Clerics' 'We dont like it when you..' thread [Archive]

RikoRain

04-16-2008, 07:32 PM

This is a thread where clerics can state out all the things they dont like the other players doing to them. By this I mean.. say you refuse to res someone. And then they war you.
I'm saying "dont like" in place of "hate" so that it doesnt seem so.. aggressive.

1 "We dont like it when you ask for a res, and dont give the coordinates"
2 "We dont like it when you ask for a res, and when we FINALLY get to you, you say "nvm" and move"
3 "We dont like it when you come up to us and spam us with "heal plz"."
4 "We dont like it when you come up to us and spam us with "buff plz"."
5 "We dont like it when you come up to us and spam us with party invites."
6 "We dont like it when you tell us to stay in the back and only heal, when the monsters hit for very little" (some of us like to fight too).
7 "We dont like it when, if we refuse you something, you curse at us for it"
8 "We dont like it when, if we refuse you something, you spam us out"
9 "We dont like it when, if we refuse you something, you decide to WAR us"

And finally, last one I can think of now:
10 "We dont like it when, after you get a mob and find out its too much for you, you bring it to us, and suddenly beg for a pt along with buff and heals"

(Ill be adding more posted later, and things peoepl have posted, work in progress:)
11 "We dont like it when we buff/heal/res and get no thanks whatsoever."
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20

And finally, last one I can think of now:
10 "We dont like it when, after you get a mob and find out its too much for you, you bring it to us, and suddenly beg for a pt along with buff and heals"

Fell free to add MANY more.

jordanvanzant916

04-16-2008, 07:43 PM

mhmmm i totally agree, especially the 6th one. I love to fight and idc if u say stand back, i dont have a hammer just for looks ;D

RikoRain

04-16-2008, 07:52 PM

mhmmm i totally agree, especially the 6th one. I love to fight and idc if u say stand back, i dont have a hammer just for looks ;D

EXACTLY.
We are CLERICS.
Not Priests.
CLERICS, we have a hammer/mace and shield for a reason >.<

"We dont like it when we buff/heal/res and get no thanks whatsoever." (It costs sp, ya know, and therefore we either have to use OUR time to shroom, or OUR money to make up the sp.. a little thanks is appreciated)

"We dont like it when you force us to do a smaller, less wanted task, in whiech we have an even less advantage in it than others" (bring 'runner' in Robo just because we can heal. WE CANT HEAL WHILE RUNNING! >.< A fighter is better since they have bigger def)

"We dont like it when you call us weak just because we have lower str and def than fighters"

EvenSmarterChild

04-16-2008, 08:08 PM

RikoRain

04-16-2008, 08:16 PM

Well I certainly don't like it when:
- Im duoing with someone in a place that is dangerous to me & the person finds a higher lvl cleric & ditches me (doesn't even walk me back >_<;;)
- Someone invites me to a party & I refuse & tell them that I am getting horrible lag. Then they say that its okay & I get into the party. I lag a lot & we all die. I get told off & cursed at. =__= I warned them
- OH and it's awesome when someone asks for a buff & I tell them I can't buff yet & they continue asking me (and sometimes even chase me O.O;; )

Lol I just thought of more:

"We hate it when, if you get ONE-HIT-PWND, you yell at us that we werent healing"

"We hate it when you party another cleric, AND THAT CLERIC DOESNT HEAL OR FIGHT" (Happened to me once, I needed another cleric to help me heal, but then she just leeched. I had to complain to get her to heal, and then she wouldnt even heal all the time.)

"We also hate it when, if we want to leave the pt, you scream, yell, bawl, and curse at us for it"

"We hate it when you command us as if we are slaves" (Honestly. Asking is nicer, and better. Commanding us as if we are slaves...ugh)

dimanoroji

04-16-2008, 08:20 PM

6 "We dont like it when you tell us to stay in the back and only heal, when the monsters hit for very little" (some of us like to fight too).

Ah, I'll be sure not to do that next time. >.<

Sorry to all the clerics if I told you that.

iLoveless

04-16-2008, 08:20 PM

Lmao @ 1

It's funny how I see shouts from people asking for Revive. Apparently you guys have 6th sense along with reviving abilities. :D That's talent right there.

RikoRain

04-16-2008, 08:24 PM

Lmao @ 1

It's funny how I see shouts from people asking for Revive. Apparently you guys have 6th sense along with reviving abilities. :D That's talent right there.

I know. As if saying "rev plz" or "res plz" somehow magically allows us to use super-sensing powers! WE ARE PHYSIC?! I didnt know that.. o.o;; *obvious sarcasm*

Seriously
I had this guy in GC, I was near him, but couldnt see him (I could hear his normal white talk), and he asked me for a res. I told him I couldnt find him, and to give coords. 1 minute comes, goes, he finally tells me B0 (I was in C1). When I FINALLY got to him, He says "nvm then" and teleports. I was almost done revving him too.. =_=

loadstar

04-16-2008, 08:32 PM

what a pity

somebody can tell me whats the mob

Takerial

04-16-2008, 08:33 PM

No see, clerics must have this super awesome tracking grid that shows them where all the dead bodies in the zone are located. It's like when it shows party members but with dead people.

So now they can spend allllll of their time reving people who are 20 levels too low to have a chance in the zone and will most likely just run off into a bunch of mobs again, probably train the cleric who reved them while they are in the midst of dying too.

But in contrast to you only posting cleric stuff.

I hate it when a cleric will come up to me and heal me or provide some unnessecary act to try and guilt me into partying with them. Hey I like to solo too.

I hate it when a cleric in a kq decides they want to be tank when there are only three clerics there. Hey it's ok if we ask but dang if we have a perfectly capable fighter who is in need of healing, like the rest of us will need from time to time.

But as for something that annoys me when people mistreat clerics.

