Reporting Mighty_Army for abuse

[xertekar]

There was no logical reason for waring us, they are a very big guild compare to us. We are Poder_Latino, and i attached some pictures so you can see clearly the differense... i did read the guild war rule post, i know they attacked only once, but the difference is huge, and we actually ask them to stop and they didnt... plase do something about this.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/539/screenshot016co0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot016co0.jpg)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2373/screenshot017zb1.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot017zb1.jpg)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8995/screenshot020fo9.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot020fo9.jpg)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6181/screenshot022qk6.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot022qk6.jpg)

If this is no reason for reporting then... my bad... but i guess is very unfair and annoying, they should mess with a higher guild than us. I am sorry about my english if a spelled wrong of something, english is not my first language... thank you very much for your time.

Cheers

[Asmodejjj]

You don't report it when guilds stronger than you attack you, it's the nature of Fiesta. They don't want to risk dying, so they go after you guys, which is legal.

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

Umm well your right there is no abuse there, if they did war you for no reason thats bad but they are a respactable guild, if they wared you a member of yours may have been KSing or something. Plus I see no pics of you dead and them making fun of you.

[KiSsGod]

There was no logical reason for waring us, they are a very big guild compare to us. We are Poder_Latino, and i attached some pictures so you can see clearly the differense... i did read the guild war rule post, i know they attacked only once, but the difference is huge, and we actually ask them to stop and they didnt... plase do something about this.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/539/screenshot016co0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot016co0.jpg)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2373/screenshot017zb1.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot017zb1.jpg)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8995/screenshot020fo9.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot020fo9.jpg)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6181/screenshot022qk6.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot022qk6.jpg)

If this is no reason for reporting then... my bad... but i guess is very unfair and annoying, they should mess with a higher guild than us. I am sorry about my english if a spelled wrong of something, english is not my first language... thank you very much for your time.

Cheers


*sigh* well my guild master said your leader had insulted us... I told you all that if you didnt want to fight you should have left town.

[lapsuxs]

You don't report it when guilds stronger than you attack you, it's the nature of Fiesta. They don't want to risk dying, so they go after you guys, which is legal.

If a war isnt a challenge then... whats the point????

Umm well your right there is no abuse there, if they did war you for no reason thats bad but they are a respactable guild, if they wared you a member of yours may have been KSing or something. Plus I see no pics of you dead and them making fun of you.

Respectable? for waring starting guilds? well i dunno that...

And btw if you wanna know the main reason of the war, the gf of the guild master of Mighty change her guild... and guess where she got in.... if this is no true... my bad...

[Kaiza]

PM other guilds for help :) I like GW lmao

[lapsuxs]

*sigh* well my guild master said your leader had insulted us... I told you all that if you didnt want to fight you should have left town.

BTW! if someones insult you you dont war him... you have the block feature... READ the war rulez sometimes.... this look like an abuse to me...

[Takerial]

It's not abuse. It might have been a little overboard in what they did, but you don't insult another guild and then whine about them warring you. An insult is to be taken as a declaration of the other guild saying they are your enemy. And what do you do with enemies?

Now if they were to have constantly warred them again and again, that's just plain harrassment.

[Jhanniss]

It's not abuse. It might have been a little overboard in what they did, but you don't insult another guild and then whine about them warring you. An insult is to be taken as a declaration of the other guild saying they are your enemy. And what do you do with enemies?

Now if they were to have constantly warred them again and again, that's just plain harrassment.


"2. Guild wars are never to be used as a means of revenge. It doesn’t matter how much a player may have offended you, or how much you may not like them. This is one reason why we have a block feature."

- GM_Dakkon
01-17-2008, 04:51 PM


http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38952


Though I'll be first to admit I've bent that rule a few times myself. :3

Besides, MA is just making up for all the times I solo'd them as young players. Your Guild Master is most of the reason I did it back then to begin with. :D

[Takerial]

Yes, but I'm arguing the point that an insult can also be seen as a challenge depending on how it is worded. To take someone up on a challenge should not be against the rules. To take someone up on an insult based on revenge means should.

[KiSsGod]

It's not abuse. It might have been a little overboard in what they did, but you don't insult another guild and then whine about them warring you. An insult is to be taken as a declaration of the other guild saying they are your enemy. And what do you do with enemies?

Now if they were to have constantly warred them again and again, that's just plain harrassment.


well i dont know spanish but the other guild sure was yelling stuff to us too. if i knew they were insulting the other guild i would have told them to stop :S. Plus i repeated myself many times "If you dont want to fight us just leave the town." They didnt listen... they just stood there... if they didnt want to be killed they should have left :S. (i didnt atk anyone .. i was just there if things got out of hand). All i know there were yelling in spanish from both sides :O.

[lapsuxs]

"2. Guild wars are never to be used as a means of revenge. It doesn’t matter how much a player may have offended you, or how much you may not like them. This is one reason why we have a block feature."

- GM_Dakkon
01-17-2008, 04:51 PM


http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38952


Though I'll be first to admit I've bent that rule a few times myself. :3

Besides, MA is just making up for all the times I solo'd them as young players. Your Guild Master is most of the reason I did it back then to begin with. :D

That was what i was saying... and the rules are very clear, if you become someones enemy you dont need nessesary to insult...

[Takerial]

Alright, here is how things are laid down.

An insult in it's very nature. Is a challenge. Plain and simple.

Now there are three ways you can handle it.

1. Ignore it. Usually most wise and very acceptable by about anyone.

However, sometimes an insult is something you don't wish to ignore. So you move onto one of the other two.

2. Handle things in a crass manner. This consists of throwing a fit, throwing negative comments in return and doing things like harrassing a player, starting a war and then just going on a complete kill spree.

3. Handle things in a more delicate manner. This consists of simply owning up to the challenge. If someone insults your intelligence you demonstrate it for them and put them in their place. If someone insults your guild, you war them and put them in their place.

[Kyo_Sama]

i see nothing in those pics where you asked them to stop


that aside it does appear to be an act of vengeance or at the very least not friendly (though friendly and war >_> )

also not taking sides or anything but if u dont want to be warred join a non warring guild. it just as viable now that they have pvp zones

[KiSsGod]

If he had a problem with war he should have left town :S thats all im saying. Its not like we were stopping them from leaving, they chose to stay.

[tiricky]

*sigh* well my guild master said your leader had insulted us... I told you all that if you didnt want to fight you should have left town.
just because he insulted ull doesn't mean u have to kill everyone eles in his guild

[Gravvi]

LOL now u can get banned for warring for vengance. If you warred someone for insulting that guild can be banned for warring for vengance. Wars are suppose to be fun. And all's fair in love and war. Wars are fair game. but due to new rules they did break one.