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Glenphir
03-13-2008, 07:17 AM
Okay, you might notice nowadyas that some beginners are asking for power leveling. Okay this is a note to you beginners out there. Do not ever go asking for power leveling from random people, It's just rude and disrespectful. I know you do want to train fast to reach a high level. Every wants that.

You might also find it that it's not fair the high levels don't power level you. But you HAVE to remember that in some point of time, the high level people were once beginners too. They took sweat and time to train their character, so why should they just use their hard effort made characters to power level people? It's unfair for them.

So BIG NOTE to all power level beggars: DO NOT GO ASK FOR POWER LEVEL. PLAINLY IT IS UNFAIR!

Thanks.

Note: If your friend wants or can power level you, go ahead, it's totally fine. But asking a stranger for power level is same as asking a stranger for money. And power level is DIFFERENT from duo/trio/party. If the party member(s) is willing to party you, it is totally fine too.

Leens
03-13-2008, 07:48 AM
Wow you took the words out right of my mouth. Very well said I would have to say :D Honestly I NEVER asked for a power level. I got myself to 65 now from just soloing and hard work :D

Just work hard and you'll get there ^_^

Eternal_Doom
03-13-2008, 12:26 PM
how do you power level someone anyway? :confused:

SweetLavender
03-13-2008, 12:30 PM
Nicely said ^.^

smitske
03-13-2008, 12:31 PM
i worked to 63 that way, and now i feel like not playing anymore(the hard way)

Iris_May
03-13-2008, 12:46 PM
Power levelling is simply put when you take a low level player to a high level place and kill mobs while they sit there and leech. And I've murdered myself to 31, I've never chosen to have a power level, but have been forcibly dragged to Uruga (I love my freidns ^^) once and have done a very long grind in CP, but I was helping to attack and my other friend was healing. Side not for low levels on Teva, if Yotobari is running round FoT or SB yelling 'does anyone want power leveling?' take me up on the offer ^^ (Proud founder of The Boredom Troupe)

smitske
03-13-2008, 01:10 PM
I despise people like you, people like you are the main reasen those noobs come to uruga thinking we will give them a plvl.
But as you said so yourself, your a plvl person to, you would be nothing without it.

Karrotz
03-14-2008, 04:38 AM
The situation is so bad that I actually see people going into CP or Uruga spamming their demands for plvl. Yes, demands.

Example:
This low level character runs to the crowd grinding at CP and she goes "POWERLEVEL ME!!!" spamming all the way.

They don't even bother to ask for it as a request anymore. =_=

Not dissimilar to demands for BUFF!!! and HEAL!!! I guess. People seem to be forgetting that they are addressing human beings behind those little characters we play.

Stenbumling
03-14-2008, 05:01 AM
I just got the best idea ever. Block them.

xNirvash.Type0x
03-14-2008, 05:21 AM
they steal greens D:

Soulfrit
03-14-2008, 05:43 AM
Agree!
So does Kirby! Yahhh!

Serric
03-14-2008, 11:05 AM
I despise people like you, people like you are the main reasen those noobs come to uruga thinking we will give them a plvl.
But as you said so yourself, your a plvl person to, you would be nothing without it.

Now that's a bit harsh. :(

What people tend to fail to realize is there are two types of powerleveling (well, 3 - but the 3rd involved a 3rd party site and a permaban).

1: The most offensive: someone runs from place to place, person to person begging to be powerleveled. They manage to get into the higher leveled areas and refuse to leave (1: they can't and 2: they want the exp). They also want the higher drops to make fast silver. These are the ones that give everyone else a hard time and a bad name.

2: The most acceptable. Guildmates or higher-leveled firends offer to take someone(s) to a higher leveled area. 1: the guild wants to be as strong as possible and getting their members to a decent level is in their best interst. 2: they are friends and mates - it's just a friendly party and something special for the lowbie. The lowbie in question may not have asked for this and isn't one to randomly ask others for power level. If stranded in Uruga they may ask to purchase an Elderine scroll, which is fine.

