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SteiN
08-16-2007, 04:26 PM
I feel that the weapon enhancment is stupid for the fact that your weapons can blowup I am completely fine with it being downgraded but theirs no reason why the weapon should blow up especially for how much they cost I wasted like *13s today because 2 of my lvl 20 hammers blew up and now*I have 2s so Im most likly gonna quit the game just for the fact that their is no reason why someone should be that unlucky im sorry but that is easily the dumbest feature of this game whatever im out.
SDonoir
08-16-2007, 04:51 PM
A lot of MMORPGs have that feature in upgrading, else everyone would have +9 weapons and there wouldn't be anything special to them. Sorry that you lost 2 hammers, I lost 3 lvl 20 staves and I blew up a lvl 15 sword with maxed Ratman, and Boar license and on second level Mara elites by being greedy and trying to go from the +6 I had to a +7. Just a measure to keep play balanced and a sense of awe for those magic weapons. Hope you change your mind and continue playing.
Drusciliana
08-16-2007, 09:30 PM
I would have to respectfully disagree with you, SDonoir. I do not
believe any MMORPG has a system as trying as this one. The fact is not
the issue of items blowing up. It's 100% the issue of -acquiring-
weapons to blow up. This has to be the most non-linear monetary system
I've ever ran across. The Casual player does NOT have the time or
resources to acquire enough money in order to have decent items at the
rate of breakage of enchanting. I've been playing this game for quite
some time and I've amassed a whole 35 silver. I just blew the ENTIRE
amount trying to enchant a level 20 shield (I make my own Elrue/Lix and
farm 50% of the materials to make them). Out of the 10 I worked with, 4
blew up on the first try without any enchants on it. 3 blew at +1
trying for +2, 1 blew up trying +2 to +3, and 2 blew up using Lix for
+3 to +4. I never once even successfully made a +4 since this new
system went in the past few days. At the rate that I play, it will take
me more weeks to get back to the amount of money I had, that I managed
to obliterate in less than 5 minutes. My overall point being, either
the economy needs to be adjusted to the more casual player, or
somewhere someone needs to document the target audience for this game.
As it is now, it is certainly NOT for the casual gamer. It seems to be
more centered around the cool "Azn" or whatever the hell they call
themselves, little punk kids who barely speak english, that can devote
16-20 hours a day farming money to afford to roll those dice on making
items. I don't know what else to say about this, I feel the economy is
the problem, not the enhancing system so much (Even though the odds are
a little "screwed"). Only thing I can see is the coming time when the
game goes live and the only way to actually be on par with what the
game itself requires is you MUST purchase things from the cash shop
(Enhancing bonus items, or money itself) in order to even play on par
with the rest of the playerbase. This is why cash shop games never EVER
attract a large, mature playerbase. People that actually enjoy gaming
and like playing games that are considered "Fair", is to avoid cash
shops.
Although my logic may be hard to follow, I'll try to
sum up my opinion (as it is my opinion, I state nothing of my
conjecture as fact). Here it goes in a nice list:
1) Make game fun and addictive in the gameplay.
2) After lower levels (pre-20), jack up difficulty significantly.
3) Make people that like the game feel inept compared to other players of same level/skill.
4a) Force said people to either play the game for the majority of their waking hours -or-
4b) Force said people to purchase "bonuses" via real life money all in the name of staying "competitive".
If
you don't believe in anything I'm saying. Beg and plead to have this
game turned into a monthly fee game and remove all cash shops and
anything of the sort and watch as the general maturity and attitude of
the average player changes. You'll get a whole different type of
people. The type that actually play the game to have fun, and not the
jerks that get a hard on by spending their mommy's money, or whatever
they made in their asian sneaker sweatshop, so they can feel good about
themselves *****ing at others for talking on forums and stating pretty
much factual information they don't happen to agree with.
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru.
P.S.
As the Opening Poster says, I too, am giving up on this game for the
obvious above reasons. Sad thing is, I'm actually the rarity that plays
this game to actually TEST things and not learn of exploits they can
use when the game goes live. Grow up, bunch of idiots.
There are 3 slots in enhancement window.
You can put blue,red,gold stones in these slots.
A blue stone avoids downgrading the item.
A red stone avoids breaking the item.
A gold stone increases the chanse of success of upgrading the item.
These stones are not yet implemented during beta test.
imported_MyYing
08-17-2007, 07:28 AM
There are 3 slots in enhancement window.
You can put blue,red,gold stones in these slots.
A blue stone avoids downgrading the item.
A red stone avoids breaking the item.
A gold stone increases the chanse of success of upgrading the item.
These stones are not yet implemented during beta test.
then when will they be implemented because i feel jus like the 2 quats above you except i dont agree with the whole "Asian" thing im not against any culture and no im azn despite my chars name lol
HellsShadow
08-17-2007, 07:44 AM
hmm... not sure why you guys always complain about your stuff breaking and, oh I broke this many weapons and shields. if you failed the first 5 times why the hell do you try again, and then complain about it. it clearly says your stuff can break, and the other thing is, if the enchancement system was not like this then it would cost you a **** load to get a +1 enhancement on your gear I mean look at WoW, enhancements cost quite some silver and gold, and mats are hard to get. Not in this game though, in here the mats are easy to get especially if you make a mage ad go kill slimes and stuff till lvl 8 then put items in your storage delet the character and do it again. I do this and get anywere from 500-700 of each Dust, spirit fruit, tough meat and summoned beast leather.
