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thrakx
03-27-2008, 07:08 AM
Does High lvl exp suck? You tell me!

I think its almost as bad as a poopy-flavored lollypop

joshiasi
03-27-2008, 07:17 AM
kinda... but the new maps did increase the exp a bit

Khrim
03-27-2008, 08:02 AM
Very bad. :(

Xanthe
03-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Bad even with new maps.

catry
03-27-2008, 08:32 AM
For someone who only has time for at most 3 or 4 hours a day on weekdays, it's pathetic, especially when I can lose several days worth of xp in the span of 5 minutes.
What really annoys me though is how the recent "leveling balance" has made it three times easier for lower leveled players while doing squat for those above level 50...all that's happening now is that people are reaching second class in 2 weeks where it took me nearly 2 months.
So yes. It really sucks.

xyangster
03-27-2008, 08:35 AM
Bad >.<

I stopped playing my scout. And knowing that 1) my scout hasn't even hit lvl 60 yet and 2) scouts are probably the fastest at soloing at this point, I know how much worse it must be for other players. Pfffft.

Propanol
03-27-2008, 09:13 AM
I really wish they would provide enojoyable aspects other than killing->killing->leveling...

Rodaa
03-27-2008, 09:36 AM
technicly, i think the exp you're getting around 45ish should be the exp you're getting in the 6x levels, maybe even higher...

Nixxy
03-27-2008, 09:59 AM
Its not so bad, with edine so crowded i took a break from training for a while so hopefully these new maps will allow some freedom again!

Katlyn
03-27-2008, 10:11 AM
technicly, i think the exp you're getting around 45ish should be the exp you're getting in the 6x levels, maybe even higher...

It's disheartening to think that experience is going to get worse -- as it is my two high 40's characters experience is pitiful, even when I'm on maps with pink or red mobs. The things those mobs drop are even more pitiful, but that's another topic altogether.

In response to the person who asked what we'd all do if we leveled 'too fast', if Outspark would take some time to make the quest system more fun (quests associated with the correct levels, rewards for completing the quest are actually worth the effort and/or items you need to complete the quest) and got the guild system working I think we'd all have plenty to do -- grinding day in and day out is starting to get really tedious and given that the increased stats, gear & spells are often a real letdown (I'm not seeing that the new stuff/lvl2+ spells, etc. are really that much of an improvement over the stuff you had before the upgrade), the desire to continue to grind away just to get the next level gear/spell/etc is not something that will keep me here long term.

As another online community/game eventually learned, there is no such thing as having too much fun too fast :)

Zeltar
03-27-2008, 10:17 AM
anyone who's complaining in their 50s should wait till they get to 80+ to see how bad it really is.

the exp required per level goes up exponentially. so the leveling rebalance made it twice as easy at low levels, but did nothing to remove the brick wall, only delayed the brick wall by a couple of levels.

catry
03-27-2008, 10:26 AM
In response to the person who asked what we'd all do if we leveled 'too fast', if Outspark would take some time to make the quest system more fun (quests associated with the correct levels, rewards for completing the quest are actually worth the effort and/or items you need to complete the quest) and got the guild system working I think we'd all have plenty to do -- grinding day in and day out is starting to get really tedious and given that the increased stats, gear & spells are often a real letdown

I miss doing the quests that were time consuming but didn't involve killing stuff to collect drops...enjoyable, informative, and repeatable quests like the refining test, but for higher levels would really make me happy ;_;

Zeltar
03-27-2008, 10:41 AM
i haven't bothered with most quests as the reward isn't worth the time.

catry
03-27-2008, 10:47 AM
I prefer quests to endless grinding...it may be time consuming yes, but I generally find that the xp and/or items was worth the time. (This only means quests where killing stuff isn't necessary, like the refining test, or the milk run...everything else really tends to be pretty lame imo << )
...basically I want a way to level that doesn't involve endless killing and mindless grinding!!! >o<

DiforceX
03-27-2008, 11:14 AM
despite of the game balance changes it was a nightmare for me to lvl 54-66, now i also ask me: is it possible for me to reach the 3 cls ?
i think it is only possible for people who play a lot (maybe 14 hrs a day + )
and with exp boosts
i have not the time to play so much, it is just a question of time before i must quit again x-X

Eupsicle
03-27-2008, 11:17 AM
@ Level 75+ and even in Edine, exp sucked while soloing and in pts.
Solo: Like around .03-.06 (depends on level..)
Party: .01-.03..