It seems the prior always gives a bad name to the latter and makes people like poor Smitske pull his hair out at the roots at the mention of the word 'powerlevel'. But I think it is important to recognize the difference between the two and refrain from lumping them all into a single mass.

When I was younger, my guild took me to Uruga. I gained a few levels, got a few drops and was later stranded in Urugra, a lvl 28 with no hope of getting home (I thought I had a Roumen or Eld scroll - I didn't). What did I do? Sucked it up and asked to buy an Eld scroll. No one yelled at me and no one tried to make me feel like dirt. In the end, someone gave me a scroll even though I offered to buy it. I think, in the end, it comes down to repsect for the higher levels. We are all working towards getting stronger in one way or another - by repsecting each other and not spam-begging we should be able to tolorate one another, don't you think?

MageDragonShadow
03-14-2008, 11:18 AM
I feel power leveling is one of the greater evils in this game. True, it brings someone up to level 30-35 in a hurry..True they are now more powerful..but they have absolutely no idea how to party, how to play their character, their strengths, their weakness. They can't be self sufficient in a group, they are your prime reason a lot of KQ fail, or your party dies. This may seem an unfair assessment, and I know a lot of people have multiple characters, and some have probably power leveled their alternates yet I don't feel they even know the strength or weakness of their character due to power leveling.

A simple suggestion (no one will like this): Put a party cap on. Only allow a 10 level difference in levels in a party. This will not stop low grade power level, but it will stop level 12 from being in Uruga. 40 can't drag a 12 with a cap, and 12 will die instantly in Uruga. There is a similar cap in place, even though it is not evidient. For instance: Level 15 can't get in certain KQ because of their lack of level. etc. Apply this same distinction to party. Why should a level 40 party with a level 12? So what if they are friends... diversify your character. Party with your own levels..tackle a level 20 creature with level 12 party.

In short: Make the party what it was intended for. Similar levels that must fight tougher mobs together for a common goal. This would increase the enjoyment of the game for others as well.

Just my opinion.

Edit: For the record, I earned every level on all three of my characters. Most of them were earned playing solo. (Just wanted that clear.)

Serric
03-14-2008, 11:32 AM
I feel power leveling is one of the greater evils in this game. True, it brings someone up to level 30-35 in a hurry..True they are now more powerful..but they have absolutely no idea how to party, how to play their character, their strengths, their weakness. They can't be self sufficient in a group, they are your prime reason a lot of KQ fail, or your party dies. This may seem an unfair assessment, and I know a lot of people have multiple characters, and some have probably power leveled their alternates yet I don't feel they even know the strength or weakness of their character due to power leveling.

A simple suggestion (no one will like this): Put a party cap on. Only allow a 10 level difference in levels in a party. This will not stop low grade power level, but it will stop level 12 from being in Uruga. 40 can't drag a 12 with a cap, and 12 will die instantly in Uruga. There is a similar cap in place, even though it is not evidient. For instance: Level 15 can't get in certain KQ because of their lack of level. etc. Apply this same distinction to party. Why should a level 40 party with a level 12? So what if they are friends... diversify your character. Party with your own levels..tackle a level 20 creature with level 12 party.

In short: Make the party what it was intended for. Similar levels that must fight tougher mobs together for a common goal. This would increase the enjoyment of the game for others as well.

Just my opinion.

Edit: For the record, I earned every level on all three of my characters. Most of them were earned playing solo. (Just wanted that clear.)

That's not a bad idea, all in all... have you submitted it to the GMS for their input?