Alejo17
08-17-2007, 01:39 PM
***!!??? Druscilla is soo right u got the time and ur mommys money*to do that just to brat in the forums im a super high lvl wiith verything +9 im super cool!!!! Its a dam game!!!! so if u thing u r suiper cool having all ur items +9 no your not
Walkingeagle
08-17-2007, 01:58 PM
Im done. Unless they change the way weapon inhancement works or change the difficulty, I wont be back. I just broke my level 20 sword for the 6th time. You ask why we keep trying to upgrade. Well, maybe its because the game gets so hard after level 20. We are just trying To play. I cant get anywhere in burning hill. After every*couple of fights*I have to use a couple of potion. We have*3, 4 and sometimes 5 or 6 monsters attack us at once.*That either calls for the use of 6 potions, a house, or death.We do not*pick up*enough materials to keep up. And we cant buy anymore because people are using them or they are sold out.*And as you raise levels you dont get many material ( or sometimes no materials) from lower level creatures. This is becoming a PARTY ONLY game. Now, I have no money and no sword. Im gone for now. I will be back to see if things have changed when the real game starts. If it hasn't, I will be deleting my account.
Alais
08-17-2007, 03:03 PM
Beg and plead to have this
game turned into a monthly fee game and remove all cash shops and
anything of the sort and watch as the general maturity and attitude of
the average player changes. You'll get a whole different type of
people. The type that actually play the game to have fun, and not the
jerks that get a hard on by spending their mommy's money, or whatever
they made in their asian sneaker sweatshop, so they can feel good about
themselves *****ing at others for talking on forums and stating pretty
much factual information they don't happen to agree with.
Have you ever played WoW? If not go check out the forums there and just see how much worse it is and thats a game where you pay monthly to play.
People will be unhappy about anything as it has nothing to do with monthly fees at all. Theirs always someone whose discontent about X and needs to complain whether on the forums for this game or another it will always happen.
ASCIIrider
08-17-2007, 03:22 PM
Well just seems like a LOT of people don't understand the concept of a *BETA* game....
1) They don't HAVE to let you play.. you have no*God given right to play it..
2) As it IS a beta... anything/everything is subject to change..
*3)*So freaking what that you broke X amount of weapons... ALL the characters will be wiped anyhow*when open beta starts!
Like I said this is a BETA! We're in here to test and help IMPROVE the game by reporting errors....trying everything..etc. If all you care about is it's free...and how much game money you're losing and want to whine and quit.... bye, go play another free MMORPG that's full version.
Drusciliana
08-17-2007, 03:22 PM
There are plenty of other monthly fee games that do NOT act like
this or WoW. I suggest you go yourself and look and you'll see WoW is
the exception to the rule. WoW has always been a game run by the little
idiot kids. Just read EVERY other paying game forums (EQ, EQ2, VG,
etc.) and you'll see that WoW is pretty much not the norm, so you can't
compare anything to it. Yes, people will always be discontent. But tell
me what is wrong with making a game where everyone is always on an even
playing field. As always, my main points are never commented on, just
things people will not pick about semantics or a rare exception. I
respect your opinion also Alais, as you're obviously an educated person
as you've actually written a response that can be read, but I don't see
anything wrong either with other people's responses about losing all of
their hard work. These are supposed to be games. They're supposed to be
fun. This is irrefutable. There's fun in trying to do things. There's
no fun in watching all your hard work be lost.
I'll put any one
who likes this system and says it's great up to a challenge. I will
give you 5 level 20 weapons. I will license them all as they have my
name on it so you can't use your own to try. I will supply all the Lix
and Elrue, I want someone to make me 3 +5 weapons. +5 is the halfway
point to +9 so I think that's fair. If you can get 3 of the 5 (60% of
them), to the 50% mark in enhancing, I will give you 25 silver. If you
cannot, you give me your account. Simple. If the system works for you,
you should be able to do this. If you're not willing to try this, then
just shut the **** up about this system being fine.
Just one girl's opinion
Dru
Cyris
08-17-2007, 04:39 PM
People if u take the chance of enchaning your equipment and it breaks it all on u, as 4 me I had enchance my sword and shield with no problem what so ever. I only got to upgrade it to the fist stage and didn't pursue it to the second. My opinion, I think the whole enchaning thing is cool but I see no real need for it unless u like the shiny flashy equipment. It does add bonus damage and defense*but why take the chance to enhance them if u gonna cry about it when it breaks. :(
lunelune
08-17-2007, 05:16 PM
I would have to respectfully disagree with you, SDonoir. I do not
believe any MMORPG has a system as trying as this one. The fact is not
the issue of items blowing up. It's 100% the issue of -acquiring-
weapons to blow up. This has to be the most non-linear monetary system
I've ever ran across. The Casual player does NOT have the time or
resources to acquire enough money in order to have decent items at the
rate of breakage of enchanting. I've been playing this game for quite
some time and I've amassed a whole 35 silver. I just blew the ENTIRE
amount trying to enchant a level 20 shield (I make my own Elrue/Lix and
farm 50% of the materials to make them). Out of the 10 I worked with, 4
blew up on the first try without any enchants on it. 3 blew at +1
trying for +2, 1 blew up trying +2 to +3, and 2 blew up using Lix for
+3 to +4. I never once even successfully made a +4 since this new
system went in the past few days. At the rate that I play, it will take
me more weeks to get back to the amount of money I had, that I managed
to obliterate in less than 5 minutes. My overall point being, either
the economy needs to be adjusted to the more casual player, or
somewhere someone needs to document the target audience for this game.
