DD cleric????!?

[Sheraka]

ok im a DD cleric and people are always complaining about how i "dont heal" and if theres only 2 clerics in a KQ ill heal but im MUCH MUCH better at DD and i just want to know if all DD clerics should be deleted or if u guys think that they are ok to be?

[Bjorli]

ok im a DD cleric and people are always complaining about how i "dont heal" and if theres only 2 clerics in a KQ ill heal but im MUCH MUCH better at DD and i just want to know if all DD clerics should be deleted or if u guys think that they are ok to be?

Why delete? LMAO the game is made so we can choose how to play, DD clerics usually solo, but in kq they should work as a cleric should in teams, and heal.

[Thasmudyan]

DD clerics have their place, and it's certainly a valid character choice (I'm a str/spr build myself). What you gain is versatility - you can contribute more damage in duos or parties with multiple clerics. You also kill more quickly solo than an END cleric. You lose some survivability, though - making an END cleric a better choice than a STR one for AoE parties (where our single target damage is largely insignificant).

Of course, regardless of build, you're still a cleric, and in groups and KQ's, your healing is going to contribute far more than your damage will. Remember, even with full str, you are still outdamaged by any other class of equal level, even on single targets. If healing isn't needed, then feel free to pitch in and do damage - but your attention should always be focused on those red health bars of your party, not on the pretty red numbers from your swinging hammer.

[JerichoCrost]

:) Str/Spr here as well... and I am loving it! Mhm, Mhm, but on the serious note you should be versatile when you play a DD cleric. For example you should turn into a support cleric without thinking twice, it should be automatic if your party requires your assistance. Just learn how to play both roles and use it ever which one when it is required by the majority.

[Yoruko]

ok im a DD cleric and people are always complaining about how i "dont heal" and if theres only 2 clerics in a KQ ill heal but im MUCH MUCH better at DD and i just want to know if all DD clerics should be deleted or if u guys think that they are ok to be?

If you arn't healing then, yeah, delete, even with a str build cleric is the lowest damage class of all 4, by a good deal too. If you plan to join parties and kqs you need to heal, doesn't mean you can't attack, but you need to heal. I use a heavy str build and it's great for solo and duo, but I still remember I'm a cleric first and it's my job to keep everyone alive.

[Sheraka]

in partys i always heal when needed and attack when not needed but people still always complain about me multi-tasking and think i cant do it when i do fine with partys my own lvl but when theres is a lvl 17(or 18 watever the lowest is) mage in mara with me and they pull any monster they die in 1 hit almost everytime so they complain when its there own fault

[Lythari]

There is nothing wrong with being a DD cleric; but just remember what your prime function is. If a healer is needed more than another weapon beating against an enemy, that is what you should do. The problem with clerics is that their damage/accuracy rates are very bad and have abysmal growth rates (meaning that it's not going to improve by much as they level up). Point for point, you will do about the same damage to enemies as you level, because as your strength increases, so will the def and hp of the enemies you fight. I don't want to say that there is no such thing as a DD cleric, but I honestly don't see the class being set up for an efficient one. If you go pure strength, you may be able to rival a 1h fighter in terms of damage, but be lacking in the def and tanking abilities of said fighter. Again, I don't want to say that there is no such thing, but...

Some people complain about clerics having godly attack power in the 70's. I haven't seen it first hand, and think there may be some exaggeration, but I could be mistaken. Still, lvl 70+ is a long while to wait for the benefits of pure str, imo.

Don't worry about builds. At lvl 30 you get a full stat reset. Some strength is good on clerics, so even if you are above lvl 30, get some stat resets from the Fiesta store, and redo your build.

[Yoruko]

Don't worry about builds. At lvl 30 you get a full stat reset. Some strength is good on clerics, so even if you are above lvl 30, get some stat resets from the Fiesta store, and redo your build.

Wait what?

