Improve your Fiesta experiance!

[DancingSimmer]

Welcome to the Fiesta University of Bijou!
All information will now be on the website at www.fiestauniv.forumarena.com

Due to the fact I can't keep switching from site to site and topic to topic, I am not going to update this topic anymore. I will only update the website here: www.fiestauniv.forumarena.com Thank you!

Sorry! But, let me tell you a bit about this first.

F.U.B. is a online, ingame school where you sign up for a class designed for either Mages, Archers, Fighters, Clerics, Specialization, or Ingame Safety. You can meet new people and learn a lot of new things. Feel free to sign up for instructor positions too! Visit the site above for more information. Thank you![/

[Asmodejjj]

PM'ed you..............this is a bump ;)

[DancingSimmer]

PM'ed you..............this is a bump ;)
Thank you! I sent you a reply.

[zues8844]

40+ for a beginning instructor? I definetely think you could lower both by 10 levels.........

[DancingSimmer]

40+ for a beginning instructor? I definetely think you could lower both by 10 levels.........
You know what? That's actually not a bad idea. I'll discuss it with my other instructor and talk about reworking the requirements.

EDIT: I changed the requirements.

[milkncookies]

man... classes...

wish i had those when i was level 1.

then i wouldnt have made that nub mistake of +6 to int when i was level 6.

dang it.

[DancingSimmer]

man... classes...

wish i had those when i was level 1.

then i wouldnt have made that nub mistake of +6 to int when i was level 6.

dang it.
lol, don't we all? That's sort of the reason why I wanted to start this.

EDIT: We now have 3 classes to choose from.

[FatalLace]

40+ for a beginning instructor? I definetely think you could lower both by 10 levels.........

actually i think having an "instructor" of a somewhat high level may be most beneficial to a new student. i think the overall idea for this is fantastic btw.

the reason i think instructors should be 60+ is that they've now seen the majority of the game on through the 2nd job change. an instructor in their 30s-40s has not seen enough of the game, IMO.

especially when working with free stats and empowerments, having this extra bit of experience is critical. for instance, if you consider the mage class, a somewhat inexperienced mid-level mage instructor may advise the student to empower skills that may not be totally necessary late in the game instead of saving points for inferno and frost nova. or for a fighter to waste all empowerment points before acquiring devastate.

just giving a word of caution. again, i think this is a great idea, but just be wary of what some of the implications are, especially when there is a variety of builds within each class.

i'll support u guys 100%, but i don't have the time to actively participate.

[DancingSimmer]

actually i think having an "instructor" of a somewhat high level may be most beneficial to a new student. i think the overall idea for this is fantastic btw.

the reason i think instructors should be 60+ is that they've now seen the majority of the game on through the 2nd job change. an instructor in their 30s-40s has not seen enough of the game, IMO.

especially when working with free stats and empowerments, having this extra bit of experience is critical. for instance, if you consider the mage class, a somewhat inexperienced mid-level mage instructor may advise the student to empower skills that may not be totally necessary late in the game instead of saving points for inferno and frost nova. or for a fighter to waste all empowerment points before acquiring devastate.

just giving a word of caution. again, i think this is a great idea, but just be wary of what some of the implications are, especially when there is a variety of builds within each class.

i'll support u guys 100%, but i don't have the time to actively participate.
Thank you, FatalLace. You have a very good point. I'll consider your suggestion and talk about it with the current instructors. Thank you, again.

[hyutten]

actually i think having an "instructor" of a somewhat high level may be most beneficial to a new student. i think the overall idea for this is fantastic btw.

the reason i think instructors should be 60+ is that they've now seen the majority of the game on through the 2nd job change. an instructor in their 30s-40s has not seen enough of the game, IMO.

especially when working with free stats and empowerments, having this extra bit of experience is critical. for instance, if you consider the mage class, a somewhat inexperienced mid-level mage instructor may advise the student to empower skills that may not be totally necessary late in the game instead of saving points for inferno and frost nova. or for a fighter to waste all empowerment points before acquiring devastate.

just giving a word of caution. again, i think this is a great idea, but just be wary of what some of the implications are, especially when there is a variety of builds within each class.

i'll support u guys 100%, but i don't have the time to actively participate.

I don't see it as important on undergoing your second job change. Having overall experince with the game is more important. 40+ chacrecters have already gone from 1~29 so they'll do just as well as someone whos undergone their second job change, in my opinion.

[DancingSimmer]

Sorry, but I still agree with FatalLace.

EDIT: I added a CONTEST to the main post.

