Cleric Only Guild.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

I'm only level 22, but I'm searching for a mature Cleric only guild in Epith server, if there is not one, then I do plan to create one.

[x_Ace_x]

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard of.

[Eternal_Doom]

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard of.

I know a. cleric only guild? that would be the worst guild ever it would take ages for you to kill 3 hakarans

[Nul_RagnaRok]

I know a. cleric only guild? that would be the worst guild ever it would take ages for you to kill 3 hakarans

Shows how much you Kids know about Clerics ~.^ I've heard of quite a few Cleric only guilds in different servers. Go learn something, then put my idea down. Aslong as you're ignorant, I could not care less :D

[x_Ace_x]

What can a cleric only guild do that a well balanced guild can't do better? Besides the obvious creation of a preppy elitist group. I'd much rather have a sense of individuality like I can find in other guilds.

[Asmodejjj]

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard of.

Tell that to Red_Cross, only guild in Bijou to be made of only clerics.......

[x_Ace_x]

Thanks for the notice. I did.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

Thanks for the notice. I did.


You've got a knack for bringing down other peoples ideas. Lack of creativity to come up with your own? >_>

Significance of a Cleric guild.

1. I do not see a full party of Clerics being taken down by anything if they're the correct level.
2. Fun. What's not fun about a Cleric?
3. People eventually wanting a Cleric from our guild in their party, "Hey, that guild has really good Clerics, maybe one of their number will party with us?"
4. Sharing builds, Learning the diversity of our class.
5. Many reasons I'm too tired to write. Just ask around? Everyone has their own reasons. I'll bet that the good reasons outweigh the bad by far.


Tell that to Red_Cross, only guild in Bijou to be made of only clerics.......

Thanks for naming a guild off ~.^ Obviously it's not that stupid if someone else has already created one, and it seems to be doing well for itself.

I hate ignorant people. :(

[IceFireshot]

This would be a great guild when its PvE
I think you might have trouble is guild wars, but otherwise good luck
i have seen one person in this guild so far

[x_Ace_x]

Lack of creativity to come up with your own? >_>
My idea is a normal guild that doesn't discriminate against other classes thank you very much.

You people make me sick.

"Ooooh, a cleric only guild what fun!" Getting a huge mob pulled on your group isn't fun, and neither are the resulting deaths when a fighter isn't around to mock. Out of guild parties aren't fun, especially when that "really good cleric" spends more time on random parties than they do the guild. Stuck up clerics - of which there is an abundance no matter where I seem to go - aren't fun. Cleric only parties are not awesome, when you have several hundred thousand exp behind you, and just as many to go. Putting on your tier 3 scrolls in the morning, only to see a slow cleric party killing the Zombie King you need 10 minutes later, is not cool. Sharing builds, just to learn the diversity of your class, eating through the pockets of your wallet with stat resets is not cool, especially when you can't afford that crap. Friends who are ahead of you in levels by double digits isn't cool. Getting completely lost because your guild can't level you quickly like it's supposed to, just sitting there and hoping against hope the nightmare ends before you run out of patience, isn't cool.

And after months and months of this idea, starting to go away, then coming back again, I can't stand the sight of it. Oh, and apparently I'm ignorant.

[mavricgabriel]

What can a cleric only guild do that a well balanced guild can't do better? Besides the obvious creation of a preppy elitist group. I'd much rather have a sense of individuality like I can find in other guilds.

This is just an enlightenment...

The Red_Cross Guild is not a guild for AOE grinding party or its not a grinding party itself. It is composed of players who are very willing to help out other guilds & players which in need of good support clerics for party, reviving people, giving buff and random healing when other players need it. Ofcourse, we (im one of the members BTW-a lvl 49 cleric) do not tolerate those who take advantage of our healing/reviving abilities nor do we give respect to those who are very demanding. Although we still give it when they say the magic word "PLEASE".:)

We are most likely acknowledge as a very helpful guild in bijou. And we do not make comparison with other guilds in terms of GW or AOE parties (which BTW are not being warred by other guilds because of these reputation).

So i hope that clear things up:D

And by the way, GL on your all cleric guild:cool:

[Nerevar158]

All cleric guild don't sound too bad. Seriously though I would make sure I could contact your guild to get me a nice cleric to duo with ^^
It would make life alot easier.

And I didn't think an all cleric would be doing too many guild parties :/
I wish you luck also keep us updated on the progress too if possible :D

[Ashuryu]

An all cleric guild would be an iterseting fight in a guild war, keep me up to date with your progress, Archangel would be honored to be one of your guild war opponents.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

Thanks for your support folks ~.^ It really gets my spirits up. Sadly, this guild wont be up and running for a good while, not until I have the silver to make it. Currently I'm only 2x, So I'll be saving for a good while :D but no worries, the second the guild is up and running I plan to make a recruitment thread. ~.^

[x_Ace_x]

So i hope that clear things up:D
Yes, that clears everything up (logic has no sense here...)

[Nul_RagnaRok]

Yes, that clears everything up (logic has no sense here...)

Then why are you still arguing? >_> If logic has no sense, then neither does your own. So please, leave the thread. I'd rather not suffer from your negativity, I've got more people backing my idea than against it. Your point has been made, has been heard and obviously it does not matter to us. This is my decision, so I have the final say in what i create and why. If you don't agree then so be it, that's your choice. ~.^ As I said though, I refuse to listen to your negativity. Please shut the door on your way out.