[Thasmudyan]

in partys i always heal when needed and attack when not needed but people still always complain about me multi-tasking and think i cant do it when i do fine with partys my own lvl but when theres is a lvl 17(or 18 watever the lowest is) mage in mara with me and they pull any monster they die in 1 hit almost everytime so they complain when its there own fault

People do tend to assume that if a cleric is fighting, they aren't paying attention to their healing duties - and with good reason, as most clerics do not handle that multitasking well. Being a good healer requires constant attention - watching your party's health bars, knowing where people and monsters are to keep everyone in range, having an idea not only of who's taking damage, but who might be about to take damage so you can have a heal ready to save that person, being ready to save yourself if you draw agro, etc. It's difficult to do all that and also pick and attack a target.

That said, as others have mentioned there are times when you can fight... against weak monsters, if you have a strong tank that's good at holding agro, when you're with other clerics, etc. The key is knowing when to fight and when it's time to step back and focus on saving lives.

Of course, if someone dies in one hit or pulls too many monsters onto themselves, there's nothing you can do... and people do need to be aware that even dedicated healers have limits, and not to blame us when they die. After all... if we could have saved them, they could have saved themselves with a stone. :)

[xena99]

I love to solo but have been maxing out on strength only since level 30 only. B4 that I was a 2 endurance/1 strength cleric. At lvl 42 now, I'm close to 1:1. I have +11 or so endurance rings I switch to when I join a party, but haven't noticed the switch of 22 points from strength to endurance really adds much to my HP as a percentage, certainly less than a T1 vit scroll.
In a party, I heal, though I am now careful not to pair up with much lower level fighters as they tend to get both of us killed, not being able to hold aggro while I heal them. Leaving us both attacked and I continue to find it hard to heal me, the fighter and fight off a mob. sigh. I find this particularly frustrating because in many cases I would have survived the mob singly if I only focused on keeping me alive and killing the mob.

[Deux_Murakama]

Ok ffrom my view, and im sorry but im attacking all classes with this post, my self, I'm a cleric also lvl 5X DD type, Now first of all....


I remember when started as a cleric i thought well maybe i should heal everyone while they fight n trhats my purpose... psht... yeah right.. If you do that you Drain sp quickly especially if you dont empower n decrease sp cost by heal [8] those clerics build up spr but when no one has need for an extra cleric to drain exp... What then? If your full spr your minimum damage to an orc a lvl 5X would be between 4X~70, this might take a while to take down an orc oh wait over the orizon is a crit, those hit at least 90 ~105, worthless.... Even with bash it would take about a mnute and a half o tlk down a full hp orc, I have +41 on str right now n it takes me 10~18 secs to be done with an orc, but then what happens to higher lvl mobs like trumpys, personally a battle cleric can take down trumpys no problem, meanwhile a cleric that thinks there purpose is heal is getting half the exp as the DD cleric n running out stones healing a Zealous fighter/mage/archer while the DD cleric can heal every 3-4 hits the healing cleric has to heal every hit to prove they heal good. Thus ruining the point of Duoing, it wastes money, time,exp, n is dwn right boring sitting therehitting heal over n over n over n OVER!

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1. Steel Hearted: I can say this proudly i tanked Mara and Marlne in the Mara KQ, 3 times each, it was around midnight on Apoline server n i guess no fighters we on but we had mages and arches n an a large amount of clerics, I decided wel if we stand here watching Mara pace back n forth then we will fail, so i ran in n fought, quickly i had the suuport of other clerics who healed me and others attacked her from the back, it took about 2~ 4 minutes but it got done. Then came Marlone, we made quick work of him I rushed in n we dispatched him shortly after. Steel Hearted clerics are battle clerics the ones that can rush in to fight the boss when no one ele decides to....

