Fighter [Build- and Job]

[bloodkanevamp]

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Hello i'm curious about the ´Fighter´ and would like to ask a few question, wich mabye could be answere, so i hope?





<u>1</u>; Tank / DD (Damage Dealer)

<u>2</u>; Build (STR END SPR INT)

<u>3</u>; Empower (What to Empower and why)


At the current momment i have not been able to find anny´topics´my self with a decent ammount of information about the Fighter, mabye it's just me... So i'de like your help here...




I bid you good day, and hope you'll answer my post





-Regards Kane

[NaiPinG]

Well seriously if u wanna be a tank just add end

If u want some extra dmg go str

or u can go on a 1:1 ratio on str and end

no one add int for warrior u wont need it XP


STR = +1.2dmg

END = +.1%block(1~50)/.05%block(51+), +.5def, +5hp.

DEX = +.2%evade(1~50)/.1%evade(51+), +.3%aim(1~33)/.2%aim(34~67)/.1%aim(68+)

INT = +1.2Mdmg

SPR = +.2%crit(1~25)/.1%crit(26+), +.5Mdef, +5sp




If the max level is 100, then this is how a PURE build would look like.




STR = +138dmg

END = +8.25%block, +57.5def, +575hp

DEX = +16.5%evade, +21.2%aim

INT = +138Mdmg

SPR = +14%crit, +57.5Mdef, +575sp


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[bloodkanevamp]

Thanks... I've heard some talk about DEX for fighters also. is this a Option at all or just plain stupid ?

[Alastor1996]

Fighters are mainly tank, so I would say add END the most. If you want some attack power, then get a 2h sword or axe at lv20.

[NaiPinG]

Well everyone have different build but wat the point of a dex warrior O_o? + evade + aim


i played a few warrior i even wrote down there stats boost every lvl till 20 lol warrior has a +2 or + 1 dex boost every lvl sometime 3 You wouldnt miss much if the monster name in yellow or below haha .


Well for my experience pure end use 2 handed weapon and pure str 1 hand + shield i prefer full str + 1 hand + shield

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2 handed sword is slower but higher dmg . 1 handed sword is faster but lower dmg but the def make up for it .
2handed axe even slower but awesome dmg . But the 1handed sword make up the dmg with speed and additional def .
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Conclusion


Add End and go with shield + 1handed sword

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People will love u in KQ
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Seldom die High HP High Def
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Add End go 2 handed

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Well high hp but lower def compare to shield
Attack a bit slower but higher dmg
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Or just add str and go with Shield + 1 handed

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Higher dmg compare to end build but lower hp and def but get a Dmg boost every 5+
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Add str and 2 handed

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Low hp, low def, high dmg but slower
Not able to see ur fruit of Str adding till later lvl
Def sux big time &amp;lt;= &lt;u&gt;(my 1st character used it and i was so poor due to buying hp and sp stones lol)&lt;/u&gt;
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last piece of experience


i tried 3 weapon


1h sword best speed


2h sword speed is ok just the def sux big time -.-


2h axe really is slow compare to 1h sword -.-


even the dmg is high 1h sword make it up with speed


unless u tell me u can hit critical with ur axe all the time than is more worth it


Just my experience after playing fighter for 4 times lol


i just love them


But different ppl have different ideal fighter in mind just make a few mistakes to find ur i did with mine lol p.s is a beta u gonna get wipe so is better to make a mistake now than in the actual open phase


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pure str 1 handed is my favorite&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/font&gt;

[bloodkanevamp]

Thanks for the info...





yeah i know i have 3 Fighters going on now.


lvl10

lv15

lvl20


But i wanetd to basic info about them and i sure got it, i thank you for this...


I love Melee Jobs:) in all games just sad this game doesnt have a Melee DD (Rogue Thgu Assassin Monk) annything like that :)

[bloodkanevamp]

Would any of my FIGHTER talents get stronger by adding to any Stats ?