[x_Ace_x]

So now your elitist group is too good for me? Though I'm glad you made my point by stating logic is irrelevant, even my own. No, especially my own. I'm stating excellent points of why your guild-to-be is a bad idea but it looks like anyone who isn't gung ho about making the guild has a negative attitude. And that anyone who has a negative attitude by your standards is not good enough to be remotely near your thread.

Bottom line? I was introduced to Fiesta in bad bunch, and clerics around ranged from kinda bad to ****ing ridiculous. So did the amount of pride they had in themselves (this one crazy kid was my favourite). I have an endless amount of dislike for clerics and no fun cleric only guild activities (though I am an active in other guilds) can redeem it. When it lasts for 10 weeks (and you still that one idiot still around) you learn to dislike the class, and everything it brings with it. So I figured a whole guild of them would be a nightmare.

That's all for me. I plead the Fifth. And, last one out turns off the coffee pot.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

So now your elitist group is too good for me? Though I'm glad you made my point by stating logic is irrelevant, even my own. No, especially my own. I'm stating excellent points of why your guild-to-be is a bad idea but it looks like anyone who isn't gung ho about making the guild has a negative attitude. And that anyone who has a negative attitude by your standards is not good enough to be remotely near your thread.

Bottom line? I was introduced to Fiesta in bad bunch, and clerics around ranged from kinda bad to ****ing ridiculous. So did the amount of pride they had in themselves (this one crazy kid was my favourite). I have an endless amount of dislike for clerics and no fun cleric only guild activities (though I am an active in other guilds) can redeem it. When it lasts for 10 weeks (and you still that one idiot still around) you learn to dislike the class, and everything it brings with it. So I figured a whole guild of them would be a nightmare.

That's all for me. I plead the Fifth. And, last one out turns off the coffee pot.


You've really got an attitude problem... What makes my group so elitist when I've seen so many other "Insert Class Here" Guilds. How did I make your point stating logic is irrelevant? You stated logic has no sense, Then why do you keep trying make your own point using your own "Logic"? You keep arguing why this is a bad idea. I've yet to see solid proof to your claims. Yes, this is my thread, your negative outlook on this idea has been taken down, you've stated why this is a bad idea, sure. Why are you still here? >_> Do you seek arguments just for the fun of it?

I think Aces_Nightmare might actually be a great guild name. Just to tweak you off ~.^

Go adjust your attitude. This is a game. We're meant to have fun. Stop being a killjoy.

Anyways, What did I ever do to you that created this hostility? >_> You've been hovering around this thread for how long?

Is pride in ones class a good enough reason for you to discriminate against them? O.o For you to dislike them?

Just get over yourself kid. You can live in your little world of hate, but all you'll ever find is pain. Your choice, your decision. ~.^

This is my choice, my decision. :D

If you really want to talk about elitist groups then by all means do so, create your own thread dedicated to it. Hopefully you're not blinded enough by your own words to see the hypocrisy in it.

[Jhanniss]

Guilds suck period. Why bother joining one. It's just an elitest approach from that of the regular gamer.

Oh pretty orange and red colors. *lights match* :x

[x_Ace_x]

So, apparently, my welcome has worn out. I'll try not to let the door hit me on the *** on the way out. It was great fun while it lasted, but unlike many comers and goers, this will be the last time. Possibly to the delight of many of you, I'll probably go become a hero shortly.

I won't ask anyone, myself or you, to keep an open mind, because people will have that, or they won't. I will ask, however, that you never state things as fact that you cannot support. I've seen enough of this and I'd like to see it die out. Even if you believe it's the God's Honest Truth that I'm seeking arguments "for the fun of it", until you can prove it, mercurially repeating it is no different than a Fundamentalist Christian talking about how God made the world in exactly seven days, all humans are descended from Adam and Eve, and the King James Bible might as well be from God Himself.

But, angels be praised, I'm done arguing with you. All you have shown is countless logical fallacies which follow and I'm kinda tired of it.

argumentum ad personam
You've really got an attitude problem...
Ad hominem tu quoque
I've seen so many other "Insert Class Here" Guilds.
As another final note, I expect arguments to be mature. If someone makes a mistake, or you prove them wrong, you leave it at that. If you add so much as a "You're a killjoy" or make comments "to tweak me off" to one of these, then I'm done. No more, since you're not mature enough for mature arguments.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

This should never have generated an argument in the first place. The fact that it did is proof enough that he was only here for the sake of argument.

I'm sorry but i believe he's the type of person so blinded by their own convictions that they see only what they want to see, and how they want to see it. He's just going to have to grow up and learn the world doesnt work that way.

Thank you for your opinion Jhanniss. I never believed Guilds were "Elitist", just a group of people wanting to create a friendly or perhaps family scenario. The point of a guild is just to have fun ~.^ I have friends on the game, and I like them all xD They're awesome and very helpful. Kudos to them. I think a guild is another step toward growth in friendship in a game.

[Nul_RagnaRok]

I'm sorry if X_Ace_X and I chased alot of people away. >_> I let it get out of hand, and I believe I could have controlled myself better.

Ace, I'm sorry if i offended you in any way. I'll admit I was wrong in fighting with you. Fighting is a waste of time. I'll admit I have some issues with anger, and atleast I controlled myself by not submitting to it. You said

I won't ask anyone, myself or you, to keep an open mind, because people will have that, or they won't.

How about we keep an open mind on this? ~.^ Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, when they're based upon our own beliefs they're not wrong. I accept your opinions, I take them to heart. Sir, although I disagree with what you say, I'll fight for your right to say it.

[Fightmeimstrong]

Hey you looking for a cleric only guild on Epith? I know one but i dont know the guild mastor :( the guild is called TombRadiors look for someone woth that guild

hope my info helped



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