Mages should stick 2gether!!

[Kyujin]

Whos with me?? :cool:
mages r becomin powerless in so many ways and it makes it hard 4 us 2 lvl...
i think its sad that no1 rarely partys a mage and i know we have the lowist def but we make gd support and soloing can be hard and cost way 2 much in the long run...

my point is that if a mage needs help... we as mages should help wot ever she r hes lvl is so they can become stronger quicker.

Im a lvl 37 mage called Spawnix and lvlin is impossable now bcoz ive got like no quests 2 do n ive asked guild members 4 help time after time n no1 does anythin 2 try n make the guild stronger... :mad:

hope u message this back be gd 2 get other mages ideas on the matter... :)

also i believe clerics if they see sum1 dead on the floor should rev them no matter wot!!

[purussapientia]

Whos with me?? :cool:
mages r becomin powerless in so many ways and it makes it hard 4 us 2 lvl...
i think its sad that no1 rarely partys a mage and i know we have the lowist def but we make gd support and soloing can be hard and cost way 2 much in the long run...

my point is that if a mage needs help... we as mages should help wot ever she r hes lvl is so they can become stronger quicker.

Im a lvl 37 mage called Spawnix and lvlin is impossable now bcoz ive got like no quests 2 do n ive asked guild members 4 help time after time n no1 does anythin 2 try n make the guild stronger... :mad:

hope u message this back be gd 2 get other mages ideas on the matter... :)

Mages are constantly partied as DDers. Just because you haven't been able to get into a few parties doesn't mean the entire class is discriminated against. Currently the only entire class that has a hard time getting parties is the Archer, as many people would rather have Mages as DDs in their parties rather than Archer, especially in AoE parties.


also i believe clerics if they see sum1 dead on the floor should rev them no matter wot!!

Getting rezzed, healed or buffed from a cleric not in your party is a privilege, not a right. There is no commandment given upon creating a cleric that you must rez everyone you see dead. They gain nothing from wasting their time and SP rezzing you. So, instead of demanding clerics to detriment their grinding time to rez you, just be grateful IF they do rez you.

Edit: Also, your message is horribly typed and has so many grammar/punctuation errors that it is honestly hard to read at some points. If you're trying to make a point, make sure you do so in a legible way. -.-

[Kyujin]

If a archer came 2 be and asked 4 a party i would be ok with it... im just makin a point that mages do have it hard most of the time n the other classes like fighters would rather have thire own in instead of a mage...

and the thing with the cleric is an idea theres been times where ive been dead and about 3 cleric have passed me even after i said plz, but im sorry if sum1 needs help u help them u dont let them warp back 2 town only 2 come back there.

and cut me sum slack ok im dislesic and i cant evern spell that so be4 u give ppl a hard time with grammar/ punctuation put that in mind... i cant help that.

[zues8844]

Um, I'm usually the first person asked to be partied. Mages are ALWAYS partied because of our superior attack power. I've had higher level fighters kicked so I could join.

Also, we're not cutting you any slack because you're dyslexic. You not being able to write good doesn't mean anything when you make a pointless topic like this one. Mages are loved, and always will be, at least outside of PvP.

[Kyujin]

you see thats different for me... i'll get kicked for a fighter any day... and mages have had thire power lowerd from one of the forms ive read which makes it unfar when u see the difference from what we should be doing...

and i'm not one for PvP i dont see the point when u can be doing something else with your time... but this still goes back to high lvl mages will always be partied but then again it comes down to what the person would class as high...

[Hiichan]

Man, the hardest part on mage lvling comes to lvl 5X, I was thinking waht hardest lvl was 4X, but I was REALLY WRONG XDDD, the only reason why lvling is hard, is because everybody preffers archers instead of mages in lvl 50 abyss, since mages has 1 AOE attack (melee, low extension) n' Archers have 2 (melee n' ranged).
Our reward for dedication will come to lvl 60, n' again, to lvl 67, moreover, when reach all other spells (wich will be a lot expensive when U reach XDDD - I'm still feeling poor because I have only one gold in storage, shared by my cleric n' my mage XDDD)

[purussapientia]

you see thats different for me... i'll get kicked for a fighter any day... and mages have had thire power lowerd from one of the forms ive read which makes it unfar when u see the difference from what we should be doing...