As it is now, it is certainly NOT for the casual gamer. It seems to be
more centered around the cool "Azn" or whatever the hell they call
themselves, little punk kids who barely speak english, that can devote
16-20 hours a day farming money to afford to roll those dice on making
items. I don't know what else to say about this, I feel the economy is
the problem, not the enhancing system so much (Even though the odds are
a little "screwed"). Only thing I can see is the coming time when the
game goes live and the only way to actually be on par with what the
game itself requires is you MUST purchase things from the cash shop
(Enhancing bonus items, or money itself) in order to even play on par
with the rest of the playerbase. This is why cash shop games never EVER
attract a large, mature playerbase. People that actually enjoy gaming
and like playing games that are considered "Fair", is to avoid cash
shops.
Although my logic may be hard to follow, I'll try to
sum up my opinion (as it is my opinion, I state nothing of my
conjecture as fact). Here it goes in a nice list:
1) Make game fun and addictive in the gameplay.
2) After lower levels (pre-20), jack up difficulty significantly.
3) Make people that like the game feel inept compared to other players of same level/skill.
4a) Force said people to either play the game for the majority of their waking hours -or-
4b) Force said people to purchase "bonuses" via real life money all in the name of staying "competitive".
If
you don't believe in anything I'm saying. Beg and plead to have this
game turned into a monthly fee game and remove all cash shops and
anything of the sort and watch as the general maturity and attitude of
the average player changes. You'll get a whole different type of
people. The type that actually play the game to have fun, and not the
jerks that get a hard on by spending their mommy's money, or whatever
they made in their asian sneaker sweatshop, so they can feel good about
themselves *****ing at others for talking on forums and stating pretty
much factual information they don't happen to agree with.
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru.
P.S.
As the Opening Poster says, I too, am giving up on this game for the
obvious above reasons. Sad thing is, I'm actually the rarity that plays
this game to actually TEST things and not learn of exploits they can
use when the game goes live. Grow up, bunch of idiots.
You're wrong. A few MMOs do. It's not a bad thing, either. Just means more money for those who are able to do it. Ragnarok Online, for example, doesn't even give you a chance if you fail. You fail = item gone. Harder to get the items for it as well.
Drusciliana
08-17-2007, 05:24 PM
Ok, Lune. I stand corrected. I should have written it differently. I
should have meant to say the ones that I've played (EQ, EQ2, VG, AO,
EO, I mostly have played monthly paid games. And tons of MUDS). I can
understand the chance of blowing items the higher you enchant them, but
losing things with no enchants at all is kinda wrong. We'll just have
to agree to disagree.
pmsben
08-18-2007, 07:58 AM
whether or not your 2 level 20 hammers didn't blow up, you're still going to face the deletion of your characters.
angelswings
08-18-2007, 12:26 PM
Wow.. Instead of arguing with these closed minded people... Just let them quit.* perhaps the lag with let up some.* Every other mmorpg I have played has had the same chances of destroying weapons/armors.* I hate that you guys broke items but it is a risk.* It is a chance.* Instead of flaming the game*or puffing up and threatening to quit, Make suggestions. It is Closed Beta that you signed up to play afterall...
tehsamm
08-18-2007, 12:27 PM
These risky "Enhancing" Systems are always risky ya know? It's like going to the casino. Either you feel lucky or you don't, and if you do want to upgrade, it just takes perserverance [or that other thing I was reading, "Asian"].
I'd make those big long paragraph speeches about the ups and downs about this but I'll make it short since I am a bit tired.
If you are going to enhance, be prepared for the worst or don't enhance at all. If you want to be cool and just have something glowing, stop at +3 at least. That's good enough for you is it? Lol. xD
vanarcken113
08-18-2007, 02:22 PM
I'm with everybody who has psoted on this wall...yes I hate my weapons blowing up but it makes the game last longer. If the echanting didn't work and your weapons didn't blow up then you just have to keep trying till you get to a +9. But on the other hand having your weapons blow up can be infuriating (sp?). Maybe have a different set of lvls the weapons can get to for every ten character lvls. Like lvls 1-10 can get to +5. Lvls 11-20 can get to +10. And so on...but if your enchantment doesn't work then just downgrade the weapon back a regular weapon. Escpecially after lvl 40 or whatever becuase the weapons can get very expensive.
*Feel free to comment.
phantor
08-18-2007, 02:38 PM
lol you nub, the whole point of beta is to test out , and IF any good try to make better by pointing out flaws in the game. I myself find the fact that you cant change your trade skills annoying and would like that looked at, but what the hell eh..all gets deleted..cough
rNadom
08-18-2007, 05:07 PM
i think the idea of item breaking is good... it filters out ppl to get insane items too fast... wats the point when i hit 60 for mayb 3 months and get a +9 sword while some that just started the game and just hit 60 and already have the same items as myself? ... QQ more ...
