European IP Block Discussion

[DeathPyres]

i mean e stupid account as in the stupid account...erm..making sense..no..nvm..haha...he's e stupid one ya.

for cl reply, are u saying tt there is still hope that the existing europeans get to stay? are u all negoiating tt or are u all finalising tt they go? im extremely uncertain abt this one thing.

They're supposedly still in discussion according to Gamigo. Who knows. OutSpark posted an official notice that was not yet shown to Gamigo. OutSpark said that they'd start IP blocking Europe because Gamigo IP blocked North America.

Btw, 1001st post. xD

[CCL225]

gratz! we are on page 100^^ (sorry for e sarcasm)

[Farashimisanoob]

And everyone still isn't pleased =).

[Nanninator]

I'm hugely disappointed with this... :( One of my best friends is from the UK and it will be very unfortunate to not be able to play alongside him anymore, once this update is finalized.
I'm sure he will be upset to lose the hours and real money he spent on his characters...
I guess we will both be searching for a new game to play now. ><

[smitske]

Unfortunately we have to remember that Outspark is the *distributor* of fiesta. Most of the changes that were wanted have to be done by the *designers*. This changes the game from its original design and leads to, you guessed it, bugs and incompatibilities in the program. Yet despite this, some (I admit not enough yet) balance has been brought to the archers, the fear no longer stunning has brought the mages back to the other class ranges, blocking spammers, and new animations have been incorporated. It would have been easier for Outspark to have the game left alone.

Things that are not in the realm of the designers tend to show up quicker in the game. An example of this is the events that the GMs run including GM GuildWars, MonsterMaker, Forest of Shadows, etc.... The issues with in game events is that it is *NOT* possible to make everyone happy. If an event is designed to challenging to higher lvl players then that automatically eliminates most of the community from participating. If an event is designed for the lower lvls to be able to participate in then odds are that the higher lvls feel bored and slighted.

Instead of complaining that nothing gets done why not offer constructive ideas/criticisms? For example suggest that maybe Mondays, Wednsdays, or Fridays have Battle/Monster events and that Tuesdays or Thursday do things like Decipher the Cipher/ Find the GM.

Now having gone into all of this, this belongs to a different thread is completely off topic :D

i did, but nobody really noticed died after 5 pages.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

;-;....i dnt want the UK to go too D: good ppl live there ~!Sighs!~

[Farashimisanoob]

I want you to leave Leon o__o.

[CCL225]

They're supposedly still in discussion according to Gamigo. Who knows. OutSpark posted an official notice that was not yet shown to Gamigo. OutSpark said that they'd start IP blocking Europe because Gamigo IP blocked North America.

Btw, 1001st post. xD

oo...so it means that if gamigo and outspark can negoiate, things will help? coz i always thought it's e onson soft fault that gamigo n outspark have to ban players >.<

then hope they do negoiate. if gamigo do request for unreasonable things, outspark would look at the big picture right? they will stand to gain in long term should the existing european stay.

or am i wrong about that?

[DeathPyres]

;-;....i dnt want the UK to go too D: good ppl live there ~!Sighs!~

;_; Lawls Sacred. xD THERE WAS A HEART IN YOUR FORUM NAME. LOL

[smitske]

They're supposedly still in discussion according to Gamigo. Who knows. OutSpark posted an official notice that was not yet shown to Gamigo. OutSpark said that they'd start IP blocking Europe because Gamigo IP blocked North America.

Btw, 1001st post. xD

Gamigo HAD to block USA ip's from outspark, and now outspark has to block them of gamigo

[Zacharykano]

are there any europian countrys that wont be banned?

[smitske]

oo...so it means that if gamigo and outspark can negoiate, things will help? coz i always thought it's e onson soft fault that gamigo n outspark have to ban players >.<

then hope they do negoiate. if gamigo do request for unreasonable things, outspark would look at the big picture right? they will stand to gain in long term should the existing european stay.

or am i wrong about that?

according to what ive read and what joker said, its actually outspark thats screwing the EU players.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

so who exactly will get banned << now and in the future ._. this going down towards the central and south and northern part of the u.s ._....

