if your an enhancer vote pls

[zumoku]

T3 Enhancing
Costs a lot to enhance T3, but is an average pay of 2g really enough?
maybe, BUT....paying an average of 30$ to enhance and only getting paid 2g doesnt seem enough seeing how most lvl70+ people have at least 1gem, so me and this other guy (forgot his name but i will remember >.<) wants all enhancers to stick together and raise the prices to an average of 4-6g, maybe more :rolleyes: but only for T3 items because most T2 and definitly T1 item users are poor so im only picking on the T3 users ;) so i need votes and opinions from enhancers which will be helpful...also if the non-enhancers want to write their opinion it would also be grate, as long as noone get angry at me T_T
zumoku(an enhancer who was scammed a lot in the past(dont ask why -.-))

[SeventhMagpie]

I hate it when people complain about the 2g price.

One +9 T2 costs $25 -$30

[koreannuke]

T3 Enhancing
seeing how most lvl70+ people have at least 1gem,

Name 5 ppl who has 1 gem.

[zumoku]

Name 5 ppl who has 1 gem.

this is where that guy who i forgot his name comes in :P
just gonna find him on my friend list first when he gets online

[SeventhMagpie]

3 Gold. At the minumum.

[zumoku]

i really dont know why i put a maybe column

[zumoku]

3 Gold. At the minumum.

definitly the answer i was hoping for :D

[ashigakuda]

Name 5 ppl who has 1 gem.

kame
kame
kame
kame
kame




1gem-1gem..lmao
I'm randomish and bored (dont ask why, if you do, call me.....hehe jk)

[Kitta_Baby]

I have done enhancing and the cost for enhancing is not worth it in the long run. I charged 3g and they provide the stones (2g to guildies) but since the rate for actually enhancing has dropped(so many fails), I had to raise my prices to 4g and they provide the stones. Even that is not enough when you think about it. Paying $30 for 1 +9 item (t3 mind you) is just too costly.

So now I have kinda given up on enhancing. Sorry peeps but it's just not worth it.

[Mizuko85]

Ouch...really, no one to be blame here ._.
I would say around 2.5g-3g, but when I see how the success rate have been drop..sigh. I mean it's both pain for enhancers and the customers. Now on, I prefer saving money and just buy the already +9 stuff rather than using enhancing service. Too much to lose from both side.

[Kaiza]

Name 5 ppl who has 1 gem.

Lol there are plenty with gems haha. But I cant name them here. ^^

[zumoku]

-.- i wonder if im allowed to vote?

[Kieng]

Satu You spent 25 USD on me?

[Cheri_B]

Lol there are plenty with gems haha. But I cant name them here. ^^

doesn't really answer the question, does it?

[Kieng]

I can think of five.

[sayo.]

It probably should be raised, but there's no need to worry about it. Time will do so. I quit enhancing t3 for random guys. I could raise the price, but T2 is more profitable and i like to see the items succeed more. Altho i think i already reached my enhancing limit anyhow. Every enhancers must quit sometime ^^

[Kaiza]

doesn't really answer the question, does it?

In other it is. Because the intention of the question is only if there are 5 or more peope with gems. And yes there are already over 10 people with gems. Why else are good blue items sold for 40g?

And I dont care if enhance price raise. It can be 10g or 1 gem idc. :P I enhance myself my items. ^^

[zepheris]

OKies...

Finally you brought up the topic :)

OK, im sure everyone that has been caped or near cap has at least enough golds to spend.

For those who wants to know how many gems people have already...
Let me tell u :)

1 shinning = approx 5g
1 brave = approx 3g
1 md earing = approx 1-5g
1 blue = 15-50g
1 good gear = 1-4g
1 godly gear = 4-10g

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Everyday greens drops....
Everyday a godly gear is found....
Everyday after kiling a mob, you get drops....
Everyday people AOE in abyss...
Everyday people turns in quest....
Everyday people sell stuff for gold...
Everyday some people buy gold from gold spammers...
Everyday some people mine ores for gold...
Everyday people farm kq for silvers...
Everyday people farm kq for blues...
Everyday, every hour, every minute, every second, the TOTAL GOLD IN FIESTA INCREASES.
------------------------

Now I ask you...