I hate it when someone refuses to use their hp stones to the point they are dying as long as cleric is in the party.

RikoRain

04-16-2008, 08:41 PM

I hate it when someone refuses to use their hp stones to the point they are dying as long as cleric is in the party.
YES! T.T We cant heal everyone. At my lvl (46) I have Heal, regeneration, and rejuvinate. Heal is instant, regen is over time, and rejuv takes forever to cast. I, at most, can do HEAL, REGEN, HEAL, REJUV, REGEN, HEAL.

That means at any one point, three other people need healing, one of which only has regen, while one person is dandy. This doesn't include me, which I then pull aggro, and because I'm so focused on healing my pt-mates, usually either come close to death, or actually die.

D: You provide a good/bad point though.. sometimes I like to just heal the people I pass. For nothing. Just for the gratification of knowing Ive saved them a stone or pot. I DO hate the clerics that heal for a pt though.. happens to me alot in CPrison.

lenore_lurks

04-16-2008, 11:02 PM

OMG YES!! I love this thread!! XD

We hate it when you come up to us and say 'buff' and we do so, then say 'heal'... omg... how difficult is it to shroom? really?

We hate it when you throw every abuse in the book at us if we don't comply to your every wish and demand, such as healing after a buff... If we can buff you, we're not a 'noob', so quit calling us that >.<

We hate it if the tank pulls so many mobs that they cannot handle them all, and kills pretty much the whole party because I'm telling you now, it's impossible to heal everyone in such a situation. And while I'm on such a topic, you are not a 'mank' in any way what-so-ever if you pull than many mobs and cannot handle it - at least apply a few scrolls or SOMETHING, please... *headdesk*

We hate it when we want to buff you... but DAMMIT! WHY DO YOU KEEP MOVING AROUND?! I cannot click on you, so just stand there for at least a second, please.. okay thankyou... now you can go...

*okay, end rant for now*

Pungguk

04-16-2008, 11:07 PM

yeah! (to thread #1)
really, don't spam! clerics might block you and you will never get rev/heal/buff at all.
if a cleric won't buff you (maybe they are afk or just ignore you for spamming), leave and go ask from other clerics. ask properly and nicely btw.

and as far as fighting goes~ as long as they keep others safe, it is cool by me. i play cleric too. and i heal/rev a lot especially in KQ and fight at the same time whenever i had the chance.

*fun fact~ someone asked me to buff (Endure) him and i'm only lv30 xD (and still wears a lvl20 armor & shield at that time) rofl*
...but then again, maybe he was just being sarcastic -_- ...bleh! >:p

Pungguk

04-16-2008, 11:19 PM

sometimes I like to just heal the people I pass. For nothing.

:D i did that too! i just love it :) i think it's called -"drive by heal" or something. whenever i see someone beating up a monster all alone, i click on him and HEAL! :D
wish that i get buff skills very soon :'( so i can heal and BUFF people around the field :D

lordofthesick

04-16-2008, 11:58 PM

clerics are completely taken for granite, people fail to realize that without them almost every party wont work, even if u can heal yourself with stones and pots that cleric in your party is saving you money then, and if your tanking and the mob isnt hitting you for much let the cleric throw regen on you and join the fight enjoy extra dmg from that mace/hammer one day all the clerics gamewide should have a boycott all of you refuse to heal buff rez or pt with anyone and watch them beg :D

ixlei

04-17-2008, 12:13 AM

yes... there was this one WELL-KNOWN, High level'd fighter (whos name I will not mention) who said in shout that he hated clerics. And I said, 'what did you say about clerics?!' Then he said they are just a waste of experience and that he's ok without them. He said lots of other stuff too... I wanted to just ignore him really, but at the same time I wanted to kick his face. oops sorry... */violence* so....

"WE HATE IT WHEN YOU DISRESPECT OUR CLASS AND BRING US DOWN!"

phew...

Lordlymight

04-17-2008, 12:19 AM

What a great thread. Unfortunately I am pretty tolerant as a cleric, but the first ten pretty much nailed many of my aggravations. Also someone else mentioned my worst intolerance... gratitude. It may not cost me much, but its still something I can do and you can't, so show a little respect, yeah?

I will add that one thing I'm not too keen on is that male and female clerics start to look pretty similar at higher levels, so be wary of calling those nice ladies out there sir... doesn't go over well...

kalone

04-17-2008, 12:59 AM

CLERICS REV ME OMG I didn't get any exp from the kq cleric didn't rev me OMG omg cleric ALL YOUR FAULT omg OMG.

wickedpunk

04-17-2008, 01:15 AM

Lol yes i admit if there is a cleric i usualy don't use my stone and die... well the reason is i only get 54 damn fing hp stones and if use them all to heal myself and you wait till the last minute to heal me its a waste for both of us at the same time.... so CLERICS if you are unable to heal give a lil heads up... yeah mainly i'm tlaking about the cleric that plays right next to me in the room :P lol

I love you Kattmagic!!!

Seriously I rather die then use a stone in a party with a cleric. cus then i always have a free warp to town and can restone!

I would also like to remind everyone:
I deal more damage then most classes (compareing levels)
I kill faster (sometimes faster then fighter)
I have more aoe
I get the ranged mobs.

See so I am gunna steal argo, I am gunna have mobs on me... Oh wait I ALSO save the trailing cleric from being flanked so that adds to the mobs attacking me.

So not only is the fighter important but don't forget the mage!!!

I never spammed a cleric
I never cursed at a cleric (unless your Farashim lol <3 )
I love clerics they keep me alive and I don't waste my time killing to lose exp.

yourmojo

04-17-2008, 04:23 AM

Don't like it when tanks fight over boss monsters , especially ones who die in like two shots. Stop luring bosses away from the main tank, we can't heal you.

