Monster summons in town concerns

[twilightcho]

I think it would be appropriate for the GM's to find a location that is less populated to do mass summons. for reasons of there are GM's spawning relatively high lvl summons in towns, the monster's they are summoning are all aggressive. so they kill all the vendors and any player that is under level 20 within 1-2 hits.*With the auto res timer, all the low lvl chars as well as the afk vendors are all spawning in the same spot which is causing massive lag. When players want to go to the kingdom quests they can't because the whole area where you go to "participate" is crowded with higher lvl spawns. The storage areas are off limits for extended periods of times as well because of the spawns.* I understand the enjoyment of having mass spawns and high level summons.. but please choose a better place then the square of Rouman. that is one of the most populated areas of the server and all it is doing is causing low lvl's to constantly die and lose exp. it is causing newer players leave the server and not play any longer or want to even play the game because of the constant dieing and lag.


I myself think this is a great game.* I'm only a lvl 16 right now but it does get annoying when you go back to town for any reason, like going to put things in storage, you use a scroll to get back to town.. then instantly die causing you to lose XP. Then being ressurected where there are about 30-40 other players being ressurected all at the same time and having to wait a good 30 seconds before you can move. Within that 30 second time period, because of all the aggro monster summons, you have a great chance of dieing again (losing more xp) because of a bad decision of a location to spawn monsters of such a high level.


Please do something about the area's that you are going to do mass summoning...

[Trebori]

You can enter into a KQ from anywhere. Click the bottom tab on the mini map.


You shouldn't be losing ANY exp from GM summoned mobs in town. try again.


They are "stress testing"* the servers. Meaning they need mass amounts of mobs and people in areas to push it to it's limit. I swear some people just don't understand Beta AT ALL! If you can't handle it, then why did you sign up for it? This beta is not for your own personal enjoyment. Get over it!

[Alejo17]

great post twilight im so thinking like u cuz u cant enter town in this lvls u got some serious lag and they are not stress testing the sever btw there aremany more ways to do that

[BaronSkippy]

Yeah, a major hub isn't the right place to test server load because even though it's closed beta you don't want your testers not testing just because you continue to choose stupid spots to host events.


Ye despite all that I'm impressed with the game and really enjoy it even when it gets frustrating like that.

[Felter]

You people should be ashamed of yourself, it is obvious that you are here for your own gratification and not the testing of this game. So what if you did lose some exp, what difference does it make, as soon enough the characters you are playing are not going to have any exp anyway. I myself did not exactly enjoy it because of the lag but i stuck it out because when i applied for the beta, i knew that we would be doing things like this,*the closed betas and*open betas that i have done, have done the exact same sort of thing one way or another and i expect that any other betas that i get involved with will do the same thing again, it is part of a beta testers game-play, if you don't like it then, leave no one is forcing you to do the beta test and there is probably plenty of other people who did not get the invite that are willing to take your places.

[BaronSkippy]

You do know were supposed to post our opinions of the game and it's goings ons right?


*don't come in here and be a jerk just because you don't like what others say.

[hyperswoss]

That's kind of the point to Beta <u>Testing</u>. Posting opinions is like 1/4 (or less)*of your responsibilities.






Yeah, a major hub isn't the right place to test server load


Uh, seriously? Yes it is. That is the prime spot to test the server load. Where else could they do it? (please don't suggest Sand Beach or some non-town place) They aren't testing medium capacity, they're testing maximum capacity. The only reason you think its stupid that they hold it there is that is might interfere with what you're doing.

[hellknight13]

no offense but ppl who are like they should stop masspawning in cities your chars are low lvls to start and u obviously* havent cbed before please if u must continue this ranting keep it off forums and laeave till ob because some of us need this to test

[thesjaakie]

You do know were supposed to post our opinions of the game and it's goings ons right?


don't come in here and be a jerk just because you don't like what others say.







Yes people do need to give feedback. But it's still in CB, meaning some things will be done simply for testing. And the guy above you just added to the discussion. And a fair add in my opinion.

Cause like was said, you are here to help TEST the game, not to play it. Playing it is a nice extra. If you didn't come here to test but to play, then I'd suggest waiting for at least Open Beta.





If they were doing these things in full release, then you could say that they're bad GMs or whatsoever, but not in CB, really. Even in full release these kind of things can be fun from time to time, in my opinion.

But if it's for stress testing, then the GMs can't really help but to do it in Roumen, since Elderine is pretty calm compared to Roumen. I don't know how strong the monsters they summoned are though.

[nellshini]

Choosing a town to mass spawn in isn't a bad idea. They need to test the server out before it goes live. Choosing both towns to mass spawn in isn't as good idea, since they still need to test. Choosing both towns every single day for hours at a time? Now you're just stopping the community from finding other bugs (which, btw, have gone unaddressed for weeks).

[bledcyan]

I can definatley see why they would want to run these events in town.


*It makes sense from a story-tellers side/perspective.


*But the lag it creates is ridiculous.