[DeathPyres]

oo...so it means that if gamigo and outspark can negoiate, things will help? coz i always thought it's e onson soft fault that gamigo n outspark have to ban players >.<

then hope they do negoiate. if gamigo do request for unreasonable things, outspark would look at the big picture right? they will stand to gain in long term should the existing european stay.

or am i wrong about that?

CCL225, this has been answered numerous times. Gamigo wants an account transfer. OutSpark refused. They're not giving each other ground. They refuse to budge on their stands. Gamigo wants all current players in Europe. OutSpark wants them too. You see how this doesn't work? It is OnsOnSoft that this mess even started in one regard. It's also our fault. It's also OutSpark's fault. There's a LOT of ways you can look at this.

Sacred, all of Europe, starting with Germany and English speaking countries, I believe. When the rights for the Pacific, South America, etc are sold/acquired, then the bans for those locations will begin. For now it's only Europe. ;_;

[Khrim]

step 1 outspark should if unable to find solutions for European players repay ALL SPARK CASH to players who will be cut off. perhas had the uppers are outspark had any forethough they would have sold off their customers base to retain some of the fiscal loss.

Two things...

1. I don't think OS has the right to "sell" the rights to Fiesta to anybody. I'm fairly sure that the original developers retain that ability themselves.

and

2. You were saying in another part of your post that I didn't quote that they need somebody who can use spell check...perhaps you should learn that skill yourself?

[CCL225]

according to what ive read and what joker said, its actually outspark thats screwing the EU players.

ok...sorry..rephrase..i mean should there be a way to revive the situation, outspark will do something about it right^^ what i said about gamigo was just an example.

n u seems to reply to this question as well^^

[smitske]

Whole of europe and turkey will be banned eventually, first ones will be germans cause thats the first language they made it in(already CB) then british smewheer soon and french and spanish to follow in fall thats all the info thus far, maybe though it could be we all get banned emmediately.

[DeathPyres]

Two things...

1. I don't think OS has the right to "sell" the rights to Fiesta to anybody. I'm fairly sure that the original developers retain that ability themselves.

and

2. You were saying in another part of your post that I didn't quote that they need somebody who can use spell check...perhaps you should learn that skill yourself?

OutSpark didn't sell the rights. OnsOnSoft, the original devs did indeed sell them.

[Khrim]

I thought this was a free country and that anyone could play this game. Now your banning people that love this game from other countries that is a disgrace to our way of life that we have come to know. Gm's u should be ashamed of yourselves to disgrace our country in this manner we have welcomed people from other countries for years, in fact this country was started by the Europeans. Isn't this discrimination and isn't one of your RULES that there will be no discrimination tolorated. You have banned people for this so you need to ban yourselves. I am ashamed of you to treat our fellow Europeans in this manner, what's next banning girls. I am very ashamed and embarassed by your actions.

I doubt that they have a choice in the matter so stop bashing them for being required to block the countries.

[smitske]

Two things...

1. I don't think OS has the right to "sell" the rights to Fiesta to anybody. I'm fairly sure that the original developers retain that ability themselves.

and

2. You were saying in another part of your post that I didn't quote that they need somebody who can use spell check...perhaps you should learn that skill yourself?
outspark doidnt have european rights, they didnt have the right to publish for us.

[Farashimisanoob]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/KoolKidsKlub93/europe.jpg
All your Europe are belong to Gamigo.

[theeasterbunny]

Taken from Gamigo forum:

"gamigo would like to offer a charakter transfer for European players on the US servers to a dedicated "Advanced Server" that should be identical in scope to the current US version (with re-worked translation and minor adaptions that we'll do for EU). However, we have no confirmation yet if a) a transfer is technically possible or b) if Outspark agrees to one."


Taken from page 2 of this thread:

It means that folks from Europe will not be able to connect. We are not touching any characters in game. If they happen to login from a non European IP I'm sure they can resume play.

With these two statements i believe a character transfer is not going to happen...
Please correct me if i am mistaken

~lovehunni

[Cloud-Strife1984]

Omg not user start a new acc, in german server,very ths Outpark great job omg

[DeathPyres]

I doubt that they have a choice in the matter so stop bashing them for being required to block the countries.

They don't, you're right. Contractual agreement and whatnot. OutSpark has to go along with OnsOnSoft's decisions or risk termination of their contract because of not fulfilling/sticking to it. But, OutSpark is not making the issue any better by not cooperating, nor is Gamigo.