Lodos
08-18-2007, 05:39 PM
I don't mind the items breaking, my complaint is how early they can breake. The last two items i tryed to upgrade broke at +2 and one of them was with a blessed elure. ................I don't upgrade anymore
nate5858
08-19-2007, 01:39 AM
Too many walls of text to read...
In short, don't be greedy...a weapon with no enchantments will work just fine. Feel free to try and make one if you have an extra weapon/silver laying around but don't try if you can't afford losing the equipment...and for god sakes always have a breakup weapon.
edit:btw if ppl still don't get it..it's supposed to be hard to get a +9 weapon...they're insanely powerful
nemesis_eternal
08-19-2007, 12:14 PM
They should even out the rates more evenly as it should almost impossible to break your weapon at lvl 1-3. However still getting to lvl +9 will make the weapon really strong so there should be a chance of breaking however not as much as degrading as I have broken weapons many more times then i have degraded them.
Anferus
08-19-2007, 12:34 PM
omg what kind of person*have time to*write this much!!!/sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-yell.gif
I broke 3 lvl 20 armor in a row trying to get it to +1 not kidding/sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif* and im ok /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif*but drop this form, it's a pain to read./sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:37 AM
i dont know why but i like when dru writes lol she tends to put ppl in place xD
TastyTapioca
08-23-2007, 12:07 PM
Well considering the majority of the posters come from the lower end of the gene pool or dropped out of 4th grade, take your pick..
Semaj
08-23-2007, 12:32 PM
i have to agree with the enchanting problem. i dont have a problem with the item being downgraded if the enchantment fails, but breaking on a +1 or 2 when your lev. 20+ is a bit sad. my cleric (lv 23) had a +4str +7end hammer and it broke the first time trying to enchant with a blessed Elrue...
I also agree about the economy of this game, im a full time student, and have a life outside my comp. its hard for me to save up to buy new (expensive when its lv 20+) equipment when i only have time to play maby an hour or two a day....i agree, it would be nice for the lower level monsters to drop some materials, even if you dont get xp for killing them, which is understandable...
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 02:50 PM
"Smja! yu nub. you nut paly 20 huor day lik leet playr. i pwne yo
nub nub nub. game not borken, yu be brkoe! yu come korealand! i give
job in unkle sweatshop! me yu paly dis game al day n nite. yu do like
me, spend my Won on cash shop item. get me gud stuf. get magik
rock use echnat mi swerd. yu nub! me supr!"
- Now you owe me,
Semaj. I just saved you tons of responses just like this one that you'd
most certainly receive for writing such a lucid message. And what in
god's green earth are you doing in school? You must play this game
every second you're awake. Drop out. Follow the example of the majority
that play here...
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru
Anubis1991
08-23-2007, 02:54 PM
*why does everyone care? everyones items are gone anyways cuz of the open beta, or am i wrong?
conorman
08-23-2007, 03:15 PM
Anubis is right, who really cares if you broke like X amount of weps. This is just the beta! Things will change dramaticly!
SDonoir
08-23-2007, 03:36 PM
A little behind in the posts, but I'll make an attempt to refine my post. I've played a lot of free MMOs as well as the pay per month and have seen this upgrade method used a lot. I agree with you Dru, in that it is pretty harsh to have the kind of failure rate you had with your lvl 20s. At the time I made that post, I had made 3 lvl 15 +6 weapons for myself and two other friends only destroying maybe 2 out of 3 weapons before achieving +6. Personally, I couldn't tell a significant difference in performance out of my +6 sword to my "clean" sword, other than the obvious graphics. That being the case, I wouldn't think the need for glowing weapons would overshadow the point of actual game play. That's my opinion, and is probably shared with very few. I'm curious to see how the open beta goes, but I have a feeling I'll be leaving the game too, not due to the frustation of upgrading equipment, but due to the inevitable onslaught of immature players that will ruin what little time most of us have to play this game for the sheer enjoyment and entertainment aspect. I enjoyed the closed beta since most everyone knew that our time was limited and were playing just for the fun of playing, not just for the purpose of outdoing the next guy. It's been my experience that the first couple of months in any open beta is flooded by players just trying to screw over everyone else and gain bragging rights. Usually after about 4 months, after the glitter has worn off, the game will either cater to the braggarts and will be one big back-stabbing, exploiting community, or will fall back to a decent role playing group. The path the game takes is directly proportionate to the amount of attention the GMs pay to what is going on in game and how fast they address complaints from other players. I truely hope this game falls into the later. If for some reason you do decide to stay Dru, let me know. I'll fight off the forces of evil by your side any day. Someone who can express their concerns and frustration as eloquently as you is a rare commodity. Maybe you could head a guild and with it's members maintain the integrity of the game.
