View Full Version : New Ideia For The Abyss Maps ^^
SandaimeHokage
05-26-2008, 12:18 PM
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I think that most of us already knows that the abyss maps are always full of people, cause the exp and drop rate is better. Is hard to get a free spot for aoe, BUT... i have an ideia http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/221.gif.
Its like this:
We could have a 2nd floor to the abyss maps, like Luminous Stone and Conceled Prison. And it wouldn't have to be a different floor. At some area of the map there would be a gate to the 2nd floor, and the 2nd floor would be EXACTLY like the 1st one http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/028.gif.
That way developers dont have to waste time creating new maps, they just use the already existing one http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/066.gif.
What do you all think of this? http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/030.gif
(hope the ideia gets to the developers http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/fox_emoticons-12.gif)
rukian421
05-26-2008, 12:21 PM
whts with the all the smilies
wannabeguyo
05-26-2008, 12:23 PM
holy crap, im stealing all your smileys, sounds good to me
iLoveless
05-26-2008, 01:36 PM
The Abyss isn't there for a friendly, "let's share the grinding spot" thing. It's for competition and that's why there's a PvP option to it. If you expand it... you'd see no one in actual maps and you become cave dwellers. o__o And then you'd see more of an inflation due to people getting a crazy amount of drops...
It's probably better to improve the normal playing fields and leave the Abyss maps to be "special". Such as lowering enemy HP and/or defense so that you are able to kill them faster and yield an overall better exp gain.
SandaimeHokage
05-26-2008, 08:04 PM
The Abyss isn't there for a friendly, "let's share the grinding spot" thing. It's for competition and that's why there's a PvP option to it. If you expand it... you'd see no one in actual maps and you become cave dwellers. o__o And then you'd see more of an inflation due to people getting a crazy amount of drops...
It's probably better to improve the normal playing fields and leave the Abyss maps to be "special". Such as lowering enemy HP and/or defense so that you are able to kill them faster and yield an overall better exp gain.
I dont agree at all with that.http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/msn_red_fox_smilies-14.gif
Yes is Pvp so we can do something about it, but its impossible if your soloing and a full party jumps on you. And I've seen parties vs parties to get control of a room, and while they're fighting more parties come and start fighting them too, then the chat window gets floaded with insults (i've seen this particular scene happends once and it wasn't pretty)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/msn_red_fox_smilies-05.gif
Thasmudyan
05-26-2008, 08:51 PM
I dont agree at all with that.http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/msn_red_fox_smilies-14.gif
Yes is Pvp so we can do something about it, but its impossible if your soloing and a full party jumps on you. And I've seen parties vs parties to get control of a room, and while they're fighting more parties come and start fighting them too, then the chat window gets floaded with insults (i've seen this particular scene happends once and it wasn't pretty)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll136/bitmaker/Emoticons/msn_red_fox_smilies-05.gif
That's the risk you take when choosing to fight in the Abyss, that your grinding session will be interrupted by people wanting to kill you to take your spot. That's the whole reason the Abyss is worth increased exp, increased drops, has high mob density, etc...
Take that risk away by adding more grinding room, and you basically invalidate all other maps even more than the Abysses already do. As it is now, you can grind in AEW/FoS etc. for safe exp that is slower, or risk the Abyss for the possibility of getting a room and the crazy fast exp that comes with it.
If anything, I think the Abyss exp is too unbalanced compared to other maps because it packs so many pathetically weak-hitting mobs into such small rooms, and then gives you an exp bonus when you AoE them all. People should have legitimate alternative options when grinding, not simply have one zone per level range that is "the spot" to go, leaving all other maps unused.
Kaomech
05-26-2008, 08:56 PM
Theres not enough rooms In abyss to accomodate all players...
Personally I prefer to grind in abyss... and will always drop any Parties that impose but then again im usually only in there with a competent party...
Slight advantage is 3 ppl i play with are usually sitting in the same room as me so we can talk to each other and decide which enemy to drop first...
iLoveless
05-26-2008, 09:18 PM
That's the risk you take when choosing to fight in the Abyss, that your grinding session will be interrupted by people wanting to kill you to take your spot. That's the whole reason the Abyss is worth increased exp, increased drops, has high mob density, etc...
Take that risk away by adding more grinding room, and you basically invalidate all other maps even more than the Abysses already do. As it is now, you can grind in AEW/FoS etc. for safe exp that is slower, or risk the Abyss for the possibility of getting a room and the crazy fast exp that comes with it.
If anything, I think the Abyss exp is too unbalanced compared to other maps because it packs so many pathetically weak-hitting mobs into such small rooms, and then gives you an exp bonus when you AoE them all. People should have legitimate alternative options when grinding, not simply have one zone per level range that is "the spot" to go, leaving all other maps unused.
Well said.
lordofthesick
05-26-2008, 11:55 PM
I would much rather see a reason to come out of the abyss rather then one to stay in longer. They are the best places to grind for many reasons, a good grinding spot is all well and fine but it severly cuts back on things to do in fiesta as nothing else really makes any progress like grinding in the abyss does. A better idea would be to add new maps in general to the game rather then making bigger abysses, compared to other MMOs fiesta online's game world is pretty small
I would much rather see more areas for all lvls just to give the game more options of where to go and what to grind. Idk about you guys but a few hours in the abyss solo or in a pt makes my brain feel like its melting
SandaimeHokage
05-27-2008, 04:36 AM
That's the risk you take when choosing to fight in the Abyss, that your grinding session will be interrupted by people wanting to kill you to take your spot. That's the whole reason the Abyss is worth increased exp, increased drops, has high mob density, etc...
Take that risk away by adding more grinding room, and you basically invalidate all other maps even more than the Abysses already do. As it is now, you can grind in AEW/FoS etc. for safe exp that is slower, or risk the Abyss for the possibility of getting a room and the crazy fast exp that comes with it.
If anything, I think the Abyss exp is too unbalanced compared to other maps because it packs so many pathetically weak-hitting mobs into such small rooms, and then gives you an exp bonus when you AoE them all. People should have legitimate alternative options when grinding, not simply have one zone per level range that is "the spot" to go, leaving all other maps unused.
Well thats your opinion, but I dont think like that.
My opinion is that there is too many people, then the abyss would just become full of people fighting over a spot, ok I agree to make a stand to keep a spot from time to time, but not ALWAYS. It seems that that the abyss has become just a Pvp area, and the grinding part is mostly gone.
SeventhMagpie
05-27-2008, 07:31 AM
They can't make it too easy for us to level, or we'd all cap and then quit the game.