Exp for buffs

[Khanna]

Just a passing thought - Perhaps if Clerics got exp (even 5-20 exp) for performing buffs - more high level clerics would be willing to give buffs.

I have never had issue giving Endure buffs to ppl - and i am a level 7x Paladin
but i see alot of clerics pretending to be AFK or refusing to give buffs some even charge for buffs.

just a thought - it would be a win win situation

(and with low exp from buffs- would not be an issue for leveling )

[viorexx]

That an idea but it will never work. You got to think about buffing guild mate, your party or want to do a random help someone out. Each time you do it the cleric get xp.
I do have a problem giving buffs to to any one that want one.
when some ask me for a buff i just want to ignore them. Then i look at what lvl they are at. if they are about lvl 40 or higher i buff. if low i just walk away.

[Ryokosha]

Not giving buffs although you are asked for it is not very nice. >_<

Clerics should like to help even for no compensation~

[Bryantos]

That would take the grind away from Clerics. They could just sit and spam buffs, then rest, spam buffs, rest, spam buffs, etc.

Thats the only problem I see with your idea, and its a big problem.

[Ryokosha]

Um, I wouldn't call it problem if it takes as long or even longer than grinding. >_>

Even getting exp for healing and buffing could be considered as grinding anyways.

[Khanna]

it already happens i am grinding or healing my party and ppl come and ask for buffs - and i do buff them - but in town or as you are passing through somewhere i get 15-30 request and hour for buffs.

How many times while in town (and not in PvP or GW) do Mages get asked to Nova or Inferno? Or Fighters asked to Deva or Sneer Kick?

Mages had Dispell - but is primarily used in the field.

Level 47+ clerics and especially level 71+ clerics are asked (even when in non armor and not carrying weapon) to buff ppl.

For those of us who do buff and rarely turn ppl away (even if we are in a fight or grinding) it would be a nice little bonus.

Just thought it would make the playing enviornment a little nicer so ppl do not have to beg for buffs repeatedly and more clerics would be willing to give them.

that is all.

[Archaonn]

Clerics stop being wusses you just need two words to get rid of noobs

STFU NOOBS

there ya go

[nademe]

That would take the grind away from Clerics. They could just sit and spam buffs, then rest, spam buffs, rest, spam buffs, etc.

Thats the only problem I see with your idea, and its a big problem.
she say 5~20 exp , and buff take alote sp :) what you say i need to buff 75 players to get same xp i get from 1 mob ( if i get 20 exp for the buff)
try to join a KQ as a cliric without a party and heal for free :) at the end you will get the lowest xp for doing your job ;)

I do have a problem giving buffs to to any one that want one.
when some ask me for a buff i just want to ignore them. Then i look at what lvl they are at. if they are about lvl 40 or higher i buff. if low i just walk away.
for me i dont :D in fact i become more happy to buff low level player coz i was one, and same for players dont use sc ( dont misunderstand me i buff all ) but to have more 600 hp over your 6k is not like having 600 over your 200 :)
when im on my mover and there is a party waiting for me ( mostly i dont buff)
anyway idk small exp dont worth it

[MissusDolly]

Clerics stop being wusses you just need two words to get rid of noobs

STFU NOOBS

there ya go

That is just plain rude.

Really though 10-50 experience is like a cleric grinding on a low green/high grey mob. When they buff so many people it is nice when they get something in return for their services. ;D It wouldn't affect clerics leveling at all. Just a perk of being a cleric and maybe it'd make some clerics happy that buff a lot because they enjoy it. It might also increase people randomly buffing people. There is also no way that you could level off this at level 47+ unless you have endless amounts of time and most would rather grind instead of doing mindless buffing.
-Dolly

[Scarlets]

I don't really see a problem with someone sitting in town and spamming buffs all day. I think if you get 5-20 exp per person for level 47+, grinding would be much faster since you get around hundreds of exp per mob anyway.

But I don't have a level 47 anymore, so I'll calculate more precisely using my own cleric as the test subject.

I have 8,645,995 exp to fill up.
Endure has a cooltime of 3 seconds.
Let's say Endure gives 20 exp per cast.
Abyss Orcs gives me 1330 exp per kill.
I can kill an orc in 30 seconds (no +9s at all D=)

Buffing would get me to level in 360 hours as opposed to 54 hours soloing on Abyss Orcs. That is if I solo. Partying as everybody knows could give you more exp in less amount of time.

I get 44 exp per second killing Orcs too. And 6 exp per second buffing. =O

You might be able to level up faster or just as fast as grinding at level 47, but hey, it's just like KQs. You can spam KQ and get tons of exp. =O

Buffing may be easier, but it takes longer time to level. IMO, if such a system exists, it would be a bonus instead of a mean to level.

PS: It's 4am, there might be a mistake in my calculation. I'd appreciate a correction if anyone sees it. =O

[Fireballer3]

Well, that would be a good idea, but then clerics would have to waste more money on SP stones and pots.....

[Oshe_Rono]

Ok, I just read that someone only gives buffs to lvl 40 or above? Did it ever occur to you that really, the people that need it for quests are usually the under lvl 40 crowd? Some bosses really hand the pain, and the extra 400+ hp does make a difference. Now the gripe I do have is that it takes a huge amount of sp to buff, and when 8 ppl are saying buff pls I have to tell them wait or walk. I do say though, we reserve the right to buff, I for one ignore people using all caps, or not saying please or pls, and no plox or whatever that is doesnt count, any word that has to make me think as to what it meaning is makes me ignore all else.