Boosters not included...


I was on a lvl 75+ cleric and in a pt and only gainned .02 in a full pt @ the new maps.
Haven't tried soloing yet.. xD

Exp is too low.....

Khrim
03-27-2008, 11:59 AM
I really wish they would provide enojoyable aspects other than killing->killing->leveling...

It's more like...

killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing-> Leveling!

And the main reason Thrakx and me were complaining about it even though we're only 5x is because we KNOW it's going to get worse...

catry
03-27-2008, 12:11 PM
It's more like...

killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing -> dying -> dying ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing ->killing-> Leveling!

And the main reason Thrakx and me were complaining about it even though we're only 5x is because we KNOW it's going to get worse...

You're about a thousand 'killings' short @_@

Rodaa
03-27-2008, 01:37 PM
in my case it was...

killing->killing->killing->get bored so take a break (which lasts for a week)... Etc...


there is in fact no levelling

doady
03-27-2008, 01:57 PM
I agree -- I played WoW for 3 years and at least the quests were fun and rewarded experience appropriately. Whoever's behind how much exp we get for the quests in this game should be fired... 125exp? give me a break.

There are a LOT of high quality quests in this game, just the experience as reward needs to be BEEFED up majorly. No one is going to go do errands for a quest giver, wasting precious time, only to get 100exp .. pfft.

grinding to level is part of any MMO, but the one in this game is ridiculous, unless they only want 1% of the game population to reach high level...

thrakx
03-27-2008, 02:44 PM
this wasnt sposed to be a serious thread you guys.

It was more like "I think exp is as bad as a ____" <-----Insert funny thing here, thread.

I know exp sucks for you guys. I still think it sucks even though I still can get a very decent .15 some places with my boost going.

Lets try this again.

I think exp sucks almost as much as a turd flavored sandwhich. what do you think?

Eupsicle
03-27-2008, 04:28 PM
..........................................D:

I think exp is as bad as a "no comment". :/
Should have explained it on first post until now... @@

Orangeman21
03-27-2008, 04:30 PM
The only thing worse than exp. rate is the exp. penalty when you die.:p

TKhaos
03-27-2008, 05:15 PM
The only thing worse than exp. rate is the exp. penalty when you die.:p

The only thing worse than death is a stupid death, like having an idiot with an AoE sized mob of all agros die right in front of you.:cool:

Eupsicle
03-27-2008, 05:26 PM
The only thing worse than death is a stupid death, like having an idiot with an AoE sized mob of all agros die right in front of you.:cool:

Lmfao. That kind of really death sucks.

gameranch
03-27-2008, 05:48 PM
Does High lvl exp suck? You tell me!

I think its almost as bad as a poopy-flavored lollypop

yeah .. it sucks

Khrim
03-27-2008, 08:11 PM
I think exp sucks as much as a g....erm...I don't think I'm allowed to say it >.<

thrakx
03-27-2008, 08:16 PM
god you guys are NOT being very creative

CharliePace
03-27-2008, 08:19 PM
The only thing worse than death is a stupid death, like having an idiot with an AoE sized mob of all agros die right in front of you.:cool:

Meh. I think frozen screen/lag deaths are way worst. And yeah, the death penalty sucks. Every time I die I feel the urge to just stop playing this game.

thrakx
03-27-2008, 09:04 PM
also a sucky one is the cant move/cast glitch till you double click the mob

gameranch
03-28-2008, 02:04 AM
~ I think the exp sucks as a *censored* ...

And if they wouldn't try changing the death penalty, It could be better if they just lessen the aggressiveness of some mobs and higher the exp rate ..

