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MissusDolly
06-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Dolly might post this... um... tomorrow. o.o

Note 1: Levels 41-60: Recommendations on what skills to increase. ;D Any tips you have are also great! Post them here or message me. All acknowledgment will be given unless you wish it not to be given.

Looking for:
*What should be empowered. (Kinda set ;3)
*Tips for level 41-60 archers only!
*Good places to train for levels 41-60 only!
*Anything else that is useful towards this section of archers!

=.= The below section is not as important as it once was for reasons I feel like not stating at the moment, but I have to put another guide on hold so I can keep focus on the current one. (Read if you are getting pictures):
I'm thinking about making a small guide this only! At this time pictures are not needed, but still they are welcomed!

I am looking for a level 20 picture, level 40 picture, level 50, level 60, and level 70. All pictures must be clear. As large as mine are in my signature or larger. Must be full bodied and action shots are most welcomed, but try to get a clear shot of the skill you are using and not to make it too distracting. Message me your screenies that you have.

Level 20 Archer;Bow;Crossbow
Level 40 Archer;Crossbow
Level 50 Archer;Crossbow
Level 60 Archer;Crossbow

Send this with your screenies of archers: (Clear and have nothing surrounding it. Names off and be in a clear area with the armour not blending too much with the background.)

In-game name:
Level:
Screenies:
Other: (If you want to put a comment?)
Anonymous: Yes or No
If No, why not?: (Optional, but I'd like to know why.)

Weapon picture form: (Must be clear and up close! Basically, so I can use them to separate different sections.)

In-game name:
Level:
Enhancement Level:
Screenies:
Anonymous: Yes or No
If No, why not?: (Optional, but I'd like to know why.)


Acknowledgment given to all screenies unless stated otherwise!

Basic outline of the new companion guide:

Introduction ■
Review ■
Key Terms ■/♪
Levels 21-30 ■
Levels 31-40 ■
Levels 41-50 ■
Levels 51-60 ♪
Level 60: Job Change Quest ■
Tips & Tricks ■
Final Notes ■/♪
Acknowledgements ■/♪
Reserved
Reserved

Key:
■=Finished
□=Unfinished
♪=Working on.
□/♪=Semi-working on.
■/♪=Never Done/Incomplete until Publication

Name picked--> Archerology 101: Archer's Step Up

Thanks guys!
-Dolly

KanesAssassin
06-02-2008, 10:06 PM
*pokes my first guide* Basically my first guide is nearing completion even if it will be always updated it basically is done. So with that being said. Would you guys appreciate a companion guide that will help you through levels 21-60?

If you are for it, why? Would you be able to help? Would you use it?

If are not for it, why? What would be so bad about having a 2nd guide?

I am also going to be looking for people that can help me write it up. You'd just have to write a small section of it, so like let's say you want to help I would assign you let's say level 30 because that is what level you are. Unless you ask not to have that level that would be the level section you would be writing.

I will be revising anything that anyone writes. If you want to help, but not write a section you could send me bits and pieces of information.

All stuff written or sent will be acknowledged! I don't like leaving names out from those that have helped.

Basic outline of the new companion guide:

Introduction
Review
Levels 21-30
Levels 31-40
Levels 41-50
Levels 51-60
Level 60: Job Change Quest
Final Notes
Acknowledgements
Reserved
Reserved

(This probably won't be the next guide.)

I'm also thinking of names for the guide: Archer's Next Step, A Guide to Success Pt. 2, etc. If you can think of something better that would also be a great way to contribute to the thread!

Thanks guys!
-Dolly

Sounds like a very good idea, at least something that goes throu how to do the lvl 60 job change. For each ten levels tell them the best places to train, tips with empowering skills perhaps. I can't say I'd be good for writing things though, I spent my days leveling in so many different places with so many different parties and suhc I wouldn't know what to put! As for name.....how about Journey to becoming a Scout!
I'm really tired, so apologies for any mistakes I didn't see, and props to you for the work you've done already!

MissusDolly
06-02-2008, 10:09 PM
Sounds like a very good idea, at least something that goes throu how to do the lvl 60 job change. For each ten levels tell them the best places to train, tips with empowering skills perhaps. I can't say I'd be good for writing things though, I spent my days leveling in so many different places with so many different parties and suhc I wouldn't know what to put! As for name.....how about Journey to becoming a Scout!
I'm really tired, so apologies for any mistakes I didn't see, and props to you for the work you've done already!

Wow that was a quick reply. Thought I'd have to wait a day or two for a reply. xD

Thanks for your support! Bringing success to the archer is what I'm trying to do even if we are a little unbalanced. ^^

Thanks the tips, I will do my best!
-Dolly

KanesAssassin
06-02-2008, 10:43 PM
Oh before I pass out, one other thing you might consider, perhaps some tips on making/keeping enough money to get by, especially for the lvl 20-30 archers, probably a little too extra, but its a thought, I certainly remember being in that situation, though that was probably because I spent all my money trying to get good equips, then busting them in enhancement failures, that wasn't the smartest I've done. I really think that selling alchemy stones for a quicksilver or too can be a good thing for them, as long as they are taught to only do it if they absolutely must, and only a very small amount. Probably oughta tell them not to pull a me and waste money trying to enhance a weapon on your own too...so they don't have to waste fame.
Once again, Best of Luck!!

mavricgabriel
06-03-2008, 12:24 AM
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42541


first of, i would like to thank you dolly for contributing your time in helping out the archer community.

this is a link to where the lvl 60 job change guide. It includes all classes and techniques and methods in succeeding.

I have recently experienced the job change where in its very easy for us coz of the fact that the monsters there where alll green to me. I only have T3 scrolls on (no endure buff & normal green weapons and gears:D) and 50 pcs of T3 hp pots and full HP stones.

enjoy:D and good luck in making another guide

editted: in addition, we all know that archers dont make that much money when not paired with a cleric so for levels 30s-50s, the best way to lvl up and make good earnings is to go solo or party in abyss zones. Easy to kill mobs and lots of drops. They even drop rare T2 learning scrolls. And since in the lvl 60s are less quests are given, i suggest that they should maximize their own production skills (specially decomposition) where in in the higher levels, lots of T3 and T4 materials are very common.:D

RyaikenDune
06-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Dolly,
If you write it. I'll read it.
End of story.

BTW..I'd be more than happy to help in any way I can.

Strang3r
06-03-2008, 01:29 AM
Great idea! I've done one small guide for lvls 60-64 but I don't think that should be included under here lol. But anyway, I might be able to help for section 51-60. I'll see how it goes...

AcerSnipes
06-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Dolly your are my Jesus
your guide was amazing and its helped me so much *looks back to lvl 1*even though ive out grown it (38 :P)
i still look to it for advice >^.^<
another one would be great
i need some help nowadays and this would aid me in my archer life

GO FOR IT

DeathPyres
06-03-2008, 11:10 AM
Please do. :]

I'm sure there are a lot of players who could surely use a guide, eh?

I'll try to help you with editing and such, if you please. :D

mysty2
06-03-2008, 02:09 PM
I can help with levl 20 but the moster mite be to hard sins my main was spost to be my archer but I likeed my fighter so much I made her my new main I how you let me help and I hope the monsters arent to hard for an archer ok so I can do levls 20 to 23 but I am best at levl 23 so I will do that part if you let me

zackthed
06-03-2008, 02:27 PM
it would be realy awsome if u did make a guild like that, im sure a gm, csr, or cl would make it a sticky if u did

MissusDolly
06-03-2008, 04:02 PM
You guys sometimes praise me too highly. xD *tries to not let it get to her head* I write them for joo all and for myself mainly. :P I like to learn! Anyways, thanks for the link! That will be super helpful. >D When I make it all links related to 21-60 are going there because it will make it chronologically correct.