I prefer this:

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5743/countrieseuropemapkg6.jpg

theeasterbunny, Joker stated at the very beginning... NO ACCOUNT TRANSFER.

[smitske]

ok...sorry..rephrase..i mean should there be a way to revive the situation, outspark will do something about it right^^ what i said about gamigo was just an example.

n u seems to reply to this question as well^^
Well according to what gamigo said, outspark was subborn in the negotiations.
And Joker confirmed outspark doesnt want to transfercharacters, so outspark is truly the one that comes out of this very bad and is the real one screwing over the EU players.

[binazy92]

Oki , THIS IS WRONG !!
Like WW2 was .. its like this but .. not exaclly !
ITS WRONG !! you just cant bann contreys like that !
You lose alot of things .. and players . Alot of this players worked hard , put real money to get chlotes from Fiesta store ..
Have worked more then just lvl and other stuffs !
Like trying to get Fiesta as more good place to play on then played.

To bann contreys like this is uppseting . Its like we other contreys are not whort it .
I cant se eny resons for geting a CONTREY banned !!
If its for more money ! You do it wrong !
If its for stats !! OOH THATS WRONG .. The company and game will get a bad name in the end !

I cant se eny reasons why ? ... If you can .. tell me about it !
Cuz this is so badly wrong that i hate it so much !
A company haves power ... But what is power whit out thous how lisens to it and does like they want ? Fiesta will be nothing whit out players ...
In couple years its all moust empty !

I'm really upset and just want to smach something !
This is really uppseting

a company/game haves power ..
But they dont have that power if its gets a bad name , no money , no people how spends time for this ..

You can put how meny people to work on a project but if no one juses it .. its waist of time !
So !! to bann contreys THIS IS NOT A GOOD WAY !!
i hope someone just understand what i sad couze i'm to uppset to think what i just tuped !

A ~3-4 months old fiesta player~ Europe <3

[7th.HeVeN]

Hi guys 8th heven here :) im sure u seen me around .. capped mage blah blah

just thought id add my comment :)

i think you guys should be a little bit more diplomatic about this.

Dont get me wrong i think its discusting IF they A. Dont migrate our charecters or B. dont refund back all our SC because i for one have spent ALLOT i mean allot lol.

If how ever they are willing and Can actually help us out then great but all the *****iness needs to stop because at the end of they day they dont Have to do any thing to help us. i havnt checked the T'snC's but im pretty sure it wouldnt actually be ilegal to allow some one to buy a product, all be it a virtual product but then dis-Allow use of that product.

The Things us British (e.u) players want.

Date of IP ban
Date of migration ( if its happening )
Date of Refund + will it be 50% -100% of what ive spent of my hard earned money and yes i work people im not a little kid.

If they are able to allow our IP's to players who already had an account are we going to stay on Apoline (or other) or are we still going to be taken away from our friends?

Fiesta isnt just a game its a bond between people from all over the world.

Ive mett some amazing people which i certainly dont want to part from.

All i can say is have some respect for your Customers .. as after all thats what we are we are Customers who pay your Wages so respect us and help us out.

I hope and wish the best for all us E.U people.

Quick shout to my friends if it all goes bad. (in NO order just as they pop into my head)

Shivva/G4ce
Anora
Trubeleiver
Romance
Waltimoore
Amenatsu
LuckyCharm
Yukijun
Cato
ChrisExpress
Azza
Dynamite

There is for a fact going to be lots of people i have forgotten. forgive me.

Thanks for reading guys

Christian / 8thHeVeN

[Farashimisanoob]

Hm, all you capped Euro's have fun ^_~ (Leon)

[Angelxx]

oo...so it means that if gamigo and outspark can negoiate, things will help? coz i always thought it's e onson soft fault that gamigo n outspark have to ban players >.<

then hope they do negoiate. if gamigo do request for unreasonable things, outspark would look at the big picture right? they will stand to gain in long term should the existing european stay.

or am i wrong about that?

Outspark stands to lose the most if EU players are banned. They would probably lose about half their database and possibly half the income too.

The problem probably lies in the fact that Gamigo has not agreed to letting EU players remain and Outspark will not willingly hand over half their database to Gamigo for account transfer. The only way to resolve this is for them to reach a compromise. An easy way would be for OnsonSoft to make it a term in their distribution agreement with Gamigo which they obviously did not.

