Pow/Men or should i say Men/Pow

[klawo]

i just turn into disciple and havent spend any point yet, however i read most of the guide about the pow/men in how some ppl say that it would cast faster skill and crit ALOT. however then there was some guide in which most disciple reseted their men into sta.

so bascially my questions are:
1) how much men will make a different?


2) What about pure men stat , lets say add 40 point into men, will it crit a lot and substitute the crit damage for the power damage?

thanx for helping me. any suggestion or answer would be lovely!

[MarvHartigan]

well, Ito see a significant difference on skill casting speed u will need around 20 men...

And I dont think a pure men would be a good build o.O

Adios!

[carlky]

@el22: NICE SIG.. LOL

well.. dunno about men....

im sure that you would need pow as your main stat though for damage and such.. plus at later levels you will need the capacity to bring pots so you don't have to go back to repot every now and then....

i havent really seen anyone use pow/men though.. coz most builds are stam.. for mobbing and for more durability since our hp is lower than squires and we dont dodge like neos... AH helps a lot but for it to work you need an decent supply of hp as well...

[joradn102794]

WHEN CRIT NOW I ONLY HAV LIKE 100MORE DAMAGE,SO FULL MEN ISNT A GOOD IDEA,I PUTTED 7 POINTS INTO N THE EFFECT IS SHOWING UP ALREADY(LESS MISSES+MORE CRIT),I THINK U SHOULD ONLY PUT 10POINTS INTO MEN LIKIE WAT I DID ")

oops..srry for the cap lock =P,too bad theres no de-cap lock button

good point about fast skill att:more chance of stunning the mob(more hit,more chance),wiht decent pow u can do more damage than other disc in a period of time,oh n men increases the amount of hp/mp recovered when restin/not doing anything(if u r ppl who likes too sit,men is really good)

bad point:it sure does make u burn the mp pots alot+uses abit more money on pots than other disc

overall,as i said b4,do 10men for much more less misss(saw a disc doing 3miss in a row killing a white name T_T),but not 20 or more(u will use up all ur pots in no time if u do...)

[klawo]

So is it 20 men or 21 men that make a slight different , and if can be calculated, how fast would that be... just wanna know.

[joradn102794]

So is it 20 men or 21 men that make a slight different , and if can be calculated, how fast would that be... just wanna know.

20men is a BIG DIFFERENCE!i woudlnt really put 20men as it isnt comfirmed to be a good stat to put in..though i did wat i like :D,i would suggest put 15 MAX (i put 10men)coz super super super fast skill spam wont help much as u will AoE alot from lvl66 if ur amors r decent enough

[Barber]

Ive never added any to Men

The only thing I've ever done is added to POW except for 4 points into Sta...and at lvl75 my HP is sitting at 450 points I do have a Remastas ring that adds 1 more point to Sta for a total of 5 points.

So far my stats are Hp 450 and Mp 206

Pure Pow all the way equals massive hits :D

[joradn102794]

Ive never added any to Men

The only thing I've ever done is added to POW except for 4 points into Sta...and at lvl75 my HP is sitting at 450 points I do have a Remastas ring that adds 1 more point to Sta for a total of 5 points.

So far my stats are Hp 450 and Mp 206

Pure Pow all the way equals massive hits :D

im lvl62 with 6+2 sta n hav 415 hp( u gain 5 hp per lvl)

well for the safe just put pow/sta ,but does higher skill crit mean AoE skill crit too?i wish it does or my point of putting points into men iss nothing *fingerz crossed*

[Barber]

I don't know about Men but with my build right now with a Horror mask equipped, I'm have 480 to 500 point hits with crits going up to 606 sometimes.

For AOE my hits on average go around into the 200 hit point range to each monster usually in Rud just for an example

[klawo]

i was thinking if 20 would make a difference, wat about 40, instant cast?

[joradn102794]

i was thinking if 20 would make a difference, wat about 40, instant cast?
40men n u will really stuggle to lvl up,all classas must hav thier points mainly into either int/agi/pow the rest of them r all just secondary chose

[klawo]

well i did see some disciple aoeing and most of the time crit, so i was thinking if crit but with so so damage, but mob misses you and that u can spam aoe fast and not cancel, wouldnt it better to go men way?

[joradn102794]

well i did see some disciple aoeing and most of the time crit, so i was thinking if crit but with so so damage, but mob misses you and that u can spam aoe fast and not cancel, wouldnt it better to go men way?

men doesnt make u get hit less,only makes u hit more accurte

[MarvHartigan]

In fact MEN does boost ur dodge stat, but really slightly so it's not its main use, and yes, having a high skill crit means more crits when aoe... I mean, aoe is a skill after all, isnt it? >_>

Adios!

[joradn102794]

In fact MEN does boost ur dodge stat, but really slightly so it's not its main use, and yes, having a high skill crit means more crits when aoe... I mean, aoe is a skill after all, isnt it? >_>

Adios!

=O it does!? well dont rely on men to help u on dodgin coz it hardly showed the effect for me >.>

[MarvHartigan]

well, that's what I said, MEN doesnt affect dodge very much, but it affects it (but very little) if u want to dodge u should invest in agi... eerrr... if u want to dodge u should invest on a neo xD

Adios!

[joradn102794]

eerrr... if u want to dodge u should invest on a neo xD

Adios!

XD rofllmao

[klawo]

if anyone have men above 20 and lvl 66 , let me know hows the aoe compare, just wheter crit every time or not and if crit damage is wat?

curret at lvl 67 with no men stats, 62+87 atk, with 3+3 skill crit, i crit around 250 at mines lvl 2, not that fast as i keep geting hit, so somone let me know if 20 men wats its like and also wats is it like with more crit thanx

[Turbo-X-]

Well atm i have 10 men. I think. i use to have around 16 and planning to go around 20-21. And ya u crit more on aoe and u get to spam more skill. If i still play i would get up to 16 maybe 20 men at level 90 but i cant play due to RL stuff. Heres wat i suggest if you want high men and still want some decent damage, get ur guild to help u win the weap class upgrade during the events. get ur Meditation club like to +10 or something then that should at least compensate some of the pow lose. and with the horror mask u should do decent dmg, cuz pow does increase damage but att increase more. Just try attackin with and without ur horror mask it makes a big diff. Im sure theres someone out there with a +6+6 or +7+6 club. If u help me win the upgrade i might sell u mine XDD. Neways thats my 2 cents for someone who barely plays.