Pretzel

04-17-2008, 05:15 AM

Ya clerics are so damn slow killers, coz we are not meant to kill, basically cleric's job is keep everyone alive. But if u pt w/ archers w/ tons of Dexterity and he wanders away from his healer, it means death for him coz cleric's cant run fast enough, unless u'red scrolled up.

I dont mind reviving or buffing ppl, but the thing i hate is (are) people asking for heal after u give them buff!!!!! COME ON, why u got mushroom house for? And if u whisper and i didnt budge, it means im afk!!!

We can't heal ourselves while running, or reviving when mobs are chasing or hitting us .... so would be nice if u can kill mobs while im doing those. Get the hint?

<~~~~ i maybe a bad healer, but i sure did all my best!!!!!

MrSlashy

04-17-2008, 05:38 AM

I agree with this thread. Even though I'm not a cleric, I know how it feels to be abused just like that. It's sad that they do not realise that a cleric is the heart of the party. A cleric controls your life. A cleric is like a god in a party(sorta). Imagine you are AOE-ing, and you **** a cleric off, if they stop healing you it's game over for you. Yes, you may stone or stuffs and stuffs stuffs. But it's not worth the effort, right? A cleric saves you in many ways. And it's just not right to abuse them.

And also.. I heard someone in PvP saying that cleric sucks in PvP because they can heal. Well, everyone has their own advantages and disadvantages right? It's like, saying that fighters sucks because they can debuff and have lots of attack skills. And archers sucks because of their poison. And don't get me started on mages...

People who abuse clerics, think about it. Without clerics, the world of Fiesta will not be balanced. And in PvP, well, who knows. Maybe one of them will be strong enough to even kill you without heals and are nearly the same level as you. :) *cough*Elfenlied*cough*

Jandalyn

04-17-2008, 05:50 AM

RikoRain

04-17-2008, 05:55 AM

We hate it when we want to buff you... but DAMMIT! WHY DO YOU KEEP MOVING AROUND?! I cannot click on you, so just stand there for at least a second, please.. okay thankyou... now you can go...

Lol no joke. I hate the peopel who come "heal plz" and run in circles around me. STAY STILLLLL ARGHHHHHHHHHHH. Thats when I just dont do anythign to em and leave.
When I ASK for a buff, I very nicely stand still. I mean I am a STATUE.

I will add that one thing I'm not too keen on is that male and female clerics start to look pretty similar at higher levels, so be wary of calling those nice ladies out there sir... doesn't go over well...
Lol... I can imagine that.. I would ROFL..

Lol yes i admit if there is a cleric i usualy don't use my stone and die... well the reason is i only get 54 damn fing hp stones and if use them all to heal myself and you wait till the last minute to heal me its a waste for both of us at the same time.... so CLERICS if you are unable to heal give a lil heads up... yeah mainly i'm tlaking about the cleric that plays right next to me in the room :P lol

You have to remember: Heal uses over 100 sp. EACH TIME. At any given moment, depending on which high level cleric youre with, they can heal 600-800, probably more. Therefore, at 100 sp ea, it would be SMART to want to maximize this. Therefore, there no point in healing a fighter when hes only 200 HP down, when they can wai ta few more hits and get him when hes 600 hp down. It maximizes the healing, maximizes the sp, and therefore saves the CLERIC time.

KLeep in mine, most of the cleric abilities are 100sp ea. More like more (mines are 100 sp ea cus I use all my skill pts towards lowering the sp). So theyre more like 150 sp ea. I have about 1500 sp normally. Therefore, I can only do 10 things. After the 2 party buffs, Im down 200 sp at least. My own shild buff takes another 100 sp, and doing the poison-immune 5 times for all party members takes another 500 sp.

Thats 800/1500 sp used, right then and there.

Say for some reason each person wasnt at 100% health, thast 4-5 heals, thast another 400-500 AT THE LEAST.

Thats 1200-1300/1500. Our sp is spent, and it takes 2-3 stones or 2-3 pots to recharge that, or a LONG time in shrooming.

RikoRain

04-17-2008, 05:57 AM

One of the things I don't like is when your in a group and there is another healer besides yourself and they expect you to keep them healed so they can fight. Your trying to keep yourself and the other 3 alive. Its like excuse me but your a healer, you need to heal yourself.

The only flaw in this is..
When I PT with a large group, say, a KQ, and its me and one other healer among fighters.

I am SO FOCUSED on healing the party, that I stare a tthe party thing on the side, and dont look at all at my hp. I am constantly healing them, applying buffs using shortcuts - etc. I NEVER notice that I am being hit, until its too late. thsi is th epoint in having another cleric. Ill heal the other cleric without even remembering he can heal. But thast my job in tight situations: HEAL. Its the other clerics job to keep me healed, and my job to keep him healed.

Mutual respect, is all it is ^_^

Mekoides

04-17-2008, 06:22 AM

YES! T.T We cant heal everyone. At my lvl (46) I have Heal, regeneration, and rejuvinate. Heal is instant, regen is over time, and rejuv takes forever to cast. I, at most, can do HEAL, REGEN, HEAL, REJUV, REGEN, HEAL.

Just wait until you hit lvl 79. We have AOE heal and AOE rejuvenate, and let me tell you, it is sweet. I can tank AND heal my entire party at the same time :)

Mizuko85

04-17-2008, 06:28 AM

RikoRain

For some reason I like you <3:)

Angelxx

04-17-2008, 07:12 AM

I have to add that I hate it when I see mages use lifetap expecting clerics to heal them. Why would a cleric waste their sp so you can save on yours? And to make it worse, some use it mid battle. =_=

As a cleric I refuse to heal those who use lifetap.
As a mage I never use lifetap unless I'm about to shroom or if I'm out of sp and my cleric asks me to use lifetap instead of restoning.

