Cleric Str Build Question

[zxzlenin]

Hello im new to game currently level 16 cleric,i am thinking on going with 25 SPR then rest STR, i like to solo but i been doing good also on KQ healing and being support. My question is do i "need" END? i been reading builds and END seems to be a very common build.

1. Is END build just for tanking?
2.How does 25SPR, Full STR compares to FULL END build, (PVP,PVE and KQ)
3.Having 25SPR,and full STR makes for no END and high level monster i mean like level 40+

[Deux_Murakama]

1. End Build is mostly for tanking, doesnt take much effect until its stacked up unless you continously fight mobs your level then just a simple +10 ~15 would help

2.25 spr rest Str is great build if your a solo clerics, strong his with higher rates of strong Criticals i would give that build a grade A

Full Str is a great build also if you plan on soloing the whole game

Full End>_< I would say is not really a good idea for a cleic, though others might disagree i dont think there's any cleric that has made it past lvl 55 with full end, it really doesnt helpin Party's much because people want a fighter to tank n ful end build is that of a tank, unless cleric leatn mock or continue spam healing/ rejuv/ ecover themselves throughout thewhole mob to keep aggro which would be a waste of sp stones and pots etc.


3. What do you mean by that?

[zxzlenin]

i mean if i go for 25 spr,then full str at high level having no END will it be ok since i can probably kill fast?

[Thasmudyan]

For solo, having no END is fine as you aren't trying to fight more than one or two at once, generally speaking. If you plan to primarily solo, a STR-based build is highly recommended.

For partying, END is preferable, due to the amount of agro clerics can draw with their heals. You can still party fine as a STR cleric, but the STR is of little benefit, as in a party you probably aren't fighting that much. So if you plan to party mostly, go with END.

SPR is pretty good for both situations - the crits will help you in solo, and the SP and M.def will help you in a party.

[vasu619]

1. No, END build is primarily a support build for parties, though if you're a CS user and can +9 your equips, pure END should do just fine for solo.

2. PvP: No. Pure END is probably the worst build to have for PvP. While you'll be taking very little dmg, you'll be doing even less dmg. I'm a pure END cleric, an while I can outlast anybody my lvl in PvP, it doesn't mean I can kill them.

PvE: Fine. Pure END is a so-so build. Like I said, if you have a +9, it's no problem, but otherwise, you'd better have a lot of patience ( like me D:)

KQ: Pure END is, in my opinion, probably the best build to have in a KQ, as it's a support build which helps you in parties, and you can double up as a tank in the absence of a good fighter because of your higher def and HP.

3. Yes, a cleric of any build can solo monsters higher than his lvl because of heal. God, even a pure INT cleric (if one ever existed) would be able to solo high lvl monsters.


In case you wanted to know why pure END is a support build, it's because you'll be able to take a lot of beating from a monster before you have to heal yourself, and the time can be used in healing other party members. Also , spam healing the tank sometimes makes the monster attack you, in which case you'd probably be 1 hit KOed if you're not pure END and would therefore be of no use to the party dead.

[generaldave]

Isuma, I was full end til 60. My reasoning was that I am supposed to keep a party alive, how can I do that if I can't take a few hits myself? Then, I started building SPR for the magic defense. Yes, I am a slow killer, but that's how this class was intended to be and with letting someone else do the killing for you, there is no reason for us to be able to do more damage.

To answer the original post:
1. Full END is for tanking and to be able to take a beating, if you steal aggro.

2. Clerics don't do any damage at all compared to most classes. If you are looking for more a damage dealer, then 25 SPR rest STR is right for you. If your cleric is intended for PVP purposes, go with 25 SPR rest STR. If your looking to party alot, I suggest alot of END.

3. Please clarify what you are asking.

[Deux_Murakama]

Aha! I forgot about you Koobster, but even you also have to admit that the lvl 60 quest was a _ _ _ _ _ without much str, My build is rather unique because it was a little different in the beginning ( God i wish i had a stat reset) At my lvl of 65 i have str+60 dex+3 end+10 spr+5 and i can take a few hits without dieing while healing and certain things like magic attacks do bother me but I'd like to remind alot of people that evcen though clerics are needed, that is why most people are changing characters to clerics now.
An str build is good if you wish to solo but if you accidently steal aggro theres still an invince where yuou can shield yourself long enought for the tank to take aggro back

[Panma]

Hello im new to game currently level 16 cleric,i am thinking on going with 25 SPR then rest STR, i like to solo but i been doing good also on KQ healing and being support. My question is do i "need" END? i been reading builds and END seems to be a very common build.

1. Is END build just for tanking?
2.How does 25SPR, Full STR compares to FULL END build, (PVP,PVE and KQ)
3.Having 25SPR,and full STR makes for no END and high level monster i mean like level 40+

1. An End build is not just for tanking or for parties. I know a few people who can solo with it, it's just extremely annoying. Mainly because you'll be getting a lot of experience per monster, but it takes you forever to kill even one of them.

So, while an End build is not just for tanking, it is HIGHLY advised. Especially in AoE parties, where sometimes the tank gets too full of himself and tries to tank too many mobs, and dies. Then they all come to you!

2. One thing you have to understand is that Free Stats aren't really THAT important (at least not until ~level 50 where the HP difference becomes apparent). You could probally play the whole game just fine without using any. The reason is because you're going to end up buying equipment that makes up for whatever you lack. If you have a +9 weapon, you'll be getting a lot of +End equipment. If you have just a +0-3 weapon, you'll probally get a lot of +Str equipment.

And the game is at a point, where if you don't have a couple hundred silver by the time you're level 45, you're doing something horribly wrong. So you'll be able to afford whatever you need.

3. If I got your question right, you're asking whether going Full End or 25 Spr/Rest Str is going to affect how high of a level of enemies you can fight. Correct?
If yes, then it has nill impact. As I explained, you aren't really going to notice the difference of your build. The only real difference is in the amount of HP you have. At level 40, with +45 End, you would get +225 HP, which can be a life saver, but even if you have +0 End, you're going to find +End equipment, which is going to boost your HP back up anyways.


Now of course.. if you go the complete clanker route and go Full End, and +End equipments: you'll be a walking tank without a cannon. You can roll up anywhere you bloody well please, but you won't be able to do a dang thing once you get there. (At least in solo).

[iriaandbob]

The problem with a 100% END build for solo PVE is that your HP is way beyond your ability to heal. At level 38 I had 1100+ HP and yet my heal only does 610. So at a certain point theres dimishing returns. So at a certain point the extra HP doesnt do much good. Once you hit that point I recommend putting the rest into SPR for the CRIT % increase.

Also, depending on the bonuses on your equipment (presuming your not using vendor bought equip) changes what you would do. Part of the reason my HP was so high was due to the Robo earrings and +END rings I was wearing.

[scandiini]

uhm... your hp being beyond your ability to heal? what are you on about.

more hp = better
less hp = worse

If you can heal let's say 500 hp per heal, would you only want 500 hp then, or would you want 3.5k hp?

Extra hp is ALWAYS good.

[Drakalord]

Read my guide called Clerics guide and other stuff for builds, places to lvl up and other stuff all for clerics. If there is another question thread about clerics please post this on.