it? when GM Dakkon himself told to some ppl who were exploring the BR area, in the same day it was opened, that BR is about to be closed soon. this is directly connected to num 1.
3. What about the Stats? are they fixed? I really don't know..can they be fixed? or we will have super chars walking around among us?
I would rather wait a full day for it ALL to be fixed properly than bits by bits like a leaking pipe.
And another thing that perhaps might make people angrier is the fact they don't really announce whats going on but let players linger, I mean players are waiting for answers or just for notification so you'd be able to know whats going on and not left in the mist, anyways a lot of people are more than angry and lost the fun part for a while and it is not known well will it come back.
Fun is composed of many variables so perhaps you can keep on going like nothing happened while other cant stop sulking about it, seems like the higher lvls are less angry cuz this doesn't affect em so much..whats another 1.3m? perhaps just the CS items and the money concerns em but I guess even the high lvls are angry, anyways majority majority majority bla bla, if you wanna know whats best for the majority do a poll.
But that wont be the right choice cuz we don't want the players to choose.
Anyways this was quite a major crisis.
And hey so what if it became too dramatical, some drama in your life can be good to spice things up, or just save the drama for your mama either way it is easy to witness a major flaw and can only hope such event will not happen again.
csr_hal
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
*sigh*
folks, when we have something useful to say, we will post it. please remember we are very busy and we take care of the top priorities first.
heck, i've been running non-stop all day and just now got a chance to look at the forums. and my day is almost over now ><
and fyi, some of the outspark were up all night working on things. they didn't get to go home. so please be a little more understanding in the future, OK?
well its like this compnay is afraid to tell the customers whats going on
all we want is something told to us, is that so hard? its 10am, and not one single word from staff why they havent fixed teva
thanks guys for making your players mad, weather u cant controll whats going on or not you need to tell the players whats foinf on because if not thats bad CS
joecracker
02-28-2008, 06:03 PM
we understand this, but it takes 5 mins to just wrtie something, this isnt the first time we been left in the dark, whates done is done, i was just sad to see no one come in to tell us about teva something like folkd of teva the maps will be up shortly we are sorry about this, something to that line
its not something u have to do i understand, but it shows goof CS if you do is all :)
thats the whole point of this topic, as i was the topic starter u may now close this if you like :)
Bjorli
02-28-2008, 06:26 PM
Yeah thanks to that stupid mistake and their ridicoulous decision to punish all players over THEIR MISTAKES i probably lost around 35% grind even though i only did the quest in BR it seems all the xp i got in fos and aew after counted for nothing >.<.
If this was a first i would understand but they keep punishing us for their own mistakes WHICH are not even mistakes since they were well aware of all the issues.
They left us grind for 2 days than take back all the xp we got 1.3mil from the br quest than in my case another 4mils cuz they feel like messing with our characters. Not to mention i kinda lost a FULL MONTH leveling pack.
If it was that mistake they would've closed the server 1 hour after it was opened not 2 days after.
COMPENSATION how will they compensate for wasted time. U can make up for money and other thigns but u can't make up for WASTED TIME. Exp boos? lol i wish they had no xp boost cuz now there will be so many newbs in FoS and AeW that i will get less than 50% i would normally get without a so called xp boost.
They should've done whatever they had to close BR and not correct their mistakes by taking it on the people who actually support the game. ONCE again their definition of fixing things is kinda odd TO SAY THE LEAST.
LMAO, how can you lose a FULL MONTH LEVELING PACK, from 2 days. Thats just too silly..
XpierulesX
02-28-2008, 06:27 PM
How about the people that became 40+ get the exp back? Problem solved.
Bjorli
02-28-2008, 06:32 PM
How about the people that became 40+ get the exp back? Problem solved.
Looks at your sig.... wow big surprise there, problem fixed for you right? lmao
Serric
02-28-2008, 06:38 PM
The original author has requested this thread closed and so it shall be.
Please, I do not want to see more threads on this subject opened. It has been, in my mind, sufficinelty beaten. If any of you have any questions, please direct yourselves to SKiNG's Thread (http://www.outspark.com//forums/showthread.php?p=425422#post425422)
Thank you.