And for heaven's sake people, do not go into kq without stones or pots and expect your party to wait for you to do your part in between shrooming or for the cleric to waste their pots/stones healing you so you can do your share.

jordanvanzant916

04-17-2008, 07:15 AM

Lythari

04-17-2008, 07:22 AM

Here are my pet peeves:

1. People spamming party invites while I'm obviously in the middle of something...namely THREE FRAKIN' MOBS FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE.

2. People who ask me to party over and over, but don't tell me what they are going to do or why they need me. I never accept random invites unless I know what we're going to be doing.

3. When there is just me and one other cleric in a KQ, and the other one insists on fighting leaving me to keep all the KQers alive.

4. People who keep pulling mobs while I'm trying to rest

5. People who get angry when I start fighting instead of spam healing, but don't make any effort to pull the mobs I am fighting off of me.

And lastly:

Clerics who simply become clerics so they can be fighters with a self heal and don't make any effort to help anyone else. You guys give the clerics who like helping others a bad name and rep.

Lordlymight

04-17-2008, 07:28 AM

I am SO FOCUSED on healing the party, that I stare a tthe party thing on the side, and dont look at all at my hp. I am constantly healing them, applying buffs using shortcuts - etc. I NEVER notice that I am being hit, until its too late. thsi is th epoint in having another cleric. Ill heal the other cleric without even remembering he can heal. But thast my job in tight situations: HEAL. Its the other clerics job to keep me healed, and my job to keep him healed.

I can't count the number of times I have died doing this. I just get way too focused on my charges and not at all on myself.

Rhianthalia

04-17-2008, 07:34 AM

Yah, and what I realy hate is when I'm the only cleric in the party and everyone in my party is tanking, and then they blame me for letting them die cause I couldn't heal fast enough

smitske

04-17-2008, 07:44 AM

We dont like it when you say we are heal slaves and the only thing we should do is heal, buff and rez.

Serric

04-17-2008, 08:23 AM

This issue has been raised and answered several times on the Clerics' thread already. Secondly, it looks like a hidden flame thread. My first instinct is to close it.

But, in the spirit of fairness, can someone advise me why this thread shouldn't be closed?

Angelxx

04-17-2008, 08:26 AM

Serric

04-17-2008, 08:30 AM

Well, as far as I can see (I may have missed it), no names were mentioned. Perhaps it can be taken as a standalone, instead of in conjunction with other threads?

I think most of us reply in the spirit of the thread as per the topic so far.

Hmmm....

You have a point.... and seeing as it hasn't wrupted into flames...

As long as there is no blacklisting (naming players/guilds) and no flames I guess the thrad will remain. if I receive a report of flaming our ousting, I may have to reconsider, however. =/

smitske

04-17-2008, 08:31 AM

you know I dont write names, unless in a server specific forum.

Angelxx

04-17-2008, 08:32 AM

Hopefully it doesn't. I think this is a good topic and hopefully more people will start treating clerics with more respect and vice versa.

Lordlymight

04-17-2008, 10:54 AM

It was my impression that the thread was posted all in good fun. So far, with a few minor exceptions, most of the posts have had an element of humor.

KateeHellen

04-17-2008, 10:54 AM

Every such threads will always balanced on the egde of knife...
From my fighter perspective sometimes i feel very bad when i read in "open chatbox" how many players treat clerics,i can only imagine what is going on at party chat in such sytuations>.
Like many of you say here<and many other threads regarding this issue> cleric are NOT buff/heal stations created only for "stone/pots saving" by other classes.
Cleric also like fighters and other classes need stones and pots to prevent loss of SP bar<witch for them is crucial and they are not neverending...>.
Second thing... if i party whit clerics<usually higher lvl as me:D> i never yell at them "Stop fighting and start to heal me...", by all Orcs from Uruga what give you rights to forbid them to be active<in all meaning of this word>part of your team?
Its true that cleric dont have same damage strengh as fighter but trust me even they are fantastic "fighters":D.
I have seen many times when fighters pull way too many mobs do not considering odds occured in such sytuation.
Remember that heal can redirect aggro so dont be suprise when in battle chaos suddelny some mobs can turn against clerics...
And revive issue... people if you want revive really turn on map, look on coordinates and tell them in open chat!!!< clerics dont have "Death finder GPS sytem">

Number6

04-17-2008, 11:04 AM

so i was playing on my noob character which happens to be a cleric and this person in slime kw was following me shouting HEAL ME. i told them i was healing my party cus all 3 were killing and losing hp fast so i was spam healing them. i asked person to wait they post HEAL ME NOW. so i said no im sorry not going to help you and they called me a noob :D im like cute w/e. and as for the people who shout REV and dont state location it drives me MENTAL its like im sorry but I DO NOT HAVE A GPS SYSTEM.

IntoYourSkin

04-17-2008, 01:18 PM

I totally agree with the sentences.^^ Especially when people need a rez, they don't even say where they are. Or when they say "rez please, rez please here!" and that like ninetynine times. Just die then. I'm also fighting, clerics are not always the 'heroes'.. ^^ but every class has their charms.

Raykimia

04-17-2008, 01:30 PM

<---not a cleric.

But I agree none the less. It must really suck to be bombarded with 'heal me' or 'buff plz' everyday.

And number two sounds familiar...like it happened just yesterday in GC. D;

Lostchild346

04-17-2008, 01:41 PM

As a cleric i hate it when The person invites another cleric to the party. 2 clerics = 1 lazy tank or 1 lazy cleric

GuanoSnoop

04-17-2008, 01:50 PM

Sometimes, when I simply don't feel like partying, I'll turn invites off. But, there's always that one player that hangs around spamming "pt plz", even after I say I don't want to party. Why is it so hard for people to realize that no means "no", not "maybe, keep spamming until I change my mind"...