Bottom line: Mages, as a class, are partied more often as DDs than any other class, period. Just because you, one person among thousands, has been kicked, doesn't change this fact. Instead of wallowing in your self-pitty, why don't you suck it up, go solo level, thus taking action instead of making complaints that will make no difference what so ever.

[Kyujin]

what do you think ive been doing for the past 3 days... but the amont of times i die isnt worth the quest i get and costs way 2 much in the long run for hp stones...

but 2day i did party with a cleric n asked her which would u perfur a figher r a mage n she said mage so there is some what are on mages side...

n thats goin to be fun when im findin it hard to lvl now =S
but thx 4 the heads up ill just try n stock up on potions n i should be ok (i hope)

[moonlite_3]

Make a fighter or a cleric.

Or do some kingdom quests. They are easy to get into and for the most part, if your weak or you die alot, just follow everyone else and do nothing.
For the king slime kq, when the slime dies you will gain a lil more than 1100 exp and a gift box which will release item(s) (a good extra). Same thing goes for mara cept it gives a lil more than 1900exp, just do nothing if you can't. You'll still get the success exp. If you can do something like dps or aoe and it will do sufficent enough damage to make a difference , then by all means do it. So basicly, kq, create new char that is either a fighter or a cleric because trust me , if you had a hard time with mages, then dont be an archer >.>

[Shounen]

Bottom line: Mages, as a class, are partied more often as DDs than any other class, period. Just because you, one person among thousands, has been kicked, doesn't change this fact. Instead of wallowing in your self-pitty, why don't you suck it up, go solo level, thus taking action instead of making complaints that will make no difference what so ever.

solo and mage don't mix:D.

[purussapientia]

solo and mage don't mix:D.

With my mage I solo leveled in the abyss quite a lot. Sure, it's expensive, but it's better than whining about your class in the forums.

[Kyujin]

solo and mage don't mix:D.

He's 100% right... maybe the exp is good when your soloing but takes to much time when you do the maths.

and i'm not one for any other class... i just work better with mages in games than fighters or any other class for that matter... i don't know what it is but i can't work at the other classes.

[zues8844]

Um, I solo just fine. Just get a buff and some scrolls, and don't go easy with the pots/stones. Mages can solo easier than any other class, especially if they only target 1 thing, at least up to lvl 60. After that, they have probably the easiest time of all the classes.

[Kyujin]

Ya but when i ask no one will buff me and i dont have alot of money and i need to get my next stuff for lvl 40+

[campire931]

imma a lower lvl mage and i seem to get into parties just fine

[hobo369]

Dude, get real please... I am a lv7x mage and as soon as i step into tr i get a bunch of parties asking if i want to join. Mages do NOT have any problems finding parties at all. Everyone should be able to get a party due to the large benefit for more people. And as someone said earlier, getting a buff, heal, revive, or anything else is not a right, its a privilege. They have the right to choose whether or not to buff you etc. If there would be a complaint thread about a certain class, the last thing it would be is mage...i mean archers i can see why but mage?!?doesnt make sense to me... we have the 2 most powerful skills in the game D: and since you are 3x you should not rely on parties so much...Either a duo or solo until lv40. When you get to 40 try to find a party in abyssal summit it shouldnt be hard at all. I soloed my way to lv50 then began to look for duos and larger parties. Now at lv7x it is almost necessary to have a party due to the fact mobs hit you for so high. I hope my footsteps will help you in your future.

[Kyujin]

Well thanks for the pointers, i must of had one of thoughs bad days which is why i did this thread.

im now lvl 42 and find it better to solo because alot of people don't want to know even tho if someone asks me to pary i'm like ya sure. i do have a good friend thats a cleric that i made in a kingdom quest and when we're both on we party which is cool.

anyways thanks again, later people.