Minryu
03-28-2008, 02:25 AM
We've all been complaining about it for quite some time, but nothing has changed. I wonder if it ever will.. I doubt it. :(

Khrim
03-28-2008, 02:35 AM
^-^ Probably not, but at least complaining gives us something to do.

Minryu
03-28-2008, 02:58 AM
^-^ Probably not, but at least complaining gives us something to do.

Yep lol.

SoS has been mostly grinding and complaining xD

Shudoe
03-28-2008, 06:36 AM
The EXP does kind of suck, and I'm not even a high lvl. It took me 8 hrs just to get from 20% to 90% at lvl 43, that's with dieing once. I remember it took me about 20 min to get to lvl 16 and turn neophyte. And another note, it's annoying that you won't know what stats are required for your 2nd class change until you get to that lvl. It'd be nice if you could see them and plan ahead, especially if your a neophyte or acolyte since you have 2 choices.

Zeltar
03-28-2008, 06:40 AM
The EXP does kind of suck, and I'm not even a high lvl. It took me 8 hrs just to get from 20% to 90% at lvl 43, that's with dieing once. I remember it took me about 20 min to get to lvl 16 and turn neophyte. And another note, it's annoying that you won't know what stats are required for your 2nd class change until you get to that lvl. It'd be nice if you could see them and plan ahead, especially if your a neophyte or acolyte since you have 2 choices.

if going scout/disciple you get a free stat reset, so it is irrelevent what you do with your Neo/acolyte stats, so assign them for the best use now. if going Rogue/Cleric there arnt any requirements, you just continue with the same stats(no stat reset).

Shudoe
03-28-2008, 07:05 AM
if going scout/disciple you get a free stat reset, so it is irrelevent what you do with your Neo/acolyte stats, so assign them for the best use now. if going Rogue/Cleric there arnt any requirements, you just continue with the same stats(no stat reset).
Oh, ok...did not know that. :P Thanks.

Orangeman21
03-28-2008, 07:10 AM
Ok to get this thread back on topic. High level exp is like falling into a sewer system filled with waste(use your imagination about what the waste is).

thrakx
03-28-2008, 07:23 AM
THANKS TO YOU DIPPLE!! and the other 2 people who understood what this thread was about.

Yes we know the exp sucks. NOT THE POINT.

The point was to make a funny statement about it. Even funnier, when i make threads, everyone seems to post on all the ones that were only made by boredom, therefore having no relevence to anything i cared about. LMAO!

Khrim
03-28-2008, 11:17 AM
Yep lol.

SoS has been mostly grinding and complaining xD

:3 yepyepyepyep

Break
03-28-2008, 12:16 PM
High level EXP will get better.

Soulcard
03-28-2008, 12:22 PM
High level EXP will get better.

Woot.

*claps in his hands and bows*

Its a pitty that i live in a different timezone so its hard to get known of you GMs.

I know its hard but u got anymore specific info.

Thanks Break *BIG SMILE*

MarvHartigan
03-28-2008, 12:22 PM
O_O ...hopefully better than last exp update

Adios!

StriderHiryu
03-28-2008, 12:36 PM
High level EXP will get better.

Ah!!! Galinggggg

Orangeman21
03-28-2008, 12:57 PM
That is great news even though this isn't what this thread was supposed to be about. So the new exp. will be like a plushdoll or a spikeball?

Convent
03-28-2008, 12:59 PM
Woot! =O I'm so tired of .04 on dark red mobs. It takes me 2 hours to get 8%...dying sucks. Dx

*hugs Break* ^^

Minryu
03-28-2008, 01:00 PM
Hm. I wonder what they consider "high level".

Woo my 100th post! lol xD

Maximi11ion
03-28-2008, 01:14 PM
High level EXP will get better.

CTRL+6 XD

jmoua9
03-28-2008, 01:49 PM
Of course the exp is bad (obviously), when i aoe, each mob gives me 01 to nada per mob (yes with a booster too). Also with the new maps, im getting a 01 and sometimes 02 in a 4man party going against blood red mobs. I really hope the "exp will get better" really does get better.

