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GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 06:24 PM
this* is so bs when i first loged in the store was on but when beta shutdown and now sence beta shut down i lost all my money, clothes, and others.

talonmas
08-25-2007, 06:27 PM
Eh, do you know what a beta is? Suggest you look it up on wiki...

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 06:33 PM
beta is a sever

talonmas
08-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Like I said, look it up on wiki...

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 06:40 PM
what does it say because there r different meanings

jatznic
08-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Beta is a testing phase for games. Basically what you are doing as a player is helping the developers work out problems and fix bugs with the programming. When they feel sufficiently sure they have collected enough data to modify the game coding for public release, they close the beta portion of the game. This also means all test characters are deleted so all of the final changes can be implemented into the game properly. This is all standard procedure for any beta test phase. If you ever beta test a game again, know in advance that this will happen before the public release.


-Seiteki

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 06:51 PM
beta is a sever and the sever is what*connects up u the the game

Flaming_Slayer
08-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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<font color="#ff00ff">soo when is the last time this will happen ? or does anyone no ??(i mean like ... when will beat b over ?) .....and the game b released to the public and no more invites just 2 play ..... well maybe u no wat i mean ... </font>

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<font color="#ff00ff">k .. thnxz !! </font>

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wangfu85
08-25-2007, 07:31 PM
uhm....... Slayer, if you actually went to show effort to find the answers to your questions by reading posts from GMs you will noe that this wipe will be the final wipe for players. Wipe was only for closed Beta and not for Open Beta.

jatznic
08-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Wang is correct. Catsclaw has stated in multiple posts that the open beta phase characters will remain active through public release. Only the closed beta characters were removed.

Flaming_Slayer
08-25-2007, 08:06 PM
<font color="#ff00ff">PFT .... maybe if u would show the effort and no wat i did u would already no that i did try and look up all that mess and maybe i wasnt let in ... so idk who u are tryin to talk 2 like that ... i just asked a simple question ... im not the one to say something like that 2 .... so u just go ur way and ill go mine !!! /sites/all/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif</font>

Flaming_Slayer
08-25-2007, 08:07 PM
<font color="#ff00ff">c thnx u jatznic that is all i needed to no ......</font>

jatznic
08-25-2007, 08:14 PM
>Gbig Beta is technically not a server in and off itself. The server the beta testing is run on is dubbed the beta server for testing purposes. If you want the true reasoning behind this, here it is. There are two phases in every game initially. Alpha testing, and Beta testing. These terms are based on the sequential ordering of the letters in the greek alphabet. Hence, alpha comes first and beta comes second. If beta was a server, it would basically mean "this is the server that came second". It is actually a representation of the second testing phase for a release.


>Slayer Your welcome.


-Seiteki


"All I know, is that I know nothing" Socrates

Flaming_Slayer
08-25-2007, 09:13 PM
<font color="#ff00ff">wow jatznic u no a lot !!!</font>

wangfu85
08-25-2007, 09:16 PM
amen to that.* a closure to this topic.

imported_marasgal
08-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Actually Jatznic, some games have another stage after Beta, and it can be called either Gold or Final Version. Now in some rare occassions they will do a wipe again when moving into this Gold or Final version, but not always.





The only other time I can think of a game doing a wipe after this stages is IF there is a Major bug in the game that has caused mass problems, and sometimes a full wipe is required to fix the problem, but in my 17 years of playing and testing MMORPGs I have only seen this happen a couple of times.

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 10:04 PM
u jus stated and i quote "The server the beta testing is run on is dubbed the beta server" u jus said beta is a sever in your own words

jatznic
08-25-2007, 10:59 PM
Yes..but you were referring to "beta" as if it were something tangible. When I speak of the beta server, I speak of it strictly as a nomenclature and nothing else.

imported_marasgal
08-25-2007, 11:30 PM
Let me see if I can clear this up a little.





Beta is a Testing phase, but some games do call their servers a Beta Server. Just to show that the server is in a Beta Testing Phase.





its like when scientists are doing testing, they dont call each subject by name but rather call them Test Subject A or Test Subject B. That doesnt mean their real name is Test Subject A or Test Subject B. Its just a way for Labeling, These Individuals are part of a Test and are labeled so.





So just as a scientist would label a subject, so do the game creators. A server might start off as Alpha Server, then as things progress into Beta Testing, they rename the same server as Beta Server. Just for showing that the server is under Beta testing.





not really sure if that truely cleared things up, but I hope it does.

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 11:33 PM
omg it is a sever so it a sever i no what i am talkin bout

GBigdaddy13
08-25-2007, 11:34 PM
so that means the name of the <u>SEVER* </u>is<u>*BETA </u>

imported_marasgal
08-25-2007, 11:50 PM
Well yes and no, your only partially correct. A server can be LABELED beta, but the reasoning behind it is because the server is in BETA TESTING.





The testing can go in 2 or 3 Phases.


Alpha Testing - During this phase of the testing, its to test the server for stability, and to make sure the coding is working well enough to move onto Beta Testing.





Beta Testing - During this phase of the testing, the Designers are testing the game, the codes, and killing any bugs they can find, also they begin Stress testing the server





Gold/Final Phase - 95% of the bugs are gone or at least blocked. The servers Stability is good and the only thing they do is add content as needed to keep the players happy and keep them entertained.





There is actually more to each stage of testing but these are basically the main points of each stage.





So like I said you are only Partly correct, the server can be called Beta, but it is only called that to represent the stage of Testing that the server is in, just as it can be labeled Alpha.

Valentis
08-26-2007, 12:19 AM
Plain English:


The server that was being played on was named Teva. That's what it was called on the server select screen. Period. End of discussion. When people say "beta server," what they mean is "the server being used for beta testing."


Point is, GBig, that you really have no right to complain about items you got from the Outspark store. Not only is this just a testing phase, but the only reason you were able to buy stuff at all was because they gave you free Outspark cash. It's not like you actually paid for it yourself. There's nothing bs about it.

GBigdaddy13
08-26-2007, 04:28 AM
thank u