DemonEyeKyo
08-23-2007, 03:49 PM
i do not agree... +9 r supossed to be almost impossible to make but lot have one... so i* guess the enchantment system isnt even hard enough... n i hate people that complain ... :O
Anmonte
08-23-2007, 03:57 PM
*i feel its fair but unfair i think that you should start with a very high chance of enchanting and with every sucsess it should decrease, i mean really it does suck to break weapons and its not like u can go find another one u have to buy it... and money is hard to come by in this game. i mean in world of warcraft ur stuff doesnt break but it did cost ALOT for a good enchant*and you had to come up with all of your own materials. if any of u understand the economy inwow before expantion to get a crusader enchant u needed 2*orbs and some other stuff.* each orb costed about 30g on my server. so thats 60 right there then the other mats were about idk maybe 10g at most then the enchanter would fee u about 20g if they were nice... thats alot of gold... but the enchant was good and not alot of people had it back when i got mine. its all give and take guys.
do0dles
08-23-2007, 04:01 PM
Just play silkroad online, free and is practically the best free MMORPG there is. Your weapons wont blow up lol, they will just be brought down to*what it was before you tried to enhance it but it will be +0 :).
*Me at lvl 71 in my thief suite, 80 being the highest,
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/digital-/me.jpg ("http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/digital-/me.jpg")
Me without thief suite on. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/digital-/me2.jpg ("http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/digital-/me2.jpg")
I give silkroad online a rate of*10 and 10 being the highest. Sign up and try it you will like it. www.silkroadonline.net ("http://www.silkroadonline.net/")
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 04:05 PM
Then Queen B-itch is delighted that you find entertainment in Her
posts, and cordially invites you, SDonoir, to give Open Beta a go as
She has decided to. She asks that you seek Her out when you're playing
as to consolidate resources to make the trying times ahead a little
easier. She also shares your outlook, but thinks that 4 months is
gravely underestimating the idiocy these games bring about. She feels
that it will fall into the former category, rather than the latter. She
plays nonetheless, until some other titles She has been waiting for
grant themselves to Her. She says that you may message her at your
convenience if you wish to take Her up on Her offer. She does, however,
take offense at your offer to "fight off the forces of evil".
You see... The Queen B-itch... Well... She IS Evil.
"Porro ago Regina Vilis"
Dru... (Yes, I speak Latin... well somewhat... /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-kiss.gif)
Valentis
08-23-2007, 05:07 PM
I will agree with several of Dru's points, mainly that the monetary system does need reworking. Either that, or monsters need to start dropping normal equipment to offset the sheer cost of buying from NPCs after level 20. Enhancement stones are cheap; items to enhance are not. However, given that the enhancement system is naturally split into three segments (as in Elrue, Lix, Xir) and that there are three possible outcomes when you fail an enhancement (no penalty, downgrading, or breakage), it's not too much of a stretch to expect some sort of correlation between level of enhancement and possible failure penalties to be implemented. In fact, I believe such a system is currently used in the Japanese version of this game.
That being said, I would have to disagree with your generalization of pay-to-play and cash-shop based games. While the relative merits of each are debatable, my personal view is that if I am to pay for anything while playing an online game, I would rather pay so that I can get some sort of extra benefit, rather than paying to be able to play at all. Of course, cash shop items need to be limited in usefulness so as not to be unbalancing, but that's a discussion for the future, since the full cash shop has not been revealed as of yet. In any case, the community of a game tends to develop as a result of factors other than whether the game is pay-to-play or cash-shop, at least that is my view. There will always be idiots on the internet, but I have found some great friends and communities even in games much more poorly designed than Fiesta.
Finally, being Asian myself, I am well aware of the reputation some of us have earned in other games, but others are just people who enjoy playing MMOs and are perfectly fun to play with. Keep an open mind, you might be surprised =P.
I'm glad you decided to give OB a shot. I'll look for you ingame; people of intelligence are always worth knowing.
SDonoir
08-23-2007, 06:55 PM
Then Queen B-itch is delighted that you find entertainment in Her
posts, and cordially invites you, SDonoir, to give Open Beta a go as
She has decided to. She asks that you seek Her out when you're playing
as to consolidate resources to make the trying times ahead a little
easier. She also shares your outlook, but thinks that 4 months is
gravely underestimating the idiocy these games bring about. She feels
that it will fall into the former category, rather than the latter. She
plays nonetheless, until some other titles She has been waiting for
grant themselves to Her. She says that you may message her at your
convenience if you wish to take Her up on Her offer. She does, however,
take offense at your offer to "fight off the forces of evil".
You see... The Queen B-itch... Well... She IS Evil.
LOL...sorry, poor choice of words...in my opinion, "evil" is a point of view....opposition would have been a better term. I'll be sure to choose my words more wisely in the future, My Queen.
kotime2
08-23-2007, 07:56 PM
GOD JUST STFU PEOPLE I CANT BELIEVE YOU WAIST UR TIME TYPING SO MUCH OVER GAME O wAIT A BETA!!!!!!!!!GET A LIFE********************************* P.S. WoW SUCKS *** AND BIG JUICY BALLS
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 08:17 PM
Waste, waste, waste, waste, waste. For the love of god, it's "WASTE", "WASTE your time", "WASTE your money"
Your "WAIST" is that thing that's stopping you from seeing your own noodle
when you stand up, ya fat *******. Learn to type, learn to read, learn
something, PLEASE!
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru
P.S. - This took me approximately 6 seconds to type. And responding to you,
gave me oh so much joy, and to those that read it, so I don't think
it's a "WASTE" of anyone's time. And the only reason you hate WoW so
much (Not that I'm a fan either, personally), is that you got in a
fight with your mommy because she stopped paying for your account
because your playing so much was causing you to be late for
kindergarten in the morning.