Cobre

04-17-2008, 02:20 PM

It really grinds my gears (sorry, had to use it XD) when, if, just for once, I'd like to solo, people I don't even know, have never seen before, and will most likely never see me again, follow me around like it's some Fiesta Crusade or something, demanding pretty much everything from money to 'plvling'.

Yes, I'm a cleric, wearing a tux, but for the love of whatever Diety we worship in Fiesta, leave me alone! >.<

Lythari

04-17-2008, 05:42 PM

Himntor

04-17-2008, 06:47 PM

Well I certainly don't like it when:
- Im duoing with someone in a place that is dangerous to me & the person finds a higher lvl cleric & ditches me (doesn't even walk me back >_<;;)
- Someone invites me to a party & I refuse & tell them that I am getting horrible lag. Then they say that its okay & I get into the party. I lag a lot & we all die. I get told off & cursed at. =__= I warned them
- OH and it's awesome when someone asks for a buff & I tell them I can't buff yet & they continue asking me (and sometimes even chase me O.O;; )

^^ Really? wow the spam at u asking 4 a buff thts stupid especially when u "CANT" buff lol.
Anyway... my friend loves 2 heal ppl cuz when he did ppl invited him 2 friend list :D (he became a Celeb.)
And if u clerics dont want 2 Rev thts stupid...THEN WTC IS REVIVE THAR FOR NOTHING!?! geez rev is thar for a reason. if u cant seem 2 know tht then oh well tht is what it is for

(I'm a Fighter)
lvl +3.4 DD :D

adryden1313

04-17-2008, 06:57 PM

okay i HAVE to respond to the "REV" in slime kq comment...lol
unless you are ubber nub, just about EVERYONE knows you dont get rev until lvl 20 lmao im sorry but that literally made me LOL.

rbd1313

04-17-2008, 07:22 PM

Sometimes, when I simply don't feel like partying, I'll turn invites off....

First can you really do that turn them off???? Where where tell me plzzzzz.

clerics are completely taken for granite, people fail to realize that without them almost every party wont work, even if u can heal yourself with stones and pots that cleric in your party is saving you money then, and if your tanking and the mob isnt hitting you for much let the cleric throw regen on you and join the fight enjoy extra dmg from that mace/hammer one day all the clerics gamewide should have a boycott all of you refuse to heal buff rez or pt with anyone and watch them beg :D

Second TY lordofthesick I've been thinking of stageing a in game strike for all clerics, and wondered if anyone felt the same way. Not just for the mistreatment (I have notice less at a higher lvl or maybe i've earn their respect???) but for new skills or upgrade to skills.

I don't like it when I'm 67 with a heal of 57 and can't keep up with the mobs damage.

I don't like it when my rejuv or prty heal takes to long to cast and someone dies.

I don't like it when I have a skill that says bleed/trip and it neither stuns or causes mob to bleed..

I don't like it when in pvp I can't kill another cleric or fighter 15 lvls or less below me with my +9 weapon.

I'm not asking for the damage of a mage or the def of a tank. I prefer to keep people alive then either one of those spots however I like to hold my own in pvp or soloing. Also we alllllllll benifit from higher heals faster heals

The mage earlier in this thread said he will not use a stone with a cleric on the team why should he???? Well he shouldn't have to if we had what we need. Reality is with cool down maxed if I just got done useing heal on tank and you do pull that argo of 20+ mobs off of the tank then YOUR DEAD before I can get rejuv or party heal off or cool down is over on heal so SRRY but for now use a stone.........

Not to take away from this thread because its a great one but I think I shall start a cleric on strike thread and post a time and date for all clerics to log out, go into mushies and afk, for a couple hours or all clerics meet for a dance party in rumen no heals no buff fair is fair if you agree with me on skills need or agree with lord about mistreatment hopefully you reply kindly to the thread and strike strike strike

hesqua

04-17-2008, 08:00 PM

-Kinda skipped the thread, sry if anyone has said this already-

We dont like it when:

You ask "BUFF PLZ", followed by "HEAL PLZ"

Go sit in ur shroom!

Angelxx

04-17-2008, 09:10 PM

^^ Really? wow the spam at u asking 4 a buff thts stupid especially when u "CANT" buff lol.
Anyway... my friend loves 2 heal ppl cuz when he did ppl invited him 2 friend list :D (he became a Celeb.)
And if u clerics dont want 2 Rev thts stupid...THEN WTC IS REVIVE THAR FOR NOTHING!?! geez rev is thar for a reason. if u cant seem 2 know tht then oh well tht is what it is for

(I'm a Fighter)
lvl +3.4 DD :D

I'm sure you go around tanking and stunning for other people all day long because you can. After all stun is there for something right? :rolleyes:

Khayman71

04-17-2008, 09:13 PM

First can you really do that turn them off???? Where where tell me plzzzzz.

Press Esc and choose Game options. There's a "Party Invites" bit there you can turn on and off.

I don't mind when another cleric is invited to the party, so long as it's a big party and that Cleric will help me heal. If they just join to heal themselves and waft away with their hammer then I don't want them though.

I think everyone else has covered my other peeves. Good thread :)

Lordlymight

04-17-2008, 09:15 PM

I'm sure you go around tanking and stunning for other people all day long because you can. After all stun is there for something right? :rolleyes:

I found the post kind of funny myself. Mostly because no one said they didn't want to revive, just that they didn't like being spammed to revive. Guess we all have our own definitions, eh? hehe

RikoRain

04-18-2008, 05:25 AM

Yep. I dont like being SPAMMED to revive.

If I see a dead person, yeah, Ill give a quick milisecond thought about it before I hit revive, and while its casting, Ill second thought it.

For example, if the person thats dead looks to me like one that shouldnt be there (a lv 15 mage in GC), I WILL NOT revive them. Usually this is where I get spammed. I did this to one lv 20 cleric in GC. He died deep in there trying to get to bigger mobs, and I refused to rev him. He proceeded to spam my whisper box that he was "lv 26, just had the lv 20 shirt". -_- Duh.