<---Has AP projects to do over the summer... D: I will get it done though!

Again thanks for all your guys support. Without you all I would have probably passed onto another game. :P You guys rawk!
-Dolly

AcerSnipes
06-03-2008, 08:47 PM
<------AP english sucks stupid books

MissusDolly
06-03-2008, 10:19 PM
I agree. xD I also am taking AP U.S. History. I wanted to take AP Biology, but Physics sounded cooler for my junior year and two AP classes is enough because that will prepare me for my future 4 AP classes I hope. xD

Basically I think I got my schedule down for the summer---> Do the 75 notecards the first 2 or 3 days; word maps the next two days, highlight and half notes the next day, rest of highlight and notes next day, fill out questions next day, take test in one day, do essays the next 2 to 3 days.
Then I'm not sure on my history because I haven't gotten it yet. So somewhere in that mess I have to fit a trip down to Michigan (I'm driving. D:), clean out my grandpa's house, work on this guide, level, then when I come back getting up at 6 everyday to ride, birthday party the 27, building one acre pastures, finishing arena, training my filly who is two, and ummm probably a ton of other stuff that comes my way. Oh yeah almost forgot about my piggy which I'm picking up Saturday, my cow which I'm getting in July maybe, and my breeder piggy which I'm breeding sometime in July. :P

I r a busy person. >D

Don't worry though. :D I have amazing grades, has amazing time management skills, etc. ;D
-Dolly

enishi24
06-03-2008, 10:29 PM
wow ur really a busy person dolly.... must be very hard for u :( :(

MissusDolly
06-03-2008, 10:54 PM
wow ur really a busy person dolly.... must be very hard for u :( :(

Actually I surprise myself sometimes with the work I do. xD I could have 50 projects going and somehow they all manage to get done. Some better then others, but my top five things at the moment are:

1. Finals!!!!! OMG yes tomorrow!
2. Driving Test
3. AP English/AP US History
4. Riding my Horses
5. Working on Fiesta Guide

Though it may be last on my list it still is up there and will be bumped up after Thursday to 3. :3
-Dolly

enishi24
06-03-2008, 11:00 PM
u dont play fiesta ?? just do guide ?? :confused: :confused:

mavricgabriel
06-04-2008, 02:57 AM
AWMAHGAWD!!! just seeing what you've planned out makes my head hurts:eek:

anyway, i'll help out when i can from my playing experience so that it would take a tinsie winsie ounce of pressure off you:D

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-04-2008, 11:57 AM
I wont be able ot help much... but i will help if i can...

MissusDolly
06-04-2008, 02:01 PM
u dont play fiesta ?? just do guide ?? :confused: :confused:

I do play fiesta. :3 Just not that much. xD The guide=mucho importante


AWMAHGAWD!!! just seeing what you've planned out makes my head hurts:eek:

anyway, i'll help out when i can from my playing experience so that it would take a tinsie winsie ounce of pressure off you:D
:D Thankies! I actually can take something off my list. AP History isn't having a summer project. >D Wewt!


I wont be able ot help much... but i will help if i can...

Thanks a bunch. Any help at all helps me out a bunch. xD

Delphy will start to work on this guide the day that she arrives in Michigan. From there on she will work by a very strict schedule. Her plan is to have 5 levels done from each section before attempting to post at all.

I like to give you guys an insight of where I am as of now and what work I have to do. xD Also helps me organize my thoughts better. :D
-Dolly

iscareppl860
06-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Hi dolly its me your biggest fan (yes i took a vote on it and i am!!!) EveningWear (about to be SweenyTodd, messed up on empowerments.).

I just want to say that if you need any help from a low lvl im here ^^. Also ill read your guide probly 50 times!!!

MissusDolly
06-04-2008, 02:52 PM
*Is crushed by fans* D: Ca..nn..'t... bre..athe... to..o ...ma...ny... fa..ns....x.X j/k
Love you guys. ;D

Levels I'll probably need help with the most are levels 21-35 and levels 51-60 because 21-35=Delphy has forgotten most of it and levels 51-60=Delphy is just plain clueless. xD
-Dolly

zackthed
06-05-2008, 12:24 PM
companion guide FTW

MissusDolly
06-05-2008, 01:54 PM
Okay since it seems to be a go. I will begin writing it the day I arrive in Michigan so that is approximately in 3 to 4 days. I will begin writing the introduction part after my driver's test today which will be in 3 to 4 hours. Then when I arrive I will begin in chronological order starting with levels 21-25 the first day, then I will move on to levels 26-30, etc. 5 levels per day. Most likely will be very rough and written in a different style versus the way I wrote levels 1-20.
-Dolly

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-05-2008, 02:02 PM
ill be happy to help up to 27... ask me any questions and i will try to answer them to the best opf my knoledge...

MissusDolly
06-05-2008, 02:17 PM
:D That's great cause level 21-30 = fuzzy. xD

MissusDolly
06-05-2008, 06:28 PM
So I'm tossing name ideas around at the moment. I have thus far: Archerology: A Guide to Success pt. 2, Archer's Next Step, Archer 113: A Guide to Success pt. 2, Archer's Step to Success, or Archer Guide to Levels 21-60.

>.> If you guys have any better names, suggest away! If you like one of mine, speak up! I need to finalize the name now to start the guide. It is how my process works. xD I'm leaning towards Archerology: A Guide to Success pt 2. Don't let my opinion influence you though if you dislike it, say so! I want a name that pleases everyone. xD I'm trying to keep to a school-like theme, but I could go off of it. :3 (Archerology is not a real term, it is a term I made up. In other words my meaning for it is, the study of archery.)
-Dolly

Edit: Ideal Introduction, might change depending on what name gets chosen. xD

Welcome my fellow archers to your next class, Archerology 101. My name is Delphina and I shall be your teacher of this class. Today’s lesson will begin with a review of levels one to twenty. From there on we will research and study the next levels of an archer’s life. Throughout this class you will be taught many subjects, which include picking the right weapon, placing of empowerment and skill points, and many other important things you must understand in the study of archery or archers themselves. Now please remember to stay quiet while class is in session and when you reach level sixty you will be tested on all that you have learned. Now if you have forgotten the basics I recommend retaking Archer 101 or asking a student of Archer 101. I hope that you enjoy the class, now we shall proceed.

enishi24
06-05-2008, 07:03 PM
cool archerology :D

MissusDolly
06-06-2008, 05:21 PM
I think I'm going with Archerology 101: An Archer's Next Step. :D
-Dolly

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-06-2008, 05:44 PM
nice intro.. but i wont read it untill september!!~~(i dotn like school!)

I like the name too...

MissusDolly
06-06-2008, 05:48 PM
nice intro.. but i wont read it untill september!!~~(i dotn like school!)

I like the name too...

xD Yep I just got out today, but my school work never ends. D: Dang AP classes. I feel sorry for my friends who are taking AP Cal, AP US, and AP Language. >.> Some are taking AP Bio too! Sorry my junior year isn't too crazy. XD

Yep I believe the name is staying. xD

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-06-2008, 08:00 PM
when is it supposed to start???

MissusDolly
06-06-2008, 08:23 PM
I start building the levels for the guide on Monday Night or Tuesday Night. Finish in two weeks in which time I'll be back. :D
-Dolly

Valientes
06-07-2008, 12:42 AM
Yay! Me gusta mucho Archerology :D

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-07-2008, 07:42 AM
ok.. just pm me with questions from lvl 20-28

kalone
06-07-2008, 08:14 AM
I nominate Dolly for Archer of the month award.