"Is there a way to get rid of golds, gems, and silvers, and coppers in FIESTA?"

The only way ic is....

STONES, and buy from NPC....

And people hardly buy from NPC... they only buy stones...even so...
After you grind, and restone, you still make profit. <--- Now thats a keyterm.

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Guys... There is no limit to silvers income..
At low level you might think it is hard...
I was low level once, and i have nothing compar to you guys right now.
I work hard for mine, I left my PC on for 24/7. YES 24/7, selling stuff and buying stuff.
Right now.. you can just grind a bit, and get greens.. and there you go... its silver alrady.

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Soo here is why I started the INCREASE PRICE in ENHANCEMENT SERVICE

1. Gold = unlimited source of income
2. Enhance = pricely

I've done enough enhancements already and calculated..
Approximately:

33$ USD = 1 +9 T3 gear....

Okies.. if somone wants u to +9 3 gears..

1 = 33
2 = 66
3 = 99

Now.. to those people who say gold is hard to make.. I've calculated at lv 70+
This is how it goes..

Grind 1 hr on AOE = approx 200s+
Grind 1 hr and find greens = 300s+
Grind 1 hr and find ok green = 1g +
Grind 1 hr and find godly green = 3g+
Grind 1 hr and find blue rings = 4g+
Grind 1 hr and find blue weapon = 10g+

Now.. tell me....

How many gem holders out there?
If you ask me... i would just say... LOL MANY!!!!

Do you see the forum market? DO you see the prices of greens in uru? Do you see the price increase in low level towns? Do you really see the economy of FIESTA?

If you havnt, then go around and check, and look carefully...

Ok.. and for some things to think about...

Shinning ring of eld:

USe to be.. 700s
Increased to 1g
Increased to 2g
Increased to 3g
Now atm approx 4-5g

MD 222 earring..
1g
2g
3g
now.. people hardly sell it.

Legendary necklaces/heavenly:
400-600(THIS WAS VERY EXPENSIVE BEFORE)
Incrased to 2g+ now? ( JUST FOR A NECKLACE)

---------------------------------

OK so the thing is...

NO THESE ARE NOT VERY RARE...
The reason incrasement = bascially because of GOLD INCREASING in the game.

More gold = people will spend more

================

And there, i try to prove my point :)

Ok now.. to let enhancers know :)


IF YOU ENHANCE FOR 2g and UNDER!!! For T3 ITEMS...

I WILL BE YOUR CUSTOMER FOR LIFE!!!!
IF YOU ENHANCE 1x A WEEK AND HAS WAITING LISTS..
FILL ME UP FOR ALLLLLLL THE OPENS SLOTS!!!!
JUST ENHANCE FOR ME!!!!! NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!

YOU KNOW WHY???? U ARE BEING RIPPED :) UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE RIPPED :)
THEN JUST LET ME RIP YOU INSTEAD :)

I JUST HOPE YOU DONT RUIN YOUR LIFE OR YOUR PARENTS CREDIT CARDS.

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For those who vote NO...

LOL, :) I hope your a very rich person out there.. and hope you live on free source of income....

1... below 18
2... Retired
3... Bill Gates Related
==================

Now if you dont agree to the incrasement.. then DONT SHOUT that u want +9 stuffs and LF T3 enhancers, if your not willing to pay for the price :)

..I'm pretty sure that most of you do that and try to find like 2g and under bargain..
In which is Riping.. but.. ill just use another term this time.. (Very cheap)...

Soo... :P Too bad, but soon, 2g isnt going to be enough :)

Now.. dont complain why T3 enhancers or enhancers are no where to be find too :)

I was told that increasing price in enhancement = greedy..
But hopefully after reading all this.. we will understand who is the greedy one...

One who will spend real life money to help out..
Or one, who is only looking for cheap things and taking advantage of it.

Because really, REAL LIFE MONEY is not worth it for VIRTUAL MONEY.

[masterofflames]

ssshhhhhhhhh some of us r poor and like cheap enhancers :D

[Nyoro]

>.> most 70+ have a gem? ... i'm 68 and i only have 2g...

[shinataku02]

Now I ask you...

"Is there a way to get rid of golds, gems, and silvers, and coppers in FIESTA?"

The only way ic is....

STONES, and buy from NPC....

