Godly Greens

[Garionsg]

Ok guys here are some of the finest greens in my inventory =) Feel free to put your offers...

Starting price = 40s (for lvl 40 equips)
= 50s (for lvl 50 equip)

Minimum increment = 1s (for all equips)


Raging Wind Morgenstern - Lvl 50
End +24
Spr +24
Dmg: 269-336
Aim: 166
Crit: 5%

Thunder (Higher Crits) Power Wand - Lvl 40
End +19
Dex +1
Spr +17
MDmg: 146-194
Aim: 124
Crit: 6%

Moon (Higher Base Dmg) Power Staff - Lvl 40
Str +8
End +16
Dex +20
MDmg: 149-202
Aim: 139
Crit: 2%


Note that i have disregarded str and int as a godly stat because i did a quick test on my mage and roughly about 5 int = 1 additional damage. So there's really no point imo.

[blazshadowkill]

Raging Wind Morgenstern - Lvl 50

Price??

[Garionsg]

Hmm maybe i could take a cue from your thread =)

Starting price = 40s (for lvl 40 equips)
= 50s (for lvl 50 equip)

Minimum increment = 1s (for all equips)

[blazshadowkill]

xD mine has an ending time =) and pretty much mine is to get rid of the stuff fast since no one was buying anything xD

[RavenCpu]

75 silver for the lvl 50 hammer ^^

[Garionsg]

bump ^^ 10chars

[kobjing]

80s for the lvl50 hammer

[Devolin]

I'm curious to know what's "Godly" about them...

The cleric weapon has no STR, END is good but SPR doesn't help crit. rate unless it's the bonus stat from when you LVL up. So only thing really good about it is the END, not godly.

The first mage weapon has a decent base crit. rate but no INT... How's that work out to be godly? No INT at all, just a good END, ONLY 1 DEX (Wands have lower aim and could use some DEX to help out), and some SPR. Again, SPR only really helps for max SP, and you really don't NEED to have it. Not godly.

As for the last one, this one has the DEX, but lower END, still decent. The crit. rate, :( 2%! What kinda crud is that? Mages are out there to do damage, crits. do double damage, they could use some crit. rate. Not worth very much and certainly NOT GODLY.

Too many PPL use the term "Godly" for items that just plain out aren't... Use your head PPL. Stop lying to yourself, and others.

[Garionsg]

Ok with regards to your first comment, the raging wind morgernstern.. Why should str stat be present to classify it as godly? The str u get from equips pale in comparison to just 1 single point you put in free stat strength.. I can bet even with Str+30 you would notice but a couple of points (< 10) in real damage.

What i feel (i play a cleric level 5X) is that clerics need all the defence and m.def they can get. With a +52 full end equip i could tank 6 archons jr in my early 50s. So this would be a helpful addition, no?

Just extrapolate it to the other 2 weapons. Granted the dex on the wand is really negligible but the focus is on the End and Spr stat.

Lastly for the staff ( i have a 4X mage as well), lv 40 npc staff gives 2% critical and i'm not emphasizing on that aspect. Rather its the higher base damage and dex/end which is the highlight of the weapon.

Of course you may not agree with my analysis. What appears to be godly to me may not be to you =)

[Devolin]

Strength is needed more by clerics due to their low damage to start with, the END aspect is great for keeping yourself alive but you need the STR for the extra damage, even if it is only 10 or so per hit, in the grand scheme of things that extra 10 per hit adds up in the end, how many hits does it take for you to kill one of those Archon Jr.? Do the math.

If you were in an AoE party you would need the END more than you need the STR since you'll not be the one doing the damage. However as you so nicely pointed out you were tanking 5 or 6 at a time, so assuming that you were solo or even duo, not in an AoE party, you need the extra damage to kill faster, making you gain faster EXP, making you LVL faster, making the item better, the END added to it helps you to do this, but the END only really helps if you're in a group of things that are attacking you. As a cleric you do not have an AoE so you're attacking one at a time anyway, what does it matter how many you can tank? You need to kill faster...

Being that it is a matter of opinion and I do not share the same awe that you do towards the items you hold in your inventory, this is something I would say is "Godly."

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/dragoninthestars/Storage/MyCG.jpg

This is something that most used to tell me was "Godly" and I think a lot of people still would. I, however, do not believe it is. I've said it's semi-godly.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/dragoninthestars/Storage/GGK.jpg

The images speak for themselves. These items and many more like them are in this game. Not just for fighters. These are just the two that I personally have used in my time. I'd be glad to get a few shots from friends with much better equips than the ones you have show for mages and cleric to see about your definition of "Godly" if you wish.

The term "Godly" is ment to be the best of what it is, unbeatable. The equipment you have posted in this thread, easily triumphed by so many other items out there.

Care to keep going? I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm tired of looking in threads about godly items to find anything but godly items. I like to see when someone is proud of something and I can congratulate them on it. If it's godly say so, if not then don't lie about it. Not that hard.

[Garionsg]

Firstly, do not take my words out of context. The extra 10 point in real damage is but a postulation by me. Now i have taken a few minutes to do up a really crude mathematical model to disprove your seemingly deep interest in high strength stat of equips.