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-08-2008, 09:10 AM
i second that

MissusDolly
06-09-2008, 07:57 PM
XD An award? I'm just happy to help! Woot I start building levels tomorrow. :D I arrived today in Michigan. xD
-Dolly

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-09-2008, 08:39 PM
you deserve it for your help around the smexy archer community

MissusDolly
06-11-2008, 02:07 PM
Updated with two new sections for the guide, Tips & Tricks and a Key Term section (this is a maybe). Also a note is included in the first post about levels 21-30 which I will start writing up tonight. I'm trying to figure out a fun way to write it up first. xD Also after I finish this first section I'll be getting pictures! :D (Another note listed in the first post).
-Dolly

RyaikenDune
06-12-2008, 11:05 AM
OMG YAY! New guide= awesome.
And they're right about you standing out in the archer forums.
While everyone else was complaining, you were making an awesome guide. =D.
Kudos.

BTW who voted no in the poll?

MissusDolly
06-12-2008, 01:03 PM
xD I did my fair share of complaining, but I knew the archers needed people to look up to. ^0^ And there the guides were inspired. After this you can all look forward to a level 61-150 guide. (Class name here): The Final Leap or something like that. >>. ;D It will be built as levels are added. I figure three installments is easier then 1 big one. >.<

And I have no idea who voted no. xD Oh well they lose, Dolly/Delphy is making it. *sticks tongue out at loser who voted no* :P

*dances* >D Delphy will begin assembling levels 21-30 tonight. Due to becoming a host of for an event of another game I've had to take a little time away from attending to this guide. I have lots of planning for the event, but the date to finish that is July 1. So that has set this one back a bit so I'm saying three weeks at the most to finish this one since I plan to get all the event stuff together by Friday. xD

Update on first post.

RyaikenDune
06-13-2008, 05:32 AM
Kewl. May I write a section on archer tanking? Lula's is only for like 60+ and was made before the December patch where archer's couldn't AoE- forget AoE tank.
And um...you forgot to reserve posts....uh oh..

EDIT:
1. Empowerment: This is the area where archers start to get specialized. For example, a primarily solo archer wants to focus on Cool Times and maybe SP Consumption. (Although I've never touched SP Consumption on any skill). A party archer needs to go Cool Times and Damage.
However, there are some things which are universally agreed on:
-A newly CCed Hawk archer should spend 5 stat points on MultiShot CD. (i.e 21-31). <---What I think you're looking for.
-Skill points from level 41-51 should be saved for Nature's Mist Cool Down.
The points from 31-41 can either go into:
-Venemous Shot's SP Consumption/Cool Down
-Multi Shot's Damage
-Saved for Nature's Mist's damage.

2. Pics. =D
Here's a picture of my level 30 archer.. http://i32.tinypic.com/i3yss5.jpg
The +6 thing kind of obscures the xbow but it's the best I've got.
I'll post a pic of my level 40 archer as soon as I make enough money to level the sucker from 39.

3. Good places to train: hmmmm...I got from 21-30 in 4 days. This was my basic training routene.

Ahem:

Note: Stay away from the quests in Luminous Stone 1 till level 23. These include Silver Slimes, Jewel Robbers, Skeletons, Mage Books, Punch Mage books, etc.
And stay far away from Marlone Quests till level 25.

Level 20:
-Do the Nature's Protection Quest (Archer's New Skill) pronto. It's good exp, good fame and you get a new skill as a reward
-Little Lizard men to collect SBL for Shield scrolls (You will need them throughout 2x)
-Smart Phinos and Kebbings. They are good for quests.
-Mara KQ. This is golden. Collect all your blessed lix and sell it for 1s.1.5s.
-Baby Bats. You will have to either kite or bring a cleric friend along.

Level 21:
-Still Mara KQ
-Do the Delivery Quests. They area an easy source of exp and money.
-After that, grind on Baby Bats and Gold Slimes in Burning hill. Be careful, the slimes hit hard. Either kite or bring a cleric friend along. Stay away from sand hill.

Level 22:
-Mara KQ
-Continue on Baby Bats and Gold Slimes in Burning Hill are your only options

Level 23:
-Start doing your Luminous Stone quests. You now have quite a few. Do them all at once and turn them in all at once. Remember to stay cautious. It is very easy to get mobbed in the interiors of Luminous Stone. Since you are questing, my advice is to bring an archer/mage/fighter friend along. Cleric is optional.

Level 24:
-M_A_R_A
-You now either have a very good cleric friend or you are a very adept kiter. Either of these will allow you to hold your own in Sand Hill. Battle Malone Megatons and Marlone Clan archers FTW and complete and new quests in Luminous Stone 1.

Level 25:
-Mara KQ still going strong
-The gathering quest is a pain but it is doable.
-You no longer have to kite Gold Slimes. You can skill spam on the spot and if you have a cleric friend with you, you can take as many as you wish in a row till your SP runs out.
-Marlone Megatons might get boring but it is a necessary evil.

Level 26:
-Your last Mara Level
-You can now Kite bats. But it requires extreme skill.
-You can also safely finish the Marlone Quests. However, do not attempt to beat the Marlone Clan Captains in Sand Hill without a party.
-Finish Marlone Clan's Greed Upto the quest where you have to kill Marlone. Then get a good party consisting of: A Fighter, You, One or Two Clerics and another Archer/Mage and start the secret Hideout Quests. Finally, Finish off Marlone to complete both quest sets. You will have reached level 27 or have gone on to 28.

Level 27:
-Your very first Gold Hill level. Try to stay up in front but avoid aggro.
-It is very possible to kite all three Sign or Crisis quets. Do so.
-Finish your other quests. It will get you to level 27. It did for me.

Level 28:
-If you can get to Luminous Stone 2 with out dying, then you can kite bats till the sun goes down.
-Remember to collect your 'Reach Level 30' quests from Shutain and the guard spearman.
-You might want to try Ice Vivis. They drop Summoned Beast leather and there's a quest for them too. Beware. They deal magic damage and can slow you down with their attacks.

Level 29:
-I kind of cheated here. I didn't do any of my quests =P. I was in a party with a level 30 tank, a level 29 DD fighter and my level 28 cleric friend. I would pull wolves and archons through the fence in Sand Hill, use Nature's Protection and the fighters would chain stun it dead. 150 exp per lure.
-For others, do the Symbol pieces quests
-You can now attempt to AoE bats in Luminous Stone 2. Don't go too far though!

4. I am now tired of typing.

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
06-13-2008, 11:01 AM
umm... if you have a good wep dont do mara after 24.. unless you need Mara/marlone for quest.. you steel aggro ALOT and it makes it impossible to tank the bosses. i klnow from experience on both sides...

jagrut
06-13-2008, 11:55 AM
ok guys...i read all the posts n i c tht there is no one who is doin the 30-40 part for archers...

i just hit 30 yest and today m 36... all i did was quests...the ones which i did were
1.skel knight:insane exp on completion
2.zombie master:almost lvled after this one. there are 2 of them with a total of over 150k exp n abt 15s n 300 fame if m correct
3.sand hill:archon n wolfs:tons of exp there n good money too. these will definately lvl u up..i ended up gettin like 5 weapons for mages n archers doin quests at sand hill n to add to tht got few dt n bl mq...so good outing...must do...its a little hard but should do it..its worth it..:)
4.the magic staff n flyin staff quest:good drops gets u all the dims u need...
5.there were a few others too...all gave me good exp n fame...with good money..

at lvl30 i had like 3s on me...n now i have over 100s with only doin quests n sellin my drops...:D

feel free to pm me if u have any doubts or if m wrong with some figures or stats...thanks

MissusDolly
06-13-2008, 01:49 PM
@.@ The 21-30 is very helpful. I'll just write it all together in my own style and add my own information. XD
-Dolly

RyaikenDune
06-13-2008, 11:58 PM
umm... if you have a good wep dont do mara after 24.. unless you need Mara/marlone for quest.. you steel aggro ALOT and it makes it impossible to tank the bosses. i klnow from experience on both sides...