[Cherushi]

Woah woah~ this is definitely a good idea O.o! got to love unique ideas from people, but how exactly do you figure out if one is qualified to be an instructor Oo?

[FatalLace]

I don't see it as important on undergoing your second job change. Having overall experince with the game is more important. 40+ chacrecters have already gone from 1~29 so they'll do just as well as someone whos undergone their second job change, in my opinion.

while i will agree that a 40+ player is somewhat skilled, they're technically only half way thru at this point. the mid 40-79 skills are hugely important and should be experienced before giving too much advice to a player just starting out. many players cannot or will not buy a stat/empowerment reset scroll to correct/adjust anything.

example: "Seasoned veteran" level 50 mage doesn't advice NoobMage to save empowerment points from very early on so that @ 60 NoobMage will have enough empowerment points to max duration on Fear, max damage and cooldown on Frost Nova, and still keeping in mind saving points for maxing cooldown on Inferno @ 67.

the learning path seems to be sectioned off from low level to mid to high. though i think all the instructors need to be on the same page and advising similar things or atleast be open to each other's build styles. take clerics for example: what if Instructor A is a Solo Cleric build in-game, Instructor B is a full Support, and Instructor C is somewhere in the middle. stat point distribution will be extremely varied between Str/Spr/End and empowerments will also vary with the soloist build focused on Bash Empowerments as well as the conventional Heal/Rejuv/etc empowerments. NoobCleric will be confused going from instructor to instructor as their advice may contradict each other.

[Raesho]

man... classes...

wish i had those when i was level 1.

then i wouldnt have made that nub mistake of +6 to int when i was level 6.

dang it.

nice mormo.we all made that mistake :D.btw did u wanna be an inteligence fighter by adding int wahahah....

IGN : Dororo - 60+ fighter
Proud Admin Of Jalur_Gemilang

[milkncookies]

eh. it wasnt an intelligence fighter nonsense.

i was in FoT killing slimes when this mage shouted "MAKE YOUR CHARACTER POWERFUL TODAY! ADD YOUR STATS TO INT!!!"

and so i did.

haw-haw.

[eiffenheart]

Wow, so there was an association that helps noobs in fiesta. I mean newbs.

I'm really new to the game, but Namico helped me, don't know if she's a part of this group. :3

Anyways, good luck, guys. Nice idea, DancingSimmer.

[CristoPT]

I find this idea very interesting and honorable and I really wish the best to you guys.
I can't actively participate, but if you need to ask me something, pm any of my chars and I'll try to help if I can.

[DancingSimmer]

Woah woah~ this is definitely a good idea O.o! got to love unique ideas from people, but how exactly do you figure out if one is qualified to be an instructor Oo?
As of rigth now, I am asking trustworthy, qualified people I already know.

[Asmodejjj]

Disagree with FataLace............

By lvl 70, your mages will have forgotten when they put what stats into what class...........I don't understand how a lvl 60 cleric is a better teacher for 1-19 people than a lvl 30-40 cleric. He'll be much closer to their level, which would reduce the pressure, and still remember everything the lvl 60's and above have forgotten.

[Applepod]

I think this is a very nice idea. Hopefully it can work.

[DancingSimmer]

I think this is a very nice idea. Hopefully it can work.
Thank you, Applepod. We hope so too! :)

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[FatalLace]

Disagree with FataLace............

By lvl 70, your mages will have forgotten when they put what stats into what class...........I don't understand how a lvl 60 cleric is a better teacher for 1-19 people than a lvl 30-40 cleric. He'll be much closer to their level, which would reduce the pressure, and still remember everything the lvl 60's and above have forgotten.

as someone who leveled a cleric to 50 before my mage was even in her 20s, i can see your point about clerics. cleric builds/empowerments don't vary too much unless u primarily solo (with damage/cd empowerments to Bash). cleric empowerments are pretty straight forward early on.

i guess in the eyes of a mage i'm looking long term for NoobMage. many of the 70+ mages will even dispute what was advised in the stickied "Maiya's (Teva) Guide - Mage Build" http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28029 as this was written before the 2nd job change was available. there's also a guide written by Bijou's PhoenixICE for levels 60-79 http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73885. The two guides do not mesh. if one were to follow the advice of the Maiya guide, they would be ill equipped to empower their best skills when they received them.

i've recently leveled a fighter into her 40s. through the eyes of a new player, i was extremely anxious to use up my empowerment points as i acquired them to see what their affects will be. however, following advice from high leveled friends, i saved every empowerment point from 1-20 instead of wasting them on stuff like Stun-Duration.

again, as much as possible i'd like to prevent myself from having to buy stat/empowerment reset scrolls.