So yes, Outspark stands to gain by letting EU players remain but their hands are pretty much tied as they cannot demand it legally.

[smitske]

cause they have to.

[electric4]

I can't help but to quote my own post.

The only mistake both gamigo and outspark made was to announce the ban before the situation was sorted out.

For example the account transfer, if any.

It is on them to offer a solution that allows current eu players on the us server to move to the eu server with all their belongings if they choose to do so.

None side could honestly believe that the community would accept to be torn apart with nothing in exchange but a message that is telling you to start over at another server, just like that.

Work it out outspark and gamigo, will benefit both of you.

Way too much spam going on here, lets wait for any offical statement regarding this.

Here is what i think is going to happen:

1). The IP Ban is final, end of story.

2). Char transfer will be available to those who wish to take that opportunity.
I think so because CSR_Joker is apparently taking this topic to his higher ups for further evaluation.
Furthermore gamigo is apparently willing to do this transfer from their side.

3). Everyone affected will have to give in, in some way, either by accepting that long known friends might be lost, that his/her cash shop items won't be transfered or compensated, or that the option to stay on the US server isn't possible.

Hope this turns out well.

Best wishes

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

what if there is no transfer oO wnt most ppl just quit Oo i would then have to lvl 79 lvls for a third time ._.!

[Farashimisanoob]

what if there is no transfer oO wnt most ppl just quick Oo i would then have to lvl 79 lvls for a third time ._.!

Aw, poor Leon =]

[Azalea_Raeka_Daear]

u.u


Love you too 8th

<33

[nolifer]

First of all, it wasn't Outspark that sold us, it was OnSoft or whatever they're called

[CSR_Joker]

Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

[UzumakiW]

First of all, it wasn't Outspark that sold us, it was OnSoft or whatever they're called

Kind of hard to believe people are still mixing this up, huh?

[DeathPyres]

EDIT. ZOMG

YAY!!! COMPROMISE. I think I might actually cry. THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTH ANKYOU. *endspam*

Thanks for the AWESOME news Joker!!

[smitske]

there wasnt even an IP block yet as far as i know

[greggles29]

Will us from the UK England get cut off from the game,i hope now,im not sure even why this is happening:P

[doddzy82]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot

[Farashimisanoob]

Oh, looks cool I guess..

[Shadowic2]

Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

Okay, so there won't be any IP blocks with EU Fiesta comes out? Or just right now at the moment there won't be any until Gamingo and Outspark finish their plan to transition?

[Farashimisanoob]

I wanna go on the German server!! =o

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

T.T That confuzed lil weon D:<

[OzzyD]

Are us 82s getting blocked then or not?

(p.s look how much my Fiesta play time has dropped to!)

[Angelxx]

ok...sorry..rephrase..i mean should there be a way to revive the situation, outspark will do something about it right^^ what i said about gamigo was just an example.

n u seems to reply to this question as well^^

Think again. He only posts with one agenda....to diss Outspark every chance he gets. Read the facts and decide for yourself who is to 'blame'.


Well according to what gamigo said, outspark was subborn in the negotiations.
And Joker confirmed outspark doesnt want to transfercharacters, so outspark is truly the one that comes out of this very bad and is the real one screwing over the EU players.

'According to what gamigo said'? Yes, I'm sure gamigo would have come out and say that they themselves were being stubborn instead. :rolleyes:

How about this scenario: Outspark requests the retention of existing EU accounts but Gamigo is being stubborn in negotiations.

Remember that there are always two sides to a story.

[smitske]

Okay, so there won't be any IP blocks with EU Fiesta comes out? Or just right now at the moment there won't be any until Gamingo and Outspark finish their plan to transition?
prolly only till the european isopen

[CSR_Joker]

Okay, so there won't be any IP blocks with EU Fiesta comes out? Or just right now at the moment there won't be any until Gamingo and Outspark finish their plan to transition?

IP Block will eventually happen. We removed it right now until we work out the transition.