DiforceX
03-28-2008, 02:18 PM
better exp ??! no i don't be happy too fast
maybe 0,01 or 0,015 % i think on the last change x_X
now ok i will see it:rolleyes:

Khrim
03-28-2008, 02:59 PM
High level EXP will get better.

:D We love you break!

Please make it worth killing for ;p

itoast26
03-28-2008, 04:48 PM
woo.. then again.. see you in two months!!:D

thrakx
03-28-2008, 04:49 PM
High level EXP will get better.

Could you post ON-topic please? xP

(blowing my mind how much attention this thread has gotten since I started it...AND how little anyone has participated in the comparing of exp to stuff...*** is even going on here!?)

Oh well I guess Ill try again.

I think exp sucks almost as bad as getting teamed up on by 6 bolla snakes at lvl 45, cause you followed some one to rudwork, and then they died leaving you alone.

thrakx
03-28-2008, 04:50 PM
CTRL+6 XD

CTRL+2 omg max LMFAO

Khrim
03-28-2008, 05:42 PM
Exp sucks as bad as a crappy player who thinks they're too good for you O.o

Kaiyane
03-28-2008, 08:11 PM
what i would like is the loss of exp to decrease if your lvl is higher. its not easy to get back

Khrim
03-28-2008, 08:29 PM
what i would like is the loss of exp to decrease if your lvl is higher. its not easy to get back

Agreed, I nearly died because I was sidetracked by somebody attacking the monsters I was reflection AOEing (they were trying to help and stopped when I asked them to but I was at 5 hp when I clicked my +200 health pot @_@). *curls up in a ball* I'm scared of AOEing on that map now.

FrostyFiz
03-28-2008, 08:42 PM
Well i cant say much, but I'll say this getting .01 does really suck for most of us..

And like many of us have said dying you probably lose 4 times the xp u actually gained....

Orangeman21
03-28-2008, 08:45 PM
This thread is hopelessly off topic. In a futile attempt to get this thread on-topic. Exp. is as bad as how bad this thread has gone off-topic.

FrostyFiz
03-28-2008, 08:54 PM
This thread is hopelessly off topic. In a futile attempt to get this thread on-topic. Exp. is as bad as how bad this thread has gone off-topic.
lol fine fine dipple -.-

EXP is as bad as a ninja gerbil kicking chuck norris' booooty

Muchiko
03-28-2008, 09:06 PM
Exp is as bad as Alastor tries to be. (He does try, but he's just <3<3)

Edit
Wait I think I'm gonna rephrase it to:

Exp is as bad as Alastors atemp to be evil. :D

thrakx
03-28-2008, 09:14 PM
or as bad as muxi's attempt at some Alastor related insulting. xP

Muchiko
03-28-2008, 09:21 PM
Noooo.. It's showing my love for Alastor<3 *sob sob*

Khrim
03-28-2008, 09:24 PM
Exp is as bad as "somebody's" threads ;)

Thrakx should know who :D (so should several NOTK members *coughs and glances at her monster guid then at another thread with a glare*)

ggBuRNe
03-29-2008, 05:47 AM
High level EXP will get better.

Yeah especially new maps.. we get less 0.05 per mob solo in Sherwood Valley.. 0.01 in a big pt.. duo is 0.02.. and the mob can kill me in 3-4 shot with 200+ def.. so the exp is unreasonable for now..

thrakx
03-29-2008, 06:11 AM
wait khrim whos threads? Mikeh? or that Mr hottie guy?

Khrim
03-29-2008, 09:59 AM
wait khrim whos threads? Mikeh? or that Mr hottie guy?

:P Mr hottie

thrakx
03-29-2008, 06:14 PM
well in my book both their threads are equally as bad as the experience is above lvl 50

Khrim
03-29-2008, 08:56 PM
well in my book both their threads are equally as bad as the experience is above lvl 50

xD Hehehe, so true

SilverTitan
03-29-2008, 11:27 PM
the exp is as bad as being a little girl with 5crazy guys on steroids charging at u
._."

thrakx
03-30-2008, 02:42 AM
how about exp is as bad as drinking warm malt liquer?

Khrim
03-30-2008, 08:30 AM
how about exp is as bad as drinking warm malt liquer?

