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RYUKofDEATH
05-20-2008, 02:04 AM
ok i am a lv 68 archer of teva and i have a few things to say i think that the archers do not have a fair shot i will explain


1.IN PVP
we are always killed because...fighters over power us+they can stun.mages bet us because we cant take mdmg for nutin+fear.and last but not least clerics can go forever sowe always die
2.PARTYS
fighter r the mian part cause they can take huge dmg with no prob and ppl got to have a protecter.mages 6x+ have a GREAT aoe and can kill really fast.clerics can heal so they r a givein
3.WE HAVE NO STONES
i am lv 68 and i have 105hp and 101sp fighters and clerics have 100+ at 5x idk about mages but i bet they have alot to
4.STUNS
i think we need a stun to mages and fighters got it and clerics dont need it where r we :(+we have bad cooltimes and r skills cost to much sp if u ask me


i know it is just 1 person talkin but i think we all agree somewhat if archer r so messed up can i ask without bein banned why do u even have them?????



server-teva
name-lilshiros
guild-KARMA
lv-6x
comeon ppl lets get the archers the fix they need

danenotdang
05-20-2008, 02:10 AM
Is this for us, class, or general discussion??

RYUKofDEATH
05-20-2008, 02:13 AM
just give what u think on topic ^^

Kraehe
05-20-2008, 02:13 AM
How about posting in the correct place?

RYUKofDEATH
05-20-2008, 02:15 AM
i play the game this is first time on this thing took me 10 min to fig out how to post ^^

kalone
05-20-2008, 02:20 AM
hahahahahahha lol.
Alright, us archers, we need a skill where it stuns, entangles, bleeds, poison and blind the enemy. This would balance the classes more I think.

RYUKofDEATH
05-20-2008, 02:23 AM
dont forget our stones lol ^^

kalone
05-20-2008, 02:56 AM
We should have some sort of math equation, so:

Amount of stones able to be carried = X

FighterX + MageX + ClericX = ArcherX

Advent_Cloud
05-20-2008, 04:01 AM
Mages have ALOT less stones than other classes >_>
My fighter, at level 30 would of had more stones than my level 79 mage if it didn't have the x2 stone carrier at the time >.>;

As for 'balancing' the archers, Outspark should make a skill where archers can use burning fire aoe ice arrows that hit every mob on the screen (with DoT), and then cast invinci on all party members, and heal every party member to max hp and casts a Tier4958340534 buff and entangles all the mobs on the archer's screen, oooh and and instantly kills all mages on the archer's screen, all in one skill O: I'm sure that'd make you happy :3


And~ If you're going to persist on posting in the wrong forum, atleast do it in your own server's forum =D

generaldave
05-20-2008, 09:35 AM
I agree with infy and would like to add that these archers posts are getting annoying. There seems to be a new one every other day, if not more. Also, I'm not sure about mage's stone situation, but I do know that archers got shafted on that one. Other than that, no one could have a better response than infinite.

Shadowic2
05-20-2008, 12:40 PM
We all are aware that the Archers have balance issues, as do some of the other classes. The Staff is aware of this, and so are the Developers. Hence why they are still working on ways to make it better. So just be patient and wait for the updates.

And as for the stone issue. The mages have low stones by design, the Archers stone capacity has been brought to the attention of SKiNG from his post last night, and they are going to look into it.

If you know how to use your archer well, you can be quite the force to reckon with. After seeing some of the Capped Archers, and getting my bum handed to me within 2 seconds flat, I now have the urge to cap my own Archer XD.

Archers are a different sort of DD than a Mage, so you can't really compare them. Archers specialize in DoT's and fast attacks. Plus they aren't as squishy.
Archers don't need a stun skill, they already have various attacks that cause periodic HP damage, which no other class has(except for a couple skills Mages have). They are the only class with skills that increase their attack rate, combine that with their DoTs and other skills, they are a force to be reckoned with.

Everyone wants their class to be perfect, with the perfect skills,and the perfect pvp abilities. But in reality, no class is perfect. Each class has its pros and its cons. The downs of each class are filled in by the strengths of other classes while in a party.

So yes, the archers have some issues that need to be tended to, and are being tended to, as well as all the issues with the other classes and the game itself. But as of right now, archers don't have it as bad as people keep complaining them to be. Just have fun and work with your flaws and make the best of it until more updates are put in place.

voron
05-20-2008, 02:50 PM
I love how the people who disagree with these statements aren't archers.