2. Overzealous Fighters: I'm tired of fighters not wanting to use their hp potions to heal themselves or their stones either,its madness...If you have the means to keep yourself alive then do so because that doesnt mean everyone else will, especially if you join a KQ with no cleric in it, I've done so on my alternate character and it was hard but our tank won us the King Slime KQ by keeping himself alive, we had strategys as well... Listen well fighters... POWER STRUGGLE THE MOB if most of the fighters in the KQ know kick or mock well this is the perfect time to use a stradegy dubbed Power Struggle, it is very effective especially when there are at least three fighters around and they have mock on max cool, this works as an offesnse and a defense, if done this to win a robo KQ with my fighter... It was the last two mins and clerics were trying to rez everyone and about 5 other fighters adding myself we trying to help the runner out, so i asked my friend if he wanted to play Power Struggle, First of all you mock taking the mobs attention and you run the opposite way from the next fighter as you gain some ground the next fighter uses mock n he runs also, then another fighter mocks taking aggro while mages n archers sit back n pick off the confused mob after about 5 mocks the mob freezes n you have an opportunity to get free hits in, please do so accordingli then continue with your game of power struggle if you do this right no one ill get hit more than once and the fighters would barely have to heal anything we did this n finished the KQ with 14 people, the rest gave up n died in the first room. (Kick works with only one monster) - Game can also be used with Concussive Strike if Mock doesnt cool as soon as possible -

Mages: .......... ummm.... make pots XD..... >.> Mages you need to make sure that if you cant get healed by a cleric you have full int n kill rom very ar as possible....>.>

Archers: 25dex rest end and your good

[Lythari]

If you don't like healing, why didn't you choose a fighter? It sounds to me like that's what you would be happier doing. Clerics are the ONLY healing class in the game. That should be your focus unless something else is needed from you. If you don't like that, make a fighter and you'll never have to heal again.

[Yoruko]

in partys i always heal when needed and attack when not needed but people still always complain about me multi-tasking and think i cant do it when i do fine with partys my own lvl but when theres is a lvl 17(or 18 watever the lowest is) mage in mara with me and they pull any monster they die in 1 hit almost everytime so they complain when its there own fault

The stuff about mages makes me believe just a bit you are slacking some. Bosses will take out a mage in 1 hit but other than that they can survive a few hits. I've been a 17 mage in mara and the marlone fighters can be nasty but most stuff hits a mage for 80ish, and at that level they have about 300 hp without scrolls. Yeah it's only 4 hits or so, but a cleric paying attention should be able to pick up on that and heal before they're dead. Mages have low def and go down fast but it's generally not faster than you should be able to react.

[Deux_Murakama]

If you don't like healing, why didn't you choose a fighter? It sounds to me like that's what you would be happier doing. Clerics are the ONLY healing class in the game. That should be your focus unless something else is needed from you. If you don't like that, make a fighter and you'll never have to heal again.

Correction, if you want a heal why dont you make a cleric XD
I made a cleric so i can have a heal n not have o chug hp stones n hp pots to live XD

[Lythari]

Correction, if you want a heal why dont you make a cleric XD
I made a cleric so i can have a heal n not have o chug hp stones n hp pots to live XD

As I thought. That is like someone becoming a cop for the wrong reasons. You are free to do as you wish, but remember what clerics are for. They are supposed to heal. Don't get mad at people expecting heals and buffs from a cleric. They have no way of knowing that you became a cleric just for the self heals.

[Deux_Murakama]

As I thought. That is like someone becoming a cop for the wrong reasons. You are free to do as you wish, but remember what clerics are for. They are supposed to heal. Don't get mad at people expecting heals and buffs from a cleric. They have no way of knowing that you became a cleric just for the self heals.




XD Clerics are expected to heal, i do so because i plkease, i buff because i please, other trhan that look at my signiture it tells the rest of the story

[Sheraka]

If you don't like healing, why didn't you choose a fighter? It sounds to me like that's what you would be happier doing. Clerics are the ONLY healing class in the game. That should be your focus unless something else is needed from you. If you don't like that, make a fighter and you'll never have to heal again.

i never said i "I dont like healing" all i said was i like DD more and i was a very very hardcore WoW player and i was a shaman(DD and Healing) so im use to doing that and i can multi-task because of the countless days (yes days) of gameplay on WoW

[Kaizaschnitt]

I am DD Cleric :P I also tried DD Fighter but they are soooo lazyyyy for me xD I hate when i play fighter and cant heal myself D: So DD Cleric best choice for me :P It also works fine. I got at lvl 79 1,3k def, 3,3k HP, hit 470 damage around on Ancient Stonies. [Without Scrolls/Charmes] Also can heal in Party + Tanking