[resigood]

level 40 abyss feels like killing slimes at lvl 49 xD
Mages kill SOOOOOO fast compared to other classes
like 3 skills with a +0 wep to kill 1 goblin
taking about 200 damage (200/1200 life)

Clerics prefer to party with mages since they can duo and kill fast (mage has the power, cleric has the extra life a mage needs)

Tankers do have AoE skills but they arent that good, they can only kill 1 at a time, slightly damaging the rest
Archers are "weak" till level 51, where they become loved for their AoE poison

Only think people like fighters for is their def and life (meat shield)
Mages and Clerics have it so easy finding a party

Some even say Clerics replaced tanks, since they can do a tankers join and support the party at the same time
Least mages have their own unique characteristics

[The-Great-Paladin]

Whos with me?? :cool:
mages r becomin powerless in so many ways and it makes it hard 4 us 2 lvl...
i think its sad that no1 rarely partys a mage and i know we have the lowist def but we make gd support and soloing can be hard and cost way 2 much in the long run...

seriously what are you on about, soloing cost too much? u kill quicker, u get more drops, drops pay for stones, no-one parties a mage? dont rely on others, also my lv 36/37 mage friend lvls 3x faster than me.


my point is that if a mage needs help... we as mages should help wot ever she r hes lvl is so they can become stronger quicker.

Maybe try soloing....... not begging for lvls



Im a lvl 37 mage called Spawnix and lvlin is impossable now bcoz ive got like no quests 2 do n ive asked guild members 4 help time after time n no1 does anythin 2 try n make the guild stronger... :mad:

yea i just did lv37 its took a lot of grinding but i done it, solo!
dont rely on others help, you are the only one in charge of ur chars growth, also you're most likely not the only person in ur guild, other people are busy so cant drop everything to help one person, if u are the only person in the guild then i apoligise but its common sense that if no-one is there they cant reply =P


also i believe clerics if they see sum1 dead on the floor should rev them no matter wot!!
LOL? did i just read that for real?? O.o so i should drop everything and run to you, bcos you died? when im around people purposely dont stone and spam heal and rev, if u dont attempt to save yourself, why should i bother saving you? i always rev someone that died while trying, unless off course im under attack myself or have not got time to spare, such as going to a safer place to log off, a clerics job isn't your personal rev-bot. we have things to do also u know.

[thedark17]

Hey this is my first post EVER so if i do anything wrong please tell me.
I just want to say i have a 2X mage and i find absolutley no problem getting into a party. I find that archers have the hardest time, As mages we deal lots of damage and as long as we have a tanker we are an amazing killing machine.

Well in your case i would get a + wep that helped me out xD

[Pierre_e]

I see a lot of people talking non-sense here :

1) Archer vs Mage
Before lvl60 archer are doing way better than mages, it's a fact ! They can kite the mobs by poisoning them and in the end the do deal more damages.
They also have more HP and more def so they can tank or solo very nicely.
After lvl60 mages get their main AOE which make them so beloved and considered the best DD in the game, at last I might add !

2) Solo as a mage
Possible in the lower lvls, it shouldn't be such a big deal before lvl30-40 but since then imo you better be able to buy yourself a +9 weapon to kill the mobs fast enough. You will still die a lot doing this as if you happen to get mobbed you're simply cooked ! The counterpart of this is you kill mobs quite fast so you can get more xp per hour, this in some way compensate your tendancy to die over and over (and over and over...)
At lvl50+ you can forget it unless you have a full +9 set to make up for your ****ty def and still it's not so efficient, you will just lvl too slowly and waste your ressources in stones.
At lvl60+ the strong aoe doesn't allow you to solo so much better, taking more than 4 orange mobs will give you a hard time for sure when you can see fighters taking on 10+ without any trouble.
Bottom line is mage aren't designed to solo at all, they need a cleric.

3) Finding a party
Anyone can find a party, whether it's easier or not for this or that class, who cares if you keep looking for one you will find it. Again after lvl60 and even more after lvl67 people will beg you for party !
But please why do a lvl70+ mage has to tell this poor guy that mages is the class with the easiest time finding a party, that's so biased as he is lvl 37 and please let's face it mage is the suckiest class at this lvl, why take a mage in as he'll die all the time when you can have an archer doing better damages and dying a lot less.
Truth is, if you don't have a +9 weapon by lvl50 people won't take you in likely because your damages will be sucky in addition to you being a weakling.
I wanna add that the single AOE mages have for a long time is also heavily bugged, i am sure everyone noticed that when you have a lots of drops lying around (like there is in abyss but it can also happen in regular places) the magic burst DOESN'T HIT ANY MOB at all, sorry but this makes mages awkwardly useless in an abyss party !