Advent_Cloud
05-20-2008, 09:59 PM
I love how the people who disagree with these statements aren't archers.

I love how the people who AGREE with these statements ARE archers. :3

voron
05-20-2008, 10:27 PM
I love how the people who AGREE with these statements ARE archers. :3

Oh right! They're the ones who use cash shop and charms ... I forgot about those guys

Yeah try talking to the ones who don't use cash shop ..

mikeming81
05-20-2008, 11:15 PM
remember that day when fiesta gave us that interesting fiesta shirt that everyone got and people were like man it takes up space so they just wore it..... thats cash shop and im pretty sure you wore it XD. so.... you actually did use cash shop..... you should say you never bought sparkcash that would sound better :D

Master_Blackhawk
05-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Well i think i'm pretty strong, is true about the PVP, fighters are better in pvp and the clerics are immortal. Anyway i still can kill a few fighters 79 in PvP, others dont die (no enough dmg for the huge HP) and others kill me >3

About the mages, i still dont know a 79 mage able to kill me :P but well are lot capped mages who actually dont use the PvP zones. isnt weird i win the duels without use a hp stone.

About the tankers in Pt, this depend of ur skill build, is true we used to be unnecessary in Parties, with the Mages with their Aoe's, i just build more End and use to Duo. That is what the Archers do now... The CD descrease helped a lot with this, my Def with Def T4 is 1200+

I'm agreed we need some kind of Stun.

And i didnt read the posts, but Shadowic. Archers are an Incomplete class. a fighter dont need to think about their build, if i'm not wrong some of them use just 2 stats End STR. I build 4. Clerics full STR, mages i'm not sure, but till lvl 60 are full int the most part of them.

I want a Machine Gun spell :D

Master_Blackhawk
05-21-2008, 12:20 AM
Archers don't need a stun skill, they already have various attacks that cause periodic HP damage, which no other class has(except for a couple skills Mages have).

Sorry the double post but i read this after the first one... Periodic HP Dmg dont kill clerics...

Mages & Fighters > Clerics. But i can kill mages and no the clerics. is obvious we need Stun.

They are the only class with skills that increase their attack rate

I dont use normal attacks, i dont use attack Rate spell. grind with Spells and PvP with Spells too. For me that spell is almost useless, only work in Phino for advoid the spam attacks.

graduss
05-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Marlone clan archers make one skill blocking ur moves.The one with the plant around you.Creators can add this skill to archers:)

monkeypoohead17
05-21-2008, 01:47 AM
cough*entagle?*

Kraehe
05-21-2008, 04:49 AM
And as for the stone issue. The mages have low stones by design, the Archers stone capacity has been brought to the attention of SKiNG from his post last night, and they are going to look into it.


So mages are supposed to have like over 100 stones less than other classes[real logical btw that fighters have more sp stones than mages - not] and they're destinied to restone after every 30 minutes?
*deletes her mage now*

konaseta
05-21-2008, 06:10 AM
So mages are supposed to have like over 100 stones less than other classes[real logical btw that fighters have more sp stones than mages - not] and they're destinied to restone after every 30 minutes?
*deletes her mage now*


she has a point there but the real focus for mages should be hp stones. we have our life tap skill for sp but its sits as useless on our own since we have next to nothing on hp stones to back it up. at lvl 55 my mages sp stones are 86 and my hp stones are 55 i think and i find that even without life tap i use twice as many hp stones as sp stones when grinding and i grind very carefully to try and not use stones which leaves me getting next to nothing in xp. and as for my archer finding parties is next to imposible. i do ok on my own but i run throught stones at a breakneck pace.

voron
05-21-2008, 06:28 AM
There shouldn't even be a stone capacity ..

Lazyman777
05-22-2008, 02:22 PM
I love how the people who AGREE with these statements ARE archers. :3

u are a superiorist

DEFINITION OF SUPERIORIST=ur better then everywhere and whoever disagrees with u is weird and not correct

Riezen
05-23-2008, 05:48 PM
lol u should put this archer forum

SeventhMagpie
05-24-2008, 04:48 AM
Yes you should.
There are many posts like this.
I don't happen to agree with alot of them.

Nyoro
05-24-2008, 11:54 AM
blah blah blah... seen this quite a million times... yeah stick it back in the archer section with the million other exact same threads please. I don't really complain big time, but i groan from time to time waiting for us to be fixed.