** Edit: additional thoughts
i guess i would rather know the final empowerments of a high leveled (60+) player so i can save/build toward that rather than a player in their 30s. even at level 60, you've only got 30 points to play with, every point is critical.

if the idea behind the low level course is just to teach basic in-game mechanics (partying, basic strategies, ettiquete, etc) then i have no problem with anyone of any level running the class. build advice, on the other hand, i would leave to someone else. even then, it's player preference.

[CristoPT]

For clerics it's more simple, since you can do the best skill empowerments easily. I haven't changed a sole skill point in cleric and it was my first char.
As for stats, advice is recommended. I put 2 points in INT at beginning because I thought Bash was magical damage. I also put 6 points in STR which I removed in 7x when I stopped soloing.
In most cases I think higher levels will be able to teach better (most experience). But people who are closer to their levels will also know what to expect from what's around them.
I've been playing on my mage and everything changed so much back when i was the same level with my cleric.

[DancingSimmer]

I have updated all of the level requirements. Please expect these to change:
Beginner Classes: 1 through 29
Advanced Classes: 20 through 35
Beginner Instructor: 42+
Advanced Instructor: 50+
Specialization Instructor: 45+
There are NO requirements for Specialization Classes at this time.

Remember, these requirements will change in the future. Thank you.

[Asmodejjj]

i've recently leveled a fighter into her 40s. through the eyes of a new player, i was extremely anxious to use up my empowerment points as i acquired them to see what their affects will be. however, following advice from high leveled friends, i saved every empowerment point from 1-20 instead of wasting them on stuff like Stun-Duration.

again, as much as possible i'd like to prevent myself from having to buy stat/empowerment reset scrolls.





Now, I don't think we should be allowed to tell them exactly what their Skill Empowerment points should go into, unless we know exactly the type of person they are. It depends on whether the cleric is solo or a partier (difference of where stat points go), or whether a mage prefers this spell or that............I honestly don't believe we should tell them what to do. Walk them through the basics and explain everything, but definitely not lay down rules in stone.

[zues8844]

You know what? That's actually not a bad idea. I'll discuss it with my other instructor and talk about reworking the requirements.

EDIT: I changed the requirements.


What Fatallace said is true, lvl 60+'s DO know where to put empowerment points, but then again so can everyone who's read Fiestawiki. I believe I could train guys from levels 1-19 as well as any other person. You only have the basic spells and only get enough empowerment points for the basic spells you have. As long as they do what you say, and you know what you're talking about, lvl 30+'s could coach them, and lvl 42+'s could teach them from 20-30.

[clancykid060]

omg i love this idea! im new (lvl 17 fighter) so this would deffinately give me a boost because im always asking myself: what are skill points and all.

(please give me rep for no reason at all lol. this is not begging :P)

[Cherushi]

(please give me rep for no reason at all lol. this is not begging :P)

... lol? x.x

[FatalLace]

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Is there a name for this school? Or do the designers have control over this o_Oa

[DancingSimmer]

Is there a name for this school? Or do the designers have control over this o_Oa
Hmm, not sure. I haven't thought of a name. So, I guess the designers can create one.

[DancingSimmer]

Sorry to bump, but please remember the Graphics design contest if you're still entering. :)

EDIT: I am now officially announcing that if all goes well with the first semester (which currently has NO registrations! :( People, sign up!), we will expand onto the Teva server.

EDIT: We now have a name! Fiesta University of Bijou (or FUB).

[DancingSimmer]

Sorry to double post, but our service now has a website at www.fiestauniv.forumarena.com

Also, if all goes well in Bijou, we'll expand onto the Teva server.

[FatalLace]

aww i had Bijou Prepatory Academy lol >.< FUB's good too =)

[DancingSimmer]

lol I am getting ready to post on Teva.

[Kealm]

XD Where was all this when i was lvling T.T

Oh well if you need help with the Archer class i'm your man. I have insight for all three of the predominant builds with their advantages and disadvantages. I wouldn't mind a slack in grinding. Ok i'll send the pm now to make it official lmao.

[DancingSimmer]

Due to the fact I can't keep switching from site to site and topic to topic, I am not going to update this topic anymore. I will only update the website here: www.fiestauniv.forumarena.com Thank you!

[DancingSimmer]

We are finally recieving our first sign ups, please remember to get your registration forms filled out by June 11th or you may not participate in the classes. Thank you!