*shivers*

Exp is as bad as dropping the soap in jail :eek:

davisf18
03-30-2008, 08:45 AM
meh its ok, im not that high of a level so watever >>

Khrim
03-30-2008, 08:46 AM
meh its ok, im not that high of a level so watever >>

*kicks the statement* NOT THE POINT! It's a "exp sucks as bad as..." thread -.- so yours was sooooo off topic!

davisf18
03-30-2008, 08:56 AM
um free forums, i can say what i want >>

SilverTitan
03-30-2008, 03:53 PM
*shivers*

Exp is as bad as dropping the soap in jail :eek:

O.O nothing is worse than that

exp is as bad as broccoli tastes D:

thrakx
03-30-2008, 05:47 PM
Exp is as bad as Toru's weak attempts at humor

Muchiko
03-30-2008, 06:03 PM
Exp is as bad as the chances of a lvl 80+ cleric finding a party.

Khrim
03-30-2008, 07:18 PM
Exp is as bad as the chances of a lvl 80+ cleric finding a party.

So true :P We all want the little baby acos! ^_^

um free forums, i can say what i want >>

O.o o rly? So I suppose the TOS is there just to take up space?

thrakx
03-30-2008, 09:13 PM
So true :P We all want the little baby acos! ^_^



O.o o rly? So I suppose the TOS is there just to take up space?

*super ownage*

gwawk
03-30-2008, 09:23 PM
exp is as bad as.....well, me ><

thrakx
03-30-2008, 09:24 PM
man that guy IS easily distracted....

florencels
03-30-2008, 11:59 PM
very bad. the new maps doesnt help anything....becoz some mobs in the new maps use magic att.. -_-
my party (8 ppl), everyone died at least twice when we run from edline to the third of new map.

everyone stay in edline . i get 0.01 ea when i solo..-_- if i party , i get 0.002-0.003 ea...

Kage_Ninja
03-31-2008, 01:45 AM
exp is bad as having your laptop shut off when your fighting a mob or trying to run away from one,this caused me like what a total of 4-5 lvls

CharliePace
03-31-2008, 01:54 AM
Exp is as bad as the putrid stench of Adeline's rotting corpse. Seriously, forget about saving her, she's definitely dead by now. Time to find us a new princess. :)

Orangeman21
03-31-2008, 06:04 AM
Exp. is as bad as ranged and AoE mobs.

kioji_Y
03-31-2008, 08:42 AM
[QUOTE=catry;528321]For someone who only has time for at most 3 or 4 hours a day on weekdays, it's pathetic[QUOTE]

for people who has less than 3 hr per day and dies often, its terrible

joshiasi
03-31-2008, 09:27 AM
I would understand the exp if the cap was like 99 but it goes way beyond that... so something has to be done with the exp... new maps dont help out too... i hate those range mobs and its a pain to really track in the mini-map less areas... i like soloing in the last map as less mobs and no range... or maybe i just dont feel those big steroid using mobs in skis with funny names... one was Oh Hammer and the other was U Hammer... i was about to think that there was a MC Hammer there too... =O

ace7580
03-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Lvl-84 knight

i totaly agree that the exp is profetic at high lvls..i mean im struggling to get to 25% at my current lvl it just bores me to tears killing endlessly.

i get moaned at if i try to aoe a map or i just dont have the kron to aoe.
and still that takes ages too.

something must be done about it.:(

dylanangel
03-31-2008, 11:29 AM
Lvl-84 knight

i totaly agree that the exp is profetic at high lvls..i mean im struggling to get to 25% at my current lvl it just bores me to tears killing endlessly.

i get moaned at if i try to aoe a map or i just dont have the kron to aoe.
and still that takes ages too.

something must be done about it.:(

Aww ace I will keep you company ;)

florencels
03-31-2008, 11:29 PM
High level EXP will get better.

not really Break, i get 0.18 ea in edline when i use the 100% book...T_T
it takes me the whole day to lv..T_T

thrakx
04-03-2008, 10:48 AM
exp is as bad as SERVER MAINTENANCE!!!

(ok i know its necessary but I still hate it.)