And people hardly buy from NPC... they only buy stones...even so...
After you grind, and restone, you still make profit. <--- Now thats a keyterm.

If Fiesta would implement a tax system for items bought in shops, it would even things out. Though, I think at first, people would just raise their prices to avoid losing profit, but it still results in a disappearance of money from the game, and once people were used to it, prices would even out.

Although, at level 38, to completely fill my HP and SP stones, it already costs almost 20s, and I go through stones fast. I don't make that much money, being a low level. I also never party. Usually I make a 2-5s profit after a few hours of grinding.

Then again, I'm not paying anyone to enhance anything for me, so it makes little difference to me. :p

[zepheris]

^^ Even for people making little profits.. this is how it works:

U = 5s
U + friend = 10s
U + Family = 50s
U + Freinds + Freind's Freinds = 100s
Friends + Friends + Freinds = 300s
THE WORLDS = ? :P GEMS?

Now do you get the point? :P

Its increasing every second :) hehehe

===============

For those who havnt make enough gold yet...

A big reason = U probably spend too much :)
Another = Have you ever invested into stuff?
And another keyfactore is... have you do your best and put everything into gold making?
My gold making = 24/7 sell stuff and buy stuff...
And if you havnt done that.. then its pretty reasonable you dont have much.

Now... think ^^

"If your a business person, you should know what I mean."

[ddmatrix]

LOL Nyo, no not everyone 70+ has 1 gem :P

It really depends how you play and how you spend your money :)

I have less than 1 gem, but still, i pay 4g for my enhancement. I have enhanced myself some T3 items, and euh... 4g instead of 33$ is quite a fair trade imo.

I agree with zeph, 2g is not good price for enhancer anymore. I rather have available enhancers for higher price than no enhancer for cheap price (i looked at the enhancer thread for teva and.... its sad, but even Seva is not doing it anymore... while the others in the list is: Out of service, RL crisis (maybe due to spending too much $$?) or just realized that enhancing for 2g is really really not a good deal.

[zumoku]

WOOT go Zepheris!!....sorry, when i made this forum i forgot your name :P and i didnt know you were female D:

[ddmatrix]

WOOT go Zepheris!!....sorry, when i made this forum i forgot your name :P and i didnt know you were female D:

LOL, you were refering to zeph at the first post??? The "forget HIS name" threw me off in my guess :P

[fibrizo4life]

since it drop really no other way except for charging cash to buy red and blue eyes for upgrading :O now is there?
so it would be really hard to upgrade without the eyes. prices really should change in matter of going up :P

[zumoku]

i bet that some people who voted 'no' are not enhancers...o well, the change will still happen soon somehow ;P

[GoldenWidow]

My prices are simple

T2 0-9 = 1.5g

T3 0-9 = 3g or more

People don't like it? They go to someone else, I always have business, my world keeps turning.

[Saiyori]

I agree, the prices should definitely go up. OR fiesta should make it cheaper in real money to enhance weapons. Either way, it needs to become fair to those who enhance. I don't enhance myself, but I know several who do, and I know what you mean. People need to quit ripping enhancers off, its just to costly not t pay them fairly. ;)

[zumoku]

anymore people gonna vote that havent voted yet???

[WongFu]

OKies...

Finally you brought up the topic :)

OK, im sure everyone that has been caped or near cap has at least enough golds to spend.

For those who wants to know how many gems people have already...
Let me tell u :)

1 shinning = approx 5g
1 brave = approx 3g
1 md earing = approx 1-5g
1 blue = 15-50g
1 good gear = 1-4g
1 godly gear = 4-10g

-------------------------------------

Everyday greens drops....
Everyday a godly gear is found....
Everyday after kiling a mob, you get drops....
Everyday people AOE in abyss...
Everyday people turns in quest....
Everyday people sell stuff for gold...
Everyday some people buy gold from gold spammers...
Everyday some people mine ores for gold...
Everyday people farm kq for silvers...
Everyday people farm kq for blues...
Everyday, every hour, every minute, every second, the TOTAL GOLD IN FIESTA INCREASES.
------------------------

Now I ask you...

"Is there a way to get rid of golds, gems, and silvers, and coppers in FIESTA?"

The only way ic is....

STONES, and buy from NPC....