Bah, I tanked Mara at level 24.

phantomzero94
06-14-2008, 01:16 AM
Oh before I pass out, one other thing you might consider, perhaps some tips on making/keeping enough money to get by, especially for the lvl 20-30 archers, probably a little too extra, but its a thought, I certainly remember being in that situation, though that was probably because I spent all my money trying to get good equips, then busting them in enhancement failures, that wasn't the smartest I've done. I really think that selling alchemy stones for a quicksilver or too can be a good thing for them, as long as they are taught to only do it if they absolutely must, and only a very small amount. Probably oughta tell them not to pull a me and waste money trying to enhance a weapon on your own too...so they don't have to waste fame.
Once again, Best of Luck!!

first of all Dolly,
i hope u can make ur new companion guide
and i suggest same as above
u should make a sectionb for our money side too
u know some of us are big spender and they dont know they are right/wrong
so pls make a money section
i also dunno should upgrade my weapon =P

phantomzero wrote

AuraWolf
06-14-2008, 02:13 AM
new guide :D .....

was pretty messed up myself in lvl20~60.....

so ill support yea....ask any question and ill try my best to help.....

and i like the name ^^ sounds cool and unique :D

RyaikenDune
06-14-2008, 02:39 AM
Ahem...list of free armour:

Level 30 Armour: Sign of Crisis 4--> Beat up Skeleton Knight. Level 30 Quest.
Level 34 Boots: Equipment for Novice Archers--> Bring level 1-8 armour set to Dekkid. Level 30 Quest.
Level 36 Helmet: Interpretation of The Ancient Book 4--> Collect Pages of the Book from Monsters is MT. Level 31 Quest
Level 40 Armour: Don't Know. But I think It's questable.
Level 44 Boots: Weak Teeth 5--> Take stuff to Robin in Rumen. Level 39 Quest.
Level 60 Armour: Don't Know. But I think It's questable.

Save money= YAY!

azureangel
06-14-2008, 02:43 AM
Note 1: Levels 21-30: Recommendations on what skills to increase. What items you get from quests that are useful, especially equipment items. If there is anyway that an archer can save some it is by knowing what equipment they get for free. ;D Any tips you have are also great! Post them here or message me. All acknowledgment will be given unless you wish it not to be given.

Looking for:
*What should be empowered
*Quests that gives equip/special items
*Tips for level 21-30 archers only!
*Good places to train for levels 21-30 only!
*Picture of level 20 and level 20 bow/crossbow.
*Anything else that is useful towards this section of archers!

Note 2: I am looking for a level 20 picture, level 30 picture, level 40 picture, level 50, level 60, and level 70. All pictures must be clear. As large as mine are in my signature or larger. Must be full bodied and action shots are most welcomed, but try to get a clear shot of the skill you are using and not to make it too distracting. Message me your screenies that you have. Also I am looking for good pictures of different enahanced bows and crossbows. I need 3-9 of both.

Level 20 Archer;Bow;Crossbow
Level 30 Archer;Bow;Crossbow
Level 40 Archer;Bow;Crossbow
Level 50 Archer;Bow;Crossbow
Level 60 Archer;Bow;Crossbow

Unstriked=Not gotten
Strike=Gotten

Send this with your screenies of archers: (Clear and have nothing surrounding it. Names off and be in a clear area with the armour not blending too much with the background.)

In-game name:
Level:
Screenies:
Other: (If you want to put a comment?)
Anonymous: Yes or No
If No, why not?: (Optional, but I'd like to know why.)

Weapon picture form: (Must be clear and up close! Preferred, bow and crossbow like so -----) or (----- (Crossbow) and bow ------. Basically, so I can use them to separate different sections.)

In-game name:
Level:
Enhancement Level:
Screenies:
Anonymous: Yes or No
If No, why not?: (Optional, but I'd like to know why.)


Acknowledgment given to all screenies unless stated otherwise!

Basic outline of the new companion guide:

Introduction ■
Review ■
Key Terms? □/♪
Levels 21-30 ♪
Levels 31-40 □
Levels 41-50 □
Levels 51-60 □
Level 60: Job Change Quest □
Tips & Tricks □/♪
Final Notes □
Acknowledgements □/♪
Reserved
Reserved

Key:
■=Finished
□=Unfinished
♪=Working on...
□/♪=Semi-working on...

Name picked--> Archerology 101: Archer's Step Up

Thanks guys!
-Dolly

Well, I don't think I've commented here or in the other thread but...
YOUR GUIDES ARE AMAZING!!

There, got that out of my system. =)

I would like to help with some of the screenies, so I don't feel totally useless when it comes to contributing. I'll have to take some next time I get on and turn off all my interfaces first, so I'd like to know if you already have any of the following:
Level 30 Archer
Level 30 Crossbow, Plain
Level 30 Crossbow (+6)
Level 30 Bow (+4)
Level 20 Crossbow (+3) -though I'll have to wear my 3X gear

Also, I'm a bit confused by this:
"Weapon picture form: (Must be clear and up close! Preferred, bow and crossbow like so -----) or (----- (Crossbow) and bow ------. Basically, so I can use them to separate different sections.)"
Would you mind doing a quick clarification?

I'll PM you with the screenies once I know which ones to do. In fact, maybe I should have PMed this as well...

-too lazy to copy+paste- ^^

MissusDolly
06-14-2008, 06:59 AM
I shoulda made that clear. xD My bad. Okay so the crossbow is on its side so the rounded part is faced this way (> or <) so therefore when you look at it it looks like this ----) or (-----, but if you get me a decent picture of it anyway I can turn it. xD I had a feeling I was be to obscure. And so for a bow it would be somewhat like mine is done with my archer using multi-shot and it is perfectly straight and would make a good candidate for using between sections.

The only reason I want them on their side (straight basically) is so I can separate small sections like introduction writing for levels 21-30 from the actually writing of how to get through those levels.

Dolly likes flashy guides. xD Plus I want to put a section in of all bows, archers, and enhancements so people know what they all look like instead of the guessing game. xD

Level 30 Archer--->Without the weapon please? xD
Level 30 Crossbow, Plain--->Perfect!
Level 30 Crossbow (+6)--->Woot! :D
Level 30 Bow (+4)--->Good!
Level 20 Crossbow (+3) -though I'll have to wear my 3X gear--->No problem I'll be separating bows/crossbows from the person any who. ^-^


I'll try to get a few of my own examples so everyone knows what I'm looking for. ;D

azureangel
06-15-2008, 02:52 AM
I'll try to get a few of my own examples so everyone knows what I'm looking for. ;D

If that's the case, then I'll just wait for a bit. I don't want to upload six pictures that are of virtually no use...>.<

Also, I came across the picture below of various bows when I was messing around on the Bright Kingdom website the other night. There should probably be a crossbow version somewhere, but I have no idea how I got to that image in the first place. Also, I'm not sure if they're the same as our version, and my starter-like Japanese doesn't help much.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/FiestaBows.jpg

They don't have a level 20 bow in there...?

And this image might help as well. I got it off either Fiestafan or some Chinese fansite (once again, that I am unable to completely comprehend >.<).

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/BowEnhancements.jpg

MissusDolly
06-15-2008, 05:20 AM
Oooh.... pretty bows. @.@ I wonder if I could graze over to the Bright Kingdom/Shine Online.