[DeathPyres]

there wasnt even an IP block yet as far as i know

a) IP block will happen

Outspark will block all European IPs inclusing Switzerland and Turkey. This is both for new and existing players. Also gamigo already blocks IPs from the US, Canada and Mexico.

b) Timeline about the IP block

We are blocking US, Canadian and Mexican IPs already. Outspark has not informed us when they will start to block European IPs, however we expect that German and English countries will be first followed by French and Spanish a bit later in the year (since we have not launched these languages yet).

Alpha posted that on the Gamigo forums. THIS IS NOW VOID. I'M USING THIS TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION.


Okay, so there won't be any IP blocks with EU Fiesta comes out? Or just right now at the moment there won't be any until Gamingo and Outspark finish their plan to transition?

I'll go with the second option.

[electric4]

Way too much spam going on here, lets wait for any offical statement regarding this.

Here is what i think is going to happen:

1). The IP Ban is final, end of story.

2). Char transfer will be available to those who wish to take that opportunity.
I think so because CSR_Joker is apparently taking this topic to his higher ups for further evaluation.
Furthermore gamigo is apparently willing to do this transfer from their side.

3). Everyone affected will have to give in, in some way, either by accepting that long known friends might be lost, that his/her cash shop items won't be transfered or compensated, or that the option to stay on the US server isn't possible.

Hope this turns out well.

Best wishes


Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

I am glad that exactly that happend what i was thinking about.

I have seen this happening to other games, and the only way is with the community, not without them.
When that transfer is sorted out i am sure that IP Ban will come but only after there is a solution

Actually i am amazed that i was right ^^;; wasn't i CSR_Joker :P?

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Okay, so there won't be any IP blocks with EU Fiesta comes out? Or just right now at the moment there won't be any until Gamingo and Outspark finish their plan to transition?

I think, since it says "We removed the IP block" in bold letters, that they removed it. xD

[smitske]

Think again. He only posts with one agenda....to diss Outspark every chance he gets. Read the facts and decide for yourself who is to 'blame'.



'According to what gamigo said'? Yes, I'm sure gamigo would have come out and say that they themselves were being stubborn instead. :rolleyes:

How about this scenario: Outspark requests the retention of existing EU accounts but Gamigo is being stubborn in negotiations.

Remember that there are always two sides to a story.

ye and your only account is to be an old hagg stalking me, and why should they let outspark keep the Eu players? Outspark didnt have right on us in the first place and they requested a bann from the moment they knew gamigo had the Eu rights(bann for USA players on Eu server) also look at wath joker said, I know you got a bad eyesight and can only see my bad things.

[Khrim]

Posting this because I am sick of people blaming Outspark for their every little problem with this IP ban.

Outspark does not have rights to sell the game contract to Gamigo, I'm pretty sure that OS not too happy with it either because they will be losing a LOT of players because of this and thus -- a lot of money. That's probably why they're being a little "stubborn" with the negotiations because they'll be losing a good portion of the community (not to mention the income) because of this.

They didn't say if there would be a transfer or not yet, they simply said that they would NOT touch the characters so that if they logged in from a different location that the person could still play. A character transfer does not require the complete moving of the data, it just requires a COPY of the data.

[Shadowic2]

IP Block will eventually happen. We removed it right now until we work out the transition.

Alrighty ^^.
So you guys are working on transferring the existing EU players on our servers, and their items, to the EU Fiesta?
Or are you trying to keep what players we do have and blocking the new ones?
Also, I still haven't seen any official word from this question. Will the UK be included in the block? Or will it just be Spain, Germany and France that were listed?
I know some people who live in the UK who really don't consider themselves a part of Europe itself.

[immylesbeer]

Okay only thing I want to know
The one and only thing

Will I be able to get my level 75 fighter, my +9 gears/blues/gold
On this new version?

If not then all of this was a serious waste of months, regardless of friends made.

[CCL225]

Think again. He only posts with one agenda....to diss Outspark every chance he gets. Read the facts and decide for yourself who is to 'blame'.



'According to what gamigo said'? Yes, I'm sure gamigo would have come out and say that they themselves were being stubborn instead. :rolleyes:

How about this scenario: Outspark requests the retention of existing EU accounts but Gamigo is being stubborn in negotiations.

Remember that there are always two sides to a story.

well..i blame no1...juz wanna get e facts rite^^ i guess it's right to believe that outspark will do something ^^

thou one msg wrote that they are not >.<

thanks for standing by my side to make me believe in outspark ^^ at one point i did wonder if you were right, but ur perservance made me trust u that outspark will always be there for the player(well...it's for their future earning actually, but who cares?). we wun be separated! that's all i care about!