4) PVP as a mage
Errrrhh, if you like pain, if you don't mind being owned big time, then go for it lol ! Mages in PVP now there's something that needs some adjustments, maybe through a new immobilizing skills like the root thing but oh well if you want to PVP make a fighter lol

5) The solution
Seriously no clue, I guess mage is just a class where you have to work your way through, probably the hardest to play but in the end the reward is there (unless you look into PVP) so you just have to keep going death after death lol. However a mage should not forget how hard his early days were, to me it sounds like a lot are forgetting this (I find it very amusing to see a cleric explain how easy soloing a mage is, maybe he's just having some kind of memory issue ?)

[Andrewnester]

Go to the abbys, find a party and aoe. Great xp!

[threewishes112]

my point is that if a mage needs help... we as mages should help wot ever she r hes lvl is so they can become stronger quicker

I'm quite sure that we've all asked for help once, twice or more than we should on Fiesta every once and a while. But let's face it: how many times do you accept random party invites, neverless offer to help every mage that comes up to you. The point is: there are many players/mages who need help out in Fiesta, but after when they've helped you, can you do the same for the next 10 mages who are having trouble leveling or would you rather be doing your own quest?


also i believe clerics if they see sum1 dead on the floor should rev them no matter wot!!

Depends on what kind of cleric you run along. Some times clerics are far too busy keeping their party memebers alive neverless themselves, they simply don't have the time to rev other players.

-threewishes112

[dragid10]

i agree wit the guy that started this post i die alot.and when i try to get into a party they disclude me so i can't go wit people to do stuff i'm only lvl 10 and i had to get to lvl 6 just to kill a mushroom how suckish is that.maybe if we had a little more def as starters then this wouldn't happen alot and firrst i don't think celrics should have the abilty to heal themselfs mages should have it

[Spankle]

Mages need end greens to solo effectively basically. I go for them and at level 48 have no problems soloing my quest monsters at all. Throw in a t3 scroll and you will probably level solo as much if not faster than any class given your greater damage. Granted I have over 100end in my armour that took work to find but definitely choose end over int and you will notice the difference, hybrid end/int are the best items. Use end rings not int for example. The other option is to enhance your armour, which I am too afraid to do xD

edit: also the best way to find a pty is to have friends. My friends list is like 60% clerics lol. Partying then isn't just about leveling but having a chat and people like to do that and you can do it on a regular basis. Ptying with a mage is actually advantageous if you both know what you're doing (ie aoeing). Also invite clerics you see soling to the party instead of waiting to be invited (not sure if ur doing that tho)

Also asking higher levels in the guild is not the way to go. Our guild was having this problem where the high levels were being constantly harassed by the lowers, so we kicked them all xD

[nekurayorusachi]

hell no my freind xD i have a mage on teva named nekura, shes a lvl 68 mage and when i go to doa people are begging me to join their party left and right since i got inferno and nova XD. who i really feel bad for is the archers ;__;

[nekurayorusachi]

i agree wit the guy that started this post i die alot.and when i try to get into a party they disclude me so i can't go wit people to do stuff i'm only lvl 10 and i had to get to lvl 6 just to kill a mushroom how suckish is that.maybe if we had a little more def as starters then this wouldn't happen alot and firrst i don't think celrics should have the abilty to heal themselfs mages should have it


as much as i wish it was possible to just heal ourselves its not a good idea to give mages healing powers. Clerics would basically never be used like EVER , and we already have super high attacks we dont need to take anything else. Once you get a higher an higher lvl you will see how good your mage can be. Now i know soloing can be a trouble at times but if you use end equips and maybe take a cleric along for duo then you will be the fine.:D

[Eternal_Doom]

Well at lvl 3x and around it is hard to lvl because would want and extra cleric or a tank much more than another DD but wait till you get to 6x ^^ you'll be wishing to be lvl 3x again with all the attention xD (Like Britney O_O )

[dragid10]

as much as i wish it was possible to just heal ourselves its not a good idea to give mages healing powers. Clerics would basically never be used like EVER , and we already have super high attacks we dont need to take anything else. Once you get a higher an higher lvl you will see how good your mage can be. Now i know soloing can be a trouble at times but if you use end equips and maybe take a cleric along for duo then you will be the fine.:D

whats soloing???:confused::confused::eek:

[PolarCoconuts]

I'm sad to say I don't have much luck with my Mage easier. A lot of people, particurally (lvl 50+)Fighters and (lvl 50+)Clerics (because they dont need to be partied all the time >.<) reject what I'm about to say "AS sucks, it doesn't benefit much at all, anyone is lucky if they can find a good (aoe) party, and even then by the time everyone needs to restone your lucky if you got maybe 20% exp within 2 1/2 hours.Plus other players are abusing AS, a lot of fighters and clerics with +9 weapons come in to terrorize everybody. And then the biggest thing of all why do I keep complaining its so hard to find a party in AS?It's simple, around lvl 44+ Clerics can actually solo in Uruga, then Fighters join them and aoe there. Here comes the bad part, it's extremely difficult for Mages/Archers to get into uruga, theres 2 ways to get to uruga (semi safely) Through SEG, but you need a distraction at the entrance into it from CP, and then you have to find a way to dodge all the King Colls on the way to Uruga. Then theres the way into Dark Passage, it's easy to get to Uruga from DP1 itself but to get to DP1 you need yet again another distraction or tons of T3 buff scrolls. Those Karasian Templars and Fighters/Soldiers do insane dmg to any unprepared Mage under lvl 50. I'm lvl 47 and the Karasians kill me in 3 hits, the hardest part is yes you can use stones but if you have a Templar on you, even on a mover they can still kill you. Even with a def/vit scroll and an endure buff its very difficult for me to solo, what makes it worse is parties always want mages to have +9 weaps or their considered dead meat.It is very difficult to build up the money nessecary because clearly you need a party, It's a cycle people!The consequences of this is dramatic. All of the weaker archers/mages (like me) are scrambling in AS for parties that aren't even there.It just goes to show that clerics can be archer/mage(s) best friends... and worst enemies. Now I know that someone is going to attempt to contradict me but mind you, you might have it a lot easier than I do.Everyone is different, theres the popular cash buying crazies who have nothing better to do with their life who get all the attention and help, and then those people who just cant seem to get anything right.

I have without a doubt solutions, but it would be too disagreable for me to post it in front of so many clerics/fighters.

As far as partying goes my lvl 25 archer has a lot more luck than my mage, I cant afford to solo, yes you can't make money without spending money, but you can't spend money that you don't have

[SirWulfstan]

that's why i found myself a good friend of every class(except mage, cuz i'm a mage :P) and we get together with and do quests and stuff. Solo=no mages

[kyleinfinity]

who doesnt party a mage i mean there the ones who do the damage

everyone wants a mage for AOE too not archers

[dragid10]

I'm sad to say I don't have much luck with my Mage easier. A lot of people, particurally (lvl 50+)Fighters and (lvl 50+)Clerics (because they dont need to be partied all the time >.<) reject what I'm about to say "AS sucks, it doesn't benefit much at all, anyone is lucky if they can find a good (aoe) party, and even then by the time everyone needs to restone your lucky if you got maybe 20% exp within 2 1/2 hours.Plus other players are abusing AS, a lot of fighters and clerics with +9 weapons come in to terrorize everybody. And then the biggest thing of all why do I keep complaining its so hard to find a party in AS?It's simple, around lvl 44+ Clerics can actually solo in Uruga, then Fighters join them and aoe there. Here comes the bad part, it's extremely difficult for Mages/Archers to get into uruga, theres 2 ways to get to uruga (semi safely) Through SEG, but you need a distraction at the entrance into it from CP, and then you have to find a way to dodge all the King Colls on the way to Uruga. Then theres the way into Dark Passage, it's easy to get to Uruga from DP1 itself but to get to DP1 you need yet again another distraction or tons of T3 buff scrolls. Those Karasian Templars and Fighters/Soldiers do insane dmg to any unprepared Mage under lvl 50. I'm lvl 47 and the Karasians kill me in 3 hits, the hardest part is yes you can use stones but if you have a Templar on you, even on a mover they can still kill you. Even with a def/vit scroll and an endure buff its very difficult for me to solo, what makes it worse is parties always want mages to have +9 weaps or their considered dead meat.It is very difficult to build up the money nessecary because clearly you need a party, It's a cycle people!The consequences of this is dramatic. All of the weaker archers/mages (like me) are scrambling in AS for parties that aren't even there.It just goes to show that clerics can be archer/mage(s) best friends... and worst enemies. Now I know that someone is going to attempt to contradict me but mind you, you might have it a lot easier than I do.Everyone is different, theres the popular cash buying crazies who have nothing better to do with their life who get all the attention and help, and then those people who just cant seem to get anything right.