Hmm and I think for the enhancing that will do. xD I don't wanna bog down the actually thread. ;D

Thanks! Now to get a level 20 bow and all the crossbows. XD
-Dolly

MissusDolly
06-17-2008, 12:43 PM
I'm going on a small break from the forums, so I can catch up with the guide since I'm way behind, level, work on AP work, and finish up my event. What time I'll be back I'm not sure. I'll lurk & check my messages, but will not post.
-Dolly

MissusDolly
06-23-2008, 04:27 PM
I am writing this in concerns that the guide will be much delayed. Due to unforeseen changes after getting back I've had to delay working on the guide. I will only be able to work on the guide when time allows and it seems that there will be very little time. I am sorry for all those that have been waiting for this guide.
-Dolly

Darksnow
06-23-2008, 09:26 PM
good guide. nice one. i never had a guide on killing and wat to do but soo far i did well. lol.
hmm i dont know on how i can help.
im a lvl 63 archer in apoline
^_^

MissusDolly
06-24-2008, 08:45 PM
I have finally sat down and began to start the guide. I am now writing level 23. ^^

I need the following information:

Where do you believe levels 21-30 should place their 5 empowerment points? At 21 I point out that the cool down of Aimed shot should be decreased. The reason I ask you guys is because at this point is where placing empowerment points become really hazy. Though we have few skills, empowerment points are quite tricky to place.
-Dolly

Kyo7763
06-24-2008, 10:17 PM
Its past your bed time missy :p

Well what i did was Damage on Power shot and Aimed shot - Ull notice when ur a lower lvl the 2nd and 3rd addition of damage on power/aimed shot doesnt really do much until the skill is a higher lvl and empowerments are harder to get on all skills. So they should probably start by spreading out the empowerments as in 1 or 2 in damage on each and a CD point or two if they want.

However, i very strongly suggest that no matter what level archer you are, that you stray away from empowering DoT skills. Later on they do their job fine imo and dont need empowerments at all - Ex. Poison shots durration is ~same/longer then the short CD of the skill - Meaning if u are lucky u can keep the target poisoned without having to worry about using CD empowerments or durration empowerments.

Good luck with your guide Delphi ;) If you need more help i will gladly help you, just PM me in game sinse u already know ;D Gl

(infact i helped Sah with his build today...Yay for me and helping archers.. Lol)

MissusDolly
06-24-2008, 11:38 PM
Shush now, Delphy doesn't have a bed time. ;3 And juu have been so very helpful too. <3
And I whispered you too and you never whispered back. D: Shame on you. >.>

azureangel
06-25-2008, 12:44 AM
I have finally sat down and began to start the guide. I am now writing level 23. ^^

I need the following information:

Where do you believe levels 21-30 should place their 5 empowerment points? At 21 I point out that the cool down of Aimed shot should be decreased. The reason I ask you guys is because at this point is where placing empowerment points become really hazy. Though we have few skills, empowerment points are quite tricky to place.
-Dolly
Perhaps decreasing it again? Personally, I have 5 points damage and 3 (or so) points cooldown on Aimed Shot, which is good seeing as I can go:

Aimed>Power>Poison 1>Poison 2>Auto Attack (Once/Twice)>Aimed

Or perhaps they could save them up for cooldown of the AoE skills...Oh, I don't know.. ._.

Off Topic: Do you still need the piccy of the level 30 archer? The screenshot batch with the interface off didn't go through very well last time I tried, so I might try again this weekend. I heard somewhere that pressing T will freeze your action for a few sections, and that's something that I want to try out. =)

MissusDolly
06-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Perhaps decreasing it again? Personally, I have 5 points damage and 3 (or so) points cooldown on Aimed Shot, which is good seeing as I can go:

Aimed>Power>Poison 1>Poison 2>Auto Attack (Once/Twice)>Aimed

Or perhaps they could save them up for cooldown of the AoE skills...Oh, I don't know.. ._.

Off Topic: Do you still need the piccy of the level 30 archer? The screenshot batch with the interface off didn't go through very well last time I tried, so I might try again this weekend. I heard somewhere that pressing T will freeze your action for a few sections, and that's something that I want to try out. =)

Thanks! That might prove useful. I still got check back and forth between the other guide because I'm so forgetful on where I put them all last time. D:
As for the pictures... I'm not really sure lol I want to either make a new guide or place a section in this guide for pictures of bows, crossbows, upgrades, and armour styles, but at this moment I'm quite unsure what I want to do with them all. I have the bows and enhancements saved to my computer though. >w< Maybe they'll sit in the works and then I'll get back to them sooner or later. I'd say get it too me and I'll either use it in this guide or a later guide.

I have several guides thought up, its just how I work them all out... well it much depends. A lot are just ideas and such, but I hope that some like my final installment of the 80-150 guide will be out there after this one is complete. It's a slow process I have, much slower then my first since this one is more complicated then I had hoped. Maybe though I'll have a guide for other things, archer related, though nothing to far fetched and something useful of course.
-Dolly

AcerSnipes
06-25-2008, 01:47 PM
OK first of dolly i am you biggest fan and if anyone says that im not
bijou battlefield II any time
and
OMG I THINK I CAN HELP A LITTLE :D
i just got to lvl 51 today so anything 40-51 is still fresh n my mind
so look my up if you need help there

MissusDolly
06-25-2008, 03:11 PM
*blushes* You all praise me so highly. >w< Thanks! I'll message you when I get to that section. I'm going to try to finish the 21-30 section tonight or tomorrow. ;D

Friday=Off limits. ^^ Dolly is making cookies that day. <33 I'll share the wealth. ;o; Don't kill me for my snickerdoodles.... <(^_^)> They are oh so delicious!

MissusDolly
06-25-2008, 05:01 PM
Edit: I updated the first post! It needed some change. X3

I completely wrote this in the wrong area... this got written up in my guide. XD

I have thus far level 21-23, 25, 30 written up of the levels 21-30 section. I even have the recap section written. xD Don't ask how the recap can come before the rest... it just works that way. So far with the empowerments I made it so they would finish up with Aimed shot, both cool down + increase damage, I think I'll work with Power Shot next and try to finish with it's cool down then I'll get to decreasing Multi-shot's cool down to maximize AoE then I'll get it so the DoTs are just perfect then I think I'll have them save some points towards Nature's Mist...

Hmm that sounds good. :D I just hope I have enough room. >.> I just found out I have no room in the little 1-20 guide.
-Dolly

Kyo7763
06-25-2008, 09:06 PM
Like i said, DoTs already do their job, the player should save their points unless they want to have to buy a skill reset once they get to 75 when they dont have the empowerments to use on Piercing shot :p
If they are going to be focusing on AOE like ur noting they will want to have at least 5 points for when they get to 75 - Sinse every odd u get a empowerment they would need to start saving for piercing at lvl 67 for 5 points, but thats considering they just want max CD. If they wanted to be a good AOE'er they would also have a couple more points for dmg, so thats alot of point saving which would need to be considered prior to what they are using on other skills.

Im always with my shop up selling scrolls - I was afk :p
U talked with me today, thats the normal time im on

MissusDolly
06-25-2008, 10:01 PM
xD You would be in your shop!

Okay I'll take those into account. Empowerments = messy. >.< I hate empowerments! lol.


I'll be gone tomorrow, Friday, & Saturday. Tomorrow = cleaning outside + making cookehs. Friday = my 16th b-day party. Saturday = working on putting 1 acre pastures + fencing up. ;o;
-Dolly

Nimiae
06-26-2008, 05:42 PM
xD I was wondering what I'd do after I exhausted your 1~20 guide. I have been sent a miracle from a Divinity of Isya!

MissusDolly
06-26-2008, 08:31 PM
xD I was wondering what I'd do after I exhausted your 1~20 guide. I have been sent a miracle from a Divinity of Isya!