P.P.S. - The last postscript took me 15 seconds...
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 08:21 PM
kotime2 maybe it's you that should stfu. You say that you see people wasting their time typing over a game, when what*I see are intelligent beings stating their opinions in a conservative manner. No rudeness,profanity...I swear it's*like watching art.
Hmm why am I even wasting my time on you. Debating with a fool is like spitting on a fish...it's best not to bother^^
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 08:25 PM
Hehe, I like MyYingers already. Even though he's a boy. Consider yourself fortunate, my new friend :)
That's also some profound wisdom you shared with us, so you get a point...
Dru
Neofrost
08-23-2007, 08:30 PM
Waste, waste, waste, waste, waste. For the love of god, it's "WASTE", "WASTE your time", "WASTE your money"
Your "WAIST" is that thing that's stopping you from seeing your own noodle when you stand up, ya fat *******. Learn to type, learn to read, learn something, PLEASE!
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru
P.S. - This took me approximately 6 seconds to type. And responding to you, gave me oh so much joy, and to those that read it, so I don't think it's a "WASTE" of anyone's time. And the only reason you hate WoW so much (Not that I'm a fan either, personally), is that you got in a fight with your mommy because she stopped paying for your account because your playing so much was causing you to be late for kindergarten in the morning.
P.P.S. - The last postscript took me 15 seconds...
Hardcore Owned....
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Ontopic: Enhancing... its like a gamble. The way I look at it is: If you can't afford to lose it, then don't gamble it.
Though, it is rather frustrating breaking your weapon on the first try. >_<
Maybe the three slots down the bottom will help. :O
Edit: MY OPINION ON THE TOPIC STANDS NEUTRAL! DON'T KILL ME!!!!
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 08:57 PM
I like your "neutral' approach lol ^.-b and ty Dru. I like to read and the way you all word your phrases...it just grabs me, i love it ^^.
p.s. Dru you remind me of someone I've met on previous mmorpg's....oh well topic for another day* ^.- b
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 09:04 PM
Maybe, I've been on quite a few various games, but I always go with
this name because it's my first name, and it's original. No shame in
notoriety :)
Love ya,
Dru...
Rzpect
08-23-2007, 09:07 PM
aiya.. when there is a forum there is always drama
 
Trebori
08-23-2007, 09:13 PM
lol Get 'em Dru! /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif
It is easy to pick out the kiddies on the forums. They make it all way to obvious hehe. Kotime2 is clearly pre-pubescent, and is acting like a child that had his lolipop taken away./sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif
silverequiem
08-23-2007, 09:25 PM
wow if u kiddies dont like the fact ur stuff breaks, get over it and dont upgrade, and i cant be positive but i had a title like, enhancement god or something and i rarely broke stuff once i put the title on, well i also found a sorta system to where it would go next depending on where it landed the prev. time, but still, even before this, i lost over 100s with stuff breaking who cares, heres a tip for you losers who dont know how to game,
1. sell stuff in ur vendor! put it in a good location and decent prices and go AFK while u sell, like if u actually have a life, when u r either going to school, or hanging with friends, throw the game on and go vendor, if u got decent stuff u'll make money.
2. when u do decide to upgrade ur stuff, make sure u have enough to buy it again incase it breaks, that way u have the weapon/armour/shield so u dont have a complete loss. this is what i did and i got my steel axe to +9 because well, im amazing.
3. and yea since those yellow,blue, and red stones are being implamented into the game, the decrease of ur stuff breaking decreases, now gather ur panties in a bunch and get over it
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 09:38 PM
Drama? It's called entertainment. You've never took pleasure in
destroying the will and ideologies of others? Oh wait... That's just
me...
"Stultus mos vinco Orbis Terrarum, quoniam Sollers erant mortuus ex Dedecus"
Dru...
Trebori
08-23-2007, 09:41 PM
I think Dru and myself must be related. We think way to much alike /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif
spawn0005
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
hey man u gotta give this game alot more credit u cant hate a game for 1 bad feature plus u would be the idiot to take a big risk on something liek that just buy a hammer already with bounus effect plus the guys who created this r being genourous they could charge us presious money but they dont
DemonEyeKyo
08-23-2007, 09:50 PM
stop complaining or die... in fact just die :P if u dont like the game the way it is u can just play something else
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:07 PM
Beleive me when i say anything with an item mall isnt free or anything for that matter...and no a game like this couldnt charge me to play it lol. Also theres always some suck-up on every game saying thank the GM's, well i do thank them when its been earned...
Oh and Demon i prefer living unlike you, besides dieing is to easy and its more than apparent that you had nothing to say so you just bunched a group of words together in hopes that you could get in a "say so".
Well you only acomplished getting slaughtered...
Also dont call me a flamer because*i dont flame...I BURN THE GAWD-DAMNN*PLACE DOWN AND BEHEAD EVERY *******D LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE!!!
Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 10:08 PM
This one's a winner, Yingers. In another post, he called me "hairy". Gotta love 'em.
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:21 PM
O.o "hairy"...that does'nt even make sense. Reminds me of another poster on here *drop*
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my suggestion don't be a loner, ur playing an mmo if u are a loner go play some console games or something its called mmorpg for a reason.