[weavers]

i have a lvl 22 warrior and i'm curently testing 1h and 2h axe, so keep that in mind

i've put +22str and +5 end. from my experince +str doesn't add alot of damage. i mean its only +138dam end game, considering you'll be hitting for what, proabably 500-1000points of damage a swing. in compairson you could go full end and have that extra 575hit points.

this would make a difference if thier will be pvp. also with pvp its spike damage, ie crits, that kill people. which i would like to try a 1h end/sprit build(and use 2h for pvp and high lvl mobs)

i've found leveling that i use alot of hp pots. and with 2h weapons they use a TON of spell point. my 1h slice and dice cost 13points whereas my 2h power hit uses 36 points. with 2h my power bar drops fast as does my hp. so i end up using alot of pots. honestly 1h or 2h sololing in a pain and means lot of money for pots, even tho i try to make i need to spend alot of time farming so i can then level.

if you want big hits go full str and 2h axe. at lvl 20 i loved getting 450crits, but the damage varence is really high. but swing speed isn't so noticeable.
if you want to be a tank go str/end with 1h

for level up go full str from lvl 1-15.(it will help you level faster) for skill points slash and dash +5(unless you plan to do 2h then save umm). also +duration on stun(+5=8sec stun of &lt;3) . after lvl 15 dump points into end.


**like i said i would like to try a 2:1 end and sprit build. i belive you get more dps with crits every 5 blows than 100dam each hit. also i'd block more, be able to spam spells and more magic defense, i'd image their will be alot of mages for pvp since they have the max dps in this game.

[NaiPinG]

well i tried a spr build b4 1st of all ur hp and sp stone will be balanced ^^ since other build have about 2x hp stone compare to sp stone. 2ndly fighting mage book show some different , you have a big sp pool. But some advice from other player u wont see the critical boost effect till lvl 30 o_O

[NaiPinG]

Would any of my FIGHTER talents get stronger by adding to any Stats ?


Add End boost ur hp and def to the max ^^

We have the thickest armour in game and the highest hp if u call that a talents u should add end haha

[bloodkanevamp]

Hehe yeah you could cal that a talent hehe :) very good info :) think i might pick Fighter over mage afterall..





Just sad there isnt a Melee based class just FOR damage no tank no other just Damage :) but ohh well... Tank classes have lways been like this Tank or do nothink lol (end game)

[bledcyan]

str is supposidly not +1.2 dmg, but I could see how that might work out if the &amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; you get every 5 points is only +1 dmg.

[NaiPinG]

Well i'm try a 1:1 str : spr build see how it goes /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif


Pure Str will have +30 dmg by lvl 20 due to the fact we added 25 pts lol


by lvl 40 will have +54 .......


So i will try to improve my dmg and critical at the same time lol

[NaiPinG]

And btw my pure str can tank mara with a scroll and bluff lol so is still ok =P

[NaiPinG]

Pure end or Pure Str warrior all face a similar problem ard lvl 23 /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif


The stupid mage book hit use hard is range and it magical can hit ard a -80 =.= even with a mage bless and scroll it does'nt help much /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-yell.gif


Can the M.Def of warrior armour be raise for just a little bit ???

[NaiPinG]

comment on my 1 str 1 spr build /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif

1st of all noting special dmg + got not much effect -.- my str is a +6 at lvl 10 but my sp got a 25boost 1% critical rate and a 3 mdef O_o


but i thing i just dont get it the 1st spr + got me a 1 mdef but i need to add to 3 to make it to 2mdef -.-


2 end 1 spr build


well ur hp increment gonna be twice ur sp 2:1 ration ur critical and block rate will be the same so is ur def and mdef increment well a good build for kq and hunting magical attack mob i should say