If these guys really want to do it, they need to improve their code (go to a lower level language on as many things as they can for one.. take it to dos mode for another {so you don't have the resources being lost to windows}), and/or get better servers that can not only handle the additional load.. but bear it at a level that it doesn't bog everyone down.


 


and no it is not our computers outspark.. I've been around enough portals where people are gathering for 40 man raids (so around 160-200 people in one place) in other games with higher levels of graphical detail without having nearly as much lag.

[BaronSkippy]

You do know were supposed to post our opinions of the game and it's goings ons right?


don't come in here and be a jerk just because you don't like what others say.







Yes people do need to give feedback. But it's still in CB, meaning some things will be done simply for testing. And the guy above you just added to the discussion. And a fair add in my opinion.

Cause like was said, you are here to help TEST the game, not to play it. Playing it is a nice extra. If you didn't come here to test but to play, then I'd suggest waiting for at least Open Beta.


 


If they were doing these things in full release, then you could say that they're bad GMs or whatsoever, but not in CB, really. Even in full release these kind of things can be fun from time to time, in my opinion.

But if it's for stress testing, then the GMs can't really help but to do it in Roumen, since Elderine is pretty calm compared to Roumen. I don't know how strong the monsters they summoned are though.



That's a big no duh that were here to test the game and bringing up our concerns and problems with thins is what were supposed to do, not argue with eachother over who's a whiner for what.


*Apparently you can't grasp the fact that in order to test something we must play it. and there are better ways to test server load then holding an event in town and from what I got from it the GM's were mostly screwing around so it probably wasn't a test at all.


Frankly I don't care what the reason was because they don't really need one. I was just voicing my concerns and opinions on it and people like you that bash others just because you don't agree is a huge problem that keeps others from posting their concerns and opinions because you have to talk trash.

[twilightcho]

well i've lost XP from that... and i know that others have as well... and i'm not saying this for just MYSELF.. YOU need to get over yourself.* also when a server needs to be tested for server load with player's and mobs. the test should not effect the stats of the players... also if you need to stress test*the server there are ways to do it. You can observe the server rates and stats when you give a live event, you can observe the*UL and DL rates during*the different times of the day, you can see the*times the most people are on the server, *those are the times that dev's mainly pay attention to what is going on with the server. Random GM spawning to just get rid of people that set up a shop in a town umm that's not testing server load.* Lastly if it was really done to "stress test" the server and to see how players and mobs will affect the server you don't throw in high lvl aggro monsters.. you throw in random low lvl monsters and remove the drops so you don't have to run the risk of effecting someone's stats such as XP loss due to death or death effects.* Someone like you who just likes to come and find a reason to bash on someone else wouldn't understand something like that. so if this post bother's you that much its called ignore it and move on.

[twilightcho]

well this is the thing... funny enough.. about 2 hours after i posted this.. one of the GM's decided to spawn a whole mess of starfish right outside of town... and then spawn 1st skeletons... the skeletons got wiped out.. so they spawned a few hundred slimes... now.. that seemed like a better idea..


1. No one could complain about lost exp or anything of that matter.


2. If a lvl 1 lets say died by a slime it didn't get respawned on top of it.


3. It did cause a slight bit of a lag problem.. but since slimes are only like lvl 1 or 2 they weren't really that powerful enough to kill off anyone unless they were under level 5.. and even then atleast they stood a chance.


Its not that i was having a problem with the mass spawning in general.. it was the mass spawning of such high level summons in a town that is the starting point and is filled with lowbies... and then having them spawn where if a player dies and gets redirected to with less then 100hp spawn tons of high level mobs at that spot too...


and if you want to look at it as in "your just looking at this as your own enjoyment" you are just looking for a reason to be a*prick and just annoy people... for one... Yes this is a closed beta. Yes obviously the Devs, admins, mods will be looking at these forums.* They will want feedback on what was done from the Tester's point of view... and this is feedback on what happens when you spawn high level monsters in towns at spots that player's respawn.. it causes lag on the player side and it causes complaints from the lower levels...


*all you guys that want to sit and basically downtalk anyone who is agreeing with this need to get your heads out of ur butts and stop acting like your a "professional beta tester" or a Game developer yourself.. because if you were you WOULDN'T BE HERE LOOKING TO BASH ON PEOPLE GIVING THEIR OPINIONS ON ACTIONS TAKEN IN THE GAME.


and btw the only people in the community that are "looking at this instead of focusing on*the other bugs" are only the people that either A found that this is something that needed to be brought up or make a comment about... i'm sure this one little post compared to all the others didn't make the dev's, GM's, Mod's, Admin's, or whoever drop everything to look at it...


 

[Keenan]

*@<font color="#efa800">twilightcho,</font><!--

-->monters atking the city is like to tightst thing man i never thought i would meet someone that didt like that wow.

[Gondie]

I have to say, It makes me laugh how people keep saying "I lost exp when I died from the mobs in town.."





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