Character Sheet Damage
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/Garionsg/Char.jpg
A rough average damage
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/Garionsg/Real.jpg
A linearized graph of Real versus base damage
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/Garionsg/Graph.jpg

From the graph (horizontal axis is base damage in character sheet, vertical axis is Real damage to orcs), we see that about 4 base damage will equate to 1 additional real damage.

So your godly sword with a str +21 stat will do about 5 additional damage. Well lets take my damage as an example. An additional damage of 5 is about an increase of 1.89% in real damage for me. Hardly worth the time in my opinion, even in the grand scheme of things. Suppose i take 8 hits to kill an orc. I will still need 8 hits to kill the same orc after the str +21 increase.

Secondly, if i take the same amount of hits to kill the same mob, the logical way to kill faster would be to buff up both my hp and defence (by the End stat) so i would take

(i) less damage
(ii) a higher hp pool

so i can afford to delay healing. Of course, i wont do the really tedious task of modelling the effect. In an AoE party, i agree about the End stat being paramount since sometimes the tank would lose aggro and mobs start to attack you. However the str stat is still irrelevant.

Now for your godly CG Sword, to me, the only stat worth is End, Spr and Dex (IF you're missing things you could kill with ease, for example 5X - orcs, 6X - blue clovers)

Now what i guess is that for a certain level, there would be maximum capped stat. For example, for level 4X equipment it would be End +20 max, level 5X equipment, End +30 max etc.

I'm just guessing it.. Anyway, for your CG +9 2H, your End +19 and Spr +10 is in my opinion pretty good, but look what i have found..

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/Garionsg/Pants.jpg

So i'm guessing your CG is good but it doesn't match the epic level that level 5X equips can have.

Also, if you're referring to blue items or items that are unmatched (at that point in time) the correct word should be epic (as inferred from the epic thread somewhere in this forum). Godly simply means things that are seriously good and worth to possess imo.

Thirdly, your use of the word "lie" twice is a personal attack and a serious defamation of my personal integrity. Kindly refrain from using such words in future. If you disagree with my definition/postulates/analysis/items, i'm fine with it. We could sit down somewhere, have some coffee, chat and further our knowledge of the game.

Finally.. Sorry for the long writing in bits as pieces as i would really want to play the game now ^^ I think our discussion of this topic should stop here, and proceed to another part of the forum since the marketplace isn't the correct avenue to do so..


Therefore people, please continue bidding if the item interests you!! ^^


C/O on Morgenstern = 80s

[yakis]

free bump for yea for the sake of the electricity wasted to plot the graph

[silvane]

omg where u find that archer pants!! :p

[Devolin]

Now what i guess is that for a certain level, there would be maximum capped stat.
I'm quite certain there is a stat cap for certain LVLs. Deeming each LVL to have different amounts of stats but still allowing each of those LVL gaps to have godly and normal gear.

Godly simply means things that are seriously good and worth to possess imo.
Agree with you completely and that's what I stated in my second post, about godly items being the best of what they are. Furthermore meaning, no epics seeing as how epics are not the same items as the numerous different boss drops and other items simaler to those you could buy out of the NPC.

I'm just guessing it.. Anyway, for your CG +9 2H, your End +19 and Spr +10 is in my opinion pretty good...
As a correction my CG is a 1H, and SPR in my opinion is not that great as it only helps the max SP in most cases since you don't fight too many things that use magic, especially in an AoE party. My next statement applies to this quote as well.

... if i take the same amount of hits to kill the same mob, the logical way to kill faster would be to buff up both my hp and defence (by the End stat) so i would take

(i) less damage
(ii) a higher hp pool

so i can afford to delay healing.
I quoted you on your idea of what godly is a bit up this post, but the items that you are trying to sell off here are not "seriously good" in most opinions, including your own if I'm not mistaken. Wouldn't that defy the word "Godly?"

Thirdly, your use of the word "lie" twice is a personal attack and a serious defamation of my personal integrity. Kindly refrain from using such words in future. If you disagree with my definition/postulates/analysis/items, i'm fine with it. We could sit down somewhere, have some coffee, chat and further our knowledge of the game.
My use of the word lie was in a general statement for all to see, it was not directed towards you alone and even applies to me. I'm sorry if you took it some other way. But further discussion could be kept to PMs if they are to occur, just wanted a response shown.

P.S.: I'll take a tea. Earl Grey please, and grats on the pants.

[Tackey]

i dont see anything godly on this post. If you wanna call something godly, show me a 4 statted item with all at 20+.

No offence to TS. :)

[vorticity]

u guys are blind... I define having a lvl 50 sword with +1 int as GODLY.
GODS dun need stats u knw....

and i always NPC my GODLY items.... g

GODS dun need money either.. ^^

back to the real discussion, str from equips looks nicer, practical effect of it is far less than any apreciable useage.

i have seen far less godly items being called godly, but so what? My view is that if u dun agree, u are not interested to buy, devolin, either u pm garionsg to ask him, or u dun post at all.. its rude to just poke into someone's selling thread like this. im surprise garion actually went as far as to entertain u so much with graphs and charts...

my cue is: u dun like, u dun wana bid, dun post, dun poke at someone's use of vocabulary. >.<