FrontierVortex
03-14-2008, 11:35 AM
Here is my take on Powerleveling:
1. People who rudely come and ask for it or spam "POWERLEVEL ME!" should simply just be blocked
2. MageDragonShadow you are not accounting for the fact that certain people wish to help those that are lower leveled in their guilds. This is the higher leveled players choice.
3. A party level cap would preclude some groups for group grinding. I am a level 51 cleric and I generally three or four times a week have guild grinding parties where a 3x cleric comes to play heal bot. With a party cap this would be impossible.
4. You would be hurting higher levels at least as much as the low levels if not more. I know certain 10+ level higher DD's who use me as an AoE cleric. Your solution would keep me on the sidelines.
5. I do believe that there is soon to be a patch that precludes people from gaining xp from mobs that are 30+ levels higher than them. I do not remember where i saw it but I believe it was somewhere on this site.

Oh and I have made my levels myself... except for 1k xp when I was level 19. And the only reason I got that was because my guild master wanted me to hit 20.

smitske
03-14-2008, 12:38 PM
thats 1 of the things I hate the most, low lvl clerics.

We got the hardest time soling at higher lvls due to our lack of damage, and we dont get pt (cause really a lvl 60+ cleric is as good as a lvl 58) and no you bring more low lvl clerics to take party instead of the ones that 'deserve' it.

MageDragonShadow
03-14-2008, 02:47 PM
Here is my take on Powerleveling:
2. MageDragonShadow you are not accounting for the fact that certain people wish to help those that are lower leveled in their guilds. This is the higher leveled players choice.


I know that some choose to do that. But wrong is wrong. There should be no gray area. To eliminate a problem you have to standardize it into one black or white category. If we feel a problem comes from power level, stop it for all or the problem is never resolved.


To Serric: I have not submitted this as I feel the GM's are actively processing the game to our enjoyment as we speak. Issues such as this will be resolved in time, but I do like to voice opinions on my part so that perhaps there may be a viewing and someone carry it to the next level. You never know who may read this. *Grins*

Azalea_Raeka_Daear
03-14-2008, 04:57 PM
Why yes, the topic of Power Leveling.
Power leveling in fiesta is the new fashion trend!
=D We all should do it!

-.-;

Please.
I can't go to Uruga after an Solo session to restone without being spammed with party invites from lower lvls.
Back when I did kill mobs in Uruga, I had to party with another individual that was also soloing (on the other side of the map).
So others couldn't spam us with party invites.

It's basically getting out of hand.
I understand that some guilds have their lower lvl members to come to Uruga, so they can help them level.
That's fine, but, in my eyes, they're responsible for their lower lvl friend.
(Them getting them to Uruga, Them getting them to the grinding grounds and back, and them getting them back to the town meant for their lvl)

I have seen a few pleasant low levels, respectful, that I wouldn't mind chitchatting or even helping later.
You know they are people behind those characters, no matter the lvl.

But buying for a plvling of 10 lvls for 200s?
Oy.

I'm not even going to start on that

<3

FrontierVortex
03-15-2008, 12:39 AM
thats 1 of the things I hate the most, low lvl clerics.

We got the hardest time soling at higher lvls due to our lack of damage, and we dont get pt (cause really a lvl 60+ cleric is as good as a lvl 58) and no you bring more low lvl clerics to take party instead of the ones that 'deserve' it.

Smitske I understand where you are coming from, but its as if you have no people that you wish to party with. I have a fairly close group of friend in the 50-65 level range that use me as their heal bot. Also, I don't think that a level 5x is still a low level cleric. And just how do you determine who deserves it?

Dakejev
03-15-2008, 08:07 AM
The only single person I've ever helped to powerlevel was my best offline friend, when she started a new character. And even then I got her up to lvl 10 and then she said she'd be fine from there on. I mean, it's not like she wanted to leech off of me forever, just to get a little wind under her wings. :)

smitske
03-15-2008, 08:13 AM
Smitske I understand where you are coming from, but its as if you have no people that you wish to party with. I have a fairly close group of friend in the 50-65 level range that use me as their heal bot. Also, I don't think that a level 5x is still a low level cleric. And just how do you determine who deserves it?

I consider lvl 40 to be the minimum