Better than a Pure end build for its extra sp critical boost and mdef ^^ if there got be alot of magical mob tanking this build will be needed or cleric gonna take over our job =X a magical hit from a mage book hit my pure str mob a 80++ it sux -.- even with bluff and scroll it still hit harder than melee mob


and like wat weavers (&quot;/user/71122&quot;) said it only at 138 dmg increment -.- noting much better bet in KQ is higher def and critical rate =P*


how i see it


Pure str vs 2end 1 spr


our attack is weaker but we have a higher def and critical rate


Pure end vs 2end 1spr


most likely gonna depend on the gear and critical rate


2end 1spr vs other class


most likely archer and mage gonna play kite with us =/


i seem from the china web archer gonna get the vine trap mara archer are using now and a critical boost spell which work like cleric bluff more member more % they gonna be a must have in guild war =.= and avoid spell -.- o man and a spell gonna increase their killing speed -.- imagine a machine gun attack O_o and a arrow that decrease ur walking speed -.-


Mage gonna get a mana shield and a dispell spell ur bluff gonna be all gone O_o and a chain casting =_=


cleric gonna get alot of support spell and a spell that heal ur party hp and sp when u die o_O


Warrior just gonna get heavy dmg skill a 8 sec cool down 192 sp usage for 1104-1299 dmg o_O it a lvl 100 skill but during the path u still get alot of attack skill


Warrior and cleric gonna get a spell got swift left hand increase ur block rate =/*


cleric have invincible which has a long cool down time

[NaiPinG]

from wat i see =/ ur def and hp is gonna be ur safest bet compare to other class but ur mdef sux so we gonna work on this 2 x.x

[Keenan]

i am a full*END build but i use spr and int rings from time*2 time*


i can hold my own in pvp and pve


hmm lets see i can take on 10mobs of yellow named monters in vine tomb atm


and 3 of those things(forgot thir names)in that prison place

[NaiPinG]

Just 1 question Why int Ring ????

[Gohan99]

Because he's a retard. Lolz

[NoluckNed]

So at the moment it seems that 2 end 1 spr is the way to go although pure end is not a bad option.


Pure strength is a waste i believe due to fighter role in this game being mainly tank and not gank.





Any other ideas?

[mobhunter]

Its true that a tank needs END aka VIT, but it wont matter much if you can kill the enemy quicker, most important part is to hold hate.* Also END and VIT comes natural for a warrior anyways, as well as better armor, so to call pure str useless is very shallow.* besides END is more useless in this game than STR, potions and red stones are easy to come by.**


most importantly is to specify, without specification your useless.* this is What pure STR and damage can do*at level 20-22.*


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Retired 16 hours, level 22 Fighter, tried the beta for a day.



was a really fun mmo, good job outspark =)

[NaiPinG]

well my fighter was lvl 24 b4 beta closes i was a pure str and it had a + 34 dmg , i'm killing much faster than 2 end 1 spr build or pure end =P .cos i tried all this build and i was ...........


And the +34 dmg closed up my gap with pure end player using 2handed weapon but i have better def cos of my shield all my gear was atleast a +3.


Pure str is not recommend to go 2hand due to our defence is really low die easily if get surrounded =/ but we are able to dish out heavy dmg =D and wonderful critical lol


But is better to use 1 hand + shield cos i tried all 3 weapon i'm most happy with 1handed due to the speed and accurary.


is best if u can get both type of weapon =P


2h for training in party


1h for solo and KQ

[Cyris]

True a figter makes a good tank but without the*support from a cleric they r just plain dead. IF u like playing with a figter learn to depend on yourself without the need of a cleric. select the potion and scroll skills which will help u make Hp and Sp potions and the scrolls which can make Atk ,Def, and mag to help beef up ur fighters stats. Also there is a quest in roumen where u can win Hp scrolls after completeing the quest, it is repeatble so u can earn some more to beef up the Hp of your character. Also spend ur money on Hp stones which give a higher level of healing but cost alot. Better farm what ever is valuable to keep ur fighter in tip top shape or else u will end up with a fighter that isn't worth*sending in battle.