If people bug me for it, I downright refuse :D Hahaha
But if people ask nicely or not at all, I always do it without thought :D

Esoterra

04-18-2008, 05:59 AM

I know this is a little bit off topic, but it still fits into the whole "don't like" topic. This one is for fighters.

"We don't like it when you ask us for a buff. Or a rez."

I basically stopped going into CP because I get asked this countless times. I once had a level 40 something cleric come up and ask "buff plz" to me. I told her I'm a fighter, I can't buff. So she runs off, gets killed by a Des Harkan, and asks me "rez plz." -.-

KateeHellen

04-18-2008, 06:21 AM

Himntor

04-19-2008, 05:38 PM

I'm sure you go around tanking and stunning for other people all day long because you can. After all stun is there for something right? :rolleyes:

Uhh well yeah stun is thar 4 a reason...@ stop monsters and whatever from killing u gives ya a chance 2 kill it wit out getting hurt at all (wich is awesome did it a few times myself ^^)but so Stun has a other meaning, as if so u were in a GW or PvP som1 is chasing u and u dont want 2 fight, then
STUN AND RUN! (doesnt work well on high lvls) so thts som reasons

RikoRain

04-19-2008, 09:43 PM

Lets stay on topic though :D Its "clerics dont like".. lol
Because I am a cleric and see noobish things all the time.

"We dont like it when you spy us while on your hobby, and B-line it to us, to sit there and beg "buff plz" while we are clearly AFK or busy"

"We dont like it when we get a small mob (even by accident) and while were surviving, you come up to us, KS, then yell at us to heal you while you "SAVE US!! OMG WE NEED SAVING!!"."

"We dont like it when you ask for a pt for.. say, GGK, then as soon as we PT, you begin claiming the drops. Before theyve even dropped."

"We dont like it when theres 1 fighter, 1 mage, 1 archer, and 2 clerics in a pt, and the archer claims all archer drops, the fighter all fighter drops, te mage all mage drops.. yet we are left hanging in the dust."

"We dont like it when you ask for a high lvl cleric to pt with, then once you see were below lv 47, dump us like yesterdays trash."

"We dont like it when you lag, causing us to work overtime, and yet hwen we lag you curse at us for not working hard enough."

Still more to come. I find these daily x_X

"We dont like it when there are two fighters, one high and one low, and the high goes out to mob, while the lower one tags along screaming "HEAL ME"." The higher fighter needs healing, not you -_-

smitske

04-19-2008, 11:39 PM

we dont like getting kicked of friends list cause we lvl to slow, and arent a grindaholic like you.

LegSpinSteve

04-20-2008, 02:17 AM

However, us clerics can take revenge...

I was questing in MT the other day and this low-level mage (looked about 15-20 judging by his gear) kept trying to KS me despite me asking him to stop... did this to me three times. He then pulled one of the critters I was fighting, one hit and down he went and started screaming for a res... no chance pal!

I had a fighter do this as well, i was fighting, he used snare to draw my target and accused me of being a KS'er... so I let him get on with it and watched him drop and then wondered why I wouldn't res. So I told him straight that he was the KS'er and went away.

The moral - if you hack a cleric off they won't help you. And yes I blocked them both.

LeeDiamonds

04-20-2008, 09:36 AM

Number 6 takes the cake, You forget about clerics between 30-46 when people ask for a buff and u tell them u cant yet and they argue u into a coma.

RikoRain

05-06-2008, 06:37 AM

"We dont like it when we just wanna have fun, and you follow us begging for buffs"
"We dont like it when you say we are 'monster hogs' just because we can take 5 at a time and you CANT"
"We dont like it when, in a bind, and you die, your curse us out for not healing you in time"
"We dont like it when you get mad at us for reviving other clerics FIRST" (HELLO!! Rev a cleric and the cleric comes back able to.. oh I dont know,.. REVIVE!?!? It sa two for one! Only thing you lose is about 5 seconds of cast time and 5 seconds of idle time.)

"We dont like it when, if we die in a KQ, you leave us be because.. omg.. if we cant HEAL ourselves (even though were focusing on the pt so much), then we must not be very good, and you take it upon yourself to kick us out of the KQ via causing us to die"

"We dont like it when you think we are GODS" (Yes, we can heal, buff, invincible.. but we can DIE too ya know?!?!)

Angelxx

05-06-2008, 06:41 AM

Uhh well yeah stun is thar 4 a reason...@ stop monsters and whatever from killing u gives ya a chance 2 kill it wit out getting hurt at all (wich is awesome did it a few times myself ^^)but so Stun has a other meaning, as if so u were in a GW or PvP som1 is chasing u and u dont want 2 fight, then
STUN AND RUN! (doesnt work well on high lvls) so thts som reasons

=_=

I don't think you quite got the meaning of my post. :(

nemmie

05-06-2008, 08:51 AM

we dont like when an aoe party with no cleric see you solo so decides to aoe beside you and spams you with party invites and leaves you with nothing to fight.... people if im solo an able to kill what im fighting i dont want a party.

smitske

05-06-2008, 09:22 AM

we dont like it that we are seen as heal and buff slaves only ><

TheSilentOne

05-06-2008, 09:31 AM

clerics, u are fail because u'd rather make a stupid face like this " ^.^" to a friend in whisper then heal when in an aoe, failed class

DarkAngelTsubasa

05-06-2008, 09:32 AM

I agree with point 6.
Btw, hammers are for HAMMERING mobs and maces are for WHACKING monsters.
Why cant we fight? >_<
If we are not to be fighting, then what are hammers n maces for? Decoration?

We dont like it when our pm box are getting spammed with alot of pm's with buff plz n heal plz.

We dont like it when we are still being pestered by requests for buffs when we hav emphasized that our level is not yet there for buffing. *applies to clerics who are lvl 46 and below*

slayyerr

05-06-2008, 09:35 AM

"We dont like it when, the fighter puts the allocation on free and not sequential.

smitske

05-06-2008, 09:40 AM

clerics, u are fail because u'd rather make a stupid face like this " ^.^" to a friend in whisper then heal when in an aoe, failed class

k then, we dont like it that fighters blaim us for not keeping everyone alive while they cant hold all mobs on them.

DarkAngelTsubasa

05-06-2008, 09:40 AM

Another one, we hate being ordered around and being commanded what to do.

And, we hate it when we are being yelled at for heals when our lives are in danger already.

Especially in KQs... the tank fails to pull the mob away from the cleric, and have another mob on himself/herself and demanded the cleric for heals, when the poor cleric is trying his/her best to keep alive n heal the tank at the same time >_<

smitske

05-06-2008, 09:42 AM

Another one, we hate being ordered around and being commanded what to do.

true to that

Angelxx

05-06-2008, 10:40 AM

clerics, u are fail because u'd rather make a stupid face like this " ^.^" to a friend in whisper then heal when in an aoe, failed class

Ooo....a psychic fighter.

Need a psychic antenna check mate. Your cleric was making the face =( cos their fighter phailed. :p

Kaiza

05-06-2008, 01:35 PM

Lmao, I do what I want to only. If I solo, then I solo, if I pt then I pt [But do my best for sure].

This is a game to have fun and not be a slave for others. We just need to respect them.

Chewy

05-06-2008, 01:49 PM

lol wow, you know i do have to agree though with this thread, ppl tell us to do things and half the time we arent given coords, or we are busy atm and can buff or w/e in about 2 more secs, but some are very impatient haha.

clerics, u are fail because u'd rather make a stupid face like this " ^.^" to a friend in whisper then heal when in an aoe, failed class

lol well its too bad they have friends isnt it (sarcasm). But yea, fighters seem to find it very easy to blame the cleric when they clearly overpull. If they cant quickly make a "stupid" face like that in between heals without you dying, then there is a problem there, and its not with them. Think about what you do yourself before you label us as a "failed class" k? thx

Kaiza

05-06-2008, 01:55 PM

If others act stupid, why PT with them? Just quit PT and search for nicer. I also just PT with friends or people I know and never random.

Chewy

05-06-2008, 02:02 PM

If others act stupid, why PT with them? Just quit PT and search for nicer. I also just PT with friends or people I know and never random.

Exactly, and thats what i do too lol, its just too bad that there has to be a thread like this, and to have it actually be growing with complaints x.x.

TestSubject

05-06-2008, 03:01 PM

Lordlymight

05-12-2008, 06:59 AM

I was in CP and someone asked for a revive without coordinates. I and another cleric replied "oh yeah, we'll just search the map for you." Then, about 5 minutes later, someone else asked for a revive. Again without coordinates.

I don't really have many problems with heal slavery or buff requests, but that just doesn't make sense. They must know we need some way to find them...

What kills me about the coordinate thing...

In Rumen (and surrounding environs), sure, who can expect them to know better
In Sand Hill/Elderine areas, reminding them once in awhile isn't too big a thing, but come on...

In Uruga, you should know better

TheCentrix

05-12-2008, 06:59 AM

I simply ignore "buff plz", "buff plsssssssss" and so on >_>

Kaiza

05-12-2008, 07:08 AM

I simply ignore "buff plz", "buff plsssssssss" and so on >_>

I do same. Funny thing is they do even at lvl 7x also haha. Also in KQ. >_>

TheCentrix

05-12-2008, 07:09 AM

Yeah I dont like it. saying the word "plz" (isnt even a word, but ok...) doesnt make it a question. its just plain rude in my opinion.

Voxana

05-12-2008, 07:11 AM

I simply ignore "buff plz", "buff plsssssssss" and so on >_>

Me too, that is sooo annoying!

(Brings out the "Block" shield and "Banhammer")

*Uses "Bash" Skill (WHA WHA WHAAAAAM!!!)* >.>

lenore_lurks

05-12-2008, 07:21 AM

Voxana

05-12-2008, 09:41 AM

Barely anyone says 'please' anymore. They may type out an entire sentence asking kindly for a buff, and then they end it with 'plz' or 'pls'. Ugh. I'm starting to accept that it has become a part of regular text-talk, just as 'lol' has infiltrated every aspect of online life.

But is still ticks me off when OTHER CLERICS come up saying 'buff plz'... >.<

I rather have entire sentence than just a short sentence, here are examples of sentences in which I have responded and approved:

1. Hey Voxana, may I have an Endure please?
2. Can someone please bless me with an Endure?
3. Hi Voxana, may I have a royal T3 Endure from ya please? ^^
4. Vox, I'm low on HP/SP, will you please add more endurance for me, please?
5. Please Vox, bless me with your kindness! ^^
6. Hey Vox, I'm about to go to "_________" Kingdom Quest, may I ask if you can give me an Endure please?
7. Hi Voxana, I'm about to do a level up quest so I am asking you "not begging" if you can give me your blessing pretty please?

You know, nice sentences like that with "please" in it ^^

Short sentences & non-sensible sentences in which I don't respond:

1. buff pls
2. buff plz
3. buff
4. buffs me plsssss
5. buff me
6. buff me plox (seriously, is that even a word?)
7. Can you buff?
8. pls buff

What is a buff??!? Honestly, I wish some people consider saying full sentences for a change, otherwise I think people who were saying short sentences need some more "English" classes started. I'm not putting anyone down or anything of that sort, but if you are asking for a "buff", please ask nicely or copy and paste sentences above the bad ones.