X3 It's slowly coming together, but coming together none the less. I do hope to have a rough draft up soon, so everyone can see what it looks like, but I want to finish more level sections before I look towards that.
-Dolly

MissusDolly
06-29-2008, 10:25 AM
I'll be starting the 31-40 section here shortly, maybe tomorrow. ;D
-Dolly

Kyo7763
06-29-2008, 11:21 AM
Someone got a rewards for being a cool little faji :)

Faji is a great guild as people can tell, i've given a little rewarded to Delphi for her outstanding work with people in and out of the guild/community~

Keep up the good work and keep showing people how great Fajii is of a guild as well of how considerate of a person you are! :)
(Interested in joining Faji? We have two guilds that will fit any level(60+ guild and a 60-)Send me a PM in game :D)

MissusDolly
06-29-2008, 11:46 AM
Thank you again Kyo for the wonderful items. ;D

MissusDolly
07-02-2008, 04:14 PM
I'm going to start on the 31-40 section now. I'm not completely done with the 21-30 section, but it is almost done. I just want to get your guys input for the 31-40 so I can start compiling it all together. ;D
-Dolly

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
07-02-2008, 04:42 PM
if you get ahold of t3 scrolls(def/hp), go and grind solid in the abyss on the ghosts(avoid the procks, they poison). i got 37% in 35 minuitss just now by doing this.

Kyo7763
07-02-2008, 04:56 PM
The fastest way i found to level was in Goblin Camp at this level. Mages score less damage and still give very high exp for a while. Because archers have a decent amount of magic defense these are no problem compared to the captains that lurk around! :)

I remember flying through levels there, I think i did it up till 38? Then went to Harkans in SEG... Then did that for sooo many levels lol. Too many now i think, sinse Dark passage has alot more archons/pixys to kill for everyone :)

Hikorii
07-02-2008, 06:24 PM
Oh This sounds interesting ^^
In-game name: Makii (from bijou)
Level: 76
(Note: I took off the level 74 shoes so that the lv 64 shoes would fit into the outfit ;))
Screenies:

Action Picture:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/si2ta/screenshot841.jpg

Walking Front:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/si2ta/screenshot888.jpg

Walking Back:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/si2ta/screenshot889.jpg

Center:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/si2ta/screenshot880.jpg

Something pretty?:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/si2ta/screenshot860.jpg

(Note:I Just thought you might want a pretty screenie of an archer for a title or introduction picture o_o?)

Comment: Well~ These pictures were taken during a glitch I had xP
Quite a wonderful glitch really ^^ All of Elderine was transformed into a Heaven (Almost) clouds and a sky blue horizon ^^
~Btw If you want more pictures please give me a Private Message ^^;
I have HEAPS of Screenies =]

Note:
Gears used in the first three pictures include:
- +9 Level 70 Scout Bow
- Level 70 Scout Top
- Level 64 Scout Shoes
- Level 76 Scout Helm
- Level 68 Scout Pants

~Sigh~ It would have been nice if the Lv 80 Top was out ^^; Than I could've used the full level 70 gear :O Or else.. it'll just look out of place xP Sudden BLUE! O_O

Anonymous: No
Reason: Because ... I like to have credit to my screenshots ^^;?

MissusDolly
07-02-2008, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the information and the screenies. <3 I shall find a way to fit it all it the guide. *o*
-Dolly

RyaikenDune
07-05-2008, 11:26 AM
Lol..Dolly you forgot one thing. And this should be in the new guide not the 1-20 guide because archers don't really shine till 30+

AHEM...to all you still stumped about this:

An Archer's Clear-Cut Non-Mage-Inclusive Role in a Party.

Single Target:
-Poison the monster and add DPS. That's all we need to do here. And we do it well.

AoE: Here's were the list goes wrong. While a mage can go AFK and no ones misses him, I have to stay alert or AoE=epic fail T_T.

1. Keep monsters off the cleric. Do this with your DoTs. They are godly.
2. Tank 1/8th of the mobs. This includes monsters you take off the cleric/mage and monsters that slip off the tank.
3. Make sure the tank never loses aggro. This is very intricate and I will explain later XP
4. Provide constant AoE damage (unlike Mr.Mage who, below 60, AoEs once and then has to go single target for 6 seconds XP)
5. After level 51, you will be luring. A lot. Instacast AoE+Nature's Protection makes archers perfect for luring. So buy those Speed Scrolls now.
6. Save the party.

What archers are:

Fighters are the tanks. Clerics are the healers. Mages are the nukes. What are archers? Archers are the Multitask class. They fill in failings of Mages, Fighters and Clerics (defence, aggro and damage respectively) and are the cement which bonds a party together. Let's face it, without an archer, you're in for a lot of work. Because tanks cannot keep total aggro, clerics cannot heal themselves and their party and mages cannot take a hit and have big damage gaps, archers nullify those problems with their own special brand of archer magic. XP

Clean and Simple: Let's take a 3 man party. Fighter Cleric and Mage. This three man party has problems. Namely the Fighter can't keep aggro. The Cleric pulls one or two mobs and has to pot and stone. The mage dies at the drop of a hat.

What does party do?
-Add a fighter and there will be healing problems. 2 tanks = 2 heals for cleric.
-Add a cleric and there will then be damage problems. the killing won't be quick enough to satisfy 4 members. And again, 1 more cleric= one more aggro producer.
-Add a mage and there will be severe aggro problems. The tank won't be able to hold aggro from 2 mages and a cleric.

Add an archer and if Nature's Protection is used well, the tank will rarely lose aggro. If one or two mobs get siphoned off, the archer can tank them much better than a mage or a cleric could requiring fewer heals or maybe even only a regeneration.

The cleric won't have healing problems since the archer concentrated damage onto the tank with only minimal damage to him/herself.

The mage has beter damage support.

End of problems

azureangel
07-05-2008, 10:35 PM
I knew there was something I forgot...sorry this is weeks late...>.<

And also, I forgot to say


HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

~for a week or two ago...

I've put the links in so that it doesn't stretch the page.

IG Name: Yumi07
Level: 36? I think...
Screenies:
30 Archer: (sorry...I forgot to get a plain one...>.<)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/screenshot121.jpg
30+6 Crossbow:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/screenshot129.jpg
30 Normal Crossbow:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/screenshot131.jpg
30+4 Bow:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/screenshot130.jpg
20+3 Crossbow:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/xxazureangelxx/screenshot132.jpg

Tips I can give for levels 30-40 (not necessarily archer-only):
~Do the repeatable quests early on, especially 'Purging The Moonlight Tomb' as many times as you can until you pass the level limit. There are less of them as you get to the higher 3Xs, so save your Robo quests for then.
~You can get level the 34 boots, the level 36 pants, and the level 40 top from quests. Quest list shown here (http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/Quest_List_%28Levels_21_to_40%29) (go Fiestawiki!). However, I've heard that you have to wait forever to kill the mob needed for the level 40 top, so it's suggested to buy it cheaply from a vendor.
~Erm...grind on magic mobs? Fire Vivis, Magic Staves, Flying Staves...etc. Also, kite on Baby Werebears in Dark Passage II (or was it I?). There is a gate there from Moonlight Tomb. When skills are timed right, they can be killed before they reach you.
~Grab a Mentality scroll, and do the above while soloing. Make sure to kill mobs that die before they reach you, and rest whenever your SP is low. This way, you don't have to waste many potions/stones.

I know, they're not very well thought out. If I suddenly get a brain-wave, I'll add it in. ~brain dies down~ =)

Edit: I just realised I was supposed to PM this...sorry MissusDolly...T_T

MissusDolly
07-06-2008, 12:06 AM
No problem, it's okay that it is here. ;D And thanks lol... late, but better late then never. ^^ Okay I'mma spend like all of tomorrow on the guide alone. :o I've already decided I need to get a move on it because I've kinda neglected it a bit.

