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Amariana_Everlasting
05-21-2008, 10:31 PM
I currently have a lvl 40 Neo that goes by the name ~misseria~ I seem to be having trouble in deciding which stats to grant for the best out come. I do plan on going rouge, assasin, and hopefully someday make it to shadow master. The main issue is that im runing in to lvl 30's who seem to have higher defence then me and I have a hard time lvling at decent rates without an aco. My states so far are 24 agi, 14 pow, 2 int, 3 men, and 3 wis.
Due to the fact that I rely strongly on my skills and mp i figured it would be wise to start investing some of my skill points in wis and int but i feel as though I am lacking in somthing vital.
Any assistance and advise in how to raise my Neo would be greatly appriciated. I Thank you for your time and hope to hear from you even if you think its a tip you find obviouse it never hurts to put it out there.
I sincerly hope you have a great day and are more then prosperouse in all your ventures.
Thanks again,
~misseria~

Minryu
05-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Pure AGI and some POW for shield, lol...

You could always buy a stat reset card in the SparkCash store. And try to use gear with +? and ?AP (Additional Points), they'll provide additional defense and additional attack from weapons. Once you become a Rogue at level 66, then is the best time to start investing some Xen Stones to enhance your gears to at least +4, to make it easier to AoE (Area of Effect dmg). Also, duoing with an aco or joining a party is the best way to level up. If you can find someone who can AoE for you, that works as well. I could add more, but I have stuff to do. Good luck!

Amariana_Everlasting
05-22-2008, 12:13 PM
Thanks and much love ^^

TML_Leaf
05-22-2008, 12:24 PM
I have a suggestion for you with your current stats.
-Stop adding power you have enough until lvl 90 something.
-Don't add anymore int as this is not needed
-add 1 more point to men to increase both crits by 2
-for the next 10 levels add to agi
-by the time you hit 50 you will be ok.

SilverTitan
05-22-2008, 05:59 PM
her pow is actually MORE than she will EVER need even as a shadow master xD


dont add wis because ur mp will increase by itself as u lvl up besides more wis= more mp pots needed to regenerate ur mp so u are back to where u started also it will take longer for u to regenerate mp while u sit

neos do not need any int whatsoever because we do not use magic based attacks like mages and acolytes

men doesnt make that much of a difference although it is useful wen u become a shadow master and fight another shadowmaster as u and shadowmaster B will be impossible to touch unless u hav some mentality in ur build

ur extra pow will make u miss out on alot of dodge but embrace it at least u can carry more pots now.

i suggest u start saving for better gears because u will need the extra defense to compensate for ur lack of dodge

also men is only useful to a neo for hit rate(accuracy) because every 7points of agi gives us more critical it may not be as good as men though.

i ono im no expert on builds just my 2cents :cool:

TML_Leaf
05-27-2008, 06:47 AM
her pow is actually MORE than she will EVER need even as a shadow master xD


dont add wis because ur mp will increase by itself as u lvl up besides more wis= more mp pots needed to regenerate ur mp so u are back to where u started also it will take longer for u to regenerate mp while u sit

neos do not need any int whatsoever because we do not use magic based attacks like mages and acolytes

men doesnt make that much of a difference although it is useful wen u become a shadow master and fight another shadowmaster as u and shadowmaster B will be impossible to touch unless u hav some mentality in ur build

ur extra pow will make u miss out on alot of dodge but embrace it at least u can carry more pots now.

i suggest u start saving for better gears because u will need the extra defense to compensate for ur lack of dodge

also men is only useful to a neo for hit rate(accuracy) because every 7points of agi gives us more critical it may not be as good as men though.

i ono im no expert on builds just my 2cents :cool:

Adding Men is a personal choice. One thing to keep in mind is that adding men to a total of 4 increases both skill crits and regular attack crits, adding to a total of 6 increase defence (slightly) and faster cast speed ie: spamming threaten. If you are going with agi/men/pow (enough power for shield) then try and keep the men at a number that is devisable by 4 and 6 (like 12 or 24) to get full benifits. I have 12 but will be adding more on the lvls divisable by 5 and 10.