[DeathPyres]

ye and your only account is to be an old hagg stalking me, and why should they let outspark keep the Eu players? Outspark didnt have right on us in the first place and they requested a bann from the moment they knew gamigo had the Eu rights(bann for USA players on Eu server) also look at wath joker said, I know you got a bad eyesight and can only see my bad things.

No need to insult her. I agree with her view. They wanted to block IPs as soon as Gamigo started blocking the North American IPs. Get your facts straight.

Shadowic2, from what I'm getting, I think that they in the middle of figuring out what to do. Obviously Gamigo wants the first approach, and OutSpark the second.

immylesbeer, read what Shadowic2 posted. That's what they're trying to figure out.

[smitske]

Okay only thing I want to know
The one and only thing

Will I be able to get my level 75 fighter, my +9 gears/blues/gold
On this new version?

If not then all of this was a serious waste of months, regardless of friends made.

Joker already said no in the beginning of the topic.
But now he's apperently changing it.

[Angelxx]

ye and your only account is to be an old hagg stalking me, and why should they let outspark keep the Eu players? Outspark didnt have right on us in the first place and they requested a bann from the moment they knew gamigo had the Eu rights(bann for USA players on Eu server) also look at wath joker said, I know you got a bad eyesight and can only see my bad things.

ooo first I was a paedophile stalking you and now I'm an old hag? Btw hag has no double 'g'. At least spell it right if you want the impact eh? ^^

It would appear you have a serious problem with adult gamers too, on top of all your other serious problems. I strongly suggest you seek therapy. All that anger, hate and suspicions cannot be healthy for you. :)

[immylesbeer]

Joker already said no in the beginning of the topic.
But now he's apperently changing it.

O.o
They really havent made this clear to understand
this thread is helping noone..

[smitske]

No need to insult her. I agree with her view. They wanted to block IPs as soon as Gamigo started blocking the North American IPs. Get your facts straight.

My facts are straight, outspark wanted gamigo to block american players, and now gamigo wants the same from outspark

[Hofulu]

I first choose my country ( in the account making when i first joined) as Zimbabwe because i didnt know how secure the sight was. I LIVE AND PLAY IN THE USA. is the fact that i chose Zimbabwe gonna affect my account or something? will i be banned, blocked?? im trying to change it to USA (if that will do anything) but i cant select "United States" the closest i can get to "United States of America", or "United States", or "U.S" is "United States Minor Outlying Islands"... can i even choose regular U.S.A??????

[Farashimisanoob]

You all have problems.

[HeroJD]

Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
THANK U SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!! :D

[smitske]

ooo first I was a paedophile stalking you and now I'm an old hag? Btw hag has no double 'g'. At least spell it right if you want the impact eh? ^^

It would appear you have a serious problem with adult gamers too, on top of all your other serious problems. I strongly suggest you seek therapy. All that anger, hate and suspicions cannot be healthy for you. :)

you need it more, patological lyers always need it.

[UzumakiW]

As I've said before, way too many branches in this thread >.<.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

*cries* all u ppl are confuzing me T_____T and confuzing ur own selfs too T____T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sqider]

:mad: stupid ip block, all good players will be blocked O_o
not good :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[HeroJD]

IP Block will eventually happen. We removed it right now until we work out the transition.
what u said huh? :eek::mad::mad: °_o

[AmazonPhoenix]

Joker: Why is it not possible just to ban NEW REGISTRATIONS of EU players on Fiesta, which I know some other well known f2p MMOs have done with similar situations in the past?

PS - I'm keeping my fingers in check, since there is a lot I want to say... but this is the question which burns the most.

[Shadowic2]

Alrighty guys, this is an IP Block Discussion thread. <.< Please take your flaming, and arguing elsewhere. Preferably a PM. It's just cluttering this thread, and making it hard for others to get the information they want.


I first choose my country ( in the account making when i first joined) as Zimbabwe because i didnt know how secure the sight was. I LIVE AND PLAY IN THE USA. is the fact that i chose Zimbabwe gonna affect my account or something? will i be banned, blocked?? im trying to change it to USA (if that will do anything) but i cant select "United States" the closest i can get to "United States of America", or "United States", or "U.S" is "United States Minor Outlying Islands"... can i even choose regular U.S.A??????
That has nothing to do with whether or not you'll be blocked. All that matters is where you and your computer is trying to access the servers.