And people hardly buy from NPC... they only buy stones...even so...
After you grind, and restone, you still make profit. <--- Now thats a keyterm.

-----------------
Guys... There is no limit to silvers income..
At low level you might think it is hard...
I was low level once, and i have nothing compar to you guys right now.
I work hard for mine, I left my PC on for 24/7. YES 24/7, selling stuff and buying stuff.
Right now.. you can just grind a bit, and get greens.. and there you go... its silver alrady.

-----------
Soo here is why I started the INCREASE PRICE in ENHANCEMENT SERVICE

1. Gold = unlimited source of income
2. Enhance = pricely

I've done enough enhancements already and calculated..
Approximately:

33$ USD = 1 +9 T3 gear....

Okies.. if somone wants u to +9 3 gears..

1 = 33
2 = 66
3 = 99

Now.. to those people who say gold is hard to make.. I've calculated at lv 70+
This is how it goes..

Grind 1 hr on AOE = approx 200s+
Grind 1 hr and find greens = 300s+
Grind 1 hr and find ok green = 1g +
Grind 1 hr and find godly green = 3g+
Grind 1 hr and find blue rings = 4g+
Grind 1 hr and find blue weapon = 10g+

Now.. tell me....

How many gem holders out there?
If you ask me... i would just say... LOL MANY!!!!

Do you see the forum market? DO you see the prices of greens in uru? Do you see the price increase in low level towns? Do you really see the economy of FIESTA?

If you havnt, then go around and check, and look carefully...

Ok.. and for some things to think about...

Shinning ring of eld:

USe to be.. 700s
Increased to 1g
Increased to 2g
Increased to 3g
Now atm approx 4-5g

MD 222 earring..
1g
2g
3g
now.. people hardly sell it.

Legendary necklaces/heavenly:
400-600(THIS WAS VERY EXPENSIVE BEFORE)
Incrased to 2g+ now? ( JUST FOR A NECKLACE)

---------------------------------

OK so the thing is...

NO THESE ARE NOT VERY RARE...
The reason incrasement = bascially because of GOLD INCREASING in the game.

More gold = people will spend more

================

And there, i try to prove my point :)

Ok now.. to let enhancers know :)


IF YOU ENHANCE FOR 2g and UNDER!!! For T3 ITEMS...

I WILL BE YOUR CUSTOMER FOR LIFE!!!!
IF YOU ENHANCE 1x A WEEK AND HAS WAITING LISTS..
FILL ME UP FOR ALLLLLLL THE OPENS SLOTS!!!!
JUST ENHANCE FOR ME!!!!! NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!

YOU KNOW WHY???? U ARE BEING RIPPED :) UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE RIPPED :)
THEN JUST LET ME RIP YOU INSTEAD :)

I JUST HOPE YOU DONT RUIN YOUR LIFE OR YOUR PARENTS CREDIT CARDS.

=============
For those who vote NO...

LOL, :) I hope your a very rich person out there.. and hope you live on free source of income....

1... below 18
2... Retired
3... Bill Gates Related
==================

Now if you dont agree to the incrasement.. then DONT SHOUT that u want +9 stuffs and LF T3 enhancers, if your not willing to pay for the price :)

..I'm pretty sure that most of you do that and try to find like 2g and under bargain..
In which is Riping.. but.. ill just use another term this time.. (Very cheap)...

Soo... :P Too bad, but soon, 2g isnt going to be enough :)

Now.. dont complain why T3 enhancers or enhancers are no where to be find too :)

I was told that increasing price in enhancement = greedy..
But hopefully after reading all this.. we will understand who is the greedy one...

One who will spend real life money to help out..
Or one, who is only looking for cheap things and taking advantage of it.

Because really, REAL LIFE MONEY is not worth it for VIRTUAL MONEY.