Anyway, if they reduced the sp requirement a bit, say some 30 sp or so, that would be nice.

[Shadowic2]

I really wouldn't see the point in it.
Plus you'd have all the other classes complaining and wanting their skills to give exp when casted as well.
So I personally don't think it's really needed. The only reward I need for my buffs is a simple "thank you."

[kyle_infinity]

yea they could just do it put all colldown on it and spam on 1 person

[SandaimeHokage]

Not giving buffs although you are asked for it is not very nice. >_<

Clerics should like to help even for no compensation~

I started playing this game with a cleric not because I "like to buff" but because I like to play.
If its a friend or someone i know, I'll buff him. If its someone else ( call me rude if you want, I dont care) I wont even pay any atention to him, he can just spam "buff plz" all he wants that im not buffing, its just that simple.

[darksoulenvoy]

Wow...it's so interesting that I found this thread because as of yesterday I have decided that unless you are in my guild you will be paying for any buffs, heals, or rezews you get from me. I finally noticed that a lot of ppl are only nice to you when they want you to do something for them but the second you need something they get an attitude! I'd like to give a shoout out to the Cleric named "Heal_yourself"!!! I only wish I had thought of that name first!!

[rbd1313]

This is simple its our skill its our sp being use. If a cleric wants to charge for a buff it's no different really then those who have production skills that sell Vit and Ment scrolls. No different form those player who charge to take someone out power lvling either.

I frankly buff who i want when i want and ignore the rest. Just because I'm a cleric I don't have to help everyone out nor waste my sp to do so.

I however have never charged for a buff and from time to time can be seen doing drive by buffings and standing in eldy buffing anyone that wants one, but this is my choice to do it when I want to not a right of everyone else to ask of me just because I am a cleric.

also "buff plz" or even "buff please" does not cut it for me anymore try to be nicer about it say "may I have a buff please" or "If your not busy can you buff me please"

I might be standing there getting quests turn ones in or buying/selling something to an NPC or rooting through my storage and don't always see someone asking so don't generalize most clerics by saying they are acting AFK when they may be busy or really AFK........

Again simply its our skill to do whatever we wish with it.



I'd actually like to see a cleric someday not buy the buffing skill lol maybe hard for them to get pass lvl 47 without it but think about going up to that cleric and asking them for a buff and them simply saying I can't i never bought the skill and won't ever buy it.


OK thought of something and had to edit this how about making endure a self/party buff only. That will keep people from asking for a buff and make the cost of Vit scroll to go up lol

[resigood]

if you get exp from buffs, why cant fighters get exp from mock? mages from dispel? archers from mist?

why cant i pay for exp?

all simple questions, but the answer will be no, grind and kill like everyone else

you get free heals, what else can u ask for >.>

[Scarlets]

if you get exp from buffs, why cant fighters get exp from mock? mages from dispel? archers from mist?

You say it as if it's already been implemented. And are there any word against fighters getting exp for mock? Or mages from dispel? And an archer's mist?


why cant i pay for exp?

Why play at all if you're just going to pay for your exp?

[ToorimaKun]

Clerics stop being wusses you just need two words to get rid of noobs

STFU NOOBS

there ya go

your stupid, just cuz some one has a low lvl char dosen't mean that they are new.
i have like 18 chars and most of them are barlly over level 20.
*get over your self or go play a PVP MMO*
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any way, i think if the SP use for ENDER was lowered then people would buff more often... i hate running out of SP after buffing like 5 people and having to rest or use a stone/potion.
** and i have 25 SPR so i have a ton of SP. **

[darksoulenvoy]

if you get exp from buffs, why cant fighters get exp from mock? mages from dispel? archers from mist?

why cant i pay for exp?

all simple questions, but the answer will be no, grind and kill like everyone else

you get free heals, what else can u ask for >.>

Free heals? How exactly are they "free"? We have to pay for more SP stones and potions than any other class and in many quests we get less exp because everyone wants us to heal and buff them the entire time!

[irroc29]

Okay, and what if you don't get exp from buffing and you get like.. a higher skill or something after using it a certain number of times? Like another skill point to use, etc.

Or if that's how you get -buff name [#]- instead of buying them?
That might be too elaborate, but on the same end more effective.

[darksoulenvoy]

I think in the end, not many ppl actually want to play cleric characters but want all the benefits of one...

[irroc29]

Not many people want cleric characters??
Why >>
They're a great character to play as.. o.O

[fadingsensation]

if people ask nice enough, it never hurt me to stop and buffed em,
well for those noobs that spaming buff, there is always block option for me

well you talking about the cost of sp stone, if you are lvl 47+ i think you would have more than enough to buy, or else you can juss rest, buff or not it is your free choice, like i said there is always Block option

[darksoulenvoy]

I think it would be a great idea to give exp to anyone (of any class) that uses a skill on somone other than themselves...can't see how this would hurt as long as the exp is somewhat low...until I start seeing a little something something for all the healing and buffing ppl want me to do, I refuse to do anything else that doesn't directly help me *shrugz*

[Deux_Murakama]

I dont really have a problem buffing people but when it comes to clercs who are lvl 47 n they approach you for a buff becauuse yours is strong i tell them get lost and go find a vit t1 scroll. Also if a player just got a buff from someone else say a lvl 59 then they come to me i react saying "You just got a buff, dont be greedy and waste my time" and they always repl "But yours is stronger" Well mine is stronger but what was the point of wasting the previous person tht buffed you sp stones.