[DeathPyres]

My facts are straight, outspark wanted gamigo to block american players, and now gamigo wants the same from outspark

Those scums you want to keep Apoline clean of? Yeah, you'd better delete your account then.

READ:

a) IP block will happen

Outspark will block all European IPs inclusing Switzerland and Turkey. This is both for new and existing players. Also gamigo already blocks IPs from the US, Canada and Mexico.

b) Timeline about the IP block

We are blocking US, Canadian and Mexican IPs already. Outspark has not informed us when they will start to block European IPs, however we expect that German and English countries will be first followed by French and Spanish a bit later in the year (since we have not launched these languages yet).

GAMIGO IP BLOCKED FIRST! smitske, cut the crap. You honestly need to LAY OFF.

[Angelxx]

you need it to, patological lyers always need it.

Erm...like I said, try spelling your attempts at insults right. At the moment they lack impact...the only result is making me laugh at you. :)

I didn't have to lie. All I said was to check your record of posts to see for themselves how much you hated Outspark. Struck a nerve did I? Try to cover your own lies in future. That way I wouldn't have succeeded in calling you out on it. :D

[dRoGoZ]

It's what we're waiting to hear from him, Aerythia.

[smitske]

Those scums you want to keep Apoline clean of? Yeah, you'd better delete your account then.

READ:

a) IP block will happen

Outspark will block all European IPs inclusing Switzerland and Turkey. This is both for new and existing players. Also gamigo already blocks IPs from the US, Canada and Mexico.

b) Timeline about the IP block

We are blocking US, Canadian and Mexican IPs already. Outspark has not informed us when they will start to block European IPs, however we expect that German and English countries will be first followed by French and Spanish a bit later in the year (since we have not launched these languages yet).

GAMIGO IP BLOCKED FIRST! smitske, cut the crap. You honestly need to LAY OFF.
Did I ever claim otherwise?
Gamigo HAD TO DO SO of outspark just as outspark HAS TO DO SO of gamigo.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

IP Block will eventually happen. We removed it right now until we work out the transition.

-.-.....*BANS ONSOFT* ._.....whats the point here ._.......honestly T_T they're going to get rid of ~!Sighs!~ i'd rather spend time with them b4 they go then spend time arguing with something thats obviously going to happen ._.....

[Angelxx]

Joker: Why is it not possible just to ban NEW REGISTRATIONS of EU players on Fiesta, which I know some other well known f2p MMOs have done with similar situations in the past?

PS - I'm keeping my fingers in check, since there is a lot I want to say... but this is the question which burns the most.

That would only be possible if Gamigo was willing which I am assuming they are not since it is not the result of the negotiations so far. :(


Those scums you want to keep Apoline clean of? Yeah, you'd better delete your account then.

GAMIGO IP BLOCKED FIRST! smitske, cut the crap. You honestly need to LAY OFF.

Quoted for truth. :)

[smitske]

Erm...like I said, try spelling your attempts at insults right. At the moment they lack impact...the only result is making me laugh at you. :)

I didn't have to lie. All I said was to check your record of posts to see for themselves how much you hated Outspark. Struck a nerve did I? Try to cover your own lies in future. That way I wouldn't have succeeded in calling you out on it. :D
if your all so smart, learn dutch then, im really sick of you ignorant people with the pathetic your spelling is bad crap.

You lie more then me, you say i only talk crap, a lie.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

Joker: Why is it not possible just to ban NEW REGISTRATIONS of EU players on Fiesta, which I know some other well known f2p MMOs have done with similar situations in the past?

PS - I'm keeping my fingers in check, since there is a lot I want to say... but this is the question which burns the most.

o.o i like that idea Q.Q...

[immylesbeer]

Erm...like I said, try spelling your attempts at insults right. At the moment they lack impact...the only result is making me laugh at you. :)

I didn't have to lie. All I said was to check your record of posts to see for themselves how much you hated Outspark. Struck a nerve did I? Try to cover your own lies in future. That way I wouldn't have succeeded in calling you out on it. :D

Stop being pathetic, honestly, talk about the IP block or take somewhere else

[DeathPyres]

Did I ever claim otherwise?
Gamigo HAD TO DO SO of outspark just as outspark HAS TO DO SO of gamigo.