Thank you!!! I admit I was ripped off a few times but no more, I started charging 4g and even I think that's probably not enough anymore...sure there are new enhancers popping up and they are charging 2g and under, but I bet they probably kids living off of their parents, I doubt enhancing is even worth it anymore, I only enhance of a few people now and they have no probelms with my price, when you think of it about 35 dollars in real life is worth way more than gold in fiesta because people can't live off of fiesta gold compare to real life money, so next time please don't complain about prices being too high because when an enhancer enhances for you they are doing you a service by giving up real life money to give u a +9 weapon/armor if you dont think they should be well compensated for it then you don't need to get an enhanced weapon or armor, u can wear it like it is...especially since after u enhanced it u can sell it for a few times more than what u paid to get it enhanced

[zumoku]

we need more people that actually enhance to vote, come on everyone that hasnt seen this topic. read and vote NOW!!!:P

[maverick9123]

i think 3.5g or more (no more than 5g tho) its a fair price ...... for US ppl who are not RICH!! we don't have gems!.....and yes the price should be raised a bit ^^...btw ty enhancers for that GREAT! service.

[politoad]

no because i dont enhance i pay enhancer and i dont wanta pay more XD. + my weapons r T3

[klemzorz]

oi Zumoku...its klemz, what should I say now ha?
I still cant believe it.

[ScoobyDoo]

Lol this is back to the "power of afford something" from ppl in fiesta.

"Raising price must be balanced with ppl money[game money]"

From what I see in Teva server economy, 3g for enchance is almost reach the max limit.
My solution for enchancer is if u cant keep on market price [ppl wanted price at general] u better close ur enchance factory before u bankrupt in ur real life
but
for tough enchancer that can keep up on it, just keep go ahead.

and let me tell u something, ppl who has gem money can be count with single hand.
learn and study Teva economy condition :)

and one thing, Zepheris price list is ridiculous :) *peace
It gonna make a serious Inflation in Teva, maybe some ppl cant even afford hp/sp stone from NPC because Life is so hard in Teva.

"Lamborghini can produce supercars with high price, but in the end how many ppl can buy it..."

[ken10]

I agree, the prices should definitely go up. OR fiesta should make it cheaper in real money to enhance weapons. Either way, it needs to become fair to those who enhance. I don't enhance myself, but I know several who do, and I know what you mean. People need to quit ripping enhancers off, its just to costly not t pay them fairly. ;)

i agreed with this.
we cant blame they greedy about the high price from enhancers bcoz we should pay them with fair price too ingame. Enhancers wasted more irl money to enhance ur weapons and gears.
but about the price,enhancers lil bit hard to make a standart price[we talking about T3]. example,we all know if T3 atm cost arround 3g till 4g..but how about if Enhancer A have more popularity and friends?? Enhancer A will get more customer than Enhancer B,C,D,and etc. It will make Enhancer B,C,D,etc jealous bcoz they will get less customer than Enhancer A,then they will start to lower their price sooner or later to get attention from customers Enhancer A. right?
thats why now we all know and heard about another T3 enhancers with 2g - 2g 500s price ^^
u like it or not,that is the lowest price they can give. but i am sure,this type of enhancer ONLY "part time" a.k.a they will enhance if they have money irl atm,but if not,they will give up and wait until they have money and start to enhance again :)
and yeah,i agreed about 2g to make T3 +9 its not good deal LOL
we all know,we wasted more at Xirs zone [+6 till +9] like we need to wasted 8xirs to make up 1+ at Xirs zone. this is my worst experience,i wasted 24xirs to make +9 from +6 :( [24red and 24blue miles].

we cant blame the enhancers about their price if u think overpriced. better u find another enhancer who can make ur weapon +9 cheap^^
if not ready to pay and want the super cheap one but u cant find,then use +0 :) still good too LMAO

"Money by itself is not good or evil.Yet we all know many people do evil things for money.Many People are afraid that if you love money you will turn into a greedy person,which some people do.If u decide to become a rich person,you can also choose to be a good person who is rich and generous,but not foolish with money." :D

[Kaiza]

Since advertising is not allowed + Scams not supported by GMs prices will be raised. :P I would say 5g public and 3g private.

[GoldenWidow]

Since advertising is not allowed + Scams not supported by GMs prices will be raised. :P I would say 5g public and 3g private.

*Ahem*

Amen.

[redjumpsuitapparatus]

:D i know 5 enhancers who charges 2g :D :D :D :D :D :D 2 of them are ready to enhance my stuffs but i dont have a good item yet ._.

[ScoobyDoo]

Goddamit Frank please tell me xDDDDDDDD
BUDDY O Pal :D

[zumoku]

woooo!! I got 7g for enhancing to +9 :D