And I know what you mean with brain waves dying... lol all my creative juices have kinda been drained doing other things. .___.
-Dolly

AcerSnipes
07-06-2008, 06:50 PM
>.< lets see uhhhhhh -_0....... a great place i train 31-40 was cp duoing with a great cleric around my lvl (SHOUT OUT TO uberian_mann) other than that QUEST do as many quest as u can and kq as much as possible til 40 after that no more kq

DOLLY I MADE 60 TODAY AND UR GUIDE IS STILL MY BIBLE *hugs guide*

MissusDolly
07-06-2008, 08:02 PM
Congratulations! ^^ That's awesome. ;D I'm glad the guide is still helping. ^^ Always stuff to learn, always. ^-^
-Dolly

AcerSnipes
07-06-2008, 08:06 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG SHE TALKED TO ME *faints*

MissusDolly
07-06-2008, 09:51 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG SHE TALKED TO ME *faints*

Dork lol. :P <3 for the archers.

(I'd work on my guide if my Fajii admin would stop whipping me to get to 60. D< That means you Dae if you ever see this.... >.> <3 for the Fajii guild though. :3)

MissusDolly
07-07-2008, 10:06 PM
Okay so, now I've finally finished the level 21-30 section! I can begin the level 31-40; all the stats I've placed are set. I've decided to look more towards an AoE range. I finished increasing damage of Aimed Shot and am now looking towards decreasing the Multi-Shot cool down which is complete by level 35 I think? Anyways from there I'm going to finish increasing Power shot or saving for CD of Vemon Shot, not quite sure exactly. So, basically I have to write filler stuff now.

I really need quests though that give archer items! .__. I need to know lol... why should they spend more then they need to?
-Dolly

azureangel
07-07-2008, 10:58 PM
I really need quests though that give archer items! .__. I need to know lol... why should they spend more then they need to?

Dolly didn't see my Fiestawiki link...T_T

Ah well...Here goes! ^^
Level 30 Quest: A Sign of Crisis 4: Level 30 Top Armour
Level 30 Quest: Defense Equipment for Novice Archers: Level 34 Boots
Level 31 Quest: Interpretation of the Ancient Book 4: Level 36 Hat
Level 41 Quest: Concealed Peak 4: Level 40 Top Armour

That's 30-40 armour...do you need the rest? =)

MissusDolly
07-08-2008, 01:39 PM
Dolly didn't see my Fiestawiki link...T_T

Ah well...Here goes! ^^
Level 30 Quest: A Sign of Crisis 4: Level 30 Top Armour
Level 30 Quest: Defense Equipment for Novice Archers: Level 34 Boots
Level 31 Quest: Interpretation of the Ancient Book 4: Level 36 Hat
Level 41 Quest: Concealed Peak 4: Level 40 Top Armour

That's 30-40 armour...do you need the rest? =)

Oh my I didn't! Thank you! That shall do for now. ^^
-Dolly

RyaikenDune
07-12-2008, 04:59 AM
O_o HOW DID THIS GET TO THE SECOND PAGE? Damnit. I leave for one week and suddenly it's suicide city in the archer forums =.=. Ima go bump my Murphy's Laws threads....

On a more useful note, I just went on an Isya-Tour alone. I explored the entire AEW, FoS and got about 300 pixels into Helga and took about 1000 health (read: 1/100) of one of the monsters there. Hmmm...

On an optimistic note, a level 4x archer with a T2 Speed is a veritable God.
List of things Soloed:
-Prisoner
-Elven Tree
-Lizardman
-Greenky
-Torturer
-Senior Torturer
-Fighters and Clerics in Elderine PvP (I hadn't really seen the whole thing T_T)

Nothing enhanced except my pride.

MissusDolly
07-14-2008, 10:14 PM
Yes basically with a little skill, a speed scroll, and a little heart to run into battle an archer can solo anything they wish for I have soloed a blue card trumpy without running and only a defense scroll and a cleric buff, but I wouldn't be eager to do it again just yet and I am only lvl 51. ;D Archers have much they can do, but as many are always eager for power and want more when they have everything at their finger tips literally speaking. ^^ Archers can overcome the challenges set before them, but is the challenges they have set before them that many can not overcome.

And with such knowledge I bump this thread to the first page so that others can pass on the knowledge they have gained so I might weave it into the next chapter of the archer guide. ^^ I am working on it, but have come into a bit of trouble, but will resolve it as soon as possible.
-Dolly

RyaikenDune
07-15-2008, 05:46 AM
You're level 51? T_T why do you have to be in Apoline?

Gratz on mistage =D

MissusDolly
07-15-2008, 11:51 AM
You're level 51? T_T why do you have to be in Apoline?

Gratz on mistage =D

XD Yes. Sadly Apple is my home. ;D I don't think I could fit in anywhere else. ^^

EriAeris
07-15-2008, 11:54 AM
Congratulations! ^^ That's awesome. ;D I'm glad the guide is still helping. ^^ Always stuff to learn, always. ^-^
-Dolly

SO you were making an Archer guide instead of our story?

WHY!?

Just kidding :) <3

MissusDolly
07-15-2008, 12:38 PM
SO you were making an Archer guide instead of our story?

WHY!?

Just kidding :) <3

Well actually being kept away from both really, but trying to attempt to finish my 4 AP summer essays and 75 words. ^^ But I try to balance all three. ;D

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
07-15-2008, 01:24 PM
good thing joo from applebeeline!!!

All the good people are apolinians!!!

MissusDolly
07-15-2008, 02:34 PM
good thing joo from applebeeline!!!

All the good people are apolinians!!!

Teehee, not all I believe, but many that I can easily name do. ;D

MissusDolly
07-22-2008, 08:28 PM
=.= Legal bump from page 3. I am working. :P

RyaikenDune
07-22-2008, 10:02 PM
:O Bijou, I think has nicer people, no offense. The irregular bad apple is always shot down by his peers ^^.

Anyways, I've come with an update: I spent too much time in Abyssal Summit where the monsters don't miss when I was 4x. But at 5x, quest-monsters miss like mad and I only have +25 Dex in my build. Dex useless? NOPE.

MissusDolly
07-23-2008, 10:11 AM
Yeah I surely learned that. DEX only seems useless in the lower levels. =.= I'm still gonna stick with the current build I am using for the guide, since it still can be useful, but I find that if one looks at builds and chooses the best for them it will work out. :3

=.= Yeah for missing monsters... I know I thought I was going crazy with all the monsters missing me since I only had +6 DEX in my build. XD

I do have to agree there, Apple has some bad apples, but we have some good ones too. ;D Just gotta look good and hard and ignore the bad ones. .__.

D= And nuuu!!! You are leaving us for boarding school... bad. D< Boarding school is icky. :P Don't make me bring out the ducktape. >.> Bleh... =.= Hope you have a wonderful school year... lol I too might be semi-quitting come Aug. I have two AP classes and FFA to keep me occupied, especially if our President can't be in her position I move up to that spot and will have a LOT to do. :P
-Dolly

Kyo7763
07-23-2008, 10:19 AM
Omg guys, ull never believe this, i won the battle of if some1 can be pro against Delphi. Im soooo awesome D: xD jk jk.

Anyway, I can help you lay out more builds and what equips archers need to strive for if ur still looking for more info and such with your guides if ur still looking. o.o

Also, all the cool people that Delphi was talkin about are in Fajii, and the awesomes on our friends lists :D

MissusDolly
07-23-2008, 11:13 AM
Nah right now I just have to take the time to fluff up some bits and then I'll move on to the next section. I've just had too much to think about and not enough motivation to do it. =.= A lot of things have burnt me out and I'm just kinda sitting back and well doing nothing because I have a lot of stuff that is really settling on my mind at the moment and it causes me to be able to concentrate on what I need to do. =.=

And sure you did Kyo... one time. D< I won't let it happen again. X3 Nah my statement was poorly setup and such and my mind was wandering... .___. like it has been lately. Summer + school coming up way to fast are screwing up my plans a lot.