I have without a doubt solutions, but it would be too disagreable for me to post it in front of so many clerics/fighters.

As far as partying goes my lvl 25 archer has a lot more luck than my mage, I cant afford to solo, yes you can't make money without spending money, but you can't spend money that you don't have

yeah man i got bored after u said i'm sad

[EriAeris]

wow... if 5 Full INT mages become a party together... wow... I'll feel really bad for the enemies :(

[RyaikenDune]

@ Original Poster:em...if you're asking for a party with THAT language, then don't be surprised.

@ Polar
...........I've been +0ing since level 30. Parties come easy for me @_@

[mannev]

Whos with me?? :cool:
mages r becomin powerless in so many ways and it makes it hard 4 us 2 lvl...
i think its sad that no1 rarely partys a mage and i know we have the lowist def but we make gd support and soloing can be hard and cost way 2 much in the long run...

my point is that if a mage needs help... we as mages should help wot ever she r hes lvl is so they can become stronger quicker.

Im a lvl 37 mage called Spawnix and lvlin is impossable now bcoz ive got like no quests 2 do n ive asked guild members 4 help time after time n no1 does anythin 2 try n make the guild stronger... :mad:

hope u message this back be gd 2 get other mages ideas on the matter... :)

also i believe clerics if they see sum1 dead on the floor should rev them no matter wot!!
omg dud everyone party mages for AOE man at 60-69 everyone partys me so heheh

[Sor_burns]

is this thread a joke? honestly, mages get partied ALL that time! they have massave damage. just beciase YOU dont get pt'd doesnt mean that all mages share the same fate

[Kyujin]

Mage do have that high damage but yet again they have the lowist def in game, so we need to get end armor and weapons to make up for it.

ive been looking around at want i have to face at lvl 50+ and made a +9 lvl 50 wand for the job change at lvl 60 after watching the vid on youtube.
going on what one person said before about needing a +9 wep or soloing is impossable.

also every person has different experisan when they go through the game. some may get partys all the time, others may not. it all comes down to the other people that are on at the time.

it was only yesterday when i had a lvl 6 mage ask to join the guild and after i asked her some quetions she started to get really snapy towards me which was uncalled for when i was also giving her some tips on lvling and money making.

[chester17]

mage can solo easily i feel
cos they have high damage, killing mob very fast
initally i use to solo fighter, now i stop my fighter, solo my mage, cos of faster killing
and level faster
5 -8 hit, the mob is dead (talking abt lvl 5x above mob)
fighte need more than that
i jus go for T3 scroll
if u dun wan to waste money, u cna go for T3 vit, T1 def
it can help alot also
for me i go for both T3, cos i am a "go forward" type of mage
i even AOE on my own in abyss
of cos not as many mob as archer do, maybe abt 3-5 mob the most
mage is fun, and awesome

[Kyujin]

i use all the T1 scrolls i can which do help in the long run.
i would also suggest to people that can buy stuff from the fiesta store to get married. you'll get a pet which gives +2 to every stat and you also get the Power of Love skill that gives +5% to all stats. the pet is better than the normal 3 you can find and the +5% is a great boinus.

[loonez]

i mean he has a point to a certain degree.It all in the matter of the person whether they want to pt you or not.I mean there alot of different class that get denied as to being in a pt.I mean i solo all the time,when i was in passage of abyss i solo a room full of mobs..,i dont need no pt.As a mage you got to learn about how to use your mage.Im an full end mage with powerlvl magic stat.I also buy tie3 when aoe.I like to think of it like this if no
one pt you,forget them.Think from your third eye what your mage need
to lvl and be strong,then maybe you will solo and lvl faster.

[Kyujin]

The sad thing is people will always ask for help but when it comes to when you need the help its not there.
I have to say i have been learning to solo on my own and itll be alot easier once i get my +9 wand at lvl 50.
i can only make T1 scrolls right now and so far they are helpping even by a little bit.