KTHXBAI!! ^^

Cherushi

05-12-2008, 10:59 AM

Hmm, I'm rather fortunate because I don't get easily annoyed at the spams o.o of buff plz or whatever. It's not a big deal for me ^^ and as for other bad treatments, I rarely got those type of behavior because I prefer to party people I know and have met before.

I don't like it when I can't catch up with the tank (fighter/mage or whoever) while he lures mob and I end up healing them late because I got no speed scroll. LMAO.

I don't like it when someone dies in party. I just don't. lol.

I don't like it either that our L57 heal is just isn't enough to heal others especially in abyss where there's lots of mobs and mock cant keep the mobs off other members.

I know that it's great that other people watch their HP and have pots and stones and actually use them even when there's a cleric, but I just dont like it either :D Haha.. I'm weird, I just feel a bit failed when I noticed they're using so much stones and pots ;x

I don't like it when I fail to notice other people asking for buff D: because I'm talking or busy.

I don't like it when my party is so boring that no one jokes or talks once in a while :D

(never happened really but...) I will not like it if they ever they ask you to just heal and not TALK because they will end up with a sleepy cleric and then it's going to be "I see dead people.." mode. :D (unless im talking more than I heal and the person/party keeps dying)

Now on to other people's treatment of clerics:

I find it funny when people waste time asking, "Is there anyone here can revive?" XD Instead of asking for a revive straight away and give their coordinates.

I don't like when they ask me for plevel :[ because cleric pleveling takes such a long time it sucks coz it makes me realize how poor our damage is.

I don't like it when the tank is too proud to admit he pulled so much mobs more than the party can handle.

clerics, u are fail because u'd rather make a stupid face like this " ^.^" to a friend in whisper then heal when in an aoe, failed class

ouch! D: I make that face to a friend in whisper o.o am i the one you're talking about? LOL! jk. =D hahaha.... talking is fine >:[ just not in the middle of a pull or while the mobs are getting killed and members getting damage O.o!

We hate it when we want to buff you... but DAMMIT! WHY DO YOU KEEP MOVING AROUND?! I cannot click on you, so just stand there for at least a second, please.. okay thankyou... now you can go...

So true... I'm like (er... getting dizzy....) and wait there till he stops moving. and I go buff them.

when someone asks me for buff D: I'm tempted to give them all other buffs besides endure lol.. but I never do it hahaha xD

smitske

05-12-2008, 11:02 AM

this is toward sother clerics, we do,t like it if there are only 2 of us that 1 doesnt help healing/buffing and so on but thinks he's a fighter><

Voxana

05-12-2008, 11:09 AM

Hi Chinsky! ^^

*waves*

Cherushi

05-12-2008, 01:03 PM

*waves* XD lol voxana

Tamlinari

05-12-2008, 01:33 PM

I mostly solo because I hate being treated like HP pots.

I hate partying with anyone who rests when they run low on SP but won't let me do the same.

I hate when someone pulls more mobs than they can manage just to show off and then blames me because I can't heal them fast enough and OMG, they may have to use a HP stone or something.

I hate other players that treat Clerics like a pet that they drag around on a leash.

I am pretty much a solo Cleric but my favorite characters to party with are Archers and other Clerics.
Fighters and Mages that take the lead are too high maintenance.

Serric

05-12-2008, 01:36 PM

buff plox!

cn i get heals?

res plz!

I love this thread..... :D

Voxana

05-12-2008, 01:40 PM

buff plox!

cn i get heals?

res plz!

I love this thread..... :D

oh boy, you're not one of them, are you?

*Hides in corner* >.>

XD

Serric

05-12-2008, 01:57 PM

oh boy, you're not one of them, are you?

*Hides in corner* >.>

XD

LOL - not quite.

I can see it now... Fighter is hacking away at a Gnoll, having troubles, along comes a cleric.

Fighter: "Pardon me, would you mind terribly if I were to ask you for a heal? It seems this beast has taken a great fancy to my head and wishes to add it to its personal collecti --"

Gnoll: "Ha, ha, ha! //MUNCH//"

Fighter: "Well, this was most unfortunate. Ah well, would you be so kind now as to resurrect me?"

Cleric: "I...er... ah..."

Gnoll: "ooo... what a pretty lil head."

Cleric: o.0''

Cleric runs, chased closely by Gnoll.

Fighter: "Bollocks"

:D

Voxana

05-12-2008, 01:59 PM

that sounds dangerous. X.x

Sunaryuu

05-12-2008, 04:02 PM

The thing about the Gnoll actually made me LOL.
Now people are staring at me.
I guess laughing is outlawed in the library here. >.>
Anyways I guess I might be a little odd, but I don't mind it when people say "plz" or "pls".
I mean as long as the aren't demanding a heal or buff... but then again I guess I'm just a bit odd. >.>
As for being told to stay back and heal I guess I'm luck I've never been in a party like that.
As for things I don't like I guess it would be people that ask for a heal and buff then don't thank me or.... people that demand a heal or buff.... I'm sure there are other things but I can't think of them....

RikoRain

05-12-2008, 10:48 PM

Like I said, for me, it isnt so much if they say "plz" "plz" or "please" but the WAY they spell it.

Im lazy too. I dont wanna type out PLEASE when I can just type plz. I dont type out RESURRECT or REVIVE when i can type RES/REV.
Ill admit, Ill say "There - revved ya" instead of "There, Ive revived you"

~.~ Today I heard 3 ppl in a row ask for buffs in Elderine
There fore I said "Buffing at the OX Field Entrance!!!" and began a 30 minute buffing spree.
The entire time, some person kept shouting "buf plz", so much so that she annoyed OTHER people, who began yelling at her to come to me.
Worst yet, Cherished happened to run into the noob.
The noob had a buff already.
And was still asking for a buff.

Poisoned77

05-13-2008, 12:04 AM