RyaikenDune
07-24-2008, 12:09 AM
Hmm...I've just been thinking. Wouldn't it be cool to max damage on power shot to make a killer PvP archer? Because as it is, fighters have problems with me and clerics can only stall me out if they have great gear and a +9 shield...my only problem is mages. Now if we could have a super-skill that really packs a hell of a wallop (like 3/5 of Mr. Mage's HP) then we could just shave off a little health, then powershot and use the 2 instacast DoTs for a quick KO.

Another handy tip is to buy dex armours instead of end armours.
-They're much cheaper.
- My dodge rate is pretty good against monsters. With 1 T1 evasion scroll I dodge like moer than 1/2 hits on yellow and like 1/3 hits on orange (:O).

Note: Abyss monsters rarely miss. They have better aim than normal monsters.

MissusDolly
07-26-2008, 05:15 PM
.___. *hits myself* Bad Dolly lol D= I haven't worked on the guide at all for a couple of weeks. ;o; Dolly has been really lazy....

I agree with the Dex items, I find that they are cheaper and a lot more useful then like Str. End is okay, but only really good if you find it in large sums instead of small bits.
Powershot=<3 for huge damage ^^ It might possibly work. o.O The thing I really wish we had was a bit of increase to the dmg of the poisons/bleeds overtime dmg. It would be a huge help I think. I haven't really pvp against my mages, but I've gone against fighters and some clerics. Clerics give me trouble because they can heal everything and fighters are semi-easy because they miss a lot, but if you get stunned you are like screwed. .-. I couldn't kill my fighter friend (lvl 55) against the my (lvl 52) because every time I got the upper hand, his stun wouldn't miss and there was no way I could survive. >w< (Yes... the way I got my upper hand was running him into a mob and using nature's protection, so his attention would switch to the monsters and off of me then I would pound him... don't do this if you don't know the person. D< It is mean... ^^).
-Dolly

EriAeris
07-26-2008, 05:30 PM
Hey dolly :)

MissusDolly
07-26-2008, 06:10 PM
Hey ^^ lol

RyaikenDune
07-27-2008, 12:42 AM
O_o....hence the kiting thing. Dolly, nothing in the entire universe is more irritating then running around in circles after something which is taking out 1/20th of your HP every second...and don't forget to use mist a couple of times too when no one else is around ;P

O_o are fighters easier on Bijou? Heck, I have 10 (count 'em, 10) STR points and I don't have problems KOing fighters. Uber fighters with +9 everything, everyone has trouble with, but once I get my +9 xbow, I'm sure all will be fine. @_@

MissusDolly
07-27-2008, 12:50 AM
=.= Um... I should never answer anything while I am tired lol. I'm just the wrong person to say anything about pvp I guess. I completely fail at it, see no purpose of it, and find it as a waste of time/money, but that is me and I just try to see the purpose. >w<

Also I guess I was a much of a disadvantage of my fighter friend because he had a +9 stated axe, full STR, and END items... lol .___. Um I say I faired quite well against him.

I guess I better go to bed before deciding to answer anything or do anything more lol. D= Past midnight zomg lol *runs off to bed* =.= I will attempt to finish the 31-40, and start on the 41-50 section and speedily finish that because I want to attempt to actually finish this in 2 1/2 weeks which is when I begin school and will find I have a LOT less time.

MissusDolly
07-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Okay now I have been on like hyper drive lol. I have 4 levels to fluff up and then I shall begin the next section. Told ya I'd finished it today. ;D I feel bad about avoiding so I am going to attempt to complete levels 41-50 w/out help and tie in the loose ends with anything new I get. I am still working on all the information is this thread and how to tie it all in. =.= I'm just trying to make it so that the guide is enjoyable, funny, but serious and if anyone has ever tried to mix those three completely different things into writing then you know the difficultly! ;D So, I am hard at work. =.= Gonna finish my essay while I'm at it since it just needs a conclusion paragraph that I couldn't come up with lol.

Edit: =.= Dolly just thought of something lol. I figure if anyone asks me what I did for my summer I shall say I was writing an epic piece of work... o.O I think telling them I was writing up an archer guide would kinda put them off... ^^

Edit2: 41-50: Continue w/ the STR/SPR 2:1; Finish off damage addition to power shot;Save last two points for AoE poison CD; =.= Planned training spots, Goblin camp, Collapsed Prision, Abyss, and SEG.
51-60: Continue with same build; decrease AoE poison CD & ??? lol; Planned training spots: Collapsed Prision, SEG, Abyss, Uruga, AEW(?).

Once I set out the skeleton basically then I just fluff the level up and it is done. (This is my process lol) =.=

MissusDolly
07-27-2008, 06:56 PM
Finished the recap section of the 41-50, skeleton of it, now to fluff. =.= Yes I normally flesh it out, finish the recap section, and fluff it up. o.O 51-60 is semi-fleshed. ^^ I'm fluffing the 41-50 section right now. I should finish that tonight. Then tomorrow if I do get a chance I will finish up the 51-60 and add to the following sections: Key Terms and Acknowledgments. I will also begin the following sections: Tips & Tricks and Final Notes.

If all goes as planned I might actually release the guide much earlier then I had first expected. ^^ Shooting for Tuesday... possibly Wednesday. ;D It will be everything, but pictures. Some sections will forever be unfinished, whether they can or can not I still don't know. Can you believe after about 2 months I am almost complete? ^^

RyaikenDune
07-28-2008, 12:14 AM
ZOMG that's a lot of work....@_@ *insert prairse here*

Let it be known that 41-46 is easy. But 46-50, I attained only due to the wonder that is alts of high levelled players in abyss ^^.

MissusDolly
07-28-2008, 10:36 AM
=.= Lol 41-50 were like testing my bond to my archer big time. I think I did one repeat quest at level 49 about 7-10 times. .___. That was a real pain in the butt.

1/2 done with section 41-50 (Done)
Fleshing out 51-60 ^^ (Fluff :o ZOmg lol)
Lvl 60 Quest (Done)
Tips/Tricks (Nothing yet... will start cutting off sections and stuff today. Sections include: AoE(Done), Kiting(Done), Money Making(Done), and Greens(Done) for now. Any suggestions? ;D)
Archer Terms/Laws (Mostly done, but never done.)
Final Notes (Done basically)
Acknowledgments (Done basically XD)

Pictures-->Will be placed in after the guide is posted to allow me to take time to build everything together and such. :D
-Dolly

Edit: o.O Three more things are keeping me away from actually posting this. D= Omg lol

Edit2: Only two more sections.. o.o

Edit3: =.= Um... you get 5 extra stat points for completing the lvl 60 quest correct?

Edit4: So many edits lol... um 1 more section? ^^ Happy!!!!

RyaikenDune
07-28-2008, 11:05 PM
Em....10 extra points for the level 60 job change ^^

MissusDolly
07-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Em....10 extra points for the level 60 job change ^^

That was way more then I thought. XD Thanks now I can finish that section.
-Dolly

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
07-29-2008, 03:19 PM
i am going to have to kill you and steal your work, dolly. its too good :)

MissusDolly
07-29-2008, 11:01 PM
i am going to have to kill you and steal your work, dolly. its too good :)

XD I wouldn't get anywhere without help of course. ^^

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
07-30-2008, 08:16 PM
no, you would still create the work of a god.

MissusDolly
07-31-2008, 07:34 PM
=.= Lol.... D= *tries to keep the idea from going to her head*

Edit: Once I finish the 51-60 section I am going to take a month long break from guide making or even thinking about a guide lol.... =.= This will give me the chance to add pictures, brush up the guides, and mainly concentrate on the first month of school since I will need to have that time to school due to my 2 AP classes. XD

ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS
08-01-2008, 07:10 AM
kk thats fine!