Oreo4Snacks
05-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Adding Men is a personal choice. One thing to keep in mind is that adding men to a total of 4 increases both skill crits and regular attack crits, adding to a total of 6 increase defence (slightly) and faster cast speed ie: spamming threaten. If you are going with agi/men/pow (enough power for shield) then try and keep the men at a number that is devisable by 4 and 6 (like 12 or 24) to get full benifits. I have 12 but will be adding more on the lvls divisable by 5 and 10.

Just go up to 13 MEN and Stop.

TML_Leaf
05-27-2008, 08:08 AM
Just go up to 13 MEN and Stop.

Why stop at 13?

Amariana_Everlasting
05-27-2008, 04:08 PM
Thanx alot everyone youve been a great help

SilverTitan
05-27-2008, 04:35 PM
if u think about it all builds come down to the same thing (except for those with int, wis and sta)

wen adding men to increase skill spam speed its by very little and u miss out on alot of damage to make it noticeable so u end up doing the same damage.
example:

Neo A is lvl 48 and has lets say 21men which increases his skill spam speed by 10% but misses out on 7attack which is like 70damage. Neo A does 150 damage on pawkins

Neo B is lvl 48 with 51+3 agi and enough pow for shields (7). Neo B attacks with normal speed but Neo B does 220 damage.


attacking at 0.9 skills per second Neo A does 1650 damage in 10seconds

attacking at 1.0 skills per second Neo B does 2200 damage in 10seconds

Adding Men would only be useful at really high levels because at lvl 150+ a pure agi shadow master is IMPOSSIBLE to touch without his opponent having some men in his build for hit rate

If u are adding men for skill spam its not worth it. You will do ALOT less damage and are doing less damage per second.

this is just an example it might not be accurate but the point is correct having men in ur build for SKILL SPAM is NOT worth it. u will need alot of men which could hav been used on agi to improve dodge, attack speed, attack and criticals.


Again its just my two cents :cool:

Off-topic: WOOOOT I MADE MY 250th POST =D

Amariana_Everlasting
05-27-2008, 07:01 PM
and a very informative and usefull 2 cents indeed

TML_Leaf
05-28-2008, 04:49 AM
if u think about it all builds come down to the same thing (except for those with int, wis and sta)

wen adding men to increase skill spam speed its by very little and u miss out on alot of damage to make it noticeable so u end up doing the same damage.
example:

Neo A is lvl 48 and has lets say 21men which increases his skill spam speed by 10% but misses out on 7attack which is like 70damage. Neo A does 150 damage on pawkins

Neo B is lvl 48 with 51+3 agi and enough pow for shields (7). Neo B attacks with normal speed but Neo B does 220 damage.


attacking at 0.9 skills per second Neo A does 1650 damage in 10seconds

attacking at 1.0 skills per second Neo B does 2200 damage in 10seconds

Adding Men would only be useful at really high levels because at lvl 150+ a pure agi shadow master is IMPOSSIBLE to touch without his opponent having some men in his build for hit rate

If u are adding men for skill spam its not worth it. You will do ALOT less damage and are doing less damage per second.

this is just an example it might not be accurate but the point is correct having men in ur build for SKILL SPAM is NOT worth it. u will need alot of men which could hav been used on agi to improve dodge, attack speed, attack and criticals.


Again its just my two cents :cool:

Off-topic: WOOOOT I MADE MY 250th POST =D

I agree. I didn't add men until lvl 58 or so.. I had to do a stat reset because at 60 i added 4 points to sta instead of men.. so i reset put 12 into Men. A few reasons why i did this.. 1 as we all should know by now attack speed is bugged at .5seconds, you can't seem to get faster then that. even with a GM buff i was at .2 and was still going as fast as i was with .5. I may be doing less damage then some full agi neos but if i weave well i crit more and miss less. plus i use at +4 6ap dagger to make up some of the damage loss. even still with the crits added in it is probably close. Some high level rogues have 30+ men and some have none.