What you were saying was that OutSpark was the reason the IP blocks started. No, it wasn't. It was technically Gamigo. They acquired the rights, and blocked first.

[smitske]

That would only be possible if Gamigo was willing which I am assuming they are not since it is not the result of the negotiations so far. :(



Quoted for truth. :)

You really lack the sence to figger out its a bout IG, the scumms are hackers and scammers.

[UzumakiW]

This situation has definitely caused much tension between everybody -.-

[Serric]

Hi everyone,

I'm passing you the information as I get it and forgive me if I can't keep up with the thread pages to respond to individual messages.

As of right now: I was just told that NOBODY is being blocked. We removed the IP Block.

Next: We will be working with Gamingo on some kind of transition plan.

I am not sure when that will happen.

That's all I have for now.

Thanks.

I just want to take a moment to highlight this. Please take a second to read it carefully and understand what it means.

Outspark is on your side, folks - just like we've all been saying for how long now? Yes, they are bound by certain legality but I hope this is a clear and present example that they are continuing to negotiate to minimalize impact to the players.

So much for saying they don't care... if they didn't Joker wouldn't be going back and forth to share info and Outspark wouldn't be going to bat for y'all.

I sincerely hope you keep this in mind the next time something ruffles your feathers.

:mad:

I'm out for a few hours. Try not to break anything.

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

Erm...like I said, try spelling your attempts at insults right. At the moment they lack impact...the only result is making me laugh at you. :)

I didn't have to lie. All I said was to check your record of posts to see for themselves how much you hated Outspark. Struck a nerve did I? Try to cover your own lies in future. That way I wouldn't have succeeded in calling you out on it. :D

that seems hurtful ;[ not nice T.T take it to PM not here D:< *cries*

[WingSword]

IP Block will eventually happen. We removed it right now until we work out the transition.

Atleast try to let the existing accounts being unblocked not just for the moment ._.
To say it again - even if we would have the chance to get our accounts transferred to gamigo - I still would quit...
There are still other games which are free for every country and continent ._.
The friendships here would move to another game...
I'd prefer fiesta but theres no way that Im gonna keep going on any EU version of any game which doesnt allow the acces from the US, South America and Asia...

And thank you for the news

[DeathPyres]

if your all so smart, learn dutch then, im really sick of you ignorant people with the pathetic your spelling is bad crap.

You lie more then me, you say i only talk crap, a lie.

Enough accusations. We'll leave it at this. NO ONE IS INNOCENT. Kthx.

As to your Dutch comment... I'm studying Spanish and Mandarin. No suffering of spelling for any of the three languages.

[smitske]

What you were saying was that OutSpark was the reason the IP blocks started. No, it wasn't. It was technically Gamigo. They acquired the rights, and blocked first.

And why you think they blocked? cause they had to of outspark cause they were afraid to lose players.

[Angelxx]

if your all so smart, learn dutch then, im really sick of you ignorant people with the pathetic your spelling is bad crap.

You lie more then me, you say i only talk crap, a lie.

LOL quoted for truth and called on lie. ^^


Stop being pathetic, honestly, talk about the IP block or take somewhere else

Hmmm try reading back posts and see who attacked me. Then ask yourself honestly if you would not respond if you were attacked. Then come talk. ^^

[CCL225]

That would only be possible if Gamigo was willing which I am assuming they are not since it is not the result of the negotiations so far. :(



Quoted for truth. :)

well...aint we told that they are settling things one at a time?

[CSR_Joker]

Since this thread is turning into a personal flame. I am closing it.

Please remember that even though this topic is hot and you have emotions, the rules of the forum still apply.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS!

[Serric]

LOL quoted for truth and called on lie. ^^



Hmmm try reading back posts and see who attacked me. Then ask yourself honestly if you would not respond if you were attacked. Then come talk. ^^

OK folks, everyone - that's enough off-topic discussion please. Back on track.

EDIT: Oops! Seems the flamewars closed the thread.... let that be a lesson to all. A valuable source of info gone - not by fault of Outspark, mind you...

~sigh~