View Full Version : 2h wants to be a tank ! :P
DJready
03-24-2008, 03:14 PM
Ok its like this i am a 2h swordsman lvl 55 and my def is 436 now i realy wanna be a tank but i dont like much 1h sword i realy like 2h sword but my def is low cuz u cant have 2h and a shield now i been puting points on end stats from lvl 28 32 and 34-40 and from 44-55 every thing betwen or from 1-28 went on STR or SPR
free stats info:
22 STR
13 END
now is it wroth puting more points on END or on STR ? And i am in parties a lot so usualy im the only fighter with not real good def xD
Asmodejjj
03-24-2008, 03:16 PM
Usually if you're tanking you have at least 2 clerics healing and buffing, so I'd say use the points for STR.
DJready
03-24-2008, 03:55 PM
yea but its hard to find a cleric these days.
i am usualy in party with mage
so lets say i am with mage and its lower lvl than me where is better to put points STR or END
Asmodejjj
03-24-2008, 04:04 PM
Well, the mage is gonna die real fast without a cleric, but will do huge damage. Your choice, as every party should always have a cleric, or else they're kinda destined to die.
DemonBlitzKragor
03-24-2008, 04:47 PM
if you do more damage, you'll msot liekly hold more aggro so the mage won't get chased, but you living might be your only problem, depending on teh mob
HotRed
03-25-2008, 03:38 AM
If you're only a FULL STR Fighter then you're not here asking what build you must have 'coz FULL STR Fighter ignores defense and if you ask me why then my answer is:
Lower the Defense of the mob then Devastate then Power Hit then all normal attacks will do or 1 more power hit then the mob is COLD DEAD!
I think High levels will agree to me or maybe not LMAO! ^_^
duckme
03-25-2008, 05:36 AM
if u want to tank and r full str do like all full str and enhanace your armour to +9 all your armour that should put def into the 1k this is coming from a lvl 70 tanker
MiDoElBaShA
03-25-2008, 06:12 AM
i'm lvl 44 and my def is around 530~550 using def scroll and cleric protect.
putting free stats into END is quite useless as END from equips is MUCH MUCH better than free point end.
so if you want to take,
get some GOOD END armor +6 or higher to be able to tank.
you're armor should add the lost DEF from your shield.
so it's as if you're wearing a shield but you're not actually.
-Leona-
03-25-2008, 06:41 AM
putting free stats into END is quite useless as END from equips is MUCH MUCH better than free point end.
LOL and that is the most ridicolous remark on this topic ROFL
End equip addst o your defence just like any other piece of equips
Free stat END is virtual defence that applies after the damage calc has been done reducing the amount inflicted upon u directly by the number of def points u have from free stat END.
Ex: 50free stat points of end will make your character have 25 free stat def, ABSOLUTELY every mob that attack with physical attack will attack u exactly 25points less than a str fighter, EVEN if in your character window u both have same defence.
MiDoElBaShA
03-25-2008, 10:52 AM
LOL and that is the most ridicolous remark on this topic ROFL
End equip addst o your defence just like any other piece of equips
Free stat END is virtual defence that applies after the damage calc has been done reducing the amount inflicted upon u directly by the number of def points u have from free stat END.
Ex: 50free stat points of end will make your character have 25 free stat def, ABSOLUTELY every mob that attack with physical attack will attack u exactly 25points less than a str fighter, EVEN if in your character window u both have same defence.
if you test this yourself
each 2 END from free stats = 10 HP + 1 DEF
each 2 END from equips = 10 HP + 2 DEF
yes the END from the free stats will help a bit,
BUT the bonus DMG every 5 STR would benefit a 2h user more than END.
so he could have the same DEF as a full END ( the def in window and bonus ) while having more STR.
methusala
03-25-2008, 07:46 PM
At level 55 i had over 1k defence with a shield on solo with no scrolls. In party i have over 1k def while using an axe. With your def being 400ish your gonna need more than free stats to make you a tank. Get endurance equips (and enhance them if you can!) Otherwise your going to be driving your cleric(s) crazy trying to heal you, and at the very least wasting a spot for a second cleric instead of another DD or just less people in party.
Just my 2 copper,
met
DarkPincess
03-25-2008, 08:45 PM
to help tank and not lose HP fast id use 1h and sheild but for 2h id be higher END and some STR right now u should use axe since u have more STR
Hydr0
03-25-2008, 10:30 PM
Fighter can still tank with axe. so if the cleric is good in the party it's not a problem.