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Drusciliana
08-23-2007, 10:24 PM
Well, he got upset because I'm a l-esbian and didn't want to marry him,
so that was the most intelligent response he could give. So, I told him
to wait a few years and maybe his pubes will finally grow in, then he
can be hairy too.
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:28 PM
ROFLMFAO!!!
hyperswoss
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Drama? It's called entertainment. You've never took pleasure in destroying the will and ideologies of others? Oh wait... That's just me...
Is that what you're trying to do? I suggest trying harder. What you're doing is*about at B-level, at best. /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif**Trebori, don't kiss ***.
Eh, I don't care for the current system, but I don't really dislike it. If I can get any item to +4, I'll try for +6. Then +7, and so on. I guess I'm a little bit of a gamble-a-holic when it comes to enhancing.
I think a change would go over well, and may be called for, but it won't happen. This game is modeled after Shine/Bright Kingdom, and as long as those stay the same, so will this. Even if they did change, it would take months, if not years, to take effect in America.
I don't agree with the first point, but more to the later ones.*Overall, I have to say that I*agree, though.*I hear rumors that the CB1 success rate was higher, and it seemed that way in the beginning of CB2. Plus, I wouldn't really call some of the posts here &quot;intelligent&quot;. :\
kotime2, would you mind translating that into English? (Get some lessons in either the English language or Grammar 101.)
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Can't really help but to respect his opinion ^.- b .
elfreakyfrog
08-23-2007, 10:50 PM
&quot;Smja! yu nub. you nut paly 20 huor day lik leet playr. i pwne yo nub nub nub. game not borken, yu be brkoe! yu come korealand! i give job in unkle sweatshop! me yu paly dis game al day n nite. yu do like me, spend my Won on cash shop item. get me gud stuf. get magik rock use echnat mi swerd. yu nub! me supr!&quot;
- Now you owe me, Semaj. I just saved you tons of responses just like this one that you'd most certainly receive for writing such a lucid message. And what in god's green earth are you doing in school? You must play this game every second you're awake. Drop out. Follow the example of the majority that play here...
Just one girl's opinion,
Dru
*who cares where the kid is from dru, are you that racist that you feel the need to enflame someone?* Personally I'm sick of your brow beating and I certainly hope every one of your attempts at &quot;enchanting&quot; something fails miserably.* You had a few intelligent points to make...and should have left it at that.* Why do u waste your time like this...what in gods green earth are &quot;you&quot; doing playing a game like this so much.* Same could be said for anyone of us...geez girl...lighten up...people play to have fun...sure the enchanting needs a lil attention...not too much tho...I do think that higher lvl weapons that cost more shouldn't break so easy...obviously with the increase in the cost of the weapon the quality of the weapon should increase as well making it more difficult to enchant.*
I stopped enchanting lvl 20 weapons after i lost two...went back to the lvl 15 weapons and bought a cr@p ("cr@p") load of em just to practice enchanting with...and guess what...i broke a few but it didn't break me either and I walked away with a +7 blade...which made a huge diff as far as damage is concerned...I still broke stuff down the line...but not as often either as I have reason to believe that enchanting is a skill and to refine any skill comes with practice...why else would they have character titles stating, &quot;unlucky enchanter&quot; &quot;item spoiler&quot; &quot;skillful enchanter&quot; and so on...each title has its own percs i've found with skillful enchancer I've found I break less stuff than with unlucky or item spoiler...could be wrong but it was an educated deduction based on loss of items and when...
i've said enuff for now...
await your response dru
Just a guy tired of all the ***** talk...
imported_MyYing
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
OK im not Dru or anything but what percs do you see with your titles. Do you get an extra dmg bonus for using the clever-fighter title or can you silence all with the shoutbox title jus wondering...not flaming ^.- b
Drusciliana
08-24-2007, 01:04 AM
Froggy, it's not about being racist, it's just an example. It's to
prove a point to the general public that it really isn't that hard to
get your opinions out there without the person on the other end reading
it just discount your opinion because someone sounds like an idiot.
Here's an example. Repeat after me (This is in general, not at you,
froggy). Say this out loud &quot;I went to the store to pick something up to
eat&quot;. Now every person in America should be able to say those words,
just like that, and they probably do in real life. But for some
forsaken reason, they cannot repeat those words in writing. THAT is the
issue. I'm sorry you can't see it and look at is as flames. Have I EVER
&quot;flamed&quot; anyone that wrote well and had valid points, I often commended
them and just left it as &quot;I guess we'll agree to disagree&quot; as I have in
the past, if you read my prior posts, you'd have seen. The people that
abbreviate everything and use capitals and thousands of punctuation
marks show themselves to be nothing more than fools. As someone earlier
said, this is the American version of the game. Why don't all these
people that can't speak English (no offense to the Asians) just go and
play on the asian version of the games. What's the difference to them
if the games will be the exact same thing in the long run? I think
that's a valid question.
Last I checked, I hadn't made a single comment about enchanting
in quite some time, I gave up on it. So you flaming me for complaining
about it is rather late, and therefore really doesn't accomplish
anything other than to add something else, that isn't even valid
anymore, for you to &quot;whine&quot; about me.
I put up a challenge to anyone who thought the system was sound. Not
ONE SINGLE PERSON accepted, but yet continued berating me. If this
system is fine, then prove it. Accept what I offered, but no one did.