[NaiPinG]

lol i'm a solo trainer sometime with a cleric ^^


i only depend on cleric when they need me to be a tank in KQ


if i'm not the tanker i will depend on my stone and pots since the cleric need to focus their attention on the tanker


Cryris make me sound like a fighter that begging for heal in KQ /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-yell.gif

[talonmas]

Everyone should play the char they enjoy the most. And I enjoy to be as 'good' as I can at what I'm expected to do. So if I'm a fighter I'm expected to tank, and thus would add only End and Spr. If I added Str I would become a damage dealer. But why be a fighter to deal damage when other classes do it much better? I rather play those classes then. But that's my view of how to play the game and how I enjoy it.

[NaiPinG]

well is true fighter job is to tank =/ but well everyone play the game different most important is to enjoy =D


just dont over estimate ur ability in game and mades mistakes /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-sealed.gif


as for me i like to go head on with mob and the only class that allows that is the fighter and cleric but a cleric main duty is to support =/ so i will go with fighter


reason for full str ~ just cant stand normal str build dmg when solo training =/

[tonyyvo]

So all in all, the &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; stat to pump in for fighters are 2:1 End:Spr. Now, what skills should we pump our skill points into? The first two i would pump in is slice and dice if ur going 1h weap all the way. and of course the stun attack. any agreements/disagreements?

[Vaxine]

go 2/1 str/spr and stack end gear imo 2h weapon is better imo u want burrst damage in pvp and if u can stun someone then hit them withsomething they dont expect u can take them down all mmorpg pvp is about burst damage use a 1h if ur tanking go 2h if ur a dps build thats the way it goes what ever u neglect stat wise make up for it with your gear.

[Cyris]

No matter how u build ur stats, if you dont know how to fight with a fighter ur waisting ur time. I've seen many fighters die for stupid reasons, adn even got their team mates killed. Even saw two clerics thinking the can team up on King Marlone and both died. Yet I beat him with just one healer u figure that one out.

[Anmonte]

I played my fighter to level 20 full end it was alright, i almost never died i could take on like 4 to 7 guys my level at once but it takes a while to kill them and i end up going through alot of hp stones in the end.. you need a balance or u will have the same problem, weather it be dieing to fast. Or killing to slow.. i had an idea though what if you did 2/1*Str to*spr you would have alot of hp already from class, and have a high chance of critting...as well as the damage bonus*not sure how it will end up. im not impressed with the str thing 5 pts to get a bonus??? better b* a good freakin bonus i dont like wasting points especially 5 at a time for maybe 10 extra dps... I jsut hope its worth it. Any input?

[NaiPinG]

STR = +1.2dmg

END = +.1%block(1~50)/.05%block(51+), +.5def, +5hp.

DEX = +.2%evade(1~50)/.1%evade(51+), +.3%aim(1~33)/.2%aim(34~67)/.1%aim(68+)

INT = +1.2Mdmg

SPR = +.2%crit(1~25)/.1%crit(26+), +.5Mdef, +5sp


If the max level is 100, then this is how a PURE build would look like.


STR = +138dmg

END = +8.25%block, +57.5def, +575hp

DEX = +16.5%evade, +21.2%aim

INT = +138Mdmg

SPR = +14%crit, +57.5Mdef, +575sp


please note that dex end and spr increment will have a drop once u reach certain lvl


so depends on wat kind of build u need u can play ard with the lvl and stats


like add spr from lvl 1 ~25 than add end from lvl 26~50 and continue add str after that


y 1~25 spr u get the most critical boost during this time 0.2 after 25 u only be getting 0.1


y 26~50 end u get + 0.1 block rate from 1~50 and 51 onward u be only getting 0.05 for those who dont*like *spr can just add end from 1~50


after lvl*50 u have SPR:END:(DEX or STR)


but evade increment is evade 0.2% 1~50 0.1% 51+


and for the aim is 1~33 0.3% 34~67 0.2% 68+ 0.1%


so depends only str and int has fixed increment


+5 str = 6dmg


+5 int = 6dmg


and the dmg is a addon the the dmg u dealing to the mob example a lvl 20*fighter whose doest add str hit a mob at 65 per hit a full str build of the same lvl will be hitting 95 on the mob =D if critical happened for both cases is a 130 vs 190 not much but when u reach lvl 100 is a +138 different in dmg*if critical is a + 276


u*already get the*best boost period from both spr and end (fighter dont need int or someone please prove me wrong) so is*either*more dmg or aim


but it still depend on the player


even when i*wrote this i will still go full str build =P*

[wobiiin]

so the;


SPR = +.2%crit(1~25)/.1%crit(26+), +.5Mdef, +5sp


really means that u get more bonus earlier in the game, i was told it was the amount of points u put in..*** that the first 25 -points- gives you 0.2% ea and the rest only 0,1%ea..


is anyone sure about if it's lvls or stats except FlyingSnow, who wrote the guide

[Cyris]

It all depends on how you play so if you lkie going straight to the front lines stick with Endurance, if you like to whack and kill something quick stick to Str but if u try to do the both and be balance fighter you will find you have your work cut out for u. It only depends on how you play the game so build ur characters based on how u play vs how someone else wants to play.

[Resandben]

To whoever suggested empowering stun, i wouldn't suggest it. At 43 you get a more powerful stun based attack called devastate(aoe + stun + damage), it's better to wait till you get this skill and then empower that instead of empowering the normal stun.


The reason i make this suggestion is because normal stun and the aoe stun have linked cooldowns, if you use 1 you cannot use the other stun till the cooldown has worn off.

[NaiPinG]

But how long is that AOE stun cooldown ?

[Resandben]

20 seconds without being empowered, 14 seconds if it has 5 points in the cooldown empowerment.

[NaiPinG]

oooo thanks for the info


But Resandben ppl recommend that cos most ppl never reach that lvl during CB hehe neither did i x.X they are actually recommend wat best at lower lvl XP


but i never empower any skill of mine =X


was waiting for higher lvl skill since i read the china fiesta version and saw their skills {cant wait to get them ^^}

[Vaxine]

With a Fighter i think a str/spr build would work nice for dps and u could always stack endurance gear if u find u can't take the hits but i would go 3/1 spr/str untill 25 then go full str that way u get alot of spr before 25

[ewq5555]

whats the best build then? it sooooo hard to decide wit all the posts

[SDonoir]

I like playing the odd ball characters, and the bottom line for me playing a fighter was damage output and defense against magic. I could stand toe to toe with any melee, but those darn magic users would wear me out with the STR/END build. That's why I switched to a pure SPR fighter. I got up to lvl 23 before beta close. With everything in SPR, I had plenty of MP to perform my skills and was CRITing at least twice each fight, usually more. Critting for over 500 points with 2handed skill helped me more than the extra 100 hit points would have. The plan was to start putting all points into STR after lvl 25, but never got there. I soloed the entire way, but as a tank in a party, I know those CRITs generate a lot of hate.

[DashStorm]

/sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gifTotally you'll need End more.;D

[talonmas]

And it's point added, not level. (talking about the nerf in crit and block and such)





Anyway, I'd go 3:1 or 2:1 End/Spr

[chibuzao121]

im new i havet tried the game yet im wording do firghters or any of there class duel wield?

[JeanBelmont]

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if your 2handed need dex cux fighters miss much especially whit axe, only noobs fighters add str STR is our primary is always on top, you need add dex if your 2 handed for no miss and at the same time the mobs of your lvl miss on you a lvl 35 fighter whit 10 dex have much chances to evade in MT and VT and remember no miss especially whit axe I think no more than 10 DEX is ok and much SPR, add END if your 2handed
I dont like 1 handed sword