I know i can heal 2 fightes Axe at same time at level60+.
axe fighter still got alot more def then clerics and can hold aggro so why not :)
DJready
03-25-2008, 11:18 PM
At level 55 i had over 1k defence with a shield on solo with no scrolls. In party i have over 1k def while using an axe. With your def being 400ish your gonna need more than free stats to make you a tank. Get endurance equips (and enhance them if you can!) Otherwise your going to be driving your cleric(s) crazy trying to heal you, and at the very least wasting a spot for a second cleric instead of another DD or just less people in party.
Just my 2 copper,
met
i am talking about 2h user i know if i get shield i will 1k too but i tdont like it.
for the +++ armor those are hard to get im not made of money u know :D
but i got 2h +9 sword
Eziekial
03-26-2008, 12:14 AM
Ok its like this i am a 2h swordsman lvl 55 and my def is 436 now i realy wanna be a tank but i dont like much 1h sword i realy like 2h sword but my def is low cuz u cant have 2h and a shield now i been puting points on end stats from lvl 28 32 and 34-40 and from 44-55 every thing betwen or from 1-28 went on STR or SPR
free stats info:
22 STR
13 END
now is it wroth puting more points on END or on STR ? And i am in parties a
lot so usualy im the only fighter with not real good def xD
I agree with what the other guy said, +9 all your armor. that will double your defense.
MiDoElBaShA
03-26-2008, 04:31 AM
i am talking about 2h user i know if i get shield i will 1k too but i tdont like it.
for the +++ armor those are hard to get im not made of money u know :D
but i got 2h +9 sword
just a tip from a poor fighter to a poor fighter,
stop you're training for some time.
either go to roumen with your fighter or give 20s to a storage char and let him make scrolls. i was making def, vit and power scrolls. i give about 50 each to my fighter and then sell the others. i get more than double what i put in buying the matrials and now instead of having a poor shield and armor, i've a +6 shield and end+12 armor and about 250s.
i didn't take long to get money and it'll surely help you buy better equips.
all you need is patience,
sometimes the shop gets cleared in less than an hour and sometimes it takes me almost a full day to sell the scrolls. but he profit is worth it.
gop14
03-26-2008, 05:22 AM
END if u r in a pt whit a mage lssb lvl 45 cant lvl up coz i got no quest to do:(
but u have good stats put more then end & u will b the best
DJready
03-26-2008, 07:05 AM
bah selling scrolls thats boring i can go in lvl 50-59 abyss and i get some action there and exp too all less than 3 hours u can get more than 100s.
But for 9+ armors lvl 50 its around 1-3g and not a lot of ppl makes them to make my own with me doing the enhancemants thats silly lol i whould destroy it at +1 not worth money and for outspark money i dont have the credit cards and even if i had i whould think twice before spending all that money on perfect red stones and perfect blue stones.
But for all my gear i usualy buy only those with the best END for cheap silver :D
so my sword 2h is 9+ now is it good to go more with STR or END i still cant decide if i put more end i will be able to tank more but my attack will sux, if i go for STR my attack whould own but i never whould be able to tank a lot ?
MiDoElBaShA
03-26-2008, 02:43 PM
bah selling scrolls thats boring i can go in lvl 50-59 abyss and i get some action there and exp too all less than 3 hours u can get more than 100s.
But for 9+ armors lvl 50 its around 1-3g and not a lot of ppl makes them to make my own with me doing the enhancemants thats silly lol i whould destroy it at +1 not worth money and for outspark money i dont have the credit cards and even if i had i whould think twice before spending all that money on perfect red stones and perfect blue stones.
But for all my gear i usualy buy only those with the best END for cheap silver :D
so my sword 2h is 9+ now is it good to go more with STR or END i still cant decide if i put more end i will be able to tank more but my attack will sux, if i go for STR my attack whould own but i never whould be able to tank a lot ?
that's why i said you need patience,
instead of leveing 9 lvls and getting 100s,
why not lvl once and get 100s.
when you're eating or watching TV or doing sth else,
open fiesta with a purchase store to buy the matrials.
then when you're sleeping or out,
open fiesta to sell the scrolls.
yes not many people make +9 items and so you might need to do them yourself. but if you've enough money, you can get help from an enhancer to get you a +9.
-Leona-
03-27-2008, 08:59 PM
if you test this yourself
each 2 END from free stats = 10 HP + 1 DEF
each 2 END from equips = 10 HP + 2 DEF
yes the END from the free stats will help a bit,
BUT the bonus DMG every 5 STR would benefit a 2h user more than END.
so he could have the same DEF as a full END ( the def in window and bonus ) while having more STR.
:/ hmmmm just so u know the Endurance u get from items yes it adds more stat window defence yes as Horinia said it decreases damage in means of percentage and the percentage is really low so in order to see a huge difference u need lots of defence.
THE ENDURANCE FROM FREE STAT is virtual defence that is not shown in your character window BUT IT DECREASES the damage directly from the damage u would receive after calc of your defence and the amount of damage of the attacker.
If u dont' know what u r saying plz dont' pretend u know it :/.
Although i am one of the people who agrees that str from free stats is much more usefull than end saying end from equips is much more usefull than free stat end is plain ridicolous.
RESEARCH more than come up with an opinion ^^.
MiDoElBaShA
03-28-2008, 03:43 AM
:/ hmmmm just so u know the Endurance u get from items yes it adds more stat window defence yes as Horinia said it decreases damage in means of percentage and the percentage is really low so in order to see a huge difference u need lots of defence.
THE ENDURANCE FROM FREE STAT is virtual defence that is not shown in your character window BUT IT DECREASES the damage directly from the damage u would receive after calc of your defence and the amount of damage of the attacker.
If u dont' know what u r saying plz dont' pretend u know it :/.
Although i am one of the people who agrees that str from free stats is much more usefull than end saying end from equips is much more usefull than free stat end is plain ridicolous.
RESEARCH more than come up with an opinion ^^.
you still don't get what i mean
instead of him adding END and using 2h with str equips,
it would be better for him to put str in free stats and use END equips.
because if you add END in free stats,
means that you're giving up the benefit of having the extra DMG every 5 STR. so if you think about it, it's better to add STR and get END equips as the benefit of extra DMG plus the extra DEF from the END in equips will always win STR from equips and END in free stats.
yes the END in fee stats decreases the DMG taken directly BUT it's not that big. my friend is a lvl 45 full end fighter. i'm a 45 mix fighter with 20 end rest str. while bieng in the same party with a 4x cleric, the DMG dealt on him is around 30 or 40 less than me (GGK normal hit ). seeing that he has 30 END more than me and our def is roughly the same ( he's more than me by about 6 or so ), that's not a big difference. so the END from free stats doesn't help that much unless you're talking about 60 or so END.
ne3deka42
03-29-2008, 11:40 PM
well im just starting im gonna be a shield and 1h sword so i can have good defense but also pack a slamming attk
dmg btw are there any attk skills for shield?
lazy_bum
03-30-2008, 12:34 AM
I know this is off topic, but MiDoElBaShA your sig is awesome.
DJready
03-30-2008, 01:13 AM
well im just starting im gonna be a shield and 1h sword so i can have good defense but also pack a slamming attk
dmg btw are there any attk skills for shield?
1h cant have good attack cuz its already made like that 1h doing fast attack but not a lot.
2h sword not realy that slow they are kinda sweet center betwen 1h and axe and they hit pritty good
2h axe realy slow but have amazing dmg
MiDoElBaShA
03-30-2008, 01:52 AM
thx man
1h can deal high DMG ( not as high as axes but still high ) if you get a +9 1handed sword that has a good base wa and loads of str. for example a GGK 1h or ZK 1h, they've the highest base wa and loads of stats. so you can deal pretty awsome DMG with them. i just got a str+19 end+20 dex+1x ggk sword. i used it instead of my +5 cutlas and the dmg drop isn't that big.
so a +9 GGK 1h will make you're dmg high.
DJready
03-31-2008, 03:07 AM
lol u cant compare 9+ and normal 2h
compare 9+ 1h and +9 2h !
and u cant compare good stated 1h vs 2h no stats u have to compare them bouth with same stuff
its like ferrari vs skyline ferrari whould probobly eat skyline with no mods
thats why ferrari cost like 10x more than skyline and has more HP
but spend same money on skyline u did on ferrari lol skyline wont just own ferrari it will own all supercars !
xx1sparta1xx
04-01-2008, 01:39 PM
i wanna be 2h tank