I've since given up, and I've moved on from talking about it, as you
can see if you read the dates on my previous posts.
Now I can't comment on what you're saying about the titles, as I honestly
never tried. I just kept my title as one thing the whole time since I
learned about titles. Perhaps I'll give that a shot if you claim it to
be worthy of one.
As for what I'm doing playing the game, it's simple. I play to enjoy
myself. I play for the challenge of overcoming what people used a
computer to program for me to overcome. I play for entertainment. I
play to pass the time. I play to escape the dim reality that is just
that. I play for the same reasons we all do...
I &quot;***** talk&quot;, as you put it, to make people think. If one
person actually starts to learn to proofread their work, then it all
works out. Is it my right to do this? No, it's not, I'm fully aware of
that. If you actually stop reading literally what I write, you'll see
that I only talk trash about the same thing. I like this game, I really
do...
Hypothetical question for you, Froggy. If you were a brand
new player, would you rather come to a new game and see a bunch of
people talking civilly and making sense, or just see a bunch of
ramblings on in some incomprehensible tongue, with the occassional
insult throw in?
Just as everyone else says that if I don't like it, then don't play.
Well if anyone doesn't like what I have to say, then don't read it.
It's that simple. No one's forcing to you to read it. Go on another forum.
Sound familiar?
Love ya, sweetheart,
Dru...
&quot;No one's perfect. But there is no excuse for not trying to be.&quot;
guildmen4321
08-24-2007, 02:05 AM
its called &quot;gameble&quot;....makes everything interesting.
SDonoir
08-24-2007, 02:08 AM
Why the heck I'm up at 3AM reading this forum, I'll never really know. I guess Dru's teleparthic influence woke me up. I will have to say one thing..I wish Stein was still around to thank him for starting this thread. It's really evolved into a decent discussion. I've managed to find several people on here that I'll be looking forward to playing with. I think it has gotten to the point that a new thread should be started to continue this discussion. &quot;The Dumbest thing about this game&quot; title just doesn't fit anymore, unless we're talking about the majority of people that will actually be playing the game. Dru, I wish it were only non English speaking players I had trouble understanding in chat. Those I can somewhat forgive, but it's this text messagesque (is that a word?) cr@p that everyone spouts. Unfortunately, it's not just in game, but I've heard people on the street talk in IM speak. I overheard two kids talking about a recent soccer game they played and the term &quot;pwned&quot; was used. It was all I could do to keep myself from hitting him with a rolled up newspaper and rubbing his nose in it. &quot;NO, NO..bad boy...bad&quot; We as a society are showing the rest of the world on a daily basis how ignorant we have become. I think I just went way off topic. Anyone up for starting a new thread?
imported_MyYing
08-24-2007, 02:12 AM
its called &quot;gameble&quot;....makes everything interesting.
You apparently did'nt read a word of what was written and obviously had nothing to say but wanted a post number...
There...you got it along with a royal slaughtering...what you cant see it...look closer...there ya go, you can*see it now ^.- b
(another added to the dog pile)
Swalot15
08-24-2007, 02:23 AM
I get all my enhanced weapons from player shops and im not complaining that i broke 4 lvl 20 axes trying to get them to +1,+2 and had to spend a week trying to get my money back with the help of my brother, who spent all his money trying to help me. The thing is, I think they should lower the chance percentage of stuff being broken when we r trying to get them to +1, +2, +3. Besides, for 1 who doesnt make enhancement stones, they can b a little expensive.
Megaswalot, ex-lvl 21 CleverFighter
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dorablue
08-24-2007, 06:16 AM
Darn. I gave up at 2:00 am and missed so many interesting posts /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif.
This has been one of the most intriguing threads this week, even if we did go off-topic. It will indeed be fun seeing everyone in-game tonight.
BTW, if there is a flame-war, I want Dru and Ying on my side!
crazyscott12
08-24-2007, 06:24 AM
why dont you just get a good party together with a mage chleric archer
then you will find it much easy er Lol XD
imported_MyYing
08-24-2007, 06:52 AM
Rofl any time dora but you must remeber i dont flame...
I BURN THE GAWD-DAMNN*PLACE DOWN AND BEHEAD EVERY *******D LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE!!!* ^.- b
Neofrost
08-24-2007, 07:04 AM
*is scared of the wrath of the intelligent posters*
Wahh!
(not intended to be sarcastic)
Meh! The thing I feel is the dumbest is how a random Speedy Kebing can fly through the wall while I have 3 graverobbers and 2 regular kebings attacking... ugh nightmaressssss. &gt;_&lt; (luminous tomb, for the record)
As for enhancing, the idea isn't dumb, just the odds of breaking in the early stages needs to be looked at. ;D
-Don't kill me, please. *still cowering in fear*
imported_MyYing
08-24-2007, 07:08 AM
If you think a speedy Kebing is bad try having*Marlone bomb-rush you through a wall while you're lvling with your pt T.T...and then you get blamed for killing your pt ='(
Semaj
08-24-2007, 08:12 AM
i know right? shame on me for wanting an education and a job that pays well! but then again, im not 14 like most of the other players...
dorablue
08-24-2007, 08:29 AM
That